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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2017, 04:44:13 PM »
If you were raped you’d come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think

Do you genuinely think that it's that simple? Man.

The more people say it, it will make it easier for the rest..
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2017, 04:59:40 PM »
If you were raped you’d come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think

Do you genuinely think that it's that simple? Man.

The more people say it, it will make it easier for the rest..

Except we live in a society where people in power abuse that power and use it to cover up this sort of shít or, failing that, hide behind lawyers. If you worked in the movie industry and the most powerful producer in Hollywood grabbed your arse or barged into your hotel room you might have a better understanding of how going public is never a clean or easy choice.

Times seem to finally be changing but your attitude and ignorance of the nuances involved here are very much part of the problem that needs to be overcome, if I'm being honest.
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Re: Sexual harassment/assault allegations
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2017, 12:40:59 AM »
I heard Sylvester Stallone's name mentioned the other night.

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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2017, 08:53:14 AM »
I heard Sylvester Stallone's name mentioned the other night.

In that case - GUILTY
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2017, 08:56:00 AM »
I heard Sylvester Stallone's name mentioned the other night.

In that case - GUILTY

was all over FB, so must be true
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2017, 09:47:23 AM »
If you were raped you’d come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think
That really is an incredibly stupid thing to come out with

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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2017, 12:50:12 PM »
If you were raped you’d come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think
That really is an incredibly stupid thing to come out with

Is that not what they are doing now? how many rape cases now compared to 20 years ago? people are going to the police and they are being followed up on and charged.. the stigma it seems based on whats happening now show that it is not the major concern..

Rape victims felt in the past that nothing would come of it and felt that there was no point going to police or they actually felt embarrassed and shamed by it all and said nothing... so my post is simple.. you would come out and say it to the police and have them charged.. no?
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2017, 01:04:36 PM »
If you were raped you’d come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think
That really is an incredibly stupid thing to come out with

Is that not what they are doing now? how many rape cases now compared to 20 years ago? people are going to the police and they are being followed up on and charged.. the stigma it seems based on whats happening now show that it is not the major concern..

Rape victims felt in the past that nothing would come of it and felt that there was no point going to police or they actually felt embarrassed and shamed by it all and said nothing... so my post is simple.. you would come out and say it to the police and have them charged.. no?

Incredibly simplistic view.

As has been seen to happen in many rape cases, interpretation of consent can vary and often a victim is tarnished with "well she's notorious for sleeping about so it couldn't have been rape".

The Ched Evans case is one high profile example of when a victim alleged she was raped and the Evans family went to town on her in a PR exercise and ruined her life, so how would that encourage other who have been raped to come forward?

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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2017, 01:27:02 PM »
If you were raped you’d come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think
That really is an incredibly stupid thing to come out with

Is that not what they are doing now? how many rape cases now compared to 20 years ago? people are going to the police and they are being followed up on and charged.. the stigma it seems based on whats happening now show that it is not the major concern..

Rape victims felt in the past that nothing would come of it and felt that there was no point going to police or they actually felt embarrassed and shamed by it all and said nothing... so my post is simple.. you would come out and say it to the police and have them charged.. no?

Incredibly simplistic view.

As has been seen to happen in many rape cases, interpretation of consent can vary and often a victim is tarnished with "well she's notorious for sleeping about so it couldn't have been rape".

The Ched Evans case is one high profile example of when a victim alleged she was raped and the Evans family went to town on her in a PR exercise and ruined her life, so how would that encourage other who have been raped to come forward?

Was she a victim though? 
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Re: Sexual harassment/assault allegations
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2017, 01:33:26 PM »
If you were raped you’d come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think
That really is an incredibly stupid thing to come out with

Is that not what they are doing now? how many rape cases now compared to 20 years ago? people are going to the police and they are being followed up on and charged.. the stigma it seems based on whats happening now show that it is not the major concern..

Rape victims felt in the past that nothing would come of it and felt that there was no point going to police or they actually felt embarrassed and shamed by it all and said nothing... so my post is simple.. you would come out and say it to the police and have them charged.. no?

Incredibly simplistic view.

As has been seen to happen in many rape cases, interpretation of consent can vary and often a victim is tarnished with "well she's notorious for sleeping about so it couldn't have been rape".

The Ched Evans case is one high profile example of when a victim alleged she was raped and the Evans family went to town on her in a PR exercise and ruined her life, so how would that encourage other who have been raped to come forward?

Was she a victim though?

Victim probably the wrong word in this case in regards to the rape. In the eyes of the law she was not a victim of rape.

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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2017, 01:53:20 PM »
If you were raped you’d come out and say it and have that person charged? Would you worry about how other people would think
That really is an incredibly stupid thing to come out with

Is that not what they are doing now? how many rape cases now compared to 20 years ago? people are going to the police and they are being followed up on and charged.. the stigma it seems based on whats happening now show that it is not the major concern..

Rape victims felt in the past that nothing would come of it and felt that there was no point going to police or they actually felt embarrassed and shamed by it all and said nothing... so my post is simple.. you would come out and say it to the police and have them charged.. no?

Incredibly simplistic view.

As has been seen to happen in many rape cases, interpretation of consent can vary and often a victim is tarnished with "well she's notorious for sleeping about so it couldn't have been rape".

The Ched Evans case is one high profile example of when a victim alleged she was raped and the Evans family went to town on her in a PR exercise and ruined her life, so how would that encourage other who have been raped to come forward?

I'm sure its a case by case thing.... Ive already mentioned more people are being heard than before, the more that come out the more people will get charged.. the Chad Evans case is not the norm and you know that, they are the exception, I'd say there are more people raped by non celeberties than celebs, in which case they have less money to have a PR campaign.

So its down to the person thats been raped to do something about it, must be a horrible experience to go through, not to mention the medical examination and questioning by police afterwards and then the court case where your every word is used against you.. but thats the law, its there to protect everyone ... simplistic view? yes but i know a lady that was raped and there was nothing simplistic in her experience and continued trauma afterwards... the more rape victims say nothing the more peolle will think its ok to do it as they will get off with it
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Re: Sexual harassment/assault allegations
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2017, 05:57:27 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2017, 06:11:10 PM »
Matt Lauer from the NBC Today show
Garrison Keillor from NPR's Prairie Home Companion show

They're coming thick and fast now.

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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2017, 09:06:40 PM »
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