Cantab encouraging "child abuse"...

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his holiness nb

Quote from: SammyG on May 02, 2007, 10:08:53 AM
Quote from: his holiness nb on May 02, 2007, 10:01:54 AMNo "politicals of their parents" are taught in these schools. They learn the same things from the same curriculum as an everyday school just as gaeilge.
Excellent that's all sorted then. So the school selling the signed Bobby Sand's book has no politics attached to it.  ::)
Quote from: his holiness nb on May 02, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
You cant seriously equate the two, no matter how eloquently you put your argument.



Sorry, what can I not equate?

Sammy for an intelligent guy theres a lot you dont uiderstand, or is it just to waste our time explaining?
You cant equate the teachings at an Irish school to teaching the "politics of the parents"

Re the school selling the Bobby Sands book, can I presume they werent teaching the contents of the book to the students?

We are talking about what they teach here remember.

Sammy you put some arguments well, but you really are coming off as a total bigot here.
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SammyG

Quote from: his holiness nb on May 03, 2007, 10:13:22 AMSammy for an intelligent guy theres a lot you dont uiderstand, or is it just to waste our time explaining?
You cant equate the teachings at an Irish school to teaching the "politics of the parents"

Sorry I mis-read your original post, I now get what you're saying. If people are using their childrens education as a means to 'bash the Brits' (or further any other political philosophy) then I think that's wrong. You obviously don't agree, so fair enough.
Quote from: his holiness nb on May 03, 2007, 10:13:22 AM
Re the school selling the Bobby Sands book, can I presume they werent teaching the contents of the book to the students?
To be honest I wouldn't want somebody who thinks Bobby Sands is a role model, to be teaching my kids.
Quote from: his holiness nb on May 03, 2007, 10:13:22 AM
We are talking about what they teach here remember.
See previous answer.
Quote from: his holiness nb on May 03, 2007, 10:13:22 AM
Sammy you put some arguments well, but you really are coming off as a total bigot here.
Aye right the ould bigotry card. Because I oppose the mixing of politics with education, I must be a bigot.

Schools are supposed to be about education, nothing else, not crackpot relegious theories, not political ideals, not propaganda, just education.

SammyG

Quote from: deiseach on May 02, 2007, 07:17:13 PM
Quote from: stephenite on May 02, 2007, 09:42:33 AM
Presumably if someone with no political affiliations send their kids to the same school it's alright ?

Any attempt to step away from the mainstream (i.e. Unionism) is political.
Strange comment, if you are making decisions purely for political reasons (whether they are socialist, neo-con, Republican, Unionist, christian right, whatever) then of course they are political decisions. How else could they be viewed?
Quote from: deiseach on May 02, 2007, 07:17:13 PM
So if you support Northern Ireland, it's apolitical. But support the Republic, it's political.
Well it's certainly not glory hunting?  ;) I don't understand this argument, how can choosing to support another country, not be a political decision (whether you agree with the decision or not, it's still a political one_.
Quote from: deiseach on May 02, 2007, 07:17:13 PM
It's great to have the status quo on your side.
If Status Quo were playing in my back garden, I'd close the curtains.  ;)

his holiness nb

"Sorry I mis-read your original post, I now get what you're saying. If people are using their childrens education as a means to 'bash the Brits' (or further any other political philosophy) then I think that's wrong. You obviously don't agree, so fair enough"

Twist it again Sammy!! I said they ARE NOT bashing the brits by sending them to Irish schools.
Its about pride in their national language, not about the Brits.

"To be honest I wouldn't want somebody who thinks Bobby Sands is a role model, to be teaching my kids"

But they arent TEACHING about Bobby Sands, its their own political beliefs which THEY DONT TEACH, so whats the problem???
I said it before, its the same curriculum just in a different language!!!!
Also, how do you know the teachers think Bobby Sands is a role model just because whoever runs the school shop sells a book about him????

"We are talking about what they teach here remember.
See previous answer"

And again, they arent teaching about Bobby Sands.

"Aye right the ould bigotry card. Because I oppose the mixing of politics with education, I must be a bigot.
Schools are supposed to be about education, nothing else, not crackpot relegious theories, not political ideals, not propaganda, just education"

No Sammy not because you oppose mixing politics with education, I oppose that too.
You are a bigot because you are saying they are mixing politics with education, when they are not!
This is purely because you dont like Irish language schools because, well, its all a bit too "Irish" for you.
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