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[T Fearon]

Think for myself? You mean create my own Wee God and make the rules for him and apply them to myself? All Catholic teaching is informed by sacred scripture,not just "made up"

[omaghjoe]

Tony What are you trying to achieve with these posts? Genuinely what are you trying to achieve?

If its WUMing, fair enuff, you have achieved that in spectacular fashion!

If it to try and prove your opinion right then you are failing spectacularly! But why do you want so badly to prove yourself right in the first place dont you believe it yourself?

If its to genuinely spread the word of God then you are also failing spectaluarly. The word of God is wide ranging and not over focused on single doctrine, and it appears that you arent very well versed in the theology of the Catholic church anyway. If you genuinely want to do this then I would advise to start with something less obiviously controversial and judgmental otherwise you'll just get people's back up. Maybe you should think about becoming a catechist, you would have the knowledge to teach others and probably more importantly you would be able to recognise those who are willing to learn.

In any case a secular gaaboard is not the place to try and hammer Catholic home doctrine that many practicing Catholics dont even adhere to

[T Fearon]

There are a variety of people who post on these threads.The majority are anti Catholic theophobes who will never be convinced about the existence of God never mind Catholic theology.

However there are a few who are lukewarm but not disbelieving, who sadly have an erroneous view of a God who loves unconditionally and thus one is bound for heaven regardless of sin etc.It is to these people I am pointing out the teaching of the Catholic Church which is basically sin is to be avoided and repented from and only those who do so will experience God's compassion and mercy but this is wholly conditional upon bring contrite and turning away from sin.

[annapr]

There are a variety of people who post on these threads.The majority are anti Catholic theophobes who will never be convinced about the existence of God never mind Catholic theology.

However there are a few who are lukewarm but not disbelieving, who sadly have an erroneous view of a God who loves unconditionally and thus one is bound for heaven regardless of sin etc.It is to these people I am pointing out the teaching of the Catholic Church which is basically sin is to be avoided and repented from and only those who do so will experience God's compassion and mercy but this is wholly conditional upon bring contrite and turning away from sin.

For anyone that is 'lukewarm' listening to you would completely turn them off everything got to do with the Catholic Church.
The likes of you are doing more harm than good IMO. Anyone reading your ramblings would surely say I don't want to be a part of anything someone like you is a part of.

[T Fearon]

I don't matter.God does though and it is he who must be pleased and obeyed.

[bennydorano]

OJ v TF in a Religious discussion could potentially be worthy of PPV TV.

[stew]

http://www.derryjournal.com/news/video-living-together-before-marriage-not-good-archbishop-eamon-martin-1-7053071#axzz3qmzKhhaz.

It really is time that the Church switched the emphasis from an infinitely compassionate  God (thus leading many to the erroneous conclusion that he will tolerate anything due to unconditional love) to the reality of one who has laid down rules and whose compassion can only be accessed through sincere repentance and avoidance of sin.

Tony

If you had any nads you should sit out side Mass and challenge people on the way in as to whether they believe in your literal truths? Anyway best of luck with that or any success you or anyone who shares your vile and repugnant views has in any election they might stand in.

Not meaning to drag this down to personal abuse but clearly are a dick

I admire Tony for having the intestinal fortitude to put his beliefs out there and defend what he see's as his corner, I have no gra for the Catholic Church but day what you like, the man is consistent and has a mind of his own, unlike a lot on here who hide under the banner of left wing socialism.

[Eamonnca1]

http://www.derryjournal.com/news/video-living-together-before-marriage-not-good-archbishop-eamon-martin-1-7053071#axzz3qmzKhhaz.

It really is time that the Church switched the emphasis from an infinitely compassionate  God (thus leading many to the erroneous conclusion that he will tolerate anything due to unconditional love) to the reality of one who has laid down rules and whose compassion can only be accessed through sincere repentance and avoidance of sin.

I seem to remember the Columban Fathers (or was it the Redemptorists?) doing a novena (or was it a mission) around our way years ago and preaching the precise opposite of what you're advocating. Looks like there's no room for them in Tony's Fundamentalist Catholic Church.

[muppet]

If you are a Christian and a Believer what other approach is valid? If we are all going to Heaven regardless what was the point of Jesus' earthly ministry?

I take your point about the average mass goer and would accept that many are routine nominal Catholics only

Why would God be nice to everyone? Surely he will only reward people like Tony?

Religion has provided you with the perfect outlet for your deep hatred of anything different to you. If that is the point of Jesus' teachings, then you are laughing. If not..........you're f*cked....

[easytiger95]

I don't matter.God does though and it is he who must be pleased and obeyed.

I like crazy Tony. We're only a few replies away from him whipping out the Kool-Aid and offering us all a drink.

[T Fearon]

What is fundamentalist about believing that salvation requires belief in Jesus,and avoidance of sin and sincere repentance therefrom? Is this not the basic belief of all mainstream Churches?

Very simple really and quite logical.Essentially getting what one deserves.If this is not the case and we are all destined for heaven why did Christ come to Earth? If God doesn't exist what is the point of life?

[Maguire01]

http://www.derryjournal.com/news/video-living-together-before-marriage-not-good-archbishop-eamon-martin-1-7053071#axzz3qmzKhhaz.

It really is time that the Church switched the emphasis from an infinitely compassionate  God (thus leading many to the erroneous conclusion that he will tolerate anything due to unconditional love) to the reality of one who has laid down rules and whose compassion can only be accessed through sincere repentance and avoidance of sin.

Tony

If you had any nads you should sit out side Mass and challenge people on the way in as to whether they believe in your literal truths? Anyway best of luck with that or any success you or anyone who shares your vile and repugnant views has in any election they might stand in.

Not meaning to drag this down to personal abuse but clearly are a dick

I admire Tony for having the intestinal fortitude to put his beliefs out there and defend what he see's as his corner, I have no gra for the Catholic Church but day what you like, the man is consistent and has a mind of his own, unlike a lot on here who hide under the banner of left wing socialism.

Are you reading the same thread? He's telling us that his position is dictated, to the letter, by religious dogma. Surely that's the polar opposite of having a mind of his own?

[T Fearon]

Er,,having studied that "dogma" and using my own mind to decide that I accept it,without any external coercion,is in fact me thinking for myself.

[muppet]

What is fundamentalist about believing that salvation requires belief in Jesus,and avoidance of sin and sincere repentance therefrom? Is this not the basic belief of all mainstream Churches?

Very simple really and quite logical.Essentially getting what one deserves.If this is not the case and we are all destined for heaven why did Christ come to Earth? If God doesn't exist what is the point of life?

Did Jesus tell you to disown any family member who happened to be gay?

What do you think such a hostile, prejudiced act would warrant as a reward from God?

[T Fearon]

I would not associate with any sinner (family or otherwise) who refuses to accept they are committing sin.Naturally if they were trying to move away from sin that would be a different story.