Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.

Started by Harold Disgracey, November 27, 2014, 02:13:34 PM

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Is Gregory Campbell a bollocks?

Yes
13 (18.6%)
No, he's a cnut
57 (81.4%)

Total Members Voted: 70

michaelg

Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
I suspect some/a lot of Unionists see the existence of Nationalists/ Catholics/Irish/Taigs/Fenians as a "concession"
Says the man from Roscommon.

red hander

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)

The drink can do that to you

JoG2

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 24, 2018, 06:07:56 PM
Campbell is a perfect example of why we'll just have to write off the current generation of unionist politicians and bide our time until more reasonable people come to the fore. Maybe as memories of the Troubles recede they'll lose some of their bitterness.

You'd hope so, but the next career politician will be along to take Campbell place. He's got a catholic married into the family, half his soccer team are gaa men who he ferries around the north-west on a Sat, he helps out many a nationalist on the quiet.. The hooer says what he needs to to keep his seat. Himself and his ilk are not leaders of their people,  quite the opposite in fact

imtommygunn

Quote from: red hander on January 24, 2018, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)

The drink can do that to you

It must have been some amount of drink!

red hander

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 09:38:59 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 24, 2018, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)

The drink can do that to you

It must have been some amount of drink!

That, and a f****** tough paper round.  ;D Supposed to be a complete piss artist (allegedly)

6th sam

This fleg behaviour and it's apologists are so farcical, it's probably best ignored.
Gregory Campbell, appears articulate and therefore moderately intelligent, anecdotally there are reasonable aspects of his personality, however he has a secure mandate on the basis of his public persona of unreasonableness. Therefore he knows that coming out with the same vitriolic nonsense will be enough to keep the ££££s coming in  for a lock more years! A sad indictment on him, his party and those that continue to vote for him.
Barry McIlduff on the other hand, makes an obviously unintentional mistake (incredibly even some republicans still seem think he meant to cause hurt, despite all evidence to the contrary) and the media and politicians are up in arms, manipulating this human error , causing it to dominate the news for weeks, with the resulting publicity pouring further salt in the wounds of Kingsmills victims.
However the media, and most of the public seem to have no problem with flegs deliberately erected to cause hurt to  victims and the fact that this is wilfully defended by an MP, whilst one of the most prominent unionist politicians and long time minister in the Assembly calls our Taoiseach a nutcase?????
Meanwhile, we are ungoverned and ungovernable, with further blows to health, education, jobs.
The unionist people are completely leaderless, with their politicians , like Nero, fiddling while their beloved "country" burns.
Oh for a statesmanlike figure to emerge from unionism and or nationalism to help us all move in to the real world.
Bizarre in the extreme!!

Orior

I'm also waiting on Ruth Dudley Edwards tweeting something to say that these flags are perfectly okay, and it is only the shinnerbots who are the problem.

Regards
Orior (not a shinnerbot)
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

Itchy

Quote from: TheOptimist on January 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 24, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame

East Londonderry DUP MP Gregory Campbell denied the flags were sectarian, claiming they were a "reaction to bonfires, parades and other events in the Bogside".

Someone really needs to explain to the boul Gregory what sectarian means  ::) ::)

Surely this is on Par with McElduff, without any room for doubt in this case? Real double standards among unionism, but I think more and more are catching on to their outdated tactics.

Exactly. This is why Mcelduff had to go as it shows the total hypocrisy and lack of leadership in unionism. My hope is your normal middle ground unionist will see this and reject this politics. Unionism is at a crossroads, demographic is against them and the DUP is on the idiot side in brexit. Should they be doing deals with the nationalist parties or f**k acting with flags sgain.

yellowcard

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)

Had to check this out and it turns out that you are correct. That's unbelievable, I genuinely had him down as a man in his 50's.

6th sam

Quote from: Itchy on January 24, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on January 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 24, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame

East Londonderry DUP MP Gregory Campbell denied the flags were sectarian, claiming they were a "reaction to bonfires, parades and other events in the Bogside".

Someone really needs to explain to the boul Gregory what sectarian means  ::) ::)

Surely this is on Par with McElduff, without any room for doubt in this case? Real double standards among unionism, but I think more and more are catching on to their outdated tactics.

Exactly. This is why Mcelduff had to go as it shows the total hypocrisy and lack of leadership in unionism. My hope is your normal middle ground unionist will see this and reject this politics. Unionism is at a crossroads, demographic is against them and the DUP is on the idiot side in brexit. Should they be doing deals with the nationalist parties or f**k acting with flags sgain.

"normal middle ground unionists" are genuinely embarassed with this nonsense. They are our friends and work colleagues, and their politics doesn't define them. As long as their britishness is respected they will be happy to work in any new constitutional arrangement, including in an all-ireland context. Thats the key for nationalists/republicans-reassure enough unionists that their britishness will be respected, and isolate and challenge  reactionary anti-irish orangeism, which is holding us all back, unionist and nationalist. Sadly , we have managed to do neither, to date. We have not managed to embrace and align with moderate unionism, and have  failed to unify to consistently challenge orangeism/flegism which is solely based on domination and retaining the upper hand during their own lifetime, with no consideration for the position of their offspring.
When normal middle ground unionist Naomi Long bucked the trend by outvoting Peter Robinson, the fleggers cynically targetted her and her middle ground party. Interestingly Allianze vote held, but the fleg protesters and their apologists succeeded in cynicalling mobilising the protestant working class once again, for short term gains, but loss of empathy and respect for hardline unionism.
ironically moderate unionism would sit much easier within an equality/respect coalition, than a pan-unionist coalition.

johnneycool

Quote from: 6th sam on January 25, 2018, 12:04:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 24, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on January 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 24, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame

East Londonderry DUP MP Gregory Campbell denied the flags were sectarian, claiming they were a "reaction to bonfires, parades and other events in the Bogside".

Someone really needs to explain to the boul Gregory what sectarian means  ::) ::)

Surely this is on Par with McElduff, without any room for doubt in this case? Real double standards among unionism, but I think more and more are catching on to their outdated tactics.

Exactly. This is why Mcelduff had to go as it shows the total hypocrisy and lack of leadership in unionism. My hope is your normal middle ground unionist will see this and reject this politics. Unionism is at a crossroads, demographic is against them and the DUP is on the idiot side in brexit. Should they be doing deals with the nationalist parties or f**k acting with flags sgain.

"normal middle ground unionists" are genuinely embarassed with this nonsense. They are our friends and work colleagues, and their politics doesn't define them. As long as their britishness is respected they will be happy to work in any new constitutional arrangement, including in an all-ireland context. Thats the key for nationalists/republicans-reassure enough unionists that their britishness will be respected, and isolate and challenge  reactionary anti-irish orangeism, which is holding us all back, unionist and nationalist. Sadly , we have managed to do neither, to date. We have not managed to embrace and align with moderate unionism, and have  failed to unify to consistently challenge orangeism/flegism which is solely based on domination and retaining the upper hand during their own lifetime, with no consideration for the position of their offspring.
When normal middle ground unionist Naomi Long bucked the trend by outvoting Peter Robinson, the fleggers cynically targetted her and her middle ground party. Interestingly Allianze vote held, but the fleg protesters and their apologists succeeded in cynicalling mobilising the protestant working class once again, for short term gains, but loss of empathy and respect for hardline unionism.
ironically moderate unionism would sit much easier within an equality/respect coalition, than a pan-unionist coalition.

I can see where you're coming from and IMO there has been strides by certain Shinner leaders in this regard, Marty meeting the Queen on a few occasions, Shinner Lord Mayors attending Remembrance Day Cenotaph commemorations and so forth and once in a while a DUP'er will attend the odd GAA game and that's as far as its went. Even at council level Nationalist councils are more inclined to have power sharing agreements in place than their unionist counterparts.

The ferociousness of the DUP stance on the Irish language act has set this all back a good bit as they aren't counternancing any form of Irishness to be entertained let alone be promoted makes it hard for Shinners to go the next step in reassuring the middle ground Unionist that their Britishness is safe when ultimately it isn't.

There's also an onus on these normal middle ground unionists to grow a set of balls and lead rather than be led as the biggest threat to the union is the DUP with their Brexit stance and not Sinn Fein and they need to see that.

Rossfan

Quote from: michaelg on January 24, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
I suspect some/a lot of Unionists see the existence of Nationalists/ Catholics/Irish/Taigs/Fenians as a "concession"
Says the man from Roscommon.
Interesting that you didn't address the point but played the man instead :-\
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Frank_The_Tank

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)
carla lockhart in the same boat.  Sammy morrison from tuv as well
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

general_lee

Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 25, 2018, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)
carla lockhart in the same boat.  Sammy morrison from tuv as well
Carla Lockhart doesn't look old she's just got a face for radio. The other boy is just fat

ONARAGGATIP

Quote from: general_lee on January 25, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 25, 2018, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)
carla lockhart in the same boat.  Sammy morrison from tuv as well
Carla Lockhart doesn't look old she's just got a face for radio. The other boy is just fat

aye, wild thin too but she defo doesn't look in her 60s.