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Say it quietly around the Reds on here, but if Klopp goes this season without winning the title will his tenure be deemed as an underachievement?

After all they have been the best team in the world since he took over 

Granted they ran into a City team in their prime, but one Covid EPL title seems to be underwhelming.

Unpopular opinion I'm guessing.

One of Liverpool's greatest managers, end of story.

Without him, City would be heading for seven in a row. No one else has even run Pep close, never mind taken him to the final day. Plus, three CL final appearances, one won.

Underwhelming me arse.

Leicester not win one during pep's time?

Pep joined City year after.. Conte (Pep's 1st Season) and Klopp only managers to beat City to the title

Ah.. some record all the same, regardless of the dough

Say it quietly around the Reds on here, but if Klopp goes this season without winning the title will his tenure be deemed as an underachievement?

After all they have been the best team in the world since he took over 

Granted they ran into a City team in their prime, but one Covid EPL title seems to be underwhelming.

Unpopular opinion I'm guessing.

One of Liverpool's greatest managers, end of story.

Without him, City would be heading for seven in a row. No one else has even run Pep close, never mind taken him to the final day. Plus, three CL final appearances, one won.

Underwhelming me arse.

Leicester not win won during pep's time?

It was the pump that heats the water that's fecked!

So at the the boiler there are two pumps one for the rads and the other for heating the water.

If the spindle isn't spinning then the motor isn't working and that was the case, I said can ya fix it? nope, its a throw away world, ya need a new one

The plumber said that the water should still warm up though, it isn't, anyways I've been doing the Wim Hof experience for the last 3 days!

Did the pump look like this?



I've three of these feckers in the house and one will need replaced.

There's isolating valves either side of it, so toying with the idea of doing it myself, but as they're in the hotpress and don't want to make a balls of it.

That's the one, I've two, but that they are in the garage...

Unscrewing that copper nut in the middle let me know that it wasn't spinning inside, after that I was stumped


I've a mate that loves all that DIY stuff, the easy stuff I've no problems with, But I know if I try and remove that and replace it there will be problems, pipes will need replaced and threads will be fecked and whatever else would go wrong will, with me.

Turn that pump on and go to the garage.
Give it a gentle tap with a hammer to see if that frees it up and if that doesn't work there's a wee red dial for the speed settings, it's normally set to the middle speed, but change it to the top speed and that might free it up as well.

It'll still need replace one way or the other, but at least you'll get some hot water for a day or two

Aye, will give that a go if the boyo hasn't changed it by the time I get home! Will have to put my prices up for refereeing 

Klopp was a huge success and took a very under achieving Liverpool to a title and many cups.

His style and way he handled the press was refreshing and the PL will missing a huge character and be worse for it.

God help whoever comes in and replaces him, they'll be on to a hiding to nothing if history is to repeat itself and thats not using Fergie's example, bar Bayern its replicated in most big clubs when a huge personality leaves, though the likes of Madrid get rid fairly quick of managers that don't bring immediate success.

It was the pump that heats the water that's fecked!

So at the the boiler there are two pumps one for the rads and the other for heating the water.

If the spindle isn't spinning then the motor isn't working and that was the case, I said can ya fix it? nope, its a throw away world, ya need a new one

The plumber said that the water should still warm up though, it isn't, anyways I've been doing the Wim Hof experience for the last 3 days!

Did the pump look like this?



I've three of these feckers in the house and one will need replaced.

There's isolating valves either side of it, so toying with the idea of doing it myself, but as they're in the hotpress and don't want to make a balls of it.

That's the one, I've two, but that they are in the garage...

Unscrewing that copper nut in the middle let me know that it wasn't spinning inside, after that I was stumped


I've a mate that loves all that DIY stuff, the easy stuff I've no problems with, But I know if I try and remove that and replace it there will be problems, pipes will need replaced and threads will be fecked and whatever else would go wrong will, with me.

It was the pump that heats the water that's fecked!

So at the the boiler there are two pumps one for the rads and the other for heating the water.

If the spindle isn't spinning then the motor isn't working and that was the case, I said can ya fix it? nope, its a throw away world, ya need a new one

The plumber said that the water should still warm up though, it isn't, anyways I've been doing the Wim Hof experience for the last 3 days!

Pretty sure the pump doesn't heat the water 
From my limited plumbing experience.

That's probably my bad on the explaining part. More so the pump that pumps the water to the cylinder in the hot press?

Either way the pump needs replaced lol

To be fair he was a bit confused on why it still wasn't heating the water.

Fingers crossed that it will be solved today, at some point maybe next week who knows with tradesmen

I started out after school as YTP with the housing executive when I left school doing plumbing, at that time all the executives houses were having central heating installed around Belfast, the lure of more money as an apprentice at a different trade elsewhere was too much (at the time) to refuse!

Must be serious money to be made as a decent tradesperson considering the lack of them about

It was the pump that heats the water that's fecked!

So at the the boiler there are two pumps one for the rads and the other for heating the water.

If the spindle isn't spinning then the motor isn't working and that was the case, I said can ya fix it? nope, its a throw away world, ya need a new one

The plumber said that the water should still warm up though, it isn't, anyways I've been doing the Wim Hof experience for the last 3 days!

The biggest problem I see with this is some players in the heat of the game will wave away any medical attention so that they can stay on the pitch, which in turn will lead to missed concussions or other injuries

The common sense approach would be for the team that has a player waiting to come on would be to knock the ball outta play as soon as possible so their player can come straight back on

Be some gurning soon especially come championship

It's went from a double decker to a people carrier very quickly

That miss by Salah hopefully doesn't come back and bite Liverpool in the bum

Klopp has to all in here! Pressuring from the get go..

"It's not just the removal of the helmet though, it's if you've to stop the play to allow a physio on at all."

If I have to stop play.

Though if a physio comes on and can administer a spray while play continues I'm happy with that, should I have to blow the whistle and the player requires assistance they have to go off, now seeing as it was my first real go at it, I waved the player on rather than waiting for a break, he was genuinely hurt from a tackle from the other team, its a bit unfair surely to disadvantage them twice? 

But is that not wrong, going by them new rules?

Completely

Bitta common sense needs to be applied and while I'm not against following it to the letter, sometimes it's actually counterproductive and not serving the reason why it's introduced

"It's not just the removal of the helmet though, it's if you've to stop the play to allow a physio on at all."

If I have to stop play.

Though if a physio comes on and can administer a spray while play continues I'm happy with that, should I have to blow the whistle and the player requires assistance they have to go off, now seeing as it was my first real go at it, I waved the player on rather than waiting for a break, he was genuinely hurt from a tackle from the other team, its a bit unfair surely to disadvantage them twice? 

I know it's easy to say the best team lost but the concentration levels from Madrid were amazing. And then when it was needed they had lads like Nacho and especially Rudiger jumping in.

City tried to pull them around but it's not like Palace and their low block, these boys were not for turning. Also in the extra time Real did fire a few warning shots to keep City honest.

Truth be told I don't like Pep as he just seems like a flase hoor.

To defend against that quality of player under that much pressure for so long and to not make any mistakes is hugely impressive. Carvahal and Rudiger are boys you would want in the trenches - they'd do well in GAA them boys. City were better but like someone said they didn't really create the chances.

The thing as well is City can completely change the type of threat they have -e.g. Doku on for Grealish going from someone who cuts inside to sheer pace - yet they still dealt with it.

Haaland was non existent too. Absolutely non existent.

Didn't watch it, listened to some on way back from game, but how many balls were played into Haaland, is he, this year getting the same support? Still joint top in the league, I know some clubs would love a 20 plus striker lol

Shane O'Donnell and Adam Hogan great at 'winning' frees this way.  Raising their hands high in the tackle and the ref. gives them a free.

And Eoin Cody, and Conor Whelan and half the Cork team and Cathal Barrett and I could go on...

If the defender isn't tackling lawfully which is the first issue being ignored by all and sundry then of course players are going to engineer fouls out if it.
Fix the first problem and then other problems like overcarrying, head high tackling, dipping in the tackle go away.

Did a game last night, pitch conditions meant that lads would be losing their balance and slipping or sliding in and out of tackles, granted high summer (whenever that is) pitches firm up and that gives me less hassle.

Lads were looking frees for sliding in to collect the ball saying they were pushed, they initiated the slide first, play on, due to the heavy conditions players were being 'held' up more, again, no obvious free like arms being pulled shirts being pulled and so on, if he doesn't release the ball he'll over carry it.

In these incidents the cry is there all over him! There could be 15 players all over him, if there is no actual free being committed then play on.

As you say Johnny, get the first free, it depends on your interpretation of that first free lol

As frustrating as it is, sometimes there is not that obvious free so playing on is the best option

Not all tackles are frees, clear as mud

Did my first game with the new rule that if a physio comes on to the pitch and player removes his helmet he has to leave the pitch and can only come on in a break of play.. They had no idea!!