so we're in the European rapid reaction force courtesy of Edna where do you think we'll see our first action, middle east? Korea north/south,Afghanistan?(we're already there) northern ireland? yes sir the world better watch out as 'we' flex our military muscle. i understand the Italians have the fastest jet fighter in the world so at the first sign of trouble they can be at home eaten mamas ravioli before they get a scratch. seriously though whats this all about I'll take a chance and say....emm... oil! or am i being too cynical
Again, I'm not a huge fan of Enda, but can you explain to me why it's courtesy of him?
Quote from: lawnseed on February 18, 2011, 11:15:01 AM
so we're in the European rapid reaction force courtesy of Edna where do you think we'll see our first action, middle east? Korea north/south,Afghanistan?(we're already there) northern ireland? yes sir the world better watch out as 'we' flex our military muscle. i understand the Italians have the fastest jet fighter in the world so at the first sign of trouble they can be at home eaten mamas ravioli before they get a scratch. seriously though whats this all about I'll take a chance and say....emm... oil! or am i being too cynical
Lawnseed why do you write like a 14 year old girl? An illiterate 14 year old girl.
its in their manifesto launched by noonan two days ago. its not part of anyone elses list. so who else?
The people of the free state who voted for the Lisbon treaty
Quote from: Final Whistle on February 18, 2011, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on February 18, 2011, 11:15:01 AM
so we're in the European rapid reaction force courtesy of Edna where do you think we'll see our first action, middle east? Korea north/south,Afghanistan?(we're already there) northern ireland? yes sir the world better watch out as 'we' flex our military muscle. i understand the Italians have the fastest jet fighter in the world so at the first sign of trouble they can be at home eaten mamas ravioli before they get a scratch. seriously though whats this all about I'll take a chance and say....emm... oil! or am i being too cynical
Lawnseed why do you write like a 14 year old girl? An illiterate 14 year old girl.
we are not talking about me at the moment whistle. are you in the forces yourself?
Quote from: stephenite on February 18, 2011, 11:35:03 AM
The people of the free state who voted for the Lisbon treaty
all of the pro lisbon parties promised this was'nt going to be the outcome in both 1and 2
Have you a link to that?
Quote from: stephenite on February 18, 2011, 11:42:40 AM
Have you a link to that?
not at the moment but we both heard the campaigns. did anyone say to the electorate we're going to send our kids out to war?
further to that why- if we have the choice not to do it, why is Enda/fg volunteering our forces
Yeah I heard the campaign and thought it was crystal clear that it was part of the treaty, that was my understanding of it, I seem to recall Ganley making sure everyone knew it. But as much as I try to devour all policies and interviews, I'm abroad and may have missed certain parts. If it's not a compulsory part of the treaty than fair enough, I was under the impression it was and the people were aware of this when voting
Quote from: stephenite on February 18, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
Yeah I heard the campaign and thought it was crystal clear that it was part of the treaty, that was my understanding of it, I seem to recall Ganley making sure everyone knew it. But as much as I try to devour all policies and interviews, I'm abroad and may have missed certain parts. If it's not a compulsory part of the treaty than fair enough, I was under the impression it was and the people were aware of this when voting
people were probably aware but when they rejected and had to vote again they realised there was nothing they could do about it probably as it would be re-run until they got the yes vote
Quote from: stephenite on February 18, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
Yeah I heard the campaign and thought it was crystal clear that it was part of the treaty, that was my understanding of it, I seem to recall Ganley making sure everyone knew it. But as much as I try to devour all policies and interviews, I'm abroad and may have missed certain parts. If it's not a compulsory part of the treaty than fair enough, I was under the impression it was and the people were aware of this when voting
Quote from: Banana Man on February 18, 2011, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: stephenite on February 18, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
Yeah I heard the campaign and thought it was crystal clear that it was part of the treaty, that was my understanding of it, I seem to recall Ganley making sure everyone knew it. But as much as I try to devour all policies and interviews, I'm abroad and may have missed certain parts. If it's not a compulsory part of the treaty than fair enough, I was under the impression it was and the people were aware of this when voting
people were probably aware but when they rejected and had to vote again they realised there was nothing they could do about it probably as it would be re-run until they got the yes vote
banana i think it was mentioned a few times by ganley but dont think the shinners hi-lighted it at all, and i think the attitude was on the side of the public 'this will never occur' ah sure who'd we be fighten with.. etc well its happening WE ARE IN the united states of europe and our kids are going to be at the behest of france and germany etc the germans cant fight a war its against their constitution they can only do logistics etc the french only do 'bloodbath' especially if the combatants are armed with stones, bows and arrows. the brits wont get involved they're with the yanks. so whos left us and the poles- cannon fodder
I apologise if i'm inaccurate as i'm recalling completely from memory of the Lisbon Treaty referendae (isn't that the plural? It's not often you have to refer to referendum in its plural format...cheers Bertie) which were as clear as mud. Now what i gathered from them was that the first Treaty did include Ireland in a European farce of some sort and this was a topic of much disputed debate and eventually contributed to victory for the NO campaign. However, I was of the opinion that the second treaty proposal altered this so that it ensure the maintenence of Ireland's neutrality. Maybe I'm wrong. However, I'm pretty sure that this was one of the concessions made to get a YES vote through.
If this is the case then Ireland's place in the force would be at the behest of future government...
Quote from: Poc me on February 18, 2011, 12:26:26 PM
If this is the case then Ireland's place in the force would be at the behest of future government...
and that would be a bargaining chip for other things such as maybe defaulting on a loan?
Rouge Diablo...you never know what sort of seedy things our bodies could be used for!!!! Especially with them openminded Germans in charge!
Referendum - Referenda
Mensa - Mensae
Dominus - Domini
to be pedantic
apologies Denn forever...I did ask to be corrected so you may be excused of being pedantic ;)
Quote from: lawnseed on February 18, 2011, 12:15:47 PM
Quote from: stephenite on February 18, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
Yeah I heard the campaign and thought it was crystal clear that it was part of the treaty, that was my understanding of it, I seem to recall Ganley making sure everyone knew it. But as much as I try to devour all policies and interviews, I'm abroad and may have missed certain parts. If it's not a compulsory part of the treaty than fair enough, I was under the impression it was and the people were aware of this when voting
Quote from: Banana Man on February 18, 2011, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: stephenite on February 18, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
Yeah I heard the campaign and thought it was crystal clear that it was part of the treaty, that was my understanding of it, I seem to recall Ganley making sure everyone knew it. But as much as I try to devour all policies and interviews, I'm abroad and may have missed certain parts. If it's not a compulsory part of the treaty than fair enough, I was under the impression it was and the people were aware of this when voting
people were probably aware but when they rejected and had to vote again they realised there was nothing they could do about it probably as it would be re-run until they got the yes vote
banana i think it was mentioned a few times by ganley but dont think the shinners hi-lighted it at all, and i think the attitude was on the side of the public 'this will never occur' ah sure who'd we be fighten with.. etc well its happening WE ARE IN the united states of europe and our kids are going to be at the behest of france and germany etc the germans cant fight a war its against their constitution they can only do logistics etc the french only do 'bloodbath' especially if the combatants are armed with stones, bows and arrows. the brits wont get involved they're with the yanks. so whos left us and the poles- cannon fodder
if that indeed is the end scenario it's a frightening propsect, the homework obviously wasn't done on this, especially if Germany and France have substantial leverage over us such as a massive bailout or default of this bailout. Scary indeed.
<stephenite> Talk about a European strike force as an election issue is scare-mongering rubbish intended to deflect attention away from SF and real issues</stephenite>
Quote from: lawnseed on February 18, 2011, 11:15:01 AM
so we're in the European rapid reaction force courtesy of Enda
Can we have a reference to this please, google isn't turning up anything for me.
michael noonan announced it two days ago its fine gael policy
During the second referendum all the pro parties , pooh poohed the idea that Irish Forces would become part of any European Military Alliance. That is a matter of record. Yet these brazen liars will be returned to Government next week. Truly people get the Government they deserve, long may they enjoy it
what going to be the reaction when a plane load of black bags arrive home... THANKS ENDA
Quote from: lawnseed on February 18, 2011, 08:25:51 PM
what going to be the reaction when a plane load of black bags arrive home... THANKS ENDA
Lawnseed, what have they to say about the ones dug up in Louth. Now come on imaginary dead bodies v real ones.
Some Party leaders are far closer to slaughtering innocent Irish people than Enda.
didnt anyone tell you about the ceasefire mayo. the wars over. whereas you dont even know yet where irish kids are going to fall or on whos behalf or for what cause, this is a vote loser mayo and its only a matter of time before enda gets it up him from the likes of vincent browne or pearse doherty, and you know he'll shite the nest
Lawnfeed, your army has been in this rapid reaction force for sometime, the same army that patrolled your streets for some time until Gerry and his cohorts surrendered.
Quote from: lawnseed on February 18, 2011, 08:45:06 PM
didnt anyone tell you about the ceasefire mayo. the wars over. whereas you dont even know yet where irish kids are going to fall or on whos behalf or for what cause, this is a vote loser mayo and its only a matter of time before enda gets it up him from the likes of vincent browne or pearse doherty, and you know he'll shite the nest
Oh that makes it ok so does it?
Grand. You might tell the McConville and Oliver families so before you go lecturing Enda Kenny about body bags.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on February 18, 2011, 08:48:03 PM
Lawnfeed, your army has been in this rapid reaction force for sometime, the same army that patrolled your streets for some time until Gerry and his cohorts surrendered.
wakey wakey sludgsie if you are refering to the british army which btw has more irishmen (staters) in it than are in the irish army in total. they are not party to the european rapid force theyre man enough to do their own dirty work.
Yes, I was referring to your army.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on February 18, 2011, 09:04:27 PM
Yes, I was referring to your army.
you'll be glad of them when the germans get our kids up shite creek without a paddle.
try youtube mary dillon army dreamers says it all. cara dillon john condon.. or watch john condon waterford boy soldier two parts