Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

red hander

#2447
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

I think its you that's Mr Sensitive. Also glorifying people getting killed in a war is a bit odd, but I suppose whatever gets you going
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

JoG2

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

I think its you that's Mr Sensitive. Also glorifying people getting killed in a war is a bit odd, but I suppose whatever gets you going

What war?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: JoG2 on January 24, 2024, 11:03:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

I think its you that's Mr Sensitive. Also glorifying people getting killed in a war is a bit odd, but I suppose whatever gets you going

What war?

Not getting into any deflection.. but

War is an intense armed conflict between states, governments, societies, or paramilitary groups such as mercenaries, insurgents, and militias. It is generally characterized by extreme violence, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces.

Hamas and those before Hamas and in the West Bank have openly talked about war with Israel and Israel have said the same thing

In a war/conflict/genocide  there are no winners

War and genocide studies is an interdisciplinary subject that identifies and analyzes the relationship between war and genocide, as well as the structural foundations of associated conflicts. Disciplines involved may include political science, geography, economics, sociology, international relations, and history.

There is general consensus among scholars that the problems of war and genocide are intimately linked as the two often accompany each other. However, there are varying thoughts and theoretical perspectives on the topic as it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 24, 2024, 11:03:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

I think its you that's Mr Sensitive. Also glorifying people getting killed in a war is a bit odd, but I suppose whatever gets you going

What war?

Not getting into any deflection.. but

War is an intense armed conflict between states, governments, societies, or paramilitary groups such as mercenaries, insurgents, and militias. It is generally characterized by extreme violence, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces.

Hamas and those before Hamas and in the West Bank have openly talked about war with Israel and Israel have said the same thing

In a war/conflict/genocide  there are no winners

War and genocide studies is an interdisciplinary subject that identifies and analyzes the relationship between war and genocide, as well as the structural foundations of associated conflicts. Disciplines involved may include political science, geography, economics, sociology, international relations, and history.

There is general consensus among scholars that the problems of war and genocide are intimately linked as the two often accompany each other. However, there are varying thoughts and theoretical perspectives on the topic as it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
Can you give us a few examples to back up your thesis, Milltown?
Genocide is an extreme manifestation of war. After WW2 the world built institutions to prevent genocide in the future. Why have these institutions failed ?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2024, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 24, 2024, 11:03:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

I think its you that's Mr Sensitive. Also glorifying people getting killed in a war is a bit odd, but I suppose whatever gets you going

What war?

Not getting into any deflection.. but

War is an intense armed conflict between states, governments, societies, or paramilitary groups such as mercenaries, insurgents, and militias. It is generally characterized by extreme violence, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces.

Hamas and those before Hamas and in the West Bank have openly talked about war with Israel and Israel have said the same thing

In a war/conflict/genocide  there are no winners

War and genocide studies is an interdisciplinary subject that identifies and analyzes the relationship between war and genocide, as well as the structural foundations of associated conflicts. Disciplines involved may include political science, geography, economics, sociology, international relations, and history.

There is general consensus among scholars that the problems of war and genocide are intimately linked as the two often accompany each other. However, there are varying thoughts and theoretical perspectives on the topic as it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
Can you give us a few examples to back up your thesis, Milltown?
Genocide is an extreme manifestation of war. After WW2 the world built institutions to prevent genocide in the future. Why have these institutions failed ?

I just gave you the definitions of war, and genocide and war. Its not my thesis

Some people seem to think there are good deaths and bad deaths 

As said above, it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 12:35:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2024, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 24, 2024, 11:03:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

I think its you that's Mr Sensitive. Also glorifying people getting killed in a war is a bit odd, but I suppose whatever gets you going

What war?

Not getting into any deflection.. but

War is an intense armed conflict between states, governments, societies, or paramilitary groups such as mercenaries, insurgents, and militias. It is generally characterized by extreme violence, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces.

Hamas and those before Hamas and in the West Bank have openly talked about war with Israel and Israel have said the same thing

In a war/conflict/genocide  there are no winners

War and genocide studies is an interdisciplinary subject that identifies and analyzes the relationship between war and genocide, as well as the structural foundations of associated conflicts. Disciplines involved may include political science, geography, economics, sociology, international relations, and history.

There is general consensus among scholars that the problems of war and genocide are intimately linked as the two often accompany each other. However, there are varying thoughts and theoretical perspectives on the topic as it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
Can you give us a few examples to back up your thesis, Milltown?
Genocide is an extreme manifestation of war. After WW2 the world built institutions to prevent genocide in the future. Why have these institutions failed ?

I just gave you the definitions of war, and genocide and war. Its not my thesis

Some people seem to think there are good deaths and bad deaths 

As said above, it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
Genocide does not have to a part of war. It is beyond the pale.
Which scholars push the line that war and genocide are inseparable? I would love to know.
Did the war in the north morph into genocide? Why not? Were the Brits actually following the laws of war?

ThomasMullan

Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2024, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 24, 2024, 11:03:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

I think its you that's Mr Sensitive. Also glorifying people getting killed in a war is a bit odd, but I suppose whatever gets you going

What war?

Not getting into any deflection.. but

War is an intense armed conflict between states, governments, societies, or paramilitary groups such as mercenaries, insurgents, and militias. It is generally characterized by extreme violence, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces.

Hamas and those before Hamas and in the West Bank have openly talked about war with Israel and Israel have said the same thing

In a war/conflict/genocide  there are no winners

War and genocide studies is an interdisciplinary subject that identifies and analyzes the relationship between war and genocide, as well as the structural foundations of associated conflicts. Disciplines involved may include political science, geography, economics, sociology, international relations, and history.

There is general consensus among scholars that the problems of war and genocide are intimately linked as the two often accompany each other. However, there are varying thoughts and theoretical perspectives on the topic as it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
Can you give us a few examples to back up your thesis, Milltown?
Genocide is an extreme manifestation of war. After WW2 the world built institutions to prevent genocide in the future. Why have these institutions failed ?

Having the actual perpetrators of genocide sitting on the UN Security Council with a veto doesn't help things.

Russia (attempting genocide in Ukraine)
China (ongoing genocide against Uyghur people - despite what St. Clare of Hypocrosia says)
United States (backers of Israel perpetrating decades long slow motion genocide against Palestinians - now speeding up).

For the rest - it's easier to pretend genocide isn't happening otherwise you might have to do something about it.

seafoid

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Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2024, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 12:35:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2024, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 24, 2024, 11:03:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2024, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 23, 2024, 08:39:16 PMCheck out IDF Death and Destruction Count Team on X. Great tag 'We bring you good news'

Why would you be following that?

Dunno, like to annoy utter pricks who whinged about me upsetting their feelings and got me banned for two weeks. What do you think yourself, Mr Sensitive? Besides, gives us more information about the brave Palestinian resistance against the Zionist Nazi child murdering bastards.

I think its you that's Mr Sensitive. Also glorifying people getting killed in a war is a bit odd, but I suppose whatever gets you going

What war?

Not getting into any deflection.. but

War is an intense armed conflict between states, governments, societies, or paramilitary groups such as mercenaries, insurgents, and militias. It is generally characterized by extreme violence, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces.

Hamas and those before Hamas and in the West Bank have openly talked about war with Israel and Israel have said the same thing

In a war/conflict/genocide  there are no winners

War and genocide studies is an interdisciplinary subject that identifies and analyzes the relationship between war and genocide, as well as the structural foundations of associated conflicts. Disciplines involved may include political science, geography, economics, sociology, international relations, and history.

There is general consensus among scholars that the problems of war and genocide are intimately linked as the two often accompany each other. However, there are varying thoughts and theoretical perspectives on the topic as it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
Can you give us a few examples to back up your thesis, Milltown?
Genocide is an extreme manifestation of war. After WW2 the world built institutions to prevent genocide in the future. Why have these institutions failed ?

I just gave you the definitions of war, and genocide and war. Its not my thesis

Some people seem to think there are good deaths and bad deaths 

As said above, it continues to be a subject of scholarly analysis and debate
Genocide does not have to a part of war. It is beyond the pale.
Which scholars push the line that war and genocide are inseparable? I would love to know.
Did the war in the north morph into genocide? Why not? Were the Brits actually following the laws of war?
If the UDA infiltrated the British Army and declared war on all Taigs would it be acceptable to bomb the Ulster final because all Taigs are declared to be animals ? 
Answers on a postcard

There is no f**king way that there are scholars who justify genocide as a consequence of war.

Jell 0 Biafra

#2456
ICJ's preliminary judgment is that there is sufficient evidence to consider the charge of genocide.


https://twitter.com/saulstaniforth/status/1750858672207520002?s=46&t=8oLqNHLiemnJFQZY2zDdMw


Though they don't call for a ceasefire.

Eire90

nothing will happen from the court case no one is willing to step in and stop israel by force and you will probably never see netanyahu in the hague.

Main Street

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 26, 2024, 01:26:54 PMICJ's preliminary judgment is that there is sufficient evidence to consider the charge of genocide.


https://twitter.com/saulstaniforth/status/1750858672207520002?s=46&t=8oLqNHLiemnJFQZY2zDdMw


Though they don't call for a ceasefire.
Apparently it is within the rules for a country to wage war but one should follow the rules of waging war, one such rule  being 'do not commit genocide'. Calling for a ceasefire is not within the remit of the court, it needs to further investigate the allegations of genocide.

Out of interest, why do insert a link to an obscure twitter thread and not the BBC news website itself which has many informative articles on this subject, all within easy reach?

Jell 0 Biafra

That's where I got it from.  Staniforth has been very good on this issue.