Gooch Retires

[Syferus]

With the current Dublin side we're seeing that the Kerry-Tyrone debate of the last decade was a bit matterless. Neither would hack it against them.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

The problem is he is getting all these plaudits! Has this Kerry team not been put on a pedestal as the best team of that decade? Surely playing on a team with such stature should make it easier to be a person to drive on a team. How in that case when games were tight did they not eek out a win once? Look nobody is saying he was to blame for Kerry losing. Just he was not involved in upping the anti and eeking out a win from the Jaws of defeat. There is no doubting his skill, composure, brain. Just he did not have the full package.

Tomas was asked to name a game where he pulled them out of the fire. Plámás just looked ahead, he could not name one. It was not as if he was caught off guard. He would have been well prompted on the subject before the show began.

Eke, not "eek", eek! 

[From the Bunker]

The problem is he is getting all these plaudits! Has this Kerry team not been put on a pedestal as the best team of that decade? Surely playing on a team with such stature should make it easier to be a person to drive on a team. How in that case when games were tight did they not eek out a win once? Look nobody is saying he was to blame for Kerry losing. Just he was not involved in upping the anti and eeking out a win from the Jaws of defeat. There is no doubting his skill, composure, brain. Just he did not have the full package.

Tomas was asked to name a game where he pulled them out of the fire. Plámás just looked ahead, he could not name one. It was not as if he was caught off guard. He would have been well prompted on the subject before the show began.

Eke, not "eek", eek! 

Go raibh maith agat - Múinteoir

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Go raibh maith agat - Múinteoir

Ná habair é, a chara 

[randomusername]

With the current Dublin side we're seeing that the Kerry-Tyrone debate of the last decade was a bit matterless. Neither would hack it against them.

They probably wouldn't have hacked it against Mayo either considering the Dubs beat them by a point in two All-Ireland finals.

[Cunny Funt]

With the current Dublin side we're seeing that the Kerry-Tyrone debate of the last decade was a bit matterless. Neither would hack it against them.

The current Dublin side were beaten by a Kerry team today that aren't a patch on the previous Kerry AI winning teams or the Tyrone teams of 03,05,08. Time for you to move on or hack into something else.

[Syferus]

With the current Dublin side we're seeing that the Kerry-Tyrone debate of the last decade was a bit matterless. Neither would hack it against them.

The current Dublin side were beaten by a Kerry team today that aren't a patch on the previous Kerry AI winning teams or the Tyrone teams of 03,05,08. Time for you to move on or hack into something else.

I'm sorry, but I was under the impression Sam wasn't given out in April finals.

Congratulations to Kerry on their big win.

[Il Bomber Destro]

The problem is he is getting all these plaudits! Has this Kerry team not been put on a pedestal as the best team of that decade? Surely playing on a team with such stature should make it easier to be a person to drive on a team. How in that case when games were tight did they not eek out a win once? Look nobody is saying he was to blame for Kerry losing. Just he was not involved in upping the anti and eeking out a win from the Jaws of defeat. There is no doubting his skill, composure, brain. Just he did not have the full package.

Tomas was asked to name a game where he pulled them out of the fire. Plámás just looked ahead, he could not name one. It was not as if he was caught off guard. He would have been well prompted on the subject before the show began.

Tomas couldn't think of one because there wasn't one, whenever Kerry were in bother, Cooper disappeared but hush now, the Gooch Nazis will be out to let us know we're not allowed talk about it.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

With the current Dublin side we're seeing that the Kerry-Tyrone debate of the last decade was a bit matterless. Neither would hack it against them.

The current Dublin side were beaten by a Kerry team today that aren't a patch on the previous Kerry AI winning teams or the Tyrone teams of 03,05,08. Time for you to move on or hack into something else.

From that sufferin' syphilitic sisyphus-like hoor from Roscommon (and no offence to those good folk), 'tis actually a compliment of highest order to those he so insufferably casts aspersions on. Verily. 

[Syferus]

With the current Dublin side we're seeing that the Kerry-Tyrone debate of the last decade was a bit matterless. Neither would hack it against them.

The current Dublin side were beaten by a Kerry team today that aren't a patch on the previous Kerry AI winning teams or the Tyrone teams of 03,05,08. Time for you to move on or hack into something else.

From that sufferin' syphilitic sisyphus-like hoor from Roscommon (and no offence to those good folk), 'tis actually a compliment of highest order to those he so insufferably casts aspersions on. Verily. 

You still seem a bit upset about everything, in general.

[lenny]

He did, yeah.
Darragh, Tomás and a lot of other serious players were on those teams that lost to Tyrone & Dublin.
Why does Cooper bear responsibility for those losses?

Apparently he didn't get on thr ball often enough. Never did anything in those losses. Never looked for the ball. Never beat his marker. Never showed leadership. All the others showed such amazing leadership and did everything they were asked to, dug them out of holes, beat their marker, scored, defended, did the 'dirty work'. Cooper just ruined everything the other 15 players plus subs did. Apparently.

Correct and we can also now say bernard brogan isn't that good. In a tight game yesterday he didn't do enough to get his team over the line. The analysis by brolly was totally nonsensical and incredibly insulting to mayo and cork. Gooch is being damned for his superb performances in finals against those teams. Those teams are being dismissed as weak teams who just turned up to be slaughtered. Mayo and cork qualified for the final in those years by being very good teams and beating very good teams. They have shown in other finals that they are well capable of playing well in finals and putting it up to good teams. The fact that kerry beat them well in those finals has a lot to do with the fact that gooch was on the kerry team. The fact that kerry got so close in other finals had a lot to do with the fact they had gooch on their team. Gooch never hid in any final and he alaways was a threat even in losing matches. I've never seen him worse than about a 7/10 performance.

[Jinxy]

Brolly has a point about the overblown nature of the media coverage in the last week.
If he made that point, and that point alone, I would have no problem.
However, it's not Cooper's fault that the media now milk every story for every last headline or click-bait piece.
When Berno retires, which will be sooner rather than later, it'll be twice as bad.
That doesn't make him less of a player.

[Farrandeelin]

Sean Cavanagh isn't worth a shit either. Look at all those losses Tyrone suffered since 2008. Cavanagh is to blame for all those because he didn't show leadership.

[Jinxy]

I doubt Brolly would argue with you there. 

[lenny]

Sean Cavanagh isn't worth a shit either. Look at all those losses Tyrone suffered since 2008. Cavanagh is to blame for all those because he didn't show leadership.

And where was canavan's leadership in all the tight games he lost. Not worth a shit either using Brolly's criteria. He was great in the games Tyrone won but in the games they lost , that was when they needed him to step up.