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Re: The Palestine thread
« Reply #3075 on: April 10, 2018, 01:43:29 AM »
A couple of weeks ago the chief apologist for Israeli crimes, Mark Regev, paid a visit to Belfast to celebrate the life of
Belfast bron Isaac Herzog.

This is a montage of who met Regev, and who are celebrating the life of Herzog....





However, here is a bit of background on Isaac Herzog, the man they are all honoring......

Rabbi Herzog served as Rabbi of Belfast from 1916 to 1919 and was appointed Rabbi of Dublin in 1919. A fluent speaker of the Irish language, he supported the First Dáil and the Irish Republican cause during the Irish War of Independence, and became known as "the Sinn Féin Rabbi".

He went on to serve as Chief Rabbi of Ireland between 1922 and 1936, when he immigrated to Palestine to succeed Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook as Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi upon his death.

The following article is well worth reading for some further background to the man everyone has been celebrating recently......

https://thebrokenelbow.com/2014/01/03/fascinating-links-between-irgun-and-ira/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_HaLevi_Herzog

The Rubber Bandits also brought it up....

https://twitter.com/Rubberbandits/status/889502414897807360


This is Mark Regev justifying the use of chemical weapons in Gaza in '09 on Channel 4 with Jon Snow,
complete with sub titles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMd_js_oQAk&pbjreload=10
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« Reply #3076 on: April 10, 2018, 11:20:17 PM »
This story is priceless.........


Israel Said It Barred Entry to Dublin's Mayor – but He Got in Because They Misspelled His Name

Israel announced on Tuesday that it had barred Dublin Lord Mayor Mícheál Mac Donncha from entering the country - while he was already in the West Bank city of Ramallah and had flown to Tel Aviv.

The announcement, by both the Interior and the Strategic Affairs Ministries, said that Donncha would be denied entry to Israel over his ties to the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement.

The Strategic Affairs Ministry, in charge of fighting delegitimation of Israel, said in the statement that the reason for the decision was Donncha's ties with the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which promotes boycotts of Israeli companies and international companies who work in Israel.


According to the ministry, the mayor promoted the IPSC's ideas through the city council and publicly expressed support for them. Strategic Affairs Minister Gilad Erdan said that "the policy I set is clear: He who works consistently to boycott Israel will not enter here."

Minutes after Haaretz reported about the announcement, Donncha tweeted that he was already in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

The Interior Ministry confirmed to Haaretz that Donncha had entered the country, initially saying that he must have arrived before the ministry's instruction was delivered.

Later the Interior Ministry admitted that Donncha was able to enter Israel due to the fact that his name was misspelled. A spokesman for Interior Ministry Arye Dery admitted that "we made a mistake at the border crossing."

A source familiar with the details blamed the Strategic Affairs Ministry, saying that the reason for the mishap was that it misspelled Donncha name.

In January, Israel summoned the Irish ambassador in Israel for clarification and to express dissatisfaction in light of a proposed bill in Ireland's national parliament calling for a boycott of Israeli settlements.

Ambassador Alison Kelly said then that her government opposed the legislation, which was subsequently postponed.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-bars-entry-of-dublin-s-mayor-over-bds-ties-1.5990796
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« Reply #3077 on: April 11, 2018, 02:20:33 AM »
This story is priceless.........


Israel Said It Barred Entry to Dublin's Mayor – but He Got in Because They Misspelled His Name

Israel announced on Tuesday that it had barred Dublin Lord Mayor Mícheál Mac Donncha from entering the country - while he was already in the West Bank city of Ramallah and had flown to Tel Aviv.

The announcement, by both the Interior and the Strategic Affairs Ministries, said that Donncha would be denied entry to Israel over his ties to the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement.

The Strategic Affairs Ministry, in charge of fighting delegitimation of Israel, said in the statement that the reason for the decision was Donncha's ties with the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which promotes boycotts of Israeli companies and international companies who work in Israel.


According to the ministry, the mayor promoted the IPSC's ideas through the city council and publicly expressed support for them. Strategic Affairs Minister Gilad Erdan said that "the policy I set is clear: He who works consistently to boycott Israel will not enter here."

Minutes after Haaretz reported about the announcement, Donncha tweeted that he was already in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

The Interior Ministry confirmed to Haaretz that Donncha had entered the country, initially saying that he must have arrived before the ministry's instruction was delivered.

Later the Interior Ministry admitted that Donncha was able to enter Israel due to the fact that his name was misspelled. A spokesman for Interior Ministry Arye Dery admitted that "we made a mistake at the border crossing."

A source familiar with the details blamed the Strategic Affairs Ministry, saying that the reason for the mishap was that it misspelled Donncha name.

In January, Israel summoned the Irish ambassador in Israel for clarification and to express dissatisfaction in light of a proposed bill in Ireland's national parliament calling for a boycott of Israeli settlements.

Ambassador Alison Kelly said then that her government opposed the legislation, which was subsequently postponed.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-bars-entry-of-dublin-s-mayor-over-bds-ties-1.5990796
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« Reply #3078 on: April 11, 2018, 07:16:37 PM »
Israel is a huge problem for ordinary Jews in Europe

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/07/howard-jacobson-jews-know-what-antisemitism-is-and-what-it-isnt-to-invent-it-would-be-a-sacrilege

But then came Israel. Or rather, as Israel had been there throughout our childhoods, the systematic anathematising of Israel to the point where it became an abomination.

The Israel-loathing that began to consume the left altered my sense of being Jewish in this country

If I think back to moments of Jew-related tension I’ve experienced in the second half of my life, they have almost all been to do with Israel. 


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/11/traditional-antisemitism-is-back-global-study-finds

The report says: “The rise of leftist antisemitism that supports radical Muslim anti-Israeli attitudes expressed in antisemitic terms such as in the BDS [boycott, divestment and sanctions] and Antifa [militant anti-fascist] movements, and certainly in the UK Labour party led by Jeremy Corbyn.” Many Jews in the UK were “losing their traditional political home” as a result of feeling betrayed by Labour, it adds.

Here is the problem

https://youtu.be/lzt3CaXiMEQ
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« Reply #3079 on: April 12, 2018, 10:50:50 PM »
Netanyahu Rips Into Dublin Lord Mayor: 'You Should Be Ashamed of Yourself'

Israel's Foreign Ministry summoned Ireland's Ambassador to Israel Alison Kelly to its office on Thursday after Dublin's lord mayor participated in a conference in the West Bank city of Ramallah. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ripped into him for the event.

On his official Facebook page, Netanyahu wrote "I have one message for the mayor: You should be ashamed of yourself," adding "evidence published" in his book on the Mufti's collaboration with the Nazis during the Holocaust, in reference to images of Haj Amin al-Husseini which were reportedly featured at the West Bank conference.

Israel's anger stemmed from an April decision by the Irish city to support the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement and Donncha support for calls to expell Israel's ambassador to Ireland.

The Foreign Ministry claimed the ambassador was summoned over Dublin Lord Mayor Mícheál Mac Donncha participation in the conference as well as what it described as two hostile decisions against Israel this week by the Dublin city council.

The deputy director of the Foreign Ministry's Europe department Rodica Radian-Gordon expressed her "astonishment and deep disappointment" that the mayor chose to participate in a "blatantly anti-Israel event." She added that this was "especially disturbing" because this week Israel commemorates Holocaust Remembrance Day.

"The Israeli government expects an official public response from Ireland with regard to the conduct of both the Dublin city council and the Dublin mayor,  who are waging a campaign of discrimination and hatred against the State of Israel," she added.

On Tuesday, the Dublin mayor was barred from entering the county while he was already in Ramallah after having flown in through Tel Aviv.

The Interior Ministry later admitted Mac Donncha had entered Israel due to a typo. The announcement, by both the interior and the strategic affairs ministries, said Mac Donncha would be denied entry to Israel over his ties to BDS.

In January, Israel summoned the Irish ambassador in Israel for clarification and to express dissatisfaction in light of a proposed bill in Ireland's national parliament calling for a boycott of Israeli settlements.

Ambassador Kelly said then that her government opposed the legislation, which was subsequently postponed


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-summons-irish-ambassador-for-dublin-mayor-s-visit-to-ramallah-1.5994417
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« Reply #3080 on: April 12, 2018, 11:23:08 PM »
65 people travelling to the same conference were denied entry 

Jerusalem Conference guests denied entry by Israel

At least 65 foreign invitees blocked from participating in meeting in Ramallah organised by the Palestinian Authority.

'There is no Palestine'

Ami Mehl, Israeli ambassador to Ghana, told Ghana's Starr News radio that Mubarak's claims of being denied entry for no reason were "just not true".

"He came without a visa to the border, [and] was asked to wait," Mehl told radio host Naa Dedei Tettey.

"I was in the middle of a conversation with Israeli authorities about his case and when I was notified he had decided to turn back and go back to his hotel in Jordan."

When Tettey mentioned that Mubarak said he had Israeli clearance to visit the West Bank, Mehl said that was a "complete lie".

Mehl then lost his cool after Tettey quoted Mubarak as saying he had permission from Israel to enter the OPT (Occupied Palestinian Territories).

"If you want to talk to me, you will use the terminology I use," he shouted. "There is no OPT; there is no Palestine, there was never a Palestine. It is Israel."

"It's bullsh**, it's propaganda," the Israeli ambassador went on. "[Mubarak] came to Israel without a visa. He is a propaganda machine for the Palestinians, so we do not take him seriously".

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/jerusalem-conference-guests-denied-entry-israel-180412141116195.html
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Re: The Palestine thread
« Reply #3081 on: April 13, 2018, 12:17:18 AM »
You can't say boo to the rogue State it seems.
They're some shower of narrow minded cnuts.
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« Reply #3082 on: April 13, 2018, 07:43:24 AM »
You can't say boo to the rogue State it seems.
They're some shower of narrow minded cnuts.
Israel only got going in 1948. They had to invent their own national logic.  Point number one is that there is no such thing as a Palestinian.
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Re: The Palestine thread
« Reply #3083 on: April 13, 2018, 10:32:37 PM »
Noa Landau
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Israeli Immigration Authority releases a video of @LordMayorDublin leaving the country this morning & signing a form prohibiting him from returning without permission (which he will probably never receive). And now they have his real name...

https://mobile.twitter.com/noa_landau/status/984699938398289920/video/1

Form he signed


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« Reply #3085 on: April 16, 2018, 04:04:41 PM »
https://www.ncronline.org/news/politics/ncr-today/support-israel-continues-see-widening-partisan-divide

National Catholic Reporter
“Support for Israel continues to see a widening, partisan divide”
Mar 23, 2018 by Ra’fat Al-Dajani

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“The results of a recent Pew Research Center poll have revealed some unexpected findings when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, namely a widening partisan divide on the question of whether Americans sympathize more with Israelis or Palestinians on the issue of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a partisan divide that is the widest at any point since 1978.

“Support for Israel in the broad sense, or as a strategic asset, remains very strong, with the percentage of Republicans, since 2001, sympathizing more with Israel than the Palestinians increasing 29 percentage points, from 50 percent to 79 percent. It is with Democrats and Independents, however, that the drop in sympathy for Israel has been precipitous.

“Among Democrats in general, only 27 percent said they sympathized more with Israel, reflecting a dramatic drop in sympathy for Israel of 11 points among Democrats since 2001, from 38 percent to 27 percent.

“Some other numbers worth examining can be found when support among Democrats is broken down. While moderate and conservative Democrats continue to sympathize more with Israel (35 percent) than the Palestinians (17 percent), that number has dropped 18 points since 2016, from 53 percent to its current 35 percent. The share of liberal Democrats who sympathize more with Israel than the Palestinians has also declined 14 points since 2016, from 33 percent to 19 percent.

“Pro-Israeli leaders and groups have picked up on the danger of sympathy and support for Israel becoming one more point of sharp partisan divide in the increasing, partisan polarization under President Trump, both in Congress and among the American public.

“Nowhere have the alarm bells begun to ring louder on this issue than at the powerful pro-Israel lobbying group, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, where there has been a growing recognition that navigating through the shoals of an ever more polarized political landscape is the new challenge for an organization that has always prioritized bipartisanship.

“AIPAC’s leadership recognizes that the pendulum of American politics swings both ways, and that Israel, as an issue, would suffer from being kicked around as a political football. It could well end up becoming one as politically divisive and as politicized as abortion or gun control.”

“The Trump presidency has only made this navigation more perilous. On the one hand, Trump has delivered on policies on AIPAC’s agenda, such as moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem; pushing Congress to scrap or toughen up the Iran nuclear deal; cutting funds to the Palestinians; and speaking out forcefully against U.N. members who diverge from the U.S. on its Israel policy.”

“The unintended consequence for AIPAC of Trump’s unabashed support has been the alienation of some Jewish Democrats who once felt at home with the lobby group. A former AIPAC board member described it this way: ‘I feel the right has taken over the organization and there is no respect for other opinions … It’s not a place for me anymore.'”
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Re: The Palestine thread
« Reply #3086 on: May 14, 2018, 05:19:44 PM »
Absolutely sickening what's gone on in Paletsine today. The US open up their embassy in Jerusalem and the IDF shoot over 2,000 people killing 50 and counting.

Peace is as far away as it's ever been in that region!!

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« Reply #3087 on: May 14, 2018, 05:27:20 PM »
Absolutely sickening what's gone on in Paletsine today. The US open up their embassy in Jerusalem and the IDF shoot over 2,000 people killing 50 and counting.

Peace is as far away as it's ever been in that region!!
Trump and Netanyahu are well matched.

Two corrupt, lying, far right, imperialist scumbags.

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« Reply #3088 on: May 14, 2018, 07:18:50 PM »
As Israel has moved to the right, so too has its US-based lobbying arm. Stands to reason that support for Israel will fall among Democrats.

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« Reply #3089 on: May 14, 2018, 07:24:54 PM »
Absolutely sickening what's gone on in Paletsine today. The US open up their embassy in Jerusalem and the IDF shoot over 2,000 people killing 50 and counting.

Peace is as far away as it's ever been in that region!!
The Irish Tïmes had an article where some Jew claimed the embassy move was necessary for peace 
Israel is a lost cause. . So is Judaism.
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