National Games Development Centre

[From the Bunker]

The next 5 Leinsters is being optimistic, I can't see anyone challenging in the next 10. Only Kildare have been competitive at underage level and there isn't a hope of that transferring to senior level with the gap in resources. Cian O'Neill would need to be the greatest manager in the history of the GAA to manage Kildare to win a Leinster.

Laughed when i seen that! Yeah, pretty depressing stuff if you are county in the Leinster Championship. County Reps in the Leinster council have to get their act together as to looking for home venues or at least neutral venues for Championship games. To much plámásing to the Dubs for the last decade!

[INDIANA]

The next 5 Leinsters is being optimistic, I can't see anyone challenging in the next 10. Only Kildare have been competitive at underage level and there isn't a hope of that transferring to senior level with the gap in resources. Cian O'Neill would need to be the greatest manager in the history of the GAA to manage Kildare to win a Leinster.

All self inflicted. You had the population, the club base and the money and you pissed it all away

But blame us. It's easier. It's typically your average Irish-man's response to most things

That's why Ireland isn't a world leader in anything except drinking Guiness

[From the Bunker]

The next 5 Leinsters is being optimistic, I can't see anyone challenging in the next 10. Only Kildare have been competitive at underage level and there isn't a hope of that transferring to senior level with the gap in resources. Cian O'Neill would need to be the greatest manager in the history of the GAA to manage Kildare to win a Leinster.

All self inflicted. You had the population, the club base and the money and you pissed it all away

But blame us. It's easier. It's typically your average Irish-man's response to most things

That's why Ireland isn't a world leader in anything except drinking Guiness

Do you think Indiana that they (Kildare) spent more in past seasons than you are spending now? What do you think should be (should have been) the ceiling for the amount of money a county like Kildare should spend?

[INDIANA]

The next 5 Leinsters is being optimistic, I can't see anyone challenging in the next 10. Only Kildare have been competitive at underage level and there isn't a hope of that transferring to senior level with the gap in resources. Cian O'Neill would need to be the greatest manager in the history of the GAA to manage Kildare to win a Leinster.

All self inflicted. You had the population, the club base and the money and you pissed it all away

But blame us. It's easier. It's typically your average Irish-man's response to most things

That's why Ireland isn't a world leader in anything except drinking Guiness

Do you think Indiana that they (Kildare) spent more in past seasons than you are spending now?

It's our money.

Generated by us- so we'll spend it any bloody way we like

The difference is we spend it well

We don't spend it on waste of time managers

[From the Bunker]

The next 5 Leinsters is being optimistic, I can't see anyone challenging in the next 10. Only Kildare have been competitive at underage level and there isn't a hope of that transferring to senior level with the gap in resources. Cian O'Neill would need to be the greatest manager in the history of the GAA to manage Kildare to win a Leinster.

All self inflicted. You had the population, the club base and the money and you pissed it all away

But blame us. It's easier. It's typically your average Irish-man's response to most things

That's why Ireland isn't a world leader in anything except drinking Guiness

Do you think Indiana that they (Kildare) spent more in past seasons than you are spending now?

It's our money.

Generated by us- so we'll spend it any bloody way we like

The difference is we spend it well

We don't spend it on waste of time managers

What do you think should be (should have been) the ceiling for the amount of money a county like Kildare should spend?

[INDIANA]

The next 5 Leinsters is being optimistic, I can't see anyone challenging in the next 10. Only Kildare have been competitive at underage level and there isn't a hope of that transferring to senior level with the gap in resources. Cian O'Neill would need to be the greatest manager in the history of the GAA to manage Kildare to win a Leinster.

All self inflicted. You had the population, the club base and the money and you pissed it all away

But blame us. It's easier. It's typically your average Irish-man's response to most things

That's why Ireland isn't a world leader in anything except drinking Guiness

Do you think Indiana that they (Kildare) spent more in past seasons than you are spending now?

It's our money.

Generated by us- so we'll spend it any bloody way we like

The difference is we spend it well

We don't spend it on waste of time managers

What do you think should be (should have been) the ceiling for the amount of money a county like Kildare should spend?

Kildare have a serious problem in getting the correct expertise in their management teams. They have the money, population and a top class development structure as good as anything we have.
Cian O Neill is a step in the right direction. They were 50% better then us man to man last Saturday in the u21 leinster final but they wet their pants when they saw the finishing line. That's the weakest Dublin u21 football team for about 10 years

that's not money - that's balls.And it's been a problem in Kildare football since the 50's.

But spin the money line - it certainly suits Kildare.

[From the Bunker]

The next 5 Leinsters is being optimistic, I can't see anyone challenging in the next 10. Only Kildare have been competitive at underage level and there isn't a hope of that transferring to senior level with the gap in resources. Cian O'Neill would need to be the greatest manager in the history of the GAA to manage Kildare to win a Leinster.

All self inflicted. You had the population, the club base and the money and you pissed it all away

But blame us. It's easier. It's typically your average Irish-man's response to most things

That's why Ireland isn't a world leader in anything except drinking Guiness

Do you think Indiana that they (Kildare) spent more in past seasons than you are spending now?

It's our money.

Generated by us- so we'll spend it any bloody way we like

The difference is we spend it well

We don't spend it on waste of time managers

What do you think should be (should have been) the ceiling for the amount of money a county like Kildare should spend?

Kildare have a serious problem in getting the correct expertise in their management teams. They have the money, population and a top class development structure as good as anything we have.
Cian O Neill is a step in the right direction. They were 50% better then us man to man last Saturday in the u21 leinster final but they wet their pants when they saw the finishing line. That's the weakest Dublin u21 football team for about 10 years

that's not money - that's balls.And it's been a problem in Kildare football since the 50's.

But spin the money line - it certainly suits Kildare.

Are you saying they are in the same league as yourselves Money wise and infrastructure? If they are, they sure are wasting a lot of money and should be reprimanded by the GAA. Sorry I never knew the wealth of their coffers. They are a disgrace!

[DuffleKing]

Dublin spend an exponentially larger amount of money than any county in Ireland on developing young players. As a result of GAA investment because it's the population centre, the number of primary school coaches, ft club coaches and development staff and facilities for all year round coaching dwarfs the rest of the country.

A middle of the road Dublin club will typically have as many full time coaches as most counties. That long term investment has produced a conveyor belt of well coached players from most clubs with developed skill sets, great habits and years ahead of their competitors athletically. If you think Dublin generated all of the resources for that heavy and repeated investment then you are deluded or wilfully ignoring fact. The GAA were pouring money into coaching in Dublin long before any recent commercial enterprises and it is the investment of ten years ago and more you are looking at the fruits of now.

Most counties are in a position of hoarding every player that comes through to 15 with decent skill set and aptitude for the game. They then go about trying to build in athletic development, mental skills, work rate, etc. In the hope of bringing as many as possible through. Dublin have an embarrassment of options at development squad level. If a player lacks in areas a or b at that stage, well the next candidate will probably have less gaps. That's the fruit of the sustained, quality and holistic coaching from fundamentals through to competitive levels and that costs a lot of money - repeatedly.

Of course the alternative explanation is that Dublin people are somehow innately superior and that coaches and administrators elsewhere are lazy and clueless. Both reasonable positions to hold...

[From the Bunker]

Dublin spend an exponentially larger amount of money than any county in Ireland on developing young players. As a result of GAA investment because it's the population centre, the number of primary school coaches, ft club coaches and development staff and facilities for all year round coaching dwarfs the rest of the country.

A middle of the road Dublin club will typically have as many full time coaches as most counties. That long term investment has produced a conveyor belt of well coached players from most clubs with developed skill sets, great habits and years ahead of their competitors athletically. If you think Dublin generated all of the resources for that heavy and repeated investment then you are deluded or wilfully ignoring fact. The GAA were pouring money into coaching in Dublin long before any recent commercial enterprises and it is the investment of ten years ago and more you are looking at the fruits of now.

Most counties are in a position of hoarding every player that comes through to 15 with decent skill set and aptitude for the game. They then go about trying to build in athletic development, mental skills, work rate, etc. In the hope of bringing as many as possible through. Dublin have an embarrassment of options at development squad level. If a player lacks in areas a or b at that stage, well the next candidate will probably have less gaps. That's the fruit of the sustained, quality and holistic coaching from fundamentals through to competitive levels and that costs a lot of money - repeatedly.

Of course the alternative explanation is that Dublin people are somehow innately superior and that coaches and administrators elsewhere are lazy and clueless. Both reasonable positions to hold...

You have to admit all this money is well spent! Gaelic football is more popular in Dublin that it has ever been before. Dublin are winning before and after them everybody is happy. Dublin are the main financiers of the GAA. So it is important they are reimbursed and helped to grow bigger?

[rrhf]

Are we going to permanently imbalance the gaa at club and county level, are we developing 1 county to win everything. Are we happy with this position? This seems out of control and very poorly managed. The gaa model is being screwed if the rumours of county minors getting delivered fruit salads is true.

[From the Bunker]

Are we going to permanently imbalance the gaa at club and county level, are we developing 1 county to win everything. Are we happy with this position? This seems out of control and very poorly managed. The gaa model is being screwed if the rumours of county minors getting delivered fruit salads is true.

Yes, the Gaa went down a certain road 10+ years ago. There is no turning back! Without the losses to Soccer and Rugby. The various county boards around sat on their hands and let it happen without a whisper.

[Dinny Breen]

Another win for Corporate GAA today.

[trileacman]

Another win for Corporate GAA today.

Yep. Sad to see.

[INDIANA]

Are we going to permanently imbalance the gaa at club and county level, are we developing 1 county to win everything. Are we happy with this position? This seems out of control and very poorly managed. The gaa model is being screwed if the rumours of county minors getting delivered fruit salads is true.

We developed ourselves. Contrary to popular opinion. Northern Ireland didn't invent Gaelic Football.

We were winning All Irelands long before you ever came along sunshine.

Gaelic Football didn't begin in 2002. The status quo is what's it's always has been. Dublin and Kerry are the best two counties in Gaelic Football in the history of the association and always will be.

You can cut money- cut funding- give tyrone millions (like they got off the UK Govt)- those two counties will still be the best

[manfromdelmonte]

I hope counties get access to that pitch which is the exact replica of Croke Park.