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It looked like more than minimal contact from where i was standing, if you hit someone on helmet or face guard you are asking for trouble.

Whelan went off for a while for treatment, & as NAH said above we would have been looking for a red the other way about. Down to 14 obviously didn't help but very poor in second half and probably expended a lot of energy in the first half 

How many times in both games yesterday did someone reach in and flick for the ball and catch the opponent accidently on the face guard or helmet.

I can think of at least 3 instances off the top of my head and no red cards.

Another weekend with probably more questions than answers for a lot of the teams.

Tipp need a serious rethink but even at that, I'm not seeing any young talent bursting through their current squad.

As for Davy, had the Clare selector stayed out it there would have been nothing too it. He had no need to be there at that point any way, must be some serious bad blood between the backroom teams in general.

What was the sending off for? Wasnt at the game. Seemed to fall apart after it

From what I saw it was minimal contact, we get refereed in such a different way to the other teams.

Just the three  

You's boys are touchy feckers all the same

I think Liverpool had a fantastic year and will miss big Klopp's drive

Utd can't keep 'clearing' out players every year and expect consistency

They are the media's plaything at the minute after having years of dominance they are languishing below levels they would have been at before, its as if they have forgotten Utd were relegated in the 70's, but of course football only started in the PL years 92

No quick fix, could be another 10 years at this rate, I'd be happy to have the roof fixed first 

Doesn't help that many of clubs ex players are now pundits, so the focus always gets shifted back to them regardless of the storyline at the time.

There is a clear out required and a bit of reset with some control but again that isn't a one window kind of fix.

[I'm an old cúnt who knows nothing]

right lads (+lasses) a bit of craic who's going to win this weekend but more importantly why:

st johns v ballycran
c'dall v p'ferry
enda's v dunloy
b'galget v rossa
b'castle v loughguile

Ours is easy, Rossa by some margin.

We're dire at the minute.

Anything coming through JC?

We do have a smattering of good underage hurlers coming through but its too early to tell, but any young lads thrown into that team will struggle, no real leadership in there and too many of the more seasoned lads passing the buck and may well be told to fúck off next year when we're in Div2 and start afresh.

Some of them seem to think you don't need to tackle in hurling anymore, but sure I'm an old cúnt who knows nothing.

Plenty of them about 

[but as we've seen, continental managers to the PL are much riskier]

I don't think Southgate is  any big shakes , but he'd be better than ETH. You might see somewhat  safety first style football,  but he has better  knowledge of the PL than ETH did (as that clearly shows ), and I reckon he'd  steady the ship  and tighten things up at least.

I'm not  clued into the European leagues so I don't know  who else  would be a  good fit at united ( other than Ancelotti, perhaps),  but as we've seen, continental managers  to the PL are much riskier as  the game in Spain/Italy is  different. So in that respect, Southgate would  probably be the best of a mediocre bunch of  british-style managers ,   at this stage

Is that true? 14 of the 20 PL managers are foreign, 13 of them European.

What less risky English appointments have there been? Potter?

Could never understand that move by Potter, moving from one of the most stable structures in the premier league to one of the biggest basket cases. Don't think it made him a bad manager but it has definitely hurt him, he will need his next job to be a success to get back to that level.

ETH got a good reception from the OT fans last night after the game, don't think there is any real desire to oust him. That may change after the Cup Final or maybe it is just an acceptance of the situation the squad are in at the moment.

Varanne seemed genuinely sad to be leaving, Martial on the other hand looked like he couldnt get off the pitch quick enough.

Wasnt at the game so relying on a good source

Cargin also scored a few late goals when the game was dead to put a gloss on the scoreline??

Still awaiting this referee's report 

right lads (+lasses) a bit of craic who's going to win this weekend but more importantly why:

st johns v ballycran
c'dall v p'ferry
enda's v dunloy
b'galget v rossa
b'castle v loughguile

Ours is easy, Rossa by some margin.

We're dire at the minute.

Anything coming through JC?

Take it for what it is, an end of season open game that United came out on the right side of for once.

I've said it before on here, I think they need a season out of Europe completely, but one sure thing is, that they don't need to be competing in the conference league.

If by some miracle they happen to win the cup they at least they would get into the Europa which probably would help with PSR and player transfers. But that Thursday Sunday schedule is a joke over the season.

I think it's the guy O Callaghan who has all saints playing the way they are,plus the older players in the squad seem to have a big say behind the scenes regarding the set up,not to many listen to what the Baker shouts which is mostly abuse

Are they allegedly playing well? I saw them tonight, fist passing the ball to eachother along the midfield line back and forward, barely ever kicking the ball and conceding every single kickout. If this is playing well I give up.

If that's the criteria you have basically described every football team in the county/ country.

Had a look around but couldn't find a specific topic on this. The pace of change is absolutely absurd. Chat-GPT 4o announced this week and then Google come out with this. Terrifying/fascinating.

https://x.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/1790433540548558853

What if anything is anyone using these for? thinking more in the work setting

"tell me is that work related what NAG1 is doing on his computer...."

 

Had a look around but couldn't find a specific topic on this. The pace of change is absolutely absurd. Chat-GPT 4o announced this week and then Google come out with this. Terrifying/fascinating.

https://x.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/1790433540548558853

What if anything is anyone using these for? thinking more in the work setting

ffs please not Southgate, he has wasted England best chance to win something over the last few tournaments. The English seem blinded to his incompetence. He speaks well to the media and is a likeable guy but is tactically brain dead

The latest I've seen is Thomas Frank being linked. Interesting one, has the EPL experience and seems to be able to set a team up.

That being said I'm not sure they will move on ETH simply due to the lack of quality options out there at the moment.

John Fury really is an embarrassing clown. Wasn't throwing many heads at the big fellas.

Is that the big lad who bust his own head open head butting the wee lad who didn't flinch?

Wasn't sure what was going on there!

He looks like he's been on the marching powder from what I saw of the incident.

This used to be a singing contest?