Cluiche Ceannais Laighean 2017, Cill Dara v Áth Cliath

[Zulu]

Kildare have shown enough to suggest they'll trouble a lot of teams if they have their heads right.

The thing is that the other teams that they'll trouble are not the PROBLEM.  You just don't get it!

So, should we scrap IC football altogether? Kerry at least are getting on with the business of beating Dublin.

[trileacman]

The gaa have made a pure cnut of the football championship with the money they've pumped into Dublin. It's not reached such a low we've to celebrate Kildare getting within 9 points of Dublin. A f**king joke.

[BluestackBoy]

Watching Brolly licking up to Gooch is equal parts funny/embarassing.

[Wildweasel74]

Its back to the late 70`s  and 80`s again with 2 team ahead of the bunch ( well maybe 4, Offaly and Cork were very good back then too but keeping getting beat by the big two,  Dublin well ahead of the rest, No.2 maybe Kerry, maybe Tyrone, Mayo and Donegal have slipped off abit, kerry pass Dublin in the next few years with 3 good minor teams, no lads of which have featured at senior level which is strange given the Kerry back line wouldn't not be that great

[BallyroanAbu]

I think Kildare looked decent, I suppose the first trickles of improvement.

[Jinxy]

2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017

That list would make for even more grim reading if it wasn't for our heroics in 2010.

Lets not go there! Not one of those years to be proud of!

[From the Bunker]

Kildare have shown enough to suggest they'll trouble a lot of teams if they have their heads right.

The thing is that the other teams that they'll trouble are not the PROBLEM.  You just don't get it!

So, should we scrap IC football altogether? Kerry at least are getting on with the business of beating Dublin.

We are almost there in Leinster (as in scrapping IC football).  I mean celebrating a 9 point loss is now looked at as progress?

[BluestackBoy]

The gaa have made a pure cnut of the football championship with the money they've pumped into Dublin. It's not reached such a low we've to celebrate Kildare getting within 9 points of Dublin. A f**king joke.

This present Dublin team has little to do with money. They are a bunch of hungry, talented, athletic footballers who are expertly managed by one of the greatest coaches the game has ever seen.

[seafoid]

It doesn't matter how good your engine is if you don't have a burst of pace.
Kildare are very fit, but it's not the type of fitness Dublin have and it's probably not the type of fitness you can train as it is largely based on innate atheltic ability.
All of Dublin's players around the middle third are like 800m runners.
They'll run all day, but they have a very high cruising speed and a burst of pace too.
Compared to them, Kildare are more like 1500m runners.
They'll run all day too against a team like Meath, but against Dublin they don't have the same high cruising speed and they don't have the same burst of pace.
This means they are constantly working at a higher relative capacity than their opponents, just to keep their head above water.
Hard to keep that up for a whole game.

Kildare have been away from the big table for 8 years. Very few teams could start performing on their first day back.  It might take a while but they should be able for it at some stage down the road.

[Zulu]

Kildare have shown enough to suggest they'll trouble a lot of teams if they have their heads right.

The thing is that the other teams that they'll trouble are not the PROBLEM.  You just don't get it!

So, should we scrap IC football altogether? Kerry at least are getting on with the business of beating Dublin.

We are almost there in Leinster (as in scrapping IC football).  I mean celebrating a 9 point loss is now looked at as progress?

There's a lot of good games to look forward to and Kerry can certainly beat Dublin while Mayo would have done so already with a bit more quality in the forwards. There's plenty to like about the current IC scene IMO.

[Wildweasel74]

Gavin took over a team already build for him which had already won an all-Ireland, in between them winning 3 u-21 all-ireland and alot of minor leinster titles, its not as if he hasn't a pick of players any county be jealous off. They are a great team though.

[From the Bunker]

Kildare have shown enough to suggest they'll trouble a lot of teams if they have their heads right.

The thing is that the other teams that they'll trouble are not the PROBLEM.  You just don't get it!

So, should we scrap IC football altogether? Kerry at least are getting on with the business of beating Dublin.

We are almost there in Leinster (as in scrapping IC football).  I mean celebrating a 9 point loss is now looked at as progress?

There's a lot of good games to look forward to and Kerry can certainly beat Dublin while Mayo would have done so already with a bit more quality in the forwards. There's plenty to like about the current IC scene IMO.

[Zulu]

Dublin beaten in the league final by Kerry and victors over Mayo, after a replay, by one point. Yean that's straw clutching alright. But feel free to not watch the rest of the championship if you feel it's a foregone conclusion.

[seafoid]

Kildare have shown enough to suggest they'll trouble a lot of teams if they have their heads right.

The thing is that the other teams that they'll trouble are not the PROBLEM.  You just don't get it!

So, should we scrap IC football altogether? Kerry at least are getting on with the business of beating Dublin.

We are almost there in Leinster (as in scrapping IC football).  I mean celebrating a 9 point loss is now looked at as progress?

RTÉ :

"It's just the second time in 15 Leinster championship games under Jim Gavin that Dublin haven't won by at least 10 points so Kildare can take some positives from the defeat."

Maybe Leinster ex Dubs is already a B competition

[Lar Naparka]

The gaa have made a pure cnut of the football championship with the money they've pumped into Dublin. It's not reached such a low we've to celebrate Kildare getting within 9 points of Dublin. A f**king joke.

This present Dublin team has little to do with money. They are a bunch of hungry, talented, athletic footballers who are expertly managed by one of the greatest coaches the game has ever seen.

There's a subtle difference between saying that the present Dublin team has little to do with money and saying that money has had little to do with their unprecedented success of late.
Are you sure you mean what you said?