R2 Qualifier Tyrone v Armagh

[illdecide]

How much is the fine?

The Armagh lads certainly are playing the cute hoor card very well immediately after the game yesterday.

Fuzzman seriously without acting the soft bollix how can anyone fancy Armagh next week? We just got beat yesterday and have 6 days to prepare to play a team who not only has had the measure of us but to play them in their own back yard....Micky Harte will know too that double up J Clarke (what every other team do) then our scoring threat is halved. I know Tyrone have dropped a bit in class but should have more than enough in their locker at home to beat Armagh.

[Zip Code]

illdecide - he knows rightly Tyrone will beat Armagh, best let him get on getting off pretending Tyrone are somehow up against it.

[Fuzzman]

As a matter of interest do you miss the aul rivalry with Tyrone or are ye glad to be rid of it?

I saw Dermot Earley was bringing it up last night and said how we re-invented football back in 2002-3

Getting in yer excuses early I see Armaghniac.
Yis all seemed quite hopeful of beating Monaghan so how come the sudden downer?
I'd say there's a lot of lads in Tyrone would be happier to get put out now and get back to club football rather than wait to this time next month.

I wish that's all it took to get me off.

Giants collided at the Athletic Grounds and we got one almighty thud and one great game of football. But Ewan MacKenna saw that it was old dogs for a very hard road.


Full-time: Armagh 1-13 Tyrone 0-19

It was fast and frantic with Armagh's next generation showing well, but in the end some old head's got the better of them. Stephen O'Neill, Martin Penrose, Colm Cavanagh and Joe McMahon rose to a serious challenge and after conceding an early goal and after conceding the lead in the final minutes, Tyrone calmly regrouped and showed serious composure. For them, Donegal await. For Armagh, the qualifiers await although despite defeat, if they can repeat that intensity and hunger, they may well be the best team in those qualifiers thus far.

15.56 – Throw-in moments away at a colourful and packed Athletics Ground so let's get straight to it and here are the teams..

Armagh: P McEvoy; A Mallon, B Donaghy, D McKenna; A Kernan, C McKeever, F Moriarty; K Toner, M Mackin; A Forker, K Dyas, A Duffy; J Clarke, B Mallon, C Rafferty.

Tyrone: P McConnell; A McCrory, Justin McMahon, D Carlin; C McCarron, C Gormley, S O'Neill; Joe McMahon, C Cavanagh; R McNabb, M Donnelly, P Harte; M Penrose, S O'Neill, O Mulligan.

Referee: J McQuillan (Cavan).

15.58 – Huge game as Tyrone don't want to follow Kerry into the qualifiers and into the category of a side that is past it. We don't think so, although this is a hard place to beat Armagh and the home side are hugely unpredictable. But there's a huge weight on the shoulders of Jamie Clarke, we wonder will they get him enough ball and we wonder if they can contain Peter Harte at wing-forward and a dangerous looking inside forward line of Mulligan, O'Neill and Penrose. The national anthem rings out and there's an empty seat/standing position in the house.

16.01 – 1 minute, Armagh 0-1 Tyrone 0-0: Brian Mallon fouled and scores the free himself. Refreshing to see a stadium packed for an early championship Sunday. Meanwhile Finian Moriarty on Peter Harte and  Aidan McCrory on Jamie Clarke in two of the key match-ups.

16.02 – 2 mins, Armagh 0-1 Tyrone 0-1: Fast and frenetic as Joe McMahon hits a huge free over.  In tactical news, Martin Penrose has dropped deep in the hope of isolating Stephen O'Neill and Owen Mulligan inside.

16.05 – 6 minutes, Armagh 0-1 Tyrone 0-2: Brian Mallon has started really well and only a great save denies him a goal as Justin McMahon mops the ball off the line. At the other end, Colm Cavanagh breaks from midfield and nails a great score. Huge intensity and pace, much more so than in the first game of the day. We are already licking our lips.

16.10 – 10 minutes, Armagh 1-1 Tyrone 0-3: There's no time to breath here. Aidan Forker on his championship debut goals. Great finish after the two corner-forwards set him up for a run through the middle. Brilliant from Armagh and that's pretty impressive from Tyrone as well as Colm Cavanagh sends the ball into the scattered clouds and it comes down over the bar.

16.12 – 13 minutes, Armagh 1-2 Tyrone 0-4: Good response from Tyrone as Owen Mulligan has them level but Jamie Clarke cancels it out. Tyrone look the more controlled but if Armagh can keep up this movement and pace, we are in for a serious game.

16.15 – 15 minutes, Armagh 1-2 Tyrone 0-6: He may look like a washed up Nascar driver, but he sure doesn't play like one. Mulligan with a dummy that has characterised his career and it buys him time and he lays off to Martin Penrose. Level. Peter Harte now with a good score. Tyrone ahead. Mulligan again with the assist.

16.18 – 18 minutes, Armagh 1-2 Tyrone 0-7: Now Peter Harte getting into it, Armagh can't handle his speed and he is fouled. Mulligan points. Ireland-Croatia will seem dull after this! Paul Duffy already in for Declan McKenna, says a lot about the trouble in the Armagh full-back line.

16.20 – 22 minutes, Armagh 1-3 Tyrone 0-8: Jamie Clarke is getting ball and he is surprisingly strong, holds off a challenge and we know he can finish. Best game of the year so far, by a massive distance and it doesn't let up. Stephen O'Neill sells a sweet dummy to Ciaran McKeever and then clips over on the right. Brilliant.

16.22 – 22 minutes, Armagh 1-4 Tyrone 0-8: Back up the other end, good passing and while Kevin Dyas has the hair of an Australian after his experience down under, he has the finish of a really good Gaelic footballer.

16.24 – 25 minutes, Armagh 1-5 Tyrone 0-8: If the Armagh full-back line is struggling, so is Aidan McCrory on Jamie Clarke as he gives away a free. Aidan Forker clips over. The half has flown and we are level once more.

16.27 – 28 minutes, Armagh 1-5 Tyrone 0-9: My fingers will be mere stubs if this keeps up. Colm Cavanagh has had a wonderful start, getting forward a lot. He sets up Mark Donnelly. Tyrone do look like a juggernaut and will be hard to stop. Armagh, as good as they've been, may need more goals to keep pace with this.

16.33 – 34 minutes, Armagh 1-5 Tyrone 0-10: Calmed down a little here with some ill-advised shooting although Martin Penrose does push Tyrone's lead to two. Elsewhere Seanie Johnston has kicked 0-5 on his debut for Kildare club St Kevin's in a Division Two match against Kilcock. We know you have your opinions on that. Meanwhile Tony Kernan about to replace Aaron Kernan whose hamstring looks to have gone. Huge blow.

16.37 – Half-time, Armagh 1-5 Tyrone 0-11:  Lovely point from Dermot Carlin stretches the lead and Armagh need to stop this three-zip run soon or this could get away from them. Brian Mallon can't as he misses a 45′ with the last kick of the half. Great game, but Armagh need to rally to keep it that way. Back after the break.

16.55 – 36 minutes, Armagh 1-5 Tyrone 0-12: Aaron Kernan doesn't emerge for the second half, and it's Gavin McParland who replaces him. He goes to the half-forward line and Kevin Dyas drops back. More bad news for Armagh, who need a good start as we get back underway. It's close to getting away from them, especially as Martin Penrose wins a free and kicks the free. Meanwhile Justin McMahon has gone off for Tyrone, Joe McMahon has gone to full-back.

16.57 – 38 minutes, Armagh 1-6 Tyrone 0-12: Here we go again, the second half starts like the first, in a blur of bodies and scores. Brian Mallon pulls a much-needed point back with an easy free.

17.02 – 43 minutes, Armagh 1-7 Tyrone 0-13: Penrose free and Clarke replies but while Armagh are helter-skelter, Tyrone are winning ball around the middle and looking solid going forward.

17.07 – 48 minutes, Armagh 1-9 Tyrone 0-13: That's a lovely score from substitute Gavin McParland and it lifts the home crowd. It lifts the home side too although they fail to capitalise on three promising attacks and Aidan Forker is forced to go off as well with injury as Johnny Hanratty replaces him. But there's McParland again.

17.10 – 51 minutes, Armagh 1-9 Tyrone 0-14: Big score for Tyrone. Stephen O'Neill beats Brendan Donaghy down the line and it costs Armagh a free. Easy for Martin Penrose from the deadball. All of Tyrone's three scores this half have come in that fashion.

17.15 – 55 minutes, Armagh 1-9 Tyrone 0-15: How big a moment will that be? Stephen O'Neill might have goaled but slipped, however he has the where with all to lay it back to Penrose who extends the gap. And how big will this moment be? Kevin Dyas was booked two minutes ago now  goes high on Peter Harte. It's another yellow. Crazy tackle. He's off.

17.17 – John Kingham comes on for Malachy Mackin who has been out of it in the second half. Kingham goes to full-forward though, change in style coming here. Meanwhile in Leinster, after an hour, Wexford 1-7 Longford 0-13.

17.19 – 60 minutes, Armagh 1-9 Tyrone 0-15: Tyrone have been the more assured team but still they aren't over the line, even as Jamie Clarke sends a free wide. However, if hope isn't turn into desperation on the part of the hosts and they don't have to go looking for a late goal, they need to get the next couple of points and relatively quick.

17.21 – 62 minutes, Armagh 1-10 Tyrone 0-15: There's one of them as the big lump that is John Kingham wins and free and Joe McMahon picks up a yellow. Easy free for Jamie Clarke. Game still on even if the crowd have gone flat.

17.22 – 63 minutes, Armagh 1-11 Tyrone 0-15: There's another one of them as Brian Mallon kicks a free from the hands. Now the crowd are awake.

17.25 – 66 minutes, Armagh 1-12 Tyrone 0-15: Gavin McParland has been immense on both sides of the ball. He turns over possession in one stretch of play, he wins a free in the next and in no small part down to him, his side have so much momentum. Owen Mulligan has gone, Niall McKenna takes his place. But all eyes are on Brian Mallon as he points from a free from the hands from outside of 45′.

17.28 – 69 minutes, Armagh 1-12 Tyrone 0-17: Peter Harte has been out of this game, wing-forward has been too peripheral for him but it's the sign of his class that he gets on the ball and kicks a score on the run. And now Mark Donnelly is fouled in front of the posts. What a telling couple of minutes as Penrose kicks the free. Game-winning, surely, and that took guts from Tyrone because they were on the ropes.

17.29 – 70 minutes, Armagh 1-12 Tyrone 0-17: We'll have four minutes of added time as Jamie Clarke kicks another wide, Armagh's 12th and that is costly. Still time though...

17.30 – 70+2 minutes, Armagh 1-13 Tyrone 0-18: Stephen O'Neill has been well marshaled this half but muscle memory there and a great score. Clarke responds, two to go, two between them...

17.33 – 70+4 minutes, Armagh 1-13 Tyrone 0-19: The old guard have really stood up here. Conor Gormley wins a free, clever from him, and Penrose pops it over. Tyrone won't be losing today but is there a goal and a draw in Armagh. Unlikely but there may be time for one last attack

17.34 – Full-time, Armagh 1-13 Tyrone 0-19: There's not, the referee blows it up from that kickout. Fine win and Tyrone will play Donegal in the Ulster semi-final.

[Zip Code]

Armagh's rivalry has always been with Down, it is only those who found football in 2003 think Armagh's rivalry was with Tyrone.

[tiempo]

which of the chosen 32 will get a game this week?

what is meant to be the limit on the number togged out?

it seems a bit mad to have more than an entire team togged out on the bench when you can only make what is it 5 subs?

sorry one last time, 32 lads togged out for a home qualifier v Louth!! Absolute mad-dog of the highest order.

Theres loads of things to get annoyed about, especially as a Tyrone fan, but togging out 32 players who have trained all year to give yourself as many options as possible is definitely not one of them.

Well when tyrone are getting fined every time for every player over 26 that is named it seems a bit pointless

Yes, but its not something i'd get too upset about.

At some point leading into a game I hope Mickey is thinking about what to do in scenario A, scenario B, etc. But I can't see how having 32 players togged out helps. At the end of the day someone in that team photo is 32nd pick, someone is 31st pick, someone is 30th pick, why have these lads involved if they aren't going to get on? I don't believe that they are all sat there with an equal chance of getting on, Mickey proved that in 08 by bringing Stevie O'Neill back for the All-Ireland Final.

While I'm on about Stevie, he was the only player who played that weekends club fixtures between the Monaghan & Lough game. Why could the likes of Peter Hughes or Dermy Carlin not got a game with their clubs as they aren't getting any with Tyrone currently despite togging out? Joe McMahon went from no football since last August/September to togging out v Down, to not playing for Omagh, then coming on v Louth without a game in 8 months. Meanwile players are wearing bras under their jerseys to monitor performance. I'm sorry but Darren McCurry doesn't need to wear a bra to kick points (if it makes him happy and he kicks more then I'm all for it!).

[johnneycool]

How many can you actually put on a teamsheet? It used to be 24, possibly 25 or 26 now, so all the other lads no matter if they're togged out or not won't get a run out.

[seafoid]

Armagh's rivalry has always been with Down, it is only those who found football in 2003 think Armagh's rivalry was with Tyrone.

How do Down see it? Seeing as Armagh won far less than them would they take it seriously ?

[inroundthesquare]

3pm on Sunday

[PatDaly]

http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/national-fixtures/gaa-football-all-ireland-senior-championship/

Sunday July 13th, 2014

GAA Football All Ireland Senior Championship 2014 Round 2B

3 00 PM
Tyrone vs. Armagh
Healy Park, Omagh 

Referee: TBC
Extra time playable

[sensethetone]

Armagh's rivalry has always been with Down, it is only those who found football in 2003 think Armagh's rivalry was with Tyrone.

I've worked with Armagh fans (Maghery/Milltown/Annaghmore, Armagh city, Keady, Granmore, Lurgan, Portadown) since the ninety's and they've always slated Tyrone more than ever worring about Down. There was alot off huffing done after the 2002 final, but in 2003 we got the Monday Tuesday off (no credit crunch then). Would have to admit the banter makes it all worth while. For this match I think everyone feels on both sides if either team wins in Omagh not much will be happening this year.

[macdanger2]

6 day turnaround makes this game awful difficult for Armagh, hard to see anything other than a Tyrone win

[EC Unique]

Armagh's rivalry has always been with Down, it is only those who found football in 2003 think Armagh's rivalry was with Tyrone.

In fairness Armagh and Down are at a similar level these days...

[Throw ball]

Armagh's rivalry has always been with Down, it is only those who found football in 2003 think Armagh's rivalry was with Tyrone.

In fairness Armagh and Down are at a similar level these days...

And Tyrone!

[Zip Code]

Armagh's rivalry has always been with Down, it is only those who found football in 2003 think Armagh's rivalry was with Tyrone.

In fairness Armagh and Down are at a similar level these days...

As are Tyrone - none of these teams will have many games left this summer.

[ONeill]

It's only now I can appreciate the Armagh games. Hated them at the time.

Hard to think which one was the most enjoyable. Maybe the McKenna Cup game in Casement when 90'000 turned up on a snowy January day.

Best memory - the '05 semi.
Worst memory - the '02 replay defeat

The '05 Ulster final defeat didn't bother me that much as you still thought Tyrone could win the AI.

Other memories - the Mugsy goal after about 10 seconds in '01. The NFL game in 2003 in Omagh. The drawn final in '05 when O'Neill tormented Bellew but the cuteness of McConville and McDonnell kept Armagh in it.