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A number of other counties have voted recently for significant overhauls of their championships but I think the vibes in our own county are fairly negative when the subject is mooted. One of the reasons why Cork and Kerry win a lot of the All Ireland intermediate and junior football champions is the divisional system. It's the same in hurling with Kiilkenny who have such a competitive intermediate and junior championships because there are only 12 clubs in the top 2 tiers.simple way of reducing the championship from 16 to 12 teams. In Limerick they reduced their hurling championship from 16 to 12 in one year by dividing the 16 clubs in 4 groups of 4. The two team teams in each group progress to quarter finals. The bottom team in each group automatically relegated.
Unfortunately you are left in the position that the intermediate champions do not gain automatic promotion that year. If you wanted to give them promotion then you could have the 3rd place teams in the group play relegation semi-finals and relegation final with one team eventually losing out.
If you were to go the whole hog (which I would do). Top eight teams progress to quarter finals and bottom eight teams relegated to intermediate.
Then for the start of the following year's championship (2020) I would then create my four regional sides meaning that their are 12 teams in the championship (8 individual clubs and 4 regional sides). Any club that is not playing at senior level, their players are eligible to play senior for their regional side (similar to kerry model). If a club is promoted to senior then those players are no longer eligible to play for the regional team. Therefore every club is playing individually at their right level and it will do away once and for all with some of these ridiculous amalgamations that we have e.g. crettyard/spink where some of the spink (in reality Ballinakill hurlers) players are kicking a football for the first time that year playing in a competitive championship match.
It's just a thought but it would really strengthen our championship and could be fully up and running by championship 2020.
Great post and it should definitely be considered by the county board. Let’s hope they are reading 😉
Great point but I’d be surprised if county board bought into some common sense though.
The county board do not make those decisions. They can merely come with proposals. The clubs make the decision. Those idea(s) mentioned above are very good but it would mean a lot of clubs voting, in effect, to relegate themselves. I have yet to see a turkey vote for Christmas.
Anyone know where I could get my hands on a coaching manual written by Colm Nally?
Think he's a Louth lad who does a bit of coaching with Leinster GAA.
That's the point I made earlier in the thread. The 16 senior football clubs are never going to back a proposal that eight of them get relegated in one year.simple way of reducing the championship from 16 to 12 teams. In Limerick they reduced their hurling championship from 16 to 12 in one year by dividing the 16 clubs in 4 groups of 4. The two team teams in each group progress to quarter finals. The bottom team in each group automatically relegated.
Unfortunately you are left in the position that the intermediate champions do not gain automatic promotion that year. If you wanted to give them promotion then you could have the 3rd place teams in the group play relegation semi-finals and relegation final with one team eventually losing out.
If you were to go the whole hog (which I would do). Top eight teams progress to quarter finals and bottom eight teams relegated to intermediate.
Then for the start of the following year's championship (2020) I would then create my four regional sides meaning that their are 12 teams in the championship (8 individual clubs and 4 regional sides). Any club that is not playing at senior level, their players are eligible to play senior for their regional side (similar to kerry model). If a club is promoted to senior then those players are no longer eligible to play for the regional team. Therefore every club is playing individually at their right level and it will do away once and for all with some of these ridiculous amalgamations that we have e.g. crettyard/spink where some of the spink (in reality Ballinakill hurlers) players are kicking a football for the first time that year playing in a competitive championship match.
It's just a thought but it would really strengthen our championship and could be fully up and running by championship 2020.
Great post and it should definitely be considered by the county board. Let’s hope they are reading 😉
Great point but I’d be surprised if county board bought into some common sense though.
The county board do not make those decisions. They can merely come with proposals. The clubs make the decision. Those idea(s) mentioned above are very good but it would mean a lot of clubs voting, in effect, to relegate themselves. I have yet to see a turkey vote for Christmas.
It baffles me how much air time he gets. There are dissident republicans that have a much much larger mandate than he has but don't even get a fraction of the air time. I'm not saying they should, but there must be a reason this Muppet who has only ever managed a handful of votes is wheeled out consistently.See Jamie Bryson threatening violence, he doesn’t realise that they are no longer the master race,why is he threatening violence? Is the DUP not in power ?
Times they are a changing.
Because he's not getting his way. Plain and simple.
Takes a few yrs sometimes for lads to mature into senior competition and certainly losing key personnel not easy for any side.
Though Div 2 no walk in the park for getting back out of.
It baffles me how much air time he gets. There are dissident republicans that have a much much larger mandate than he has but don't even get a fraction of the air time. I'm not saying they should, but there must be a reason this Muppet who has only ever managed a handful of votes is wheeled out consistently.See Jamie Bryson threatening violence, he doesn’t realise that they are no longer the master race,why is he threatening violence? Is the DUP not in power ?
Times they are a changing.
Because he's not getting his way. Plain and simple.
