Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
I am aghast at the hypocrisy on display on this thread dressed as political opinion/analysis.

Are you also aghast at the fake news manufactured by O'Dowd and O'Neill over today and yesterday?

Yesterday, John O'Dowd in An Phoblacht said that Sinn Féin had opened up the discussion for a progressive alliance "but the SDLP came up with nothing reasonable".

Today, Michelle O'Neill stated:

"When the Westminster election campaign was announced I took the initiative to invite other party leaders to explore the possibilities of a progressive pact to maximise the anti-Brexit, anti Tory vote and pro-rights and pro-equality vote. Other parties were unable to take up this offer."

Colum Eastwood had already got a refusal from Naomi Long and an understanding from Steven Agnew by the time SF began to move on the idea of an anti-Brexit alliance for the election.

Avondhu star

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 10, 2017, 06:29:45 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
I am aghast at the hypocrisy on display on this thread dressed as political opinion/analysis.

Are you also aghast at the fake news manufactured by O'Dowd and O'Neill over today and yesterday?

Yesterday, John O'Dowd in An Phoblacht said that Sinn Féin had opened up the discussion for a progressive alliance "but the SDLP came up with nothing reasonable".

Today, Michelle O'Neill stated:

"When the Westminster election campaign was announced I took the initiative to invite other party leaders to explore the possibilities of a progressive pact to maximise the anti-Brexit, anti Tory vote and pro-rights and pro-equality vote. Other parties were unable to take up this offer."

Colum Eastwood had already got a refusal from Naomi Long and an understanding from Steven Agnew by the time SF began to move on the idea of an anti-Brexit alliance for the election.
Don't let the truth get in the way of political bullshit
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Minder

So SDLP are giving SF a clear run in N Belfast with the fact they are running Martin McAuley, a press officer for them.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Minder on May 10, 2017, 08:12:42 PM
So SDLP are giving SF a clear run in N Belfast with the fact they are running Martin McAuley, a press officer for them.

Nicola Mallon is unavailable.

Applesisapples

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 10, 2017, 06:29:45 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
I am aghast at the hypocrisy on display on this thread dressed as political opinion/analysis.

Are you also aghast at the fake news manufactured by O'Dowd and O'Neill over today and yesterday?

Yesterday, John O'Dowd in An Phoblacht said that Sinn Féin had opened up the discussion for a progressive alliance "but the SDLP came up with nothing reasonable".

Today, Michelle O'Neill stated:

"When the Westminster election campaign was announced I took the initiative to invite other party leaders to explore the possibilities of a progressive pact to maximise the anti-Brexit, anti Tory vote and pro-rights and pro-equality vote. Other parties were unable to take up this offer."

Colum Eastwood had already got a refusal from Naomi Long and an understanding from Steven Agnew by the time SF began to move on the idea of an anti-Brexit alliance for the election.
Par for the course with the SDLP and SF always claiming to be the first. It's political whataboutery and all parties do it, which is my point.

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Applesisapples on May 11, 2017, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 10, 2017, 06:29:45 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
I am aghast at the hypocrisy on display on this thread dressed as political opinion/analysis.

Are you also aghast at the fake news manufactured by O'Dowd and O'Neill over today and yesterday?

Yesterday, John O'Dowd in An Phoblacht said that Sinn Féin had opened up the discussion for a progressive alliance "but the SDLP came up with nothing reasonable".

Today, Michelle O'Neill stated:

"When the Westminster election campaign was announced I took the initiative to invite other party leaders to explore the possibilities of a progressive pact to maximise the anti-Brexit, anti Tory vote and pro-rights and pro-equality vote. Other parties were unable to take up this offer."

Colum Eastwood had already got a refusal from Naomi Long and an understanding from Steven Agnew by the time SF began to move on the idea of an anti-Brexit alliance for the election.
Par for the course with the SDLP and SF always claiming to be the first. It's political whataboutery and all parties do it, which is my point.

Except in the case of SF they were making a false claim and continuing their narrative of re-wrtiting the historical facts.

Keyser soze

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39892329

SF seemed to have learned nothing over the past 5 years.

Do they not realise that equating the Irish language with Ulster Scots and Orange 'culture' is about the most insulting thing they could do. They appear to see it as a bargaining chip rather than as an icon of Irish culture to cherish.

It disgusted me that they allowed the DUP to hoodwink them previously on this issue, the unionists must have been laughing their heads off at managing to achieve equality for a 'language' less than a decade old with Gaelic, which has existed for millenia. And O'Neill is giving consideration to going down this route again, I can't think of any better way of diminishing or insulting the Irish language than this, and they are going to fall for it twice.


Applesisapples

Quote from: Keyser soze on May 12, 2017, 09:58:45 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39892329

SF seemed to have learned nothing over the past 5 years.

Do they not realise that equating the Irish language with Ulster Scots and Orange 'culture' is about the most insulting thing they could do. They appear to see it as a bargaining chip rather than as an icon of Irish culture to cherish.

It disgusted me that they allowed the DUP to hoodwink them previously on this issue, the unionists must have been laughing their heads off at managing to achieve equality for a 'language' less than a decade old with Gaelic, which has existed for millenia. And O'Neill is giving consideration to going down this route again, I can't think of any better way of diminishing or insulting the Irish language than this, and they are going to fall for it twice.
She definitely did no such thing. She was asked if she had an issue for legal protection for Orange Culture and Ulster Scots and quite rightly said she had no issue. That is not the same as saying that any Irish Language Act should include these or that any protection would be equivalent to that framed in an Irish Language Act.

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Rossfan

Meanwhile in the parallel universe PBP/Solidarity have decided they won't let SF be in any future "Left Wing Coalition" because SF said something about possibly being in Coalition with FF or FG sometime in the future.
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ashman

Quote from: Rossfan on September 13, 2017, 07:48:36 PM
Meanwhile in the parallel universe PBP/Solidarity have decided they won't let SF be in any future "Left Wing Coalition" because SF said something about possibly being in Coalition with FF or FG sometime in the future.

SF are not a socialist party .


Owen Brannigan

Quote from: ashman on October 20, 2017, 08:17:36 AM
http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/sinn-fein-say-exmlas-speaker-salary-her-own-affair-36243713.html

Nice work if you can get it .

Integrity.

While thousands move on to unmitigated universal credit and all of us head to a Tory set budget at the beginning of November, an unelected SF politician continues to draw a salary for assistant speaker since leaving the Assembly in June 2017.  Then thinks its OK to say she gave the public money away.

Watch how quickly SF do a deal to return once the Tories have set the budget for 2017-18 that O'Muilleoir couldn't manage to do and then for SF to blame it all on the Tories.

Owen Brannigan

O'Neill and Murphy hung out to dry by faceless, unelected SF senior party colleagues.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/why-michelle-oneills-reported-compromise-was-overruled-by-hardliners-36241300.html

Then Adams, 'the great misleader' according to Leo, tries to spin his way out of the problem by blaming Irish government as the source when non-governmental sources are being quoted by most journalists, i.e. from within SF.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/michelle-o-neill-was-ready-to-make-deal-to-restore-stormont-executive-1.3259884

Owen Brannigan

While Universal Credit bites the most vulnerable, bedroom tax is unmitigated, third sector workers are laid off and £30m of in-year cuts are being implemented by the Health Trusts, the Assembly runs up £300,000 for broadcasting nothing and spends £200,000 providing subsidised food to well paid MLAs and their staff and former MLAs continue to be paid £55K pa for the last 7 months until C Ruane SF resigns as Jim Allister TUV exposes the continued payments. Danny Kennedy UUP resigned his assistant Speaker post when he lost his seat in June taking no additional payments and A Attwood SDLP pays his MLA salary back each month.  C Ruane claims to have given her payments from the public purse away instead of returning them but did she provide her usual payment to SF to stay within the average industrial wage? She did nothing legally wrong. 

See how it was reported by BBC on The View:

https://youtu.be/NcK_mxxVO3k