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Aye, Mickey Marley.

Had to google that.

Isn't it odd that very few clubs commemorate working class/labour figures. Always the catholic nationalist side.

Dozens of Pearses. One named after Connolly. And thats in Glasgow.

Are amy GAA clubs named after women who aren't St. Bridget?

St Rynagh's x2 in OY.

St Marys Burren
St Bronagh Rostrevor
St Dympna Dromore
St Teresa Belfast
St Agnes Belfast
St Ita Cork

There are probably loads more

"Transphobia" seems to mean refusing to accept trans doctrine.
It doesn't seem to tally with actual hatred of anyone.

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/transphobia

NOUN
Dislike of or prejudice against transsexual or transgender people.

My own slightly sitting on the fence view on the whole thing is .....  if someone else said they feel emotionally more like a woman and would like to identify as 1 I'd shrug and think ok fair enough.

excess snipped out from your message.
How far does fair enough go?
Men who have chosen to identify as female, no surgery no hormones, can just act out life as a woman, can compete as a woman in sports?
Can just walk into female changing rooms and take showers etc?

Sport I think is unfair to have genetic advantage pre surgery. I'm not sure going into female communal showers happens much, shower cubicle probably.

Just leave them be ffs is my main point on Linehan. He doesn't need to send 20 messages per day on the subject, I'm sure most of them just want to be left in peace to get on with there lives.  He has a profile surely there must be something else happening in the world.

The main take I got from the JK Rowling article was that less is more sometimes, nearly 4000 words is more like the scattergun approach people take when in a school history test where they just put everything they can think of down on WW2 no matter what the question was.  Her husband used to beat her up is very tenuously related to trans issues and would surely justify her taking up the cause of domestic abuse victims, not going after someone who likes to wear a dress.

One of the issues I have with JK Rowling and Linehan even more so is that they spend an unhealthy amount of time tweeting (and presumably thinking) about something that isn't really that important.  If someone came into a pub and said they think the Tyrone team of 2005 was the best team ever there might be some back and forward and eventually people would either agree or disagree and move on but if the person kept coming back to the topic every 5 minutes someone would probably just say we have got your point and eventually tell them to shut to #### up about it.

My own slightly sitting on the fence view on the whole thing is if someone thought chopping off something doesn't change you from the sex you were born into I'd shrug and think I can see where you are coming from and if someone else said they feel emotionally more like a woman and would like to identify as 1 I'd shrug and think ok fair enough.

Agree Sam,  it's a great thing for Down GAA,  we need clubs forming in places we don't have clubs.

As long as it meets approval of surrounding clubs, ( and I imagine they would look on it positively in terms of extra local competition) , it should be an exciting development .

So my own Club would have to agree to East Belfast being setting up a Club?I don't think that is the case.
We wish them all the best but it'll be tough.

My understanding is that there are certain regulations and procedures around new starts , and exploring potential detrimental impact on surrounding clubs would be part of that. Catchment area etc has to be decided upon. Wouldn't see it as a problem as when demographics are supportive, a new club is probably more likely to help surrounding clubs, in fact carryduff/bredagh/st pauls are likely to provide good info and advice

If any club would be impacted it would be Bredagh, the rest of the clubs are far enough away that it wouldn't encroach there catchment area.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Malone+Rugby+Football+Club,+Gibson+Park+Avenue,+Cregagh+Road,+Belfast,+UK/Cherryvale+Playing+Fields,+Ravenhill+Road,+Belfast,+UK/@54.5864897,-5.8997223,15z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x4861091110cba439:0xa3e743e4353c4c80!2m2!1d-5.89616!2d54.582887!1m5!1m1!1s0x4861091c594a4efb:0xd22ccbe770a08bcf!2m2!1d-5.911152!2d54.5748953

This day 19 years ago the great Stephen Cluxton made his Dublin debut in Leinster championship against Longford in Croke Park in 2001. Stephen has made a record breaking 106 championship appearances. He has also played a further 104 league games making league debut against Donegal in February 02.

Stephen Cluxtons honours
7 All Irelands(Captain for 6 AI titles)
5 National Leagues
15 Leinsters
1 Leinster minor
1 Leinster u21
1 Sigerson Cup
Footballer of the Year
6 All Stars
106 championship appearances
48 championship points
60 championship clean sheets
Captain Ireland in International Rules

Would 15 provincial titles be a record? A combination of longevity and dominance.

I'd say 15 is record for football.  Dan O'Keefe from Kerry has 13 titles. Not sure what record is for hurling

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughie_O%27Reilly

Not sure how accurate. At least some of the ulster titles where as manager.

Edit: I guess if he made the 1923 team when was 19 he could still be playing in 1945 at 41. Which would be 19 titles.

Penny has finally dropped it seems for Sweden. With their top epidemiologist Anders Tegnell admitting that too many people have died in their country they should have done more to prevent the spread of the disease.

They will now use start using the "test, trace and isolate" to combat the virus while the so called herd-immunity strategy is scrapped.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8379769/Professor-Lockdown-Neil-Ferguson-admits-greatest-respect-Sweden.html

Ferguson presumably didn't follow his own advice when he was ######## his bit on the side despite predicting up to 500000 deaths if we all don't self isolate.

He broke his own advice. But how does that invalidate his work, may I ask?

Either he couldn't keep away and was prepared to die in order to see his mistress given his 500000 death number or he didn't think the risk was as great as he was leading the public to believe.

You haven't explained how him breaking lockdown to visit his lover invalidates his work.

It showed a human fallibility and a selfishness on his part.

But that has no effect on the validity of his work.

It would appear you're not familiar with what conclusions his work came to.

His model is just that, a model and like all models it is based on assumptions. Paddy Power probably could build a model to predict the winner of the 2023 AI but it will make lots if assumptions and lots of best guesses. Based on the different approaches of different countries the 500k prediction seems way off to me.

His personal conduct is relevant in this case as it directly contradicts his advice.

Ferguson presumably didn't follow his own advice when he was ######## his bit on the side despite predicting up to 500000 deaths if we all don't self isolate.

He broke his own advice. But how does that invalidate his work, may I ask?

Either he couldn't keep away and was prepared to die in order to see his mistress given his 500000 death number or he didn't think the risk was as great as he was leading the public to believe.

You're gaslighting.

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/19/10484

We draw scenarios of different containment measures and their impact. Results suggest that the sequence of restrictions posed to mobility and human-to-human interactions have reduced transmission by 45% (42 to 49%). Averted hospitalizations are measured by running scenarios obtained by selectively relaxing the imposed restrictions and total about 200,000 individuals (as of March 25, 2020). Although a number of assumptions need to be reexamined, like age structure in social mixing patterns and in the distribution of mobility, hospitalization, and fatality, we conclude that verifiable evidence exists to support the planning of emergency measures.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w26906

We find, using simulations with these estimates, that the lockdown of the city of Wuhan on January 23, 2020 contributed significantly to reducing the total infection cases outside of Wuhan, even with the social distancing measures later imposed by other cities. We find that the COVID-19 cases would be 64.81% higher in the 347 Chinese cities outside Hubei province, and 52.64% higher in the 16 non-Wuhan cities inside Hubei, in the counterfactual world in which the city of Wuhan were not locked down from January 23, 2020. We also find that there were substantial undocumented infection cases in the early days of the 2019-nCoV outbreak in Wuhan and other cities of Hubei province, but over time, the gap between the officially reported cases and our estimated "actual" cases narrows significantly. We also find evidence that enhanced social distancing policies in the 63 Chinese cities outside Hubei province are effective in reducing the impact of population inflows from the epicenter cities in Hubei province on the spread of 2019-nCoV virus in the destination cities elsewhere.

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/19/10484

The problem with irrational contrarians and gaslighters is that they will use literally everything as confirmation bias for their own stupid views.

You fall straight into that category.

You don't look at the evidence and form an opinion from that.

You form an opinion and then look for evidence to confim that opinion, and if you the evidence contradicts your opinion, you dismiss it.

You claim that COVID-19 will go away of its own accord in the near future. You say it's no longer a problem. I asked you for evidence to back up your claim.

You provided none.

I also asked you to explain why you say Neil Ferguson "should be in prison".

You haven't backed that up either.

If I am gaslighting, then so is The Lancet.

It has become clear that a hard lockdown does not protect old and frail people living in care homes—a population the lockdown was designed to protect. Neither does it decrease mortality from COVID-19, which is evident when comparing the UK's experience with that of other European countries

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31035-7/fulltext#%20

I cited the precedent of the Spanish flu aa an example of a pandemic that went away of its own accord.

As for my opinion on Ferguson, it was and remains presented as such and not as objective fact. The mayhem and destruction unleashed by his fraudulent interpretation of his own incompetent computer model is in my opinion beyond criminal. You of course are free to disagree if you wish.

I will not be responding to your intemperate ad hominem.

The Spanish Flu is not a precedent for how this virus behaves, it was a flu virus, not a coronavirus. And the Spanish Flu killed around 50-80 million people. Why are citing something that killed multiple times the amount that died in World War II as "precedent" for Covid if you think Covid is "not a problem"?

You're complaining about ad hominems after claiming that somebody should be in prison? Pull the other one.

Neil Ferguson unleashed no mayhem. He is a mathematical modeller. His advice forced the British government to change tack from their utterly calamitous "herd immunity" strategy which you obviously supported, given that you so oppose lockdown. The genie was out of the bottle by then, and a calamity was unavoidable, but it could have been several times greater if not for Ferguson.

And you think he should be in prison? For offering advice which helped to save lives? What kind of a person are you at all?

The reason people in care homes have died is because the UK Government didn't give a shit about the people in care homes. It's nothing to do with lockdown. People in care homes can generally only be cared for through bodily contact and close proximity to patients, which is exactly how this virus spreads. The UK Government forced infected people into care homes and failed on PPE. That's why there has been a holocaust of people in care homes. The Irish Government failed on care homes too.

You said the UK avoided an Italy scenario. They most certainly did not.

Ferguson presumably didn't follow his own advice when he was ######## his bit on the side despite predicting up to 500000 deaths if we all don't self isolate.

[and he be the first forward I pick on any team of any era.]

Connor better than any of them, it's the fact too many voters are too young to remember him. He better that Cooper, Murphy and Maurice, and he be the first forward I pick on any team of any era.

Agree 100%, Matt Connor is the best footballer to have ever played the game.

I was thinking earlier if I could choose 1 player from any era I would pick Matt Connor.

In my own workplace, in December I remember a lot of sickness - so much so, the coughing and spluttering looking back now was really very obvious that it could well have been this - at the time it was put down to 'a bad oul flu going round'....I'm sure a few of you looking back might remember something similar.

It isn't at all obvious. I'm sure there were people sneezing and coughing just as much in the previous December. If people were in the workplace and not in bed then they had a corona virus, i.e. the common cold.

If Covid continues to follow its current course, then somewhere along the line, scientists (and their cult like followers) are going to have to admit they misjudged this one, and maybe indeed watched Contagion one time too many.

I'd like them to do this. Science is a much more noble pursuit when there is an admission of weakness. Being the smartest epidemiologist in the world still doesn't make you a soothsayer.

The problem we all though face is that it's going to take a long time before governments will unilaterally trust the opinion of scientists again, and if this recession hits as expected, it's going to take generations before the general population would allow them to. With the problem of course being that should a proper Spanish Flu type virus emerge in the meantime, it will be extraordinarily destructive.

Scientists (and their cult like followers) would do well to recall the boy who cried wolf. We all learn it in primary school for a very good reason.

There could be a worse virus, but this one is bad enough. It isn't so bad in most places because measures were taken, Wuhan, Lombardy and New York show the danger of delaying these measures. There may be a recession, but I don't expect someone to die to support my standard of living.

Poverty kills.  Compare the life expectancy of a person living in any inner city in the UK with high unemployment to a more affluent area and the average life expectancy can be down by as much as 10 years.  Mental health issues, depression, high alcohol and drug use, poor diet etc. are all synonymous with areas of high unemployment.

I just watched the first few episodes of the Michael Jordan documentary on netflix, Jerry Krause the Chicago Bulls general manager in a press conference in Phil Jacksons final season said something like 'I don't give a **** if he goes 82-0 he won't be here next season'.  Similarly with Jimmy Johnson and the Dallas Cowboys, he got sacked after winning back to back Superbowls.  Not sure Colemans sacking is quite in that category but it's a strange 1 that he got sacked after winning the county's first All Ireland and then losing a very tight game to the eventual champions.  It's hard to understand what the Derry county board where thinking.

Mickey Moran's record as a manager can be compared favourably with most so it surprises me that he took the job with all the ill feeling around.  Now that Brolly has said what he has said it would be interesting to get Moran's take on how it all played out.  e.g. was Moran a) informed that Coleman was sacked and then asked would he interested in applying for the job and thought Derry still had a very good team and it would be a pity to break it up with a completely new management team or b) was he approached before Coleman was sacked and asked would he be interested in Coleman's job if he was to be sacked.

Aidan Walsh?

Seriously?

I guess from 2010 to 2012 his performances were top class. Since then, not so much.

With all due respect his performances were not top class. He had a good game in the final against a Down side that had no real midfield and the chap could not kick a ball straight. He was a big mullocker in a team of big mullockers for a side who won the softest All Ireland in the last 40 years.

He was 19 in 2009 when won U21 AI and was 1 of Corks main players when Cork won the AI in 2010 (winning 2 Allstars and young player of the year wasn't controversial). He won National League medals as well in 2010, 2011, 2012. He might not have been the Gooch in terms of skill but he was good at what he was good at which was winning the ball and giving it to someone else and getting up and down the pitch. If anything leaving the football panel and switching to hurling in 2014 was a surprise.

Problem:

In cell F9 I have a date that I would like to change dependent on the value in another cell.  That cell will be in the range I9:JR9 and will contain the number 1.  In row 6 there are dates in sequential order in cells I6:JR6.  So if the number 1 appears in cell M9, I want the value in M6 to appear in cell F9.  If I drag the cell containing the number 1 to cell P9 then I want the date in F9 to update to P6.

Near solution:

=INDEX(I$6:JR$6,MATCH(1,I$9:JR$9,0))

This works if I manually type in the number but not when I drag it left to right.

Any ideas?

If I understand what you are trying to do right, your formula worked for me... By drag it left to right I assume you mean there is still only one "1" entry in row 9 rather than copying?

Did you try fully fixing the ranges?

=INDEX($I$6:$JR$6, MATCH(1,$J$9:$JR$9,0))

Aye there will only ever be one number 1 in the row.  Even when I add the extra $ signs, as soon as I drag the cell to one side the formula changes in F9.

Think I have a work around with HLOOKUP instead that seems to be doing what I want it to.

=LOOKUP(1,$I$9:$JR$10,$I$6:$JR$6)

Should work

HLOOKUP will work if you put the 1 above the date as it does the lookup for the match on the highest row

=HLOOKUP(1,$I$5:$JR$6,2,FALSE)