Super 8s

[irish345]

i think the super 8s are too long and drawing out get rid  of them unless you play them over the space of a week but the gaa wont do midweek games

[From the Bunker]

Jez lads ye are looking at doing this and that! The reality is that you can have all the systems, Leagues, round robins, back-door, front door, straight knock-out, whatever - the problem is really is a financially doped Dublin football team!

Take Dublin out of the equation and you have good competitive inter-county football. Teams on a slight rise and teams on a slight decline.

Super 8's, All Ireland Championship and Leinster Championships would all be competitive without Financially Doped Dublin! 

[irish345]

another system i thought of was the 4 provincial champions play each other in a preliminary quarter finals the 2 winners into semi finals 2 losers meet two teams from the qualifiers in the quarter finals that would mean an extra qualifier round to cut the 4 teams to two teams

[giveballaghback]

The way to avoid a dead rubber in the last game is for the winners of round 1 to play each other in round 2 and the same for the losers. If there is a draw in round one then there can be no dead rubber.
Anyway while the dubs are at the level they are at the competition is a joke.
If I had a preference it would be back to the old straight knockout system and no back door. Nothing like Russian roulette to sharpen the mind. Currently Mayo are still in it having lost 2 games, the whole thing is farcical and signs on it people are voting with their feet.
Change is needed and quick.

[BennyCake]

Change is needed. But it won't happen. The suits will continue with this nonsense.

[Armagh18]

Roscommon vs Cork will be the first senior intercounty football championship match in the 130 odd years of the GAA where neither team has any prospect of advancement in the competition.

Is the above statement correct?

If so, then this alone is sufficient cause to do away with the Super 8 shitshow.

Well tbf any team facing Dublin in Leinster this decade has pretty much had zero chance of advancing in that particular competition...

[Armagh18]

Got rid of provincial. 8 groups with 4 teams .Teams play each other twice. Top 2 teams go to A championship. Bottom 2 to B championship. All knockout. A & B to be played same day.

I like that idea but the Ulster championship was absolutely superb this year so no way should it be scrapped. Connacht is competitive as well and if Cork can keep improving they'll give Kerry their fill of it down there too. Could maybe kick them other huers out of Leinster and let them play club football or something so we might see competitive games there too.

[TheGreatest]

Jez lads ye are looking at doing this and that! The reality is that you can have all the systems, Leagues, round robins, back-door, front door, straight knock-out, whatever - the problem is really is a financially doped Dublin football team!

Take Dublin out of the equation and you have good competitive inter-county football. Teams on a slight rise and teams on a slight decline.

Super 8's, All Ireland Championship and Leinster Championships would all be competitive without Financially Doped Dublin!

Thats just an opinion, if it was the truth, Dublin would be winning all completions, in all codes, at all age levels and both genders, not happening, only in Football from U-20.  So thoughtful opinion, but an incorrect one.

[Hound]

Jez lads ye are looking at doing this and that! The reality is that you can have all the systems, Leagues, round robins, back-door, front door, straight knock-out, whatever - the problem is really is a financially doped Dublin football team!

Take Dublin out of the equation and you have good competitive inter-county football. Teams on a slight rise and teams on a slight decline.

Super 8's, All Ireland Championship and Leinster Championships would all be competitive without Financially Doped Dublin!

Thats just an opinion, if it was the truth, Dublin would be winning all completions, in all codes, at all age levels and both genders, not happening, only in Football from U-20.  So thoughtful opinion, but an incorrect one.

Despite the fact that the Games Development Officers don't go near any of the elite players, there is this great myth how these GDOs are doing incredible work turning Dublin youngsters into superstars. And amazingly this training they don't get from the GDOs doesn't kick in until they're over 19! 

[Dire Ear]

Personally I'd make the following changes.

The 4 provincial champions are randomly drawn to play the 4 qualifiers.

The winners of those ties go through to the semi finals.

This

[Hound]

According to Sean Moran in the Times, it looks certain that the Croke Park Round will be replaced by the Neutral Round for 2020.

Hopefully someone has the cop on to ensure they also charge the format so two winners from S8 Round 1 play each other in S8 Round 2, to avoid the nonsense we have with Dublin, Tyrone, Cork, Ros

[TheGreatest]

According to Sean Moran in the Times, it looks certain that the Croke Park Round will be replaced by the Neutral Round for 2020.

Hopefully someone has the cop on to ensure they also charge the format so two winners from S8 Round 1 play each other in S8 Round 2, to avoid the nonsense we have with Dublin, Tyrone, Cork, Ros

Hopefully, or provincial winners at home the last game, first game away etc.

[Tubberman]

According to Sean Moran in the Times, it looks certain that the Croke Park Round will be replaced by the Neutral Round for 2020.

Hopefully someone has the cop on to ensure they also charge the format so two winners from S8 Round 1 play each other in S8 Round 2, to avoid the nonsense we have with Dublin, Tyrone, Cork, Ros

Hopefully, or provincial winners at home the last game, first game away etc.

That would put provincial winners at an immediate disadvantage,  they could be out before they play their home game.

[seafoid]

The most important thing at this stage is the trend in attendance figures

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gate-receipts-and-attendances-for-football-championship-slid-alarmingly-in-2018-despite-the-introduction-of-the-super-8s-37788169.html

"Attendances figures for the All-Ireland football championship dropped by nearly a fifth last year resulting in a twenty three percent reduction in gate receipts, even though there were six more games played.Overall, the average attendances figures at the 39 games in the All-Ireland series – which includes the qualifiers, the Super 8s and the All-Ireland semi-final and final – was 13,225.
In 2017 when there were 33 games played in the football series the average attendance was 19,049."

If this continues change is more likely 
You can't fool all of the culchies all of the time

[inthrough]

Jez lads ye are looking at doing this and that! The reality is that you can have all the systems, Leagues, round robins, back-door, front door, straight knock-out, whatever - the problem is really is a financially doped Dublin football team!

Take Dublin out of the equation and you have good competitive inter-county football. Teams on a slight rise and teams on a slight decline.

Super 8's, All Ireland Championship and Leinster Championships would all be competitive without Financially Doped Dublin!

What the money has done is made GAA respectable in middle class areas & schools thereby vastly increasing the overall participation & giving the county a much larger pool of talented players to pick from.

The fact of the matter is that the Dublin dominance is basically down to the huge numbers they have to pick from plus a very well organised structure & a superb management team. Throw the fairy dust that is Stephen Cluxton into the mix & you have the perfect storm for other counties.

My complaint with the GAA in all this would be that seeing this as a fact of life they should be redistributing their resources away from Dublin, who clearly don't need it anymore, towards replicating the formula everywhere else & levelling the playing field to a certain degree.

Dublin will always have an advantage in numbers & in having Croke Park as their home ground, nothing much can be done about that. The financial side of things can hoiwever be tweaked & it should be.

Thats just an opinion, if it was the truth, Dublin would be winning all completions, in all codes, at all age levels and both genders, not happening, only in Football from U-20.  So thoughtful opinion, but an incorrect one.

Despite the fact that the Games Development Officers don't go near any of the elite players, there is this great myth how these GDOs are doing incredible work turning Dublin youngsters into superstars. And amazingly this training they don't get from the GDOs doesn't kick in until they're over 19!