The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Arne to Slot right in?

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bridgegael

Quote from: statto on April 12, 2024, 06:39:01 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 11, 2024, 10:29:49 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on April 11, 2024, 09:40:18 PMKelleher has had a nightmare tonight

Mad singling out the keeper when those in front of him stunk the place out. Liverpool fans must realise tonight what it's like to be a Utd fan atm, the lack of effort from a good half dozen of them was shocking
Wouldn't say its mad given that his two errors had a big say in the outcome.Even if he's stronger for the third goal 2-0 seems alot easier to turnaround than 3-0.


There was a deflection on the last shot that probably made Kelleher spill it.
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johnnycool

Kelleher had a mixed bag of a night to be fair, an absolute wonder save (with his face) to save a certain goal a few minutes before he was slow to get down to the first goal.

His distribution was also poor but I think credit has to be given to Atalanta, they'd worked out the Liverpool restart strategy, didn't allow the first set of passes to get into midfield and when it goes back to Kelleher he tries to lop in just beyond midfield into the spaces behind the press, but they were there for it and physically much stronger in that area.
Atalanta won midfield throughout the game.

Gakpo had one of his better evenings and it seems he's better suited at picking the ball up in deep areas and then driving forward with it, he's not a hold up type centre forward and neither is he a run off the shoulder lad.

Nunez's wastefulness in front of goal and Salah is just dire at the minute is the main reason Liverpool are in this position.



statto

Quote from: johnnycool on April 12, 2024, 08:14:02 AMKelleher had a mixed bag of a night to be fair, an absolute wonder save (with his face) to save a certain goal a few minutes before he was slow to get down to the first goal.

His distribution was also poor but I think credit has to be given to Atalanta, they'd worked out the Liverpool restart strategy, didn't allow the first set of passes to get into midfield and when it goes back to Kelleher he tries to lop in just beyond midfield into the spaces behind the press, but they were there for it and physically much stronger in that area.
Atalanta won midfield throughout the game.

Gakpo had one of his better evenings and it seems he's better suited at picking the ball up in deep areas and then driving forward with it, he's not a hold up type centre forward and neither is he a run off the shoulder lad.

Nunez's wastefulness in front of goal and Salah is just dire at the minute is the main reason Liverpool are in this position.


Can't help but think Kelleher getting extra protection on here as he's  Irish if Raya or Onana concede those goals they are getting pelters. The first goal which is a howler then has a massive impact on game.  Don't see how you can proportion more blame on Salah who came on at ht to a team that was clearly not at themselves.

Milltown Row2

Salah for whatever reasons is not at the races, that's a fair reflection no?

Could hit a hatful at the weekend. Think Klopp said he didnt think Atalanta were going to be as good? with the title run in he has to rotate, Atalanta not in same position back in Italy so they flogged their players last night. Think they made one change on 88 minutes or something

I'd be an advocate of putting out my strongest team, put the home leg to bed and move on with a lesser tea the next day. Thats probably why I'm not a PL manager  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

square_ball

Liverpool have a right good chance in the league now if they do go out. Ideal scenario will be Arsenal and City to meet in the champions league semi in a few weeks.

I am nearly tempted to stick a tenner on them to still win the Europa. They have been creating loads of chances and if they get an early goal in Italy, Atlanta could shit the bed. Depends if Klopp thinks they'd be better chasing it or turn their attentions to the winning the league.

Blowitupref

Quote from: square_ball on April 12, 2024, 09:33:10 AMLiverpool have a right good chance in the league now if they do go out. Ideal scenario will be Arsenal and City to meet in the champions league semi in a few weeks.

I am nearly tempted to stick a tenner on them to still win the Europa. They have been creating loads of chances and if they get an early goal in Italy, Atlanta could shit the bed. Depends if Klopp thinks they'd be better chasing it or turn their attentions to the winning the league.

Could be a blessing in disguise if Liverpool go out and City,Arsenal progress to the semi finals of the Champions league.


This is the schedule if they go through.

May 2nd - Europa league semi final 1st leg

May 5th Tottenham (H)

May 9th Europa league semi final 2nd
leg

May 13th Aston Villa (A)
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

johnnycool

Quote from: statto on April 12, 2024, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 12, 2024, 08:14:02 AMKelleher had a mixed bag of a night to be fair, an absolute wonder save (with his face) to save a certain goal a few minutes before he was slow to get down to the first goal.

His distribution was also poor but I think credit has to be given to Atalanta, they'd worked out the Liverpool restart strategy, didn't allow the first set of passes to get into midfield and when it goes back to Kelleher he tries to lop in just beyond midfield into the spaces behind the press, but they were there for it and physically much stronger in that area.
Atalanta won midfield throughout the game.

Gakpo had one of his better evenings and it seems he's better suited at picking the ball up in deep areas and then driving forward with it, he's not a hold up type centre forward and neither is he a run off the shoulder lad.

Nunez's wastefulness in front of goal and Salah is just dire at the minute is the main reason Liverpool are in this position.


Can't help but think Kelleher getting extra protection on here as he's  Irish if Raya or Onana concede those goals they are getting pelters. The first goal which is a howler then has a massive impact on game.  Don't see how you can proportion more blame on Salah who came on at ht to a team that was clearly not at themselves.

I think I attributed blame for the first goal to Kelleher, the third I think is harsh to blame him on and I've also pointed out he'd a mixed bag, so hardly blind, gushing praise for the lad, Irish or not!

Salah was on for half the game and I can't recollect any real threat from him and he has been poor the two games going into this.

J70

Quote from: jcpen on April 12, 2024, 09:42:09 AM
Quote from: statto on April 12, 2024, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 12, 2024, 08:14:02 AMKelleher had a mixed bag of a night to be fair, an absolute wonder save (with his face) to save a certain goal a few minutes before he was slow to get down to the first goal.

His distribution was also poor but I think credit has to be given to Atalanta, they'd worked out the Liverpool restart strategy, didn't allow the first set of passes to get into midfield and when it goes back to Kelleher he tries to lop in just beyond midfield into the spaces behind the press, but they were there for it and physically much stronger in that area.
Atalanta won midfield throughout the game.

Gakpo had one of his better evenings and it seems he's better suited at picking the ball up in deep areas and then driving forward with it, he's not a hold up type centre forward and neither is he a run off the shoulder lad.

Nunez's wastefulness in front of goal and Salah is just dire at the minute is the main reason Liverpool are in this position.


Can't help but think Kelleher getting extra protection on here as he's  Irish if Raya or Onana concede those goals they are getting pelters. The first goal which is a howler then has a massive impact on game.  Don't see how you can proportion more blame on Salah who came on at ht to a team that was clearly not at themselves.
I think he actually gets extra criticism because he's Irish. From the games I've watched he has been very good recently. One bad mistake from the first goal last night and people are all over him again having a go at him. Not a word then when he puts a string of good performances together. It could have been a worse defeat last night only for some of the saves he made.

Whatever about on this board, Kelleher has been lauded up and down for his performances this season. There's barely been a word about Alisson being missed for the past two months, despite the fact that he's arguably the best keeper on the planet. He is due back in the next game or two and I expect Klopp will put him right back in the team, but Kelleher has been superb overall in his absence, and has actually played more games so far this season than Alisson.


J70

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2024, 09:24:53 AMSalah for whatever reasons is not at the races, that's a fair reflection no?

Could hit a hatful at the weekend. Think Klopp said he didnt think Atalanta were going to be as good? with the title run in he has to rotate, Atalanta not in same position back in Italy so they flogged their players last night. Think they made one change on 88 minutes or something

I'd be an advocate of putting out my strongest team, put the home leg to bed and move on with a lesser tea the next day. Thats probably why I'm not a PL manager  ;D

It's tempting to think that Liverpool COULD turn the tie around, but I'm sure the bookies would give you at least 10/1. Has it ever been done heading away in the second leg?

Still, I think Klopp has to at least try. They're not heading to the Bernebeau like last year. Atalanta were superb, but Liverpool were plainly not ready for what they brought. If they do go there properly prepared and up for it, you never know what could happen if they grab the first goal.

Of course, Liverpool have a habit of NOT grabbing the first goal this season!



trueblue1234

Quote from: J70 on April 12, 2024, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2024, 09:24:53 AMSalah for whatever reasons is not at the races, that's a fair reflection no?

Could hit a hatful at the weekend. Think Klopp said he didnt think Atalanta were going to be as good? with the title run in he has to rotate, Atalanta not in same position back in Italy so they flogged their players last night. Think they made one change on 88 minutes or something

I'd be an advocate of putting out my strongest team, put the home leg to bed and move on with a lesser tea the next day. Thats probably why I'm not a PL manager  ;D

It's tempting to think that Liverpool COULD turn the tie around, but I'm sure the bookies would give you at least 10/1. Has it ever been done heading away in the second leg?

Still, I think Klopp has to at least try. They're not heading to the Bernebeau like last year. Atalanta were superb, but Liverpool were plainly not ready for what they brought. If they do go there properly prepared and up for it, you never know what could happen if they grab the first goal.

Of course, Liverpool have a habit of NOT grabbing the first goal this season!



Would 0-3 down at half time do you? Vague recollection of a game that went that way...
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

From the Bunker

Barcelona came back from 4-0 down to beat PSG in the 2nd leg at home 6-5.

That said it was a late late show with goals from Neymar  88', 90+1' (pen.) and Roberto  90+5'.

It all depend on how afraid Atalanta are of losing the tie.


Armamike

Quote from: johnnycool on April 12, 2024, 09:07:31 AMLiverpool v Atalanta heat map;



 ;D

Absolute horror show.  Hard to know why they were so poor.  Combination of complacency and not ready for what Atalanta would bring?  The worrying thing is that Liverpool weren't able to turn it around to get to grips with Atalanta as the game progressed.  In fact it got progressively worse.  The now usual level of wastefulness didn't help in the first half.  Will be very interesting to see how the game goes against Palace and whether this is a one off or indicator of a slump in form.  Not a good point in the season to start losing form, but hoping that the likes of Jota, Trent and Allison coming back will give things a freshening up.  Salah and Nunes could do with some bench time.
That's just, like your opinion man.