China Coronavirus

[GetOverTheBar]

We are going at a snails pace for reopening
What's the odds when golf courses open we are in the same position as today?
150 cases per day and 0-2 deaths per day.
I really can't see it getting any better
1 million total vaccinations will be very close to hitting the 1 million target by the end of week 1 in April
A great achievement
Another small lockdown next winter is likely
Be ready for it
Milly and the lads will get a few weeks off towards the end of the year

You are probably right, but it would appear Northern Ireland is persuing a zero covid approach (without the tracing to compliment).

I think the approach is manageable hospital admissions and low deaths. I haven't heard one specialist say zero covid, they have all said it is here to stay in some form, and its about bringing down the hospital admissions

They won't say it for a good reason. The last thing Belfast needs is an anti lockdown riot (But some kind of protest is imminent soon I feel).

The executive has been following "worst case scenario" since last March, that's what every decision they make is based on since Robin Swanns now infamous warning "disaster of biblical proportions" gaffe.

It's on the way, I believe and hope this time next month we are pretty much back to normal....Pubs/Nightclubs a little later of course.

As you say above, it's all about reducing admissions - we have over 713k first dose vaccines administered yesterday according to DOH twitter account. So that is basically 50% of the country done, assuming there are some 400k under 18s and about 100k (random plucked figure) who won't get the vaccine / won't take the vaccine. There will be literally no reason to keep the country closed much longer, especially with the DUP by all accounts the only party driving the country back to normality (who would have thought...).

Soon there will be 1million people here of 1.8m vaccinated, if the country is not open by then, Belfast will be wrecked.

Will they have to tidy it up first before they wreck it? 

You win this round!

[Main Street]

Why is there such a fixation in the claimed science of the need for 14 day quarantine for every intl arrival?
A test on arrival  followed by quarantine  for 4 or 5 days, and if a 2nd test  still shows up negative  - release from quarantine should be the norm..
I read in Iceland that since last August  some 77,000  arrivals have been released from quarantine after 4 or  5 days when their 2nd test shows up negative. Not one of those 77k later came to the attention of the Health officials and this is a place where each positive test in the community is tracked and traced to the nth degree.


Out of the 77,000 arrivals who were 2nd tested after 5 days, less that 200 of them tested positive and had to remain in quarantine for the full 14 days.
https://www.covid.is/data

5 days is not long enough, you probably need 7 days to be anyway safe.
As I posted above, people from places without the South African or Brazilian variants can have a test after 5 days.

Is there any research which shows the number of people in quarantine, who tested negative on the first and the the 5th day,  who then went on to test posive in the next two days?

Is there any research which shows that 5 days with 2 tests  is not long enough? 

[armaghniac]

Is there any research which shows the number of people in quarantine, who tested negative on the first and the the 5th day,  who then went on to test posive in the next two days?

Is there any research which shows that 5 days with 2 tests  is not long enough?

Yes, there have been cases of people passing the test at 5 days and then developing Covid after 5 days. The number may not be that large but it still requires the test to be moved out to 7 days.

[trailer]

We are going at a snails pace for reopening
What's the odds when golf courses open we are in the same position as today?
150 cases per day and 0-2 deaths per day.
I really can't see it getting any better
1 million total vaccinations will be very close to hitting the 1 million target by the end of week 1 in April
A great achievement
Another small lockdown next winter is likely
Be ready for it
Milly and the lads will get a few weeks off towards the end of the year

You are probably right, but it would appear Northern Ireland is persuing a zero covid approach (without the tracing to compliment).

I think the approach is manageable hospital admissions and low deaths. I haven't heard one specialist say zero covid, they have all said it is here to stay in some form, and its about bringing down the hospital admissions

They won't say it for a good reason. The last thing Belfast needs is an anti lockdown riot (But some kind of protest is imminent soon I feel).

The executive has been following "worst case scenario" since last March, that's what every decision they make is based on since Robin Swanns now infamous warning "disaster of biblical proportions" gaffe.

It's on the way, I believe and hope this time next month we are pretty much back to normal....Pubs/Nightclubs a little later of course.

As you say above, it's all about reducing admissions - we have over 713k first dose vaccines administered yesterday according to DOH twitter account. So that is basically 50% of the country done, assuming there are some 400k under 18s and about 100k (random plucked figure) who won't get the vaccine / won't take the vaccine. There will be literally no reason to keep the country closed much longer, especially with the DUP by all accounts the only party driving the country back to normality (who would have thought...).

Soon there will be 1million people here of 1.8m vaccinated, if the country is not open by then, Belfast will be wrecked.

Dunno if there will be a riot / protest but I don't know anyone who is still abiding by the regulations and not meeting up.

[GetOverTheBar]

I can see an anti lockdown protest being hijacked by an anti irish seaborder element and what other eejits feel the need to get involved. They are happening regularly enough down South - it's probably only a matter of time before one comes our way.

[Cunny Funt]

ROI weekly update.  First week since January to not have a decrease in cases, mixing on mothers day and St Patricks day played a part in that?

Cases 3864 (320 more than last week)
Reported Deaths 56 (57 fewer than last week)

In hospital 360 (11 more than a week ago)
In ICU 82 (4 fewer than last Sunday)

[sid waddell]

I can see an anti lockdown protest being hijacked by an anti irish seaborder element and what other eejits feel the need to get involved. They are happening regularly enough down South - it's probably only a matter of time before one comes our way.

How could an anti-lockdown demo be "hijacked" by eejits when such demos are by definition eejitry?

[imtommygunn]

Flag protests and no Irish Sea border would probably be the grouping. There's still a flag protest every Saturday at Belfast city hall. I think there are about four or five of them...

[Milltown Row2]

Flag protests and no Irish Sea border would probably be the grouping. There's still a flag protest every Saturday at Belfast city hall. I think there are about four or five of them...

Of them or at them 

Who will the protests be aimed at? Will the UDA be taking their campaign to the UK?

[imtommygunn]

There's supposed to be stuff in the papers today about the loyalist paramilitaries  but haven't read it. Talk of bringing down stormont too. (That makes no sense as they then give power to the people who set up the sea border so I don't know what is hoped to be achieved).

4 or 5 people not protests... They are an "interesting " looking bunch.

[Milltown Row2]

Who's Jamie blaming? It must be so confusing for them

[RedHand88]

There's supposed to be stuff in the papers today about the loyalist paramilitaries  but haven't read it. Talk of bringing down stormont too. (That makes no sense as they then give power to the people who set up the sea border so I don't know what is hoped to be achieved).

4 or 5 people not protests... They are an "interesting " looking bunch.

"The English government will do the right thing" is a quote from it.

They truly have the memory of a goldfish and will never ever learn.

[sid waddell]

It's pretty obvious now the Zero Covid people were right all along

The difference between the Zero Covid countries and Ireland and most of the world was like two footballers doing their cruciate

One decides, "OK, I have a serious injury here, I'm going to get the operation, do my recovery and rehab and slowly build myself back up, and I'll return to training and playing only when the time is right, and come back as strong as I was before the the injury"

That was New Zealand

The other decides "f**k operations, I don't want to miss these important games coming up, f**k my injury, I'm playing"

They're warned by the doctor that this is a bad idea - but in response they say "you just don't get it, I have to play these important matches"

But every time they try to play, they have to hobble off after a couple of minutes, and they keep making the injury worse

That was Ireland and Europe and the US

[imtommygunn]

The measures put in place have only ever been half baked and now there is almost no way out of them.

On a note of the NHS in the north. There are currently ~170 give or take in hospital with covid and the hospital capacity is at 96%. The health service really is creaking here

[6th sam]

The measures put in place have only ever been half baked and now there is almost no way out of them.

On a note of the NHS in the north. There are currently ~170 give or take in hospital with covid and the hospital capacity is at 96%. The health service really is creaking here

Exactly, therein lies the problem