China Coronavirus

[dublin7]

Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)

[trueblue1234]

Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)

Is this definite? Would be great news if true and should put to bed the arguments around the benefits of the vaccine.

[Angelo]

Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)

Is this definite? Would be great news if true and should put to bed the arguments around the benefits of the vaccine.

Dublin7 is a known liar.

[johnnycool]

Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)

Is this definite? Would be great news if true and should put to bed the arguments around the benefits of the vaccine.

That is a game changer if true.

The virus could be eradicated if that's the case providing the developed world work their bollox off to help the developing nations to roll out the vaccine.

[Angelo]

Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)

Is this definite? Would be great news if true and should put to bed the arguments around the benefits of the vaccine.

That is a game changer if true.

The virus could be eradicated if that's the case providing the developed world work their bollox off to help the developing nations to roll out the vaccine.

You think big pharma want to eradicate this virus? 

What we will have is "new strains" and yearly boosters that we will need to get to combat this.

[Smurfy123]

Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I don't think there is a plan b after this

[armaghniac]

Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)

Is this definite? Would be great news if true and should put to bed the arguments around the benefits of the vaccine.

That is a game changer if true.

The virus could be eradicated if that's the case providing the developed world work their bollox off to help the developing nations to roll out the vaccine.

This won't be proven for some months until a lot of data is collected. It also is not quite clear if all vaccines will have the same outcome in this regard. There is other vaccines and associated production coming down the line, this can cater for the whole world and are a bit easier to handle than the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Perhaps one vaccine or some combination of these vaccines will prevent infection and then everyone can get that jab over the next year to close down the disease.

[Angelo]

Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I don't think there is a plan b after this

They threw their eggs into one basket. This vaccine is not the quick fix people expected.

Hard to see any end to the current situation. The governments have failed us once again.

[armaghniac]

Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I don't think there is a plan b after this

They threw their eggs into one basket. This vaccine is not the quick fix people expected.

Hard to see any end to the current situation. The governments have failed us once again.

Stop talking complete manure
There are multiple vaccines of different types, amazingly all of these perform well, some better than could be reasonably expected. These vaccines will greatly improve the situation, stop magnifying every delay and variation into a crisis.

[dublin7]

Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I don't think there is a plan b after this

Where did you see this? I haven't seen any indication that's true when the vaccine is given as per Pfizer's instructions.

Also the Norwegians have confirmed they could find no link between the vaccine and the deaths of elderly people as had been suggested last week

[Ty4Sam]

Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I don't think there is a plan b after this

Where did you see this? I haven't seen any indication that's true when the vaccine is given as per Pfizer's instructions.

Also the Norwegians have confirmed they could find no link between the vaccine and the deaths of elderly people as had been suggested last week

The problem is that the government here in NI are not administering as per Pfizer instructions. They are waiting 12 weeks to give the second dose rather than the recommended 2/3 weeks.

[Angelo]

Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I don't think there is a plan b after this

Where did you see this? I haven't seen any indication that's true when the vaccine is given as per Pfizer's instructions.

Also the Norwegians have confirmed they could find no link between the vaccine and the deaths of elderly people as had been suggested last week

More complete and utter lies. The Norwegians said the deaths were likely to reactions to the vaccine. You are shameful.

[Smurfy123]

Israel cases and deaths going up
Explain that one

[Rossfan]

Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I don't think there is a plan b after this

They threw their eggs into one basket. This vaccine is not the quick fix people expected.

Hard to see any end to the current situation. The governments have failed us once again.

Stop talking complete manure

He'd be posting blanks then

[Milltown Row2]

Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)

Is this definite? Would be great news if true and should put to bed the arguments around the benefits of the vaccine.

That is a game changer if true.

The virus could be eradicated if that's the case providing the developed world work their bollox off to help the developing nations to roll out the vaccine.

Hats off to the big pharmaceutical companies in producing the various different vaccines, a petty  the governments couldn't sort out the roll out.

I'm up tomorrow, most of our company will have it by end of next week.