GAA moneybags and Sean Cavanagh

[JoG2]

My god there are some crying hoors in the GAA who want everything for free, I surely hope they are over represented on this board or the organisation is truely in trouble.

Crying about the price of tickets to games, and the price of diesel to get to games, and how much a feed costs, and having to get a ticket for the wains, and not getting to see every game on FTA tv, and the game they just saw was lateral shite, and the forward mark, and the studio analysis, and negative managers, and people coming to the door selling tickets for their club, and the amount of money the GAA has, and the lack of money the GAA gives our club, ad nauseum ad nauseum ad nauseum.

And then thinking they are great GAA men when they've not ever wore a shirt or even washed a shirt.

I would say the vast majority of posters on here are not even GAA members.

Keyser, in my experience a good auld moan and gripe is the common language of humanity. I've spent plenty of time abroad and worked with many nationalities and the average gaa fan or poster on this board is no different to the majority everywhere else (well west coast USA with their unwavering positivity might be the exception).
And as for your comment on posters probably not being members, I suspect the vast majority of us are pretty involved with gaa at some level. We are the diehards or we wouldn't be on here in the first place. Not that many people find discussions on the kickout strategies of Armagh all that interesting you know....

There certainly are diehards on here but a majority, definitely not.

There was a thread on ticket selling on here recently.

Not only was there just one poster, of the many who contributed to the thread, who had actually gone out to sell tickets, but there were quite a few who were complaining about being asked to buy a ticket by clubs coming to their door, and there were even a few calling for it to be banned.

Like what sort of GAA person would begrudge being ASKED to voluntarily contribute a few quid to the GAA, by a person who is giving up their time to travel around the country to raise funds for their local club. The people selling the tickets are diehards, people whinging about it on Gaaboard are blowhards.

So no I don't agree that a majority are GAA diehards, their diehardness extends to going to county matches and complaining their hole off on GAA board about stuff they probably know very little about.

And yes that would indeed include Armagh kickout strategies

You seem to have a very narrow agenda.

I've:

- played football for 35 years.
- coached and selected at teams from under-8 to senior, including the past 8 years unbroken.
- spent over 15 years on our club committee, including 5 as treasurer.
- served as our county board rep for a couple of years and on a county board subcommittee for a year.
- acted as a team liaison for our county minors for two years.

And my sincere opinion is that if a club from say County Derry cannot find the funds within their own parish, community, town, county to build whatever it they think they need, then they've no business asking people from say County Down to put their hands in their pockets and pay for it.

Am I not GAA enough to be entitled to this opinion?

No issue with you holding that opinion at all.

My opinion would be that the GAA is a national organisation and one which raison d'etre was to promote Irish games and pastimes on a national basis.  (Just checked there - the words Nation/National are mentioned in the preface to the Official Guide 10 times).

My sincerely held opinion is that there should be zero issue with clubs fundraising on a national basis (if practicalities allowed).

I think we should take it as a source of pride that members a club in Antrim would see fit to contribute to a club in Kerry (or vice versa).  Indeed, it is entirely in line with the aims and ethos of the association.

The parish/town/county element of it should be left to the actual games only.

I'd think along these lines too. Wouldn't refuse a seller at the door. In saying that, and jot this down, Derry City is the great untapped city as regards ticket sellers from outside the place. 95% are miserable heurs right enough, but it's a numbers game.
I came 3rd in a South Donegal draw about 15 years ago, wasn't a while pile tbh, and didn't even cash the cheque. (lost it, but that's neither here nor there)

[seafoid]

Any idea what the €500 million refers to?

Yes, he referred to two different groups / lists of commitments - one was in relation to new / improved centres of excellence (with both Armagh and Monaghan getting a mention) and the other to GAA Stadium infrastructure projects - this latter list included Kerry, Tipp, Louth, Meath, Kildare and Antrim.

I don't think adding money to GAA grounds does the games much good. Pairc ui chaoimh is a great warning

[JoG2]

Any idea what the €500 million refers to?

Yes, he referred to two different groups / lists of commitments - one was in relation to new / improved centres of excellence (with both Armagh and Monaghan getting a mention) and the other to GAA Stadium infrastructure projects - this latter list included Kerry, Tipp, Louth, Meath, Kildare and Antrim.

I don't think adding money to GAA grounds does the games much good. Pairc ui chaoimh is a great warning

You don't think Louth, Meath, Kildare and Antrim don't need a help financially??

[Armagh18]

The Athletic Grounds are a credit to Armagh compared to a lot of places imo. A decent stadium is well worth the money.

[onefineday]

The Athletic Grounds are a credit to Armagh compared to a lot of places imo. A decent stadium is well worth the money.

Agree to a point, athletic grounds is indeed a great venue. The problem is the plethora of oversized stadia, particularly munster. Every county should have one decent stadium in keeping with their needs.
What we don't need is pissing competitions by county chairmen based on who's stadium is biggest! Similarly, we don't need clubs trying to outdo one another and pouring funds into unnecessary capital projects, even if the funds have been shamed out of some poor tight hoor from ballyholland!

[Armagh18]

The Athletic Grounds are a credit to Armagh compared to a lot of places imo. A decent stadium is well worth the money.

Agree to a point, athletic grounds is indeed a great venue. The problem is the plethora of oversized stadia, particularly munster. Every county should have one decent stadium in keeping with their needs.
What we don't need is pissing competitions by county chairmen based on who's stadium is biggest! Similarly, we don't need clubs trying to outdo one another and pouring funds into unnecessary capital projects, even if the funds have been shamed out of some poor tight hoor from ballyholland!

What's unnecessary though? Any club thats serious and is fielding men and womens teams needs at least 2 pitches, floodlights and a decent gym. Plenty of teams in the country wouldn't have that.