Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Itchy]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68722308

Nothing will change. Genocide Joe is being widely reported as  "having a call" with Netanyahu today. I expect he will tell him he is a very naughty boy and if he doesn't behave Old Joe will be very cross. Genocide Joe will still then sign off on 100bn dollars of arms because (and I laughed out loud when i heard this on the radio today) these arms are to be used in other areas, not Gaza. like selling Hitler gas and him saying he wasn't going to send it to Auschwitz.

[seafoid]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68722308

Nothing will change. Genocide Joe is being widely reported as  "having a call" with Netanyahu today. I expect he will tell him he is a very naughty boy and if he doesn't behave Old Joe will be very cross. Genocide Joe will still then sign off on 100bn dollars of arms because (and I laughed out loud when i heard this on the radio today) these arms are to be used in other areas, not Gaza. like selling Hitler gas and him saying he wasn't going to send it to  Auschwitz.

Things are changing in the UK

James O'Brien  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyaE2tAKEsE
UK experts https://twitter.com/BeckettUnite/status/1775780812727660652
UK questions https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1775572848876093650

Nick Ferrari was on ITV with Gyles Brandreth egging on Israel a few months ago
Nick Ferrari https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPfFmq5T0pg

[Itchy]

The only ones that matter are the Yanks

[seafoid]

The only ones that matter are the Yanks

The EU trade deal is the most important economic link that Israel has. If the Brits are turning the Euros will later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9-5GJvzmgM

[Itchy]

Norman Finkelstein...

STARVE OR LEAVE

Let's cut to the chase: of course Israel deliberately targeted the WCK relief convoy. Not only do all the material facts point to this conclusion. There also aren't any grounds to doubt it; the heavy burden of proof falls on Israel to demonstrate that it was not a premeditated strike. On October 8, 2023, Israel announced a total blockade of Gaza: no food, fuel, water, or electricity would be allowed in. The rationale behind this order was laid out by former Israeli National Security Council head Giora Eiland: "Israel should not allow any economic assistance. The people should be told that they have two choices: to stay and to starve, or to leave." For the next two weeks, Israel blocked the entry of any aid into Gaza. Flagrant mass murder not being a good look, President Biden counseled Prime Minister Netanyahu to lighten up a bit. Israel tweaked its murder plan so as to pass muster with its enablers in Washington. But it did not alter the essence of its game-plan. Human Rights Watch documented in December that Israel was "using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare." Normally reticent senior international and humanitarian officials have in recent weeks openly charged that "Starvation is used as a weapon of war. Israel is provoking famine." (Josop Borrell, EU foreign policy chief) If—as everyone seems to agree—Israel's declared objective is to starve Gaza's civilian population, then: HOW COULD IT NOT PLUG THE HOLES IN ITS MURDER PLAN BY TARGETING INTERNATIONAL RELIEF ORGANIZATIONS? And in fact it's mission accomplished: international aid operations in Gaza have largely ceased "as a result of recent attacks on humanitarian workers by the IDF." ("Letter to the White House and National Security Council," April 4, 2024) But it might be wondered: Wasn't it foolhardy for Israel to risk international opprobrium? Not at all. Israel has targeted by various metrics an historically unprecedented number of hospitals, medics, journalists, and aid workers; it has killed an unprecedented number of women and children. It is ever testing the limits of the permissible. So far, it's successfully crossed every downward threshold into barbarism with impunity. It's impossible to predict in advance which story will be picked up by the fickle international media and which story will just get passing notice. The latest atrocity could just as easily have been subsumed in a paragraph on the inside pages under the title "Aid workers killed in Gaza." The only error Israel might have—it's too soon to tell—committed was anticipating that it would get another free pass. Indeed, Israel's news bureau in the US, the New York Times, is already spinning the story to exonerate Israel: "botched operation ... mistakes and misjudgments ... accidental killing." ("Back-to-Back Israeli Strikes Show Tragic Gaps in Choosing Targets," April 4, 2024) It's also being said that it's not senior Israeli officials but on the contrary IDF field commanders and soldiers who are out of control, or that Israel's resort to AI is behind the hecatomb in Gaza. That's all bullshit. During its periodic "mowing-the-lawn" hi-tech murder sprees in Gaza (Operation Cast Lead, Operation Protective Edge), Israel has always used DISCRIMINATELY INDISCRIMINATE firepower to terrorize Gaza's civilian population into submission. The nub of the problem is neither disciplinary nor technical. It's Israel's murder plan: to make Gaza unlivable and to force its people to decide—starve or leave.

[armaghniac]

Theresa Villiers on TV arguing that Israel are doing their best. Quelle surprise.

[seafoid]

The Israelis closed the borders . I read somewhere that there were 7000 trucks waiting on the Egypt side  . Israel neutralised UNRWA,  the organisation that distribute food, runs schools etc  . Biden introduced WCK as a replacement and Israel hit their convoy surgically 3 times.Israel is the heart of darkness.

[johnnycool]

The Israelis closed the borders . I read somewhere that there were 7000 trucks waiting on the Egypt side  . Israel neutralised UNRWA,  the organisation that distribute food, runs schools etc  . Biden introduced WCK as a replacement and Israel hit their convoy surgically 3 times.Israel is the heart of darkness.

IDF made a terrible mistake it seems.

That mistake was killing three Brits, a Yank and an Aussie.

30,000 Palestinian men, woman and children was OK though.

Western morals in a nutshell.

[marty34]

The Israelis closed the borders . I read somewhere that there were 7000 trucks waiting on the Egypt side  . Israel neutralised UNRWA,  the organisation that distribute food, runs schools etc  . Biden introduced WCK as a replacement and Israel hit their convoy surgically 3 times.Israel is the heart of darkness.

IDF made a terrible mistake it seems.

That mistake was killing three Brits, a Yank and an Aussie.

30,000 Palestinian men, woman and children was OK though.

Western morals in a nutshell.

Was thinking that this morning when I was listening to the news.

Some noise over the murder of these aid workers and rightly so, but the murder and genocide of the people in Palestine doesn't matter.

[Rossfan]

Yep, in a nutshell alright.

("Good God they're killing white people" "We can't be having that")

[seafoid]

The Israelis closed the borders . I read somewhere that there were 7000 trucks waiting on the Egypt side  . Israel neutralised UNRWA,  the organisation that distribute food, runs schools etc  . Biden introduced WCK as a replacement and Israel hit their convoy surgically 3 times.Israel is the heart of darkness.

IDF made a terrible mistake it seems.

That mistake was killing three Brits, a Yank and an Aussie.

30,000 Palestinian men, woman and children was OK though.

Western morals in a nutshell.

What counts with Israel is the pattern, not the individual episode.
Israel has no respect for Palestinian life.
https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1776136521671672110
https://twitter.com/Thehopper7/status/1775879170477686800
 https://rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22376164/

All of the hospitals have been destroyed

Germany didn't want to cut off trade links with Russia
Germany doesn't want to cut off links with Israel either
But they won't have a choice.

Israel cannot be fixed

[Itchy]

The Israelis closed the borders . I read somewhere that there were 7000 trucks waiting on the Egypt side  . Israel neutralised UNRWA,  the organisation that distribute food, runs schools etc  . Biden introduced WCK as a replacement and Israel hit their convoy surgically 3 times.Israel is the heart of darkness.

IDF made a terrible mistake it seems.

That mistake was killing three Brits, a Yank and an Aussie.

30,000 Palestinian men, woman and children was OK though.

Western morals in a nutshell.

I understand that 169 aid workers have now been killed. It's a pity a journalist wouldn't ask them if these recent ones are the only tragic ones.

They've done this before, nothing will change.

[Orior]

So Israel made a mistake which resulted in a number of aid workers being killed.

I wonder how many other mistakes that they made which resulted in multiple deaths?

[Rossfan]

Will they be handing the "sacked officers" over to the Hague for a war crimes trial?

[armaghniac]

Good graphic posted on Slugger