Roscommon v Mayo Connacht final 2011

[spuds]

anyone any stats on wides/frees/kickouts won etc.

Wides Roscommon 9 Mayo 7
Frees awarded Roscommon 20 Mayo 23
Midfield clean/breaks won Roscommon 21 Mayo 14
Scoring chances Roscommon 11/24 Mayo 13/23

Where did you get those Stats?

Them stats are what TV3 had at end of match

[Tubberman]

anyone any stats on wides/frees/kickouts won etc.

Wides Roscommon 9 Mayo 7
Frees awarded Roscommon 20 Mayo 23
Midfield clean/breaks won Roscommon 21 Mayo 14
Scoring chances Roscommon 11/24 Mayo 13/23

Where did you get those Stats?

Them stats are what TV3 had at end of match

Bit surprised at the midfield stat - I didn't think it was 60/40 in favour of Ros. I thought they won more clean ball than we did, but that we more than held our own on breaks.
They didn't give a stat for turnovers did they?

[kevmy]

anyone any stats on wides/frees/kickouts won etc.

Wides Roscommon 9 Mayo 7
Frees awarded Roscommon 20 Mayo 23
Midfield clean/breaks won Roscommon 21 Mayo 14
Scoring chances Roscommon 11/24 Mayo 13/23

Where did you get those Stats?

Them stats are what TV3 had at end of match

Bit surprised at the midfield stat - I didn't think it was 60/40 in favour of Ros. I thought they won more clean ball than we did, but that we more than held our own on breaks.
They didn't give a stat for turnovers did they?

I'm not surprised by that midfield stat at all. We didn't do nearly as well at midfield as we did against Galway. But we did harry and hassle around there and I think you could be right about turnovers - we picked off a good few of them

[Lar Naparka]

I find those stats very interesting indeed.
For starters, I was struck by the low number of wides.
Given the conditions, it was remarkable that both teams had so few of them.
The number of frees awarded were more or less the same for each side.  A total of 43 wasn't remarkable either. With players slipping and sliding all over the place, Collins could have awarded a lot more.  I didn't notice particular bias in his decisions—I felt he should have made more allowances for the conditions and let the game flow a bit more. Maybe he was right to blow up early at times to stop a free for all developing; he was a lot closer to the action than I was.  Under the circumstances, I think he did an adequate job.
I also think the midfield stats are fairly accurate. Roscommon won more possession in this sector but Mayo made better use of the it when they won it.

[moysider]

Changed times indeed. Maybe I m reading too much into it but those stats might be an indication that things are changing for the better. Not too long a ago Mayo used to have to dominate midfield to have any chance of winning. In fact on occasion back in the pomp of Willie Joe, The Big Man, TJ and Maher we d sometimes lose after lording it 70/30ish such was our recklessness with the ball. Days like 93 we could hold our own in midfield but get punished by 20 points like we did v Cork due to complete clueness as regards selection and tactics and bad preparation.

[ross matt]

anyone any stats on wides/frees/kickouts won etc.

Wides Roscommon 9 Mayo 7
Frees awarded Roscommon 20 Mayo 23
Midfield clean/breaks won Roscommon 21 Mayo 14
Scoring chances Roscommon 11/24 Mayo 13/23

Depressing stats from a Rossie point of view in terms of poor use of possession but on a positive it does show we were competitive and with more intelligent play the next day (and hopefully better weather) we could score alot more. I think if there was a stat for midfield turnovers Mayo would score highly as they surrounded Finneran effectively many times when we won clean ball without fouling him resulting in him having to cough up possession.

[ross4life]

anyone any stats on wides/frees/kickouts won etc.

Wides Roscommon 9 Mayo 7
Frees awarded Roscommon 20 Mayo 23
Midfield clean/breaks won Roscommon 21 Mayo 14
Scoring chances Roscommon 11/24 Mayo 13/23

Disappointing when you see stats like those, i'd say of all the midfielders Finneran won the most clean ball, far cry from 2009 when he couldn't cope with the Mayo midfield & was taken off on 50mins. In the end lack of discipline (especially from a certain sub) cost us the game.

[StoneWall]

Can anyone fill in the missing Mayo Connacht final winning captains?

1981 - Martin Carney
1985 - Henry Gavin
1988 -
1989 - Jimmy Browne
1992 - Kevin Beirne
1993 -
1996 - Noel Connelly
1997 - Noel Connelly
1999 - Kenneth Mortimer
2004 - Fergal Costello/Gary Ruane
2006 - David Heaney
2009 - Trevor Mortimer
2011 - Alan Dillon

[ross4life]

TJ Kilgallon one of the years?

[macdanger2]

Can anyone fill in the missing Mayo Connacht final winning captains?

1981 - Martin Carney
1985 - Henry Gavin
1988 -
1989 - Jimmy Browne
1992 - Kevin Beirne
1993 -
1996 - Noel Connelly
1997 - Noel Connelly
1999 - Kenneth Mortimer
2004 - Fergal Costello/Gary Ruane
2006 - David Heaney
2009 - Trevor Mortimer
2011 - Alan Dillon

I think 1993 might have been Peter Butler (Knockmore won the county championship in '92) but he was injured, not sure who deputised.

I think Ballina won the championship in '87 so I presume it was a townie who was captain in '88 - McStay? Browne? McHale?

[StoneWall]

TJ Kilgallon one of the years?

I can't recall if he did or not. Dermot Flanagan also crossed my mind as being a winning captain. I'll have to go to the attic for the old programmes!

I think 1993 might have been Peter Butler (Knockmore won the county championship in '92) but he was injured, not sure who deputised.

I think Ballina won the championship in '87 so I presume it was a townie who was captain in '88 - McStay? Browne? McHale?

I thought it may have been Peter Butler in 1993 but not sure. I didn't think Mayo ever used the county champions captaincy rule?

[StoneWall]

The following were the teams if it triggers anyone's memory...

FINAL: Roscommon 0-8 Mayo 1-12 (Hyde Park, 24/7/1988). MAYO: E Lavin; J Browne, M Collins, D Kearney; F Noone, D Flanagan (0-2 from frees), J Finn; TJ Kilgallon (0-1), S Maher; M Butler (0-1, a free), L McHale (0-1), N Durcan (0-1); T Reilly (1-1), T Morgan, M Carney (0-4). Subs: J Burke (0-1) for Morgan, WJ Padden for Carney.

Was it Frank Noone or Denis Kearney?

FINAL: Roscommon 0-7 Mayo 1-5 (Hyde Park, 25/7/1993). MAYO: G Irwin; K Beirne, K Cahill, D Flanagan; A McGarry, P Holmes, J Finn; L McHale, S Maher; K O'Neill (0-3, one a free), K Staunton (0-1), T Morley; N Durcan, R Dempsey (1-1), PJ Loftus. Subs: TJ Kilgallon for Finn, A Finnerty for Loftus, T Tierney for Morley.

Looks like Peter Butler played no part in 1993.

[macdanger2]

PB broke his leg in '93 I think but as far as I know, he was captain.

[westmayo]

no presentation pic, but some action shots from that final. http://www.inpho.ie/assignment/xA39zZ0IHyVzMT7V88BTLw..a
One of them has a load of boys sitting on the roof of the small terrace roof on the roadside of the Hyde, they wouldn't have last a minute the last day up there

[muppet]

An Spailpín has a picture from the match that gives an idea how strong the wind was: http://spailpin.blogspot.com/