21st century issues. Wondering how the GAA manages a situation where kids are from a family where the parents have split up. Kids with mother in County A during the week where they go to schools and then with Dad in County B during weekends.
Can they be a member of a club in each county? Which club should they be a member of by GAA law? Have the GAA any provision for such a set up which most surely becoming more and more prominent?
Any info appreciated.
Can you not be a member of any club, anywhere as long as you pay the fees involved?
Playing member is obviously a different situation.
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on January 04, 2018, 01:49:23 PM
Can you not be a member of any club, anywhere as long as you pay the fees involved?
Playing member is obviously a different situation.
I'm referring to playing member at underage level.
Can't be a member of more than one club i believe
Quote from: Itchy on January 04, 2018, 01:51:40 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on January 04, 2018, 01:49:23 PM
Can you not be a member of any club, anywhere as long as you pay the fees involved?
Playing member is obviously a different situation.
I'm referring to playing member at underage level.
1 Club. Any transfer would need to go through Croke Park.
Its not really an issue. A child will be in the custody of one parent mainly to facilitate school so I would imagine that is where they would be best to join. Mostly it seems to be the mother that is the guardian. If the child stays for large parts of the summer holidays with the other parent then they would be entitled to train with them and I suspect play in blitzes as well up to U10 level though not 100% on this last part.
But they cannot play competitively - U12 up - for more than one club.
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 04, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
Its not really an issue. A child will be in the custody of one parent mainly to facilitate school so I would imagine that is where they would be best to join. Mostly it seems to be the mother that is the guardian. If the child stays for large parts of the summer holidays with the other parent then they would be entitled to train with them and I suspect play in blitzes as well up to U10 level though not 100% on this last part.
But they cannot play competitively - U12 up - for more than one club.
I've a complicated issue. Parents don't speak. Kid is in County A with mother. Father in county B has repeatedly registered kid in a club in that county unknown to mother. Kid trains with club in County A but now cannot play but when he goes to the father he can play down there. I was hoping the GAA had maybe seen this type of thing before and had some allowance (given we are talking about kids) but obviously not.
Quote from: haranguerer on January 04, 2018, 02:06:18 PM
Can't be a member of more than one club i believe
not true
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 05, 2018, 01:54:09 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 04, 2018, 02:06:18 PM
Can't be a member of more than one club i believe
not true
Is it the case that you can be a member of more than one club BUT you cannot be a PLAYING member of more than one club (in each code)?
Quote from: westbound on January 05, 2018, 03:30:58 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 05, 2018, 01:54:09 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 04, 2018, 02:06:18 PM
Can't be a member of more than one club i believe
not true
Is it the case that you can be a member of more than one club BUT you cannot be a PLAYING member of more than one club (in each code)?
Is the code relevant?
For example, if the kid is playing hurling in one county with one club and football in another county with another club is that ok?
If daddy enrols his young buck in Sligo and Mammy enrols him up in Roscommon who'll know?
Buck plays for Elphin U12s and Tourlestrane U12s?
Quote from: Rossfan on January 05, 2018, 03:34:51 PM
If daddy enrols his young buck in Sligo and Mammy enrols him up in Roscommon who'll know?
Buck plays for Elphin U12s and Tourlestrane U12s?
You'd think not but what if Tourlestrane beat say Tubbercurry in a county final and the lads situation is known to them. They appeal and you lose the game. I'm afraid that goes on.
Rules is Rules as they say......
I thought it was purely one club per person with a caveat in terms of codes.
EG if the lad is playing hurling for a hurling only club, but football with a football-only club that is OK as far as I know.
Even training and blitzes would mean that the kid isn't fully covered in terms of insurance at both clubs.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 05, 2018, 05:08:01 PM
I thought it was purely one club per person with a caveat in terms of codes.
EG if the lad is playing hurling for a hurling only club, but football with a football-only club that is OK as far as I know.
Even training and blitzes would mean that the kid isn't fully covered in terms of insurance at both clubs.
This is correct. In Ferbane the lads who play football play for Ferbane, while lads who hurl do so for Belmont.
The sanction rules hold only inside the county. Cant play different codes in 2 counties AFAIA
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 05, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 05, 2018, 05:08:01 PM
I thought it was purely one club per person with a caveat in terms of codes.
EG if the lad is playing hurling for a hurling only club, but football with a football-only club that is OK as far as I know.
Even training and blitzes would mean that the kid isn't fully covered in terms of insurance at both clubs.
This is correct. In Ferbane the lads who play football play for Ferbane, while lads who hurl do so for Belmont.
But I dont think they can hurl for any club other than their nearest one?
Clann na nGael people play hurling for Southern Gaels in Westmeath.
Lots of North Ros people played hurling for Carrick.
I remember reading this at the time. Niall Deasy from Ballyhea, Co. Clare played league hurling for Parnells in Dublin but championship for Ballyhea
http://amp.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/dual-club-role-has-helped-me-says-niall-deasy-441515.html
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2018, 06:46:04 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 05, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 05, 2018, 05:08:01 PM
I thought it was purely one club per person with a caveat in terms of codes.
EG if the lad is playing hurling for a hurling only club, but football with a football-only club that is OK as far as I know.
Even training and blitzes would mean that the kid isn't fully covered in terms of insurance at both clubs.
This is correct. In Ferbane the lads who play football play for Ferbane, while lads who hurl do so for Belmont.
But I dont think they can hurl for any club other than their nearest one?
John Ryan played football with Shannon bridge and hurled with banagher even though Belmont was closer.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 05, 2018, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2018, 06:46:04 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 05, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 05, 2018, 05:08:01 PM
I thought it was purely one club per person with a caveat in terms of codes.
EG if the lad is playing hurling for a hurling only club, but football with a football-only club that is OK as far as I know.
Even training and blitzes would mean that the kid isn't fully covered in terms of insurance at both clubs.
This is correct. In Ferbane the lads who play football play for Ferbane, while lads who hurl do so for Belmont.
But I dont think they can hurl for any club other than their nearest one?
John Ryan played football with Shannon bridge and hurled with banagher even though Belmont was closer.
He originally hurled with Belmont, but moved(transferred is the wrong word, as neither were his club) to St Rynaghs as Belmont were up to nothing at the time. He was also living in Banagher if I'm not mistaken. That was one of the grounds on which the move was granted.
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2018, 11:15:39 AM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 04, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
Its not really an issue. A child will be in the custody of one parent mainly to facilitate school so I would imagine that is where they would be best to join. Mostly it seems to be the mother that is the guardian. If the child stays for large parts of the summer holidays with the other parent then they would be entitled to train with them and I suspect play in blitzes as well up to U10 level though not 100% on this last part.
But they cannot play competitively - U12 up - for more than one club.
Poor kid, if his Parents had the decency to do the right thing and ask the child which they'd prefer, and then ensure he got to train/play with that club regardless of who's custody weekend it is, everyone would be better off.
I've a complicated issue. Parents don't speak. Kid is in County A with mother. Father in county B has repeatedly registered kid in a club in that county unknown to mother. Kid trains with club in County A but now cannot play but when he goes to the father he can play down there. I was hoping the GAA had maybe seen this type of thing before and had some allowance (given we are talking about kids) but obviously not.
I've done a bit more digging. There is a truly gaa solution being applied to this situation all around the county. Ignore it as no one will know as their is no central database.
That's what I'd have suspected alright.
Quote from: Itchy on January 06, 2018, 08:52:26 PM
I've done a bit more digging. There is a truly gaa solution being applied to this situation all around the county. Ignore it as no one will know as their is no central database.
There is a central database..............
Quote from: Orchard park on January 06, 2018, 10:11:53 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 06, 2018, 08:52:26 PM
I've done a bit more digging. There is a truly gaa solution being applied to this situation all around the county. Ignore it as no one will know as their is no central database.
There is a central database..............
It's not criss checking names and dobs that I've ever heard off.