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#301
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 23, 2017, 10:36:48 PM
 Why Oh Why do they keep making us a laughing stock throughout the GAA world? Should have said nothing and do our talking on the field of play against Meath on Saturday.Disappointing behaviour by our County Board.
#302
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 22, 2017, 07:50:40 PM
Quiet before the storm?
#303
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 17, 2017, 10:03:47 PM
#304
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 17, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
Quote from: Targetman on February 16, 2017, 10:00:29 PM
Can anyone confirm that big Downey from Drumgath availed of the January transfer window and moved to Bryansford?
Was there a fee involved?  :)
#305
GAA Discussion / Re: Down Football-where to now.....?
February 15, 2017, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 15, 2017, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on June 29, 2016, 11:41:04 AM
Tradition ,  pedigree... doesn't wash any more.  Hard work from youth up, does.
When Down get motoring again pedigree will matter. Monaghan couldn't turn a good team into All Ireland medals . Down can.
A trip to the Vet may be required to establish where this pedigree has gone?
#306
GAA Discussion / Re: Down Football-where to now.....?
February 15, 2017, 05:27:24 PM
  Time to open this up again.
   Can we apply for help from Brussels as technically us Nordies are still in the EU?
#307
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 15, 2017, 05:20:30 PM
Quote from: Dubh driocht on February 15, 2017, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on February 15, 2017, 12:05:20 PM
Irish News reporting Burns had a row with a County Board official?? We really are becoming the joke of Gaelic Football

Actually, the Irish News is reporting the opposite; i.e. Sean Rooney denying the report in the Independent that there was a row with a County Board official.
I believe the Chairman is telling the truth; while the man in the hat was in a meeting with management team at halftime, I saw no evidence of a row- unless someone who was in the huddle is leaking information that there was a row.
Passedit, I think you are on the money with the reference to Kubler Ross; the five stages are; denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Unfortunately the county executive and management are still between one and two; the rest of us are between four and five.
Dubh driocht, you were there.Did you see anything?
#308
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 15, 2017, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on February 15, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
Old news mourne red where have you been?
A full scale argument on the side of the pitch at half time with a county board official and management
I take it the county board official was telling him to get Maginn Mckernan O Hanlon Johnstone etc on
who was the CB Official? The man in the hat?
#309
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 14, 2017, 05:22:01 PM
Quote from: wobbller on February 14, 2017, 11:35:12 AM
From the independent.ie

Down's season threatens to go from bad to worse, with a number of players understood to be considering walking away from Eamonn Burns' squad, following a number of walkouts last week.
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The Mourne county are already in turmoil after losing their opening two National League fixtures, to Fermanagh by nine points and Clare by six; they are bottom of Division 2 with an in-form Meath coming next to Newry.
After the Clare defeat, a number of Kilcoo players did not travel home on the team bus and there is rumour that their actions could be met with punishment.

This follows Thursday night's training session where a player-walkout followed the announcement of the team to play in Ennis.
Turmoil within teams is not unusual, but mid-season heaves are rare. However, it appears that the feeling in Down could be strong enough that stormy days lie ahead for the playing panel, management and county board.

Already, Damian Turley - brother of vice-captain Peter - Ryan Mallon and Gary McMahon have departed the panel, citing dissatisfaction with the management team.
It is understood that the Kilcoo contingent have already consulted with their club manager Paul McIver on whether to remain with the county, with McIver urging them to stay.

The defeat in Ennis also brought an embarrassing scene at half-time with a county board member witnessed having an argument with members of the management team.
Afterwards, while the Clare team went into a huddle on the pitch, the Down players could not be convinced to do the same, making for the dressing-rooms.

The loss on Sunday made it 14 straight defeats for Down in League and Championship, since they beat Laois in a Division 2 fixture on April 5, 2015.
That win brought them back to the top flight under Jim McCorry. However, after that, they lost the Division 2 final to Roscommon, before bowing out of the Ulster Championship with a narrow defeat to Derry, followed by a qualifiers exit to Wexford.

In the ensuing fall-out, the Down county executive recommended to the county board that McCorry and his management team should be voted out. McCorry survived the vote by delegates, but subsequently departed anyway, lamenting the lack of support from the executive.
Despite having plenty of time to choose McCorry's successor, the board only appointed Eamonn Burns on November 5 - without having a backroom team in place.

Since then, Down have gone through arguably their worst run of results, failing to win a single game in Division 1 last year and ending up with the worst scoring difference in all four leagues on minus 60.
In the Ulster Championship, Down slumped to a record defeat in Clones at the hands of Monaghan.

There has also been disquiet among the panel at the treatment of respected players.
Conor Laverty was not recalled after captaining the side in 2015. Mark Poland, considered one of the better forwards in the province, has yet to make a match-day panel of 26. Niall Madine has not been brought back despite showing good form for Queen's in the McKenna Cup.
Madine must have got a transfer from UUJ to Queens :D
   
#310
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 14, 2017, 08:42:55 AM
Quote from: interested on February 14, 2017, 01:55:51 AM
From the gospel that is the Irish News,Cahir has done his homework on this article,plenty of what must be insider info; I read the Irish News Stateside every night after the children go to bed.Down should enter the Connaught Championship and play us once a year.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/2017/02/14/news/cahair-o-kane-burns-can-t-be-excused-but-down-s-malaise-runs-much-deeper-931084/
It's hardly inside info when the world and their Granny know the issues except the the ones on the County Board.
  As for Downjim's suggestions.Say nothing.The 2 b's 'holland and 'martin,can hold them tight and don't let go PLEASE
#311
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 13, 2017, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on February 13, 2017, 10:50:24 AM
What or who is your suggestion then Samfever?

I have to say its bloody surreal to see all the chat around this in here.
The whole thing is a disgrace on so many levels.
Either of the Jim's.McGuinness or Gavin of which there is no chance.

Time for an Emergency meeting of our County Board.We cannot stand idly by
at this time! Heads need to roll either voluntarily or by the democratic process.
#312
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 13, 2017, 09:36:35 AM
Quote from: downjim on February 13, 2017, 12:58:25 AM
Frank Dawson is also another option
Another journey man to replace the bundle of them that are there at present.Go ask Tullylish,Rostrevor and Saul and see their views on three of the leading lights of our current set-up and ask what these men have done for their respective Clubs both on the field and out of the Bank Account? Dawson is similar this past 3 or 4 years.
#313
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 12, 2017, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on February 12, 2017, 10:24:40 PM
I'd have wee james or paddy o'rourke back in a heartbeat. One thing is for sure the current malaise cant be allowed to continue. we are nowhere near as bad as the current situation but unfortunately at the minute we are the laughing stock of the country and something needs to change. After going 11 league and championship games without a win I think its obvious that the current management isn't working. Change needed.
But will happen to some to the "paid"" help if Burns steps asides or is asked to leave?
#314
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 09, 2017, 01:48:32 PM
  out in front,I see you're down to visit us in May in Div2.How's pre-season?
#315
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 09, 2017, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: outinfront on February 09, 2017, 09:51:23 AM
Sam Fever I don't really get the point you are trying to make? You appear to be arguing against my post but I'm not entirely sure why?
Are you defending burns and questioning the players? It's not clear.
To clarify, It is obvious that things are not going well and that we have been on a slide for a while.  I have alluded to the Fermanagh situation where obvious improvement has occurred. Fitness is good, strategy is good, players are playing well and confidence is high.
I do not believe things are going well with Down (our competitive record since promotion to div1 clearly supports that) but I do believe we should continue to support. That does not mean we can't have grievances with the current situation.
I wasn't really arguing against your posts,I was more trying to understand your position which you now have clearly done so.