The future of laois hurling

Started by Tobias, October 27, 2015, 08:08:58 PM

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Verbal

I think they are proposing 12 because it's safe to assume that will fail.
10 was too risky- it might have passed.

I think 6 would be a poor move.
The only benefit being that we'd be strong in Leinster Intermediate. Hardly the be all & end all.

We have 8 teams. It works as a number.
No need to change that.
But I do think the CB have strongly influenced the proposal of 12 being on the table- Safe in the knowledge that it would be a lot more likely to fail than 10!

SpeculativeEffort

Quote from: Verbal on November 16, 2023, 09:08:08 PMI think they are proposing 12 because it's safe to assume that will fail.
10 was too risky- it might have passed.

I think 6 would be a poor move.
The only benefit being that we'd be strong in Leinster Intermediate. Hardly the be all & end all.

We have 8 teams. It works as a number.
No need to change that.
But I do think the CB have strongly influenced the proposal of 12 being on the table- Safe in the knowledge that it would be a lot more likely to fail than 10!

With both proposals significantly inferior to what we have already, I've no issue with that. All Championships have peaks on troughs. I think we are just out of a trough and the next few years will be better fare.

Laois man

If they go with 10 teams what 2 teams will come up.?

SpeculativeEffort

Presumably Portlaoise as PIHC champions and Ballyfin as finalists while BK would not be relegated.

burdizzo

Lads, the 10-team option is specifically not proposed. It's either eight, as now, or the fairly convoluted 12-team set-up. Personally, I favour the status quo.

Laois man

The 10 team option is gone back to the clubs to vote on I believe.

burdizzo

Oh, really? That's not what Laois Today reported?

Verbal

Quote from: burdizzo on November 17, 2023, 09:40:25 PMLads, the 10-team option is specifically not proposed. It's either eight, as now, or the fairly convoluted 12-team set-up. Personally, I favour the status quo.

That's my understanding too.
I don't want more than 8.
But I do think this appears underhand.

Basically- Give them 2 ridiculous options to ensure they don't change from 8!

Laois man

Only going what I was told by a person who was at the meeting.

Laois man

But lads we have 16 senior football team and county board feels that's OK 6 of them won't win the intermediate Cship but10 teams in the hurling is too many.

Downtheroad

Offaly have 10 teams with Kilcormac/Killoughy 2nd team winning the Senior B. The same is likely to happen in Laois with 10 teams and definitely 12. Camross and Rathdowney/Errill are well capable of winning a weaker 2nd tier. A handful of clubs are pushing 10 teams to give them a safety net.   

Laois man

Safety net? If your not god enough you will go down

SpeculativeEffort

Quote from: Laois man on November 17, 2023, 11:26:43 PMBut lads we have 16 senior football team and county board feels that's OK 6 of them won't win the intermediate Cship but10 teams in the hurling is too many.

Just because we have one of the weakest, piss poor football championships, it doesn't mean we need to mess up the hurling.
8 is the right number at the moment.
Changing it now would be an embarrassment for BK.

Earn your stripes.

Spiritof1915

A strong proposal was put to the county board on the night for a slight tweak to the 8 team championship.
Top team in each group straight thru to semi
2nd teams straight thru to Qf
3rd and 4th teams play each other in a preliminary Qf with winners obviously thru to Qf against 2nd placed teams.
Losers playing off in relegation final.
I think it's the best proposal. Teams will have 2 chances to avoid relegation if that's not enough the relevant teams deserves to go down.
Hope the county board considers it seriously.

Verbal

Quote from: Spiritof1915 on November 18, 2023, 11:00:11 AMA strong proposal was put to the county board on the night for a slight tweak to the 8 team championship.
Top team in each group straight thru to semi
2nd teams straight thru to Qf
3rd and 4th teams play each other in a preliminary Qf with winners obviously thru to Qf against 2nd placed teams.
Losers playing off in relegation final.
I think it's the best proposal. Teams will have 2 chances to avoid relegation if that's not enough the relevant teams deserves to go down.
Hope the county board considers it seriously.

I don't like this.
If a team trying to make a breakthrough beats someone more established & finishes above them, you might have to beat them again a week later.
E.g. from this year would be Castletown & Borris Kilcotton.

Has anyone ever explained what the problem was with the previous open draw style system?