The DUP thread

[Armagh18]

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

Can I not read or does that quote say "this is not illegal"

[trailer]

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

The Tellers are the "volunteers" from the party.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

I don't know if it's allowed or not but the parties definitely know who still has to vote on election day. Come 6pm on polling day they are all over the place trying to round up people to get them to the polling station.

[SaffronSports]

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

That's a teller. They'll stand outside the gates and count people going in.

What I'm talking about is a Polling Agent. We literally have to set up a table for them and leave a copy (a different colour to the real one) of the electoral register on that table. They aren't allowed to take it out of the polling station and it gets taken back to the main polling centre after polls closed but they have access to that thing from 7am -10pm. They have to be known in advance and when they arrive they show ID to the Polling Station manager and they have to keep a log throughout the day of who comes and goes be it polling agents, police, electoral staff or any other information like if someone tries to vote that's maybe done a proxy or postal vote etc.

[tbrick18]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-68105094

Poots publicly stating that the DUP are not traitors. Shows the pressure they are under that they have to explicitly call this out.
Unionism imploding again.

[Keyser soze]

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

That's a teller. They'll stand outside the gates and count people going in.

What I'm talking about is a Polling Agent. We literally have to set up a table for them and leave a copy (a different colour to the real one) of the electoral register on that table. They aren't allowed to take it out of the polling station and it gets taken back to the main polling centre after polls closed but they have access to that thing from 7am -10pm. They have to be known in advance and when they arrive they show ID to the Polling Station manager and they have to keep a log throughout the day of who comes and goes be it polling agents, police, electoral staff or any other information like if someone tries to vote that's maybe done a proxy or postal vote etc.

I stand corrected!

I'm aware that saying so goes completely against the whole ethos of the discussion board, if not SM sites in general lol

[SaffronSports]

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

That's a teller. They'll stand outside the gates and count people going in.

What I'm talking about is a Polling Agent. We literally have to set up a table for them and leave a copy (a different colour to the real one) of the electoral register on that table. They aren't allowed to take it out of the polling station and it gets taken back to the main polling centre after polls closed but they have access to that thing from 7am -10pm. They have to be known in advance and when they arrive they show ID to the Polling Station manager and they have to keep a log throughout the day of who comes and goes be it polling agents, police, electoral staff or any other information like if someone tries to vote that's maybe done a proxy or postal vote etc.

I stand corrected!

I'm aware that saying so goes completely against the whole ethos of the discussion board, if not SM sites in general lol

😂 An inspiration to all my friend.

[Ed Ricketts]

Seems Donaldson has calculated he finally has enough support to push them back into Stormont. Big meeting on Monday to lay it all out. Maybe even back at work by the end of the week.

Response of the holdouts will be interesting. A bit of grumbling, but ultimately sticking with the DUP gravy train? Or does it become more messy? Unionism is so directionless at the minute - how stable can government be until they figure themselves out?

[marty34]

I'd say the Brits will fudge some language and jargon to melt the ice a bit for Donaldson and get him over the line.

All depends how Bin man and Allister react to see what happens next.

As I say, Donaldson and the DUP are being dragged into this...not willing to be part of it at all.

[LeoMc]

Seems Donaldson has calculated he finally has enough support to push them back into Stormont. Big meeting on Monday to lay it all out. Maybe even back at work by the end of the week.

Response of the holdouts will be interesting. A bit of grumbling, but ultimately sticking with the DUP gravy train? Or does it become more messy? Unionism is so directionless at the minute - how stable can government be until they figure themselves out?

They didn't vote during the last meeting as it was leaked. So Bryson leaked about this one hoping for the same result.

Seen a great response to him from Newton Emerson. If you continually tell people they are not Unionist, eventually you will be right.

[yellowcard]

Seems Donaldson has calculated he finally has enough support to push them back into Stormont. Big meeting on Monday to lay it all out. Maybe even back at work by the end of the week.

Response of the holdouts will be interesting. A bit of grumbling, but ultimately sticking with the DUP gravy train? Or does it become more messy? Unionism is so directionless at the minute - how stable can government be until they figure themselves out?

Stephen Nolan is back from holidays on Monday so there is still time to ramp up the outrage and scupper a deal.

[Main Street]

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

That's a teller. They'll stand outside the gates and count people going in.

What I'm talking about is a Polling Agent. We literally have to set up a table for them and leave a copy (a different colour to the real one) of the electoral register on that table. They aren't allowed to take it out of the polling station and it gets taken back to the main polling centre after polls closed but they have access to that thing from 7am -10pm. They have to be known in advance and when they arrive they show ID to the Polling Station manager and they have to keep a log throughout the day of who comes and goes be it polling agents, police, electoral staff or any other information like if someone tries to vote that's maybe done a proxy or postal vote etc.

I stand corrected!

I'm aware that saying so goes completely against the whole ethos of the discussion board, if not SM sites in general lol

😂 An inspiration to all my friend.

Both Tellers and Polling Agents  "are an established part of the democratic process".
It´s just that Tellers have to behave and act within guidelines.

[Orior]

So, as well as giving the occupied six counties £3 billion, Rishi is going to roll back some of the so-called Brexit benefits? I'm sure the racist English will be delighted,

[Eire90]

People gathering in communities to write keep your world letters to dup

[Nanderson]

People gathering in communities to write keep your world letters to dup

says more about those types of community. Haven't seen a signing outside of east belfast, markethill or moygashel