TG4 - Club Championships Coverage

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From the Bunker

Quote from: thebar on March 17, 2019, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 09:22:51 PM
Strange that Kerry cannot replicate the success at Senior of their Intermediate and Junior teams on the All Ireland stage?

How come?

Did they not win it as recently as a couple of years ago?

One title in 22 years! Kerry intermediate and Junior Champions win Club All Irelands nearly every year! Surely when they have different clubs at such a high level winning AI's at the lower grades their Senior teams should be unbeatable.  It's a mystery? What's going on?

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 10:24:23 PM
Quote from: thebar on March 17, 2019, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 09:22:51 PM
Strange that Kerry cannot replicate the success at Senior of their Intermediate and Junior teams on the All Ireland stage?

How come?

Did they not win it as recently as a couple of years ago?

One title in 22 years! Kerry intermediate and Junior Champions win Club All Irelands nearly every year! Surely when they have different clubs at such a high level winning AI's at the lower grades their Senior teams should be unbeatable.  It's a mystery? What's going on?
Their junior and intermediate representatives from kerry aren't actually junior or intermediate clubs?


From the Bunker

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 17, 2019, 10:27:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 10:24:23 PM
Quote from: thebar on March 17, 2019, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 09:22:51 PM
Strange that Kerry cannot replicate the success at Senior of their Intermediate and Junior teams on the All Ireland stage?

How come?

Did they not win it as recently as a couple of years ago?

One title in 22 years! Kerry intermediate and Junior Champions win Club All Irelands nearly every year! Surely when they have different clubs at such a high level winning AI's at the lower grades their Senior teams should be unbeatable.  It's a mystery? What's going on?
Their junior and intermediate representatives from kerry aren't actually junior or intermediate clubs?

How could that be? Did they not win their respective titles in Kerry?

OgraAnDun

Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 17, 2019, 10:27:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 10:24:23 PM
Quote from: thebar on March 17, 2019, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 09:22:51 PM
Strange that Kerry cannot replicate the success at Senior of their Intermediate and Junior teams on the All Ireland stage?

How come?

Did they not win it as recently as a couple of years ago?

One title in 22 years! Kerry intermediate and Junior Champions win Club All Irelands nearly every year! Surely when they have different clubs at such a high level winning AI's at the lower grades their Senior teams should be unbeatable.  It's a mystery? What's going on?
Their junior and intermediate representatives from kerry aren't actually junior or intermediate clubs?

How could that be? Did they not win their respective titles in Kerry?

I suspect you know exactly what can of worms you are opening.

Ball Hopper

Fun facts for 2019 Club Championship in Kerry...

Na Gaeil club in Tralee are junior, but are in Div 1 of the Kerry County League;

Senior club Kenmare Shamrocks are in Div 2;

4 intermediate clubs in Div 1 - St. Mary's Cahersiveen, Templenoe, An Ghaeltacht and Spa;

2 intermediate clubs in Div 4 -  Laune Rangers and Waterville

Owenmoresider

Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 18, 2019, 02:59:02 AM
Fun facts for 2019 Club Championship in Kerry...

Na Gaeil club in Tralee are junior, but are in Div 1 of the Kerry County League;

Senior club Kenmare Shamrocks are in Div 2;

4 intermediate clubs in Div 1 - St. Mary's Cahersiveen, Templenoe, An Ghaeltacht and Spa;

2 intermediate clubs in Div 4 -  Laune Rangers and Waterville
And remarkably they're the last Kerry club other than Crokes to win the senior club All Ireland. Fallen a long way since.

David McKeown

Have Waterville fallen badly in recent years?  I remember Micko giving a talk at our club centenary a few years back and he was talking about Waterville being senior and division 1 yet made up of only three families.
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Wildweasel74

Kenmare Division 2? Fairly big place with some Kerry seniors

Raginbull

Kerry being allowed to enter the club's they do into the all Ireland is a joke. How many genuine, small hard working parishes have been denied a once in a lifetime all Ireland win by clubs that should never have been there in the first place.
How many more years will that farce be allowed continue and the media keep lauding the achievement as if it were honestly earned.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Raginbull on March 18, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Kerry being allowed to enter the club's they do into the all Ireland is a joke. How many genuine, small hard working parishes have been denied a once in a lifetime all Ireland win by clubs that should never have been there in the first place.
How many more years will that farce be allowed continue and the media keep lauding the achievement as if it were honestly earned.

But did these teams not win the Junior and intermediate Championships in Kerry.  What rule did they break? They produce phenomenal teams at these grades year in year out, proving that Kerry club football is the strongest and best in the country.

MayoBuck

Quote from: Raginbull on March 18, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Kerry being allowed to enter the club's they do into the all Ireland is a joke. How many genuine, small hard working parishes have been denied a once in a lifetime all Ireland win by clubs that should never have been there in the first place.
How many more years will that farce be allowed continue and the media keep lauding the achievement as if it were honestly earned.

It's not easy for the GAA to step in as every county sets up their club championships in their own way. Kerry only have 8 senior clubs so their intermediate/junior winners will always have an advantage over Mayo, Galway, Dublin etc. However other counties also have only 8 senior clubs and it's not doing them any good.

With the playing numbers and tradition in Kerry, they should really have 16 senior clubs.

From the Bunker

Quote from: MayoBuck on March 18, 2019, 05:11:10 PM
Quote from: Raginbull on March 18, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Kerry being allowed to enter the club's they do into the all Ireland is a joke. How many genuine, small hard working parishes have been denied a once in a lifetime all Ireland win by clubs that should never have been there in the first place.
How many more years will that farce be allowed continue and the media keep lauding the achievement as if it were honestly earned.

It's not easy for the GAA to step in as every county sets up their club championships in their own way. Kerry only have 8 senior clubs so their intermediate/junior winners will always have an advantage over Mayo, Galway, Dublin etc. However other counties also have only 8 senior clubs and it's not doing them any good.

With the playing numbers and tradition in Kerry, they should really have 16 senior clubs.

This would disrupt the Kerry Championship which is made up of 8 clubs and 8 Divisional sides.

Wildweasel74

There's more clubs in Cork and Dublin, at what level does there junior and intermediate grades start. How can most counties have a 12_16 senior division with fewer teams than Kerry yet they can manage on 8.Why is Kerry and Cork the only counties who play the divisional and systems. A team playing division 1 league should not be allowed to entry a championship a level below

MayoBuck

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2019, 05:48:01 PM
There's more clubs in Cork and Dublin, at what level does there junior and intermediate grades start. How can most counties have a 12_16 senior division with fewer teams than Kerry yet they can manage on 8.Why is Kerry and Cork the only counties who play the divisional and systems. A team playing division 1 league should not be allowed to entry a championship a level below

I wouldn't have a problem with that. League position shouldn't have a bearing on what championship grade you are. You see it in mayo regularly where intermediate clubs get up to division one and compete strongly, mainly because the county players aren't playing. Once all county players are back later in the year, the same club is unable to win the intermediate championship.

Rossfan

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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2019, 05:48:01 PM
There's more clubs in Cork and Dublin, at what level does there junior and intermediate grades start. How can most counties have a 12_16 senior division with fewer teams than Kerry yet they can manage on 8.Why is Kerry and Cork the only counties who play the divisional and systems. A team playing division 1 league should not be allowed to entry a championship a level below
Every County Board can have any type of League or Championship they want.
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