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Dublin
Galway
Kerry
Mayo
Meath
Monaghan
Tyrone

3 weeks to go till it starts off. We have Tyrone in Omagh first. It's a really big game for us as we will need to pick up every point we can to stay up. We will need all guns blazing in the first game. We have a good number of newcomers from the underage ranks coming through like Matthew Costello, Shane Walsh, Brian Conlon and David Toner as well the return of a few seasoned campaigners from the O'Dowd era such as the Wallace brothers, Donal Lenihan, and Ronan Jones. Óisín O'Brien is another new addition to the squad though he's in his late twenties.

We have a few injuries ahead of this game which are concerning though. We are without Mickey Newman, Paraic Harnan and possibly Lenihan who had only just rejoined the squad. There might be others on the injured list but I'm not sure.

Obviously the big talking point in Tyrone is the loss of McShane this week which certainly helps us. That aside though how fired up would Tyrone be for the league in reality?

Other first round games

Kerry vs Dublin
Mayo vs Donegal
Galway vs Monaghan

How has Oisin O Brien been doing for ye?
He's from around my area in Galway

He only came on in the last O'Byrne Cup game in the second half. But he must be doing something right to get a call up so late on in his career. Was minor in 2007 the last time he played for Galway?

We have donegal away and Dublin at home first two games , unless we can manage something from them two games,  you'd imagine we are in deep s h I t . Seems to be a lot of same faces for 2020 from what ya can gather from challenge games . It's hard to know where we are heading tbh , sometimes you're thinking , great,  load of promising players coming up and then ye get the feeling it's going to be Higgins, Barrett and boyler again, Not that there is anything wrong with them absolute legends of mayo football but they are getting on now and losing sharpness year on year , but what can you do if they are still better than the wans coming up or is there a point where you have to take the hit and give them the experience , love to see Cathal Horan given a run (I believe he's got the stuff )

Midfield we have a found a gem in Mattie Ruane , Tom P will be interesting to see where he is at , could still do with finding another at least . Is seamie togging this year or has he retired ?

Few forwards coming through it seems , Carr has a year under his belt now , Reape and Diskin need to show more of the potential they have if given a run, Tracey and Fionn mcdonagh also have a years senior training now .  Ryan o Donoghue is really promising if he keeps it together , I like Jordan Flynn also , he has fire in the belly .  I'd be disappointed if Conor diskin isn't on the panel , he's a big unit and shows well , you could vision him developing into a right good county player .( could be another one though with the aul discipline issues )

Overall should be a decent year 2 of rebuilding , I'd expect us to be a right good side in 2021/22 , it's important we keep playing division one though throughout the rebuild .I don't believe it's any benefit at all to play outside division one .

Verdict on Mayo , stay up just about .  Tyrone to win it . Meath and Galway to be relegated cause I dislike them the most out of the others available.

Galway could do with winning their first home league match against Monaghan as two very tough away matches against Kerry and Donegal are to follow.
That said I wouldn't like to predict any matches or make snap judgements based on the performances and results from the very early rounds, teams could be at very different levels depending on training schedules, player availability etc.
Interested to see the composition of both the Galway team and the squad for this league particularly with new management in place, it's best time of the year for being optimistic anyway as there's no concrete evidence out there yet to puncture the hopes for 2020!

Quote from: thejuice on January 07, 2020, 11:47:27 AM
He only came on in the last O'Byrne Cup game in the second half. But he must be doing something right to get a call up so late on in his career. Was minor in 2007 the last time he played for Galway?

Well he only transferred from his club in Galway to Navan O'Mahoneys for the 2019 season so this is really realistically the first year he would have been on the radar of football people in Meath.
He definitely played FBD (our equivalent of your O'Byrne cup) for the seniors in later years but I don't think he made any NFL or championship squad. He was a very decent club player but I don't think he is quite good enough for senior county personally.
Good luck to him though.

Triple bill in Croke Park it seems:

Saturday January 25

AIB All Ireland Junior Club Football Final
Kilmaine (Mayo) or Na Gaeil (Kerry) v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown (Wexford) or Blackhill (Monaghan), Croke Park, 3.15pm

AIB All Ireland Intermediate Club Football Final
Oughterard (Galway) or Templenoe (Kerry) v Mattock Rangers (Louth) or Magheracloone (Monaghan), Croke Park, 5.15pm

National Football League Division 1
Dublin v Kerry, Croke Park, 7.15pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/finnerty-looking-forward-to-good-year-with-galway-under-legendary-joyce-1.4133227

2 questions for me are :

Will Monaghan improve or be as poor as last year?
Will the Dubs be arsed, because they weren't last year .

Dubs under Dessie could go either way. I would imagine there would be lads out to earn their place but might not lend to a cohesive team performance. Monaghan might be in a similar position but they'll always be tough to beat.

Meath will be treating this like championship but I'm not sure if we'll have a strong enough squad to see it through but I shouldn't write us off just yet.

Quote from: thejuice on January 09, 2020, 01:12:06 PM
Dubs under Dessie could go either way. I would imagine there would be lads out to earn their place but might not lend to a cohesive team performance. Monaghan might be in a similar position but they'll always be tough to beat.

Meath will be treating this like championship but I'm not sure if we'll have a strong enough squad to see it through but I shouldn't write us off just yet.

Jack McCaffrey had a good interview on OTB this week.

He said that the announcement by Gavin caught everyone off guard. But the players met up to reminisce about the Gavin times and by the end they were all pretty excited and determined about 2020.

Interestingly, he'll be working in a hospital in Kilkenny from February for 6 months so will have to deal with a commute for training/matches that so many non-Dubs have to deal with. Of course, Dub-KK is far from the worst commute going.

Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2020, 10:24:43 AM
2 questions for me are :

Will Monaghan improve or be as poor as last year?
Will the Dubs be arsed, because they weren't last year .

Monaghan would have been relegated last year only for a push and a dive in the Tyrone v Roscommon game.

I think they will go down, probably with Meath or Galway

Do the same special rules apply for the League this year, the sin bin & the mark?

The dubs should take it seriously the league is just as good as the all ireland if you look at it competitively. 

Id have a semi final between 2nd and 3rd  less chance of day rubbers in final games if you do that it rewards the team top of league with a bye to final too.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 10, 2020, 04:33:16 PM

Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2020, 10:24:43 AM
2 questions for me are :

Will Monaghan improve or be as poor as last year?
Will the Dubs be arsed, because they weren't last year .

Monaghan would have been relegated last year only for a push and a dive in the Tyrone v Roscommon game.

I think they will go down, probably with Meath or Galway

Roscommon discipline cost them. Nothing to do with Tyrone

Quote from: Hound on January 10, 2020, 04:14:40 PM

Quote from: thejuice on January 09, 2020, 01:12:06 PM
Dubs under Dessie could go either way. I would imagine there would be lads out to earn their place but might not lend to a cohesive team performance. Monaghan might be in a similar position but they'll always be tough to beat.

Meath will be treating this like championship but I'm not sure if we'll have a strong enough squad to see it through but I shouldn't write us off just yet.

Jack McCaffrey had a good interview on OTB this week.

He said that the announcement by Gavin caught everyone off guard. But the players met up to reminisce about the Gavin times and by the end they were all pretty excited and determined about 2020.

Interestingly, he'll be working in a hospital in Kilkenny from February for 6 months so will have to deal with a commute for training/matches that so many non-Dubs have to deal with. Of course, Dub-KK is far from the worst commute going.

I'd be more concerned about his career going forward. It didn't sound like he's going to keep county football up for that many more years. The pressure is going to increase from work and to earn a place on the panel.

Massive blow to Meaths chances of staying up with the news that Mickey Newman has been ruled out of  the Division 1 campaign with a hip injury.

Yeah although Brennan, Walsh and Lenihan are able to take over on free taking but Newman was key to getting us promoted in terms of how he was able to bring others into the game. Similarly having Reilly to come off the bench last year helped. But in Division 1 i guess you need a bit more than that. We'll have a very young team out against Tyrone. Seamus Lavin, Pauric Harnan and Ethan Devine will all miss the Tyrone game as well.

Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Kieran Molloy finally got a hair cut.

Happy new year, fellow Division oneians. Hard to know how Mayo will do, a lot depends on the first two games. Donegal will be well up for the game in Ballybofey after what happened there the last time both counties faced each other and indeed last summer's one when we dumped them out of the championship against the head. Mayo have never won in Donegal either and it's hard to see that unwanted record to be broken on Saturday evening.

The second one is in Castlebar v the Dubs.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 21, 2020, 11:39:13 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Not too bad, and picked mainly on current form. No harm to give Gleeson another run to see what's he made of in a proper competitive game. Ditto Mulkerrin and D'arcy. HB line has to start producing the goods. Boyle not good enough and Ml. Daly has to stop going missing in games. With a fair wind behind PJ and against weakened opposition with a new/returning manager also a home win should be well achievable.

Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Quote from: MayoBuck on January 22, 2020, 09:58:05 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

I reckon if that team starts, Coen will move to fb, Harrison to corner back and Boyle to 6. Inexperienced enough full forward line, but they have to start somewhere.

Quote from: MayoBuck on January 22, 2020, 09:58:05 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Decent enough side although fairly inexperienced (7 starters from the Dublin game I think?)

Looking forward to it all starting again

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 22, 2020, 10:12:11 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on January 22, 2020, 09:58:05 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Decent enough side although fairly inexperienced (7 starters from the Dublin game I think?)

Looking forward to it all starting again

6 by my count. Clarke didn't play that game while Parsons only came off the bench.

Quote from: MayoBuck on January 22, 2020, 10:21:21 PM

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 22, 2020, 10:12:11 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on January 22, 2020, 09:58:05 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Decent enough side although fairly inexperienced (7 starters from the Dublin game I think?)

Looking forward to it all starting again

6 by my count. Clarke didn't play that game while Parsons only came off the bench.

Forgot about Clarke not starting

Quote from: mouview on January 22, 2020, 01:10:07 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 21, 2020, 11:39:13 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Not too bad, and picked mainly on current form. No harm to give Gleeson another run to see what's he made of in a proper competitive game. Ditto Mulkerrin and D'arcy. HB line has to start producing the goods. Boyle not good enough and Ml. Daly has to stop going missing in games. With a fair wind behind PJ and against weakened opposition with a new/returning manager also a home win should be well achievable.

Galway will have a task on hand to overcome a grizzled, McKenna cup boot camp, hardened Monaghan.

             Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Drew Wylie, Conor Boyle;
Ryan McAnespie, Ryan Wylie, Karl O'Connell;
      Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Kieran Hughes, Micheál Bannigan, Dessie Ward;
Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, Dermot Malone

Boot camp etc but no McManus.
Worth a few points to Galway surely.

Thats a very strong Monaghan team, how many of them played in the Tyrone game? Don't think there was too many.

Monaghan team is about as strong as they could have named bar McManus, this is huge test for a Galway team with 4 league debutants.
That said, this is a home match that Galway simply must get a positive result from, with very tricky away trips to Kerry and Donegal to follow, we don't want to reach Round 4 of the league pointless.

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 23, 2020, 01:50:35 PM
Monaghan team is about as strong as they could have named bar McManus, this is huge test for a Galway team with 4 league debutants.
That said, this is a home match that Galway simply must get a positive result from, with very tricky away trips to Kerry and Donegal to follow, we don't want to reach Round 4 of the league pointless.

Forecast is for wet and breezy on Sunday too unfortunately.

Monaghan might be less motivated with Cavan below in Division 2.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 23, 2020, 11:19:22 AM
Thats a very strong Monaghan team, how many of them played in the Tyrone game? Don't think there was too many.

Maybe 6 started and 5 came on at ht and later.
Resting McManus is welcome, aside from that Banty has put all hands to the pump. But no worries for Galway, all predictions here are that Monaghan are doomed before a ball is kicked in anger :)

Won't know for a few rounds where teams are at. Sure I've seen Galway picked for the league final purely on the basis of the management appointment but PJ isn't out there kicking points himself.

Quote from: Main Street on January 22, 2020, 11:35:49 PM

Quote from: mouview on January 22, 2020, 01:10:07 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 21, 2020, 11:39:13 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Not too bad, and picked mainly on current form. No harm to give Gleeson another run to see what's he made of in a proper competitive game. Ditto Mulkerrin and D'arcy. HB line has to start producing the goods. Boyle not good enough and Ml. Daly has to stop going missing in games. With a fair wind behind PJ and against weakened opposition with a new/returning manager also a home win should be well achievable.

Galway will have a task on hand to overcome a grizzled, McKenna cup boot camp, hardened Monaghan.

             Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Drew Wylie, Conor Boyle;
Ryan McAnespie, Ryan Wylie, Karl O'Connell;
      Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Kieran Hughes, Micheál Bannigan, Dessie Ward;
Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, Dermot Malone

Is McManus injured?

Does anyone know if you can subscribe to Eir Sport in the north to watch the national league? It's not part of Premier Sports any more

Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2020, 07:22:21 PM

Quote from: Main Street on January 22, 2020, 11:35:49 PM

Quote from: mouview on January 22, 2020, 01:10:07 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 21, 2020, 11:39:13 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Not too bad, and picked mainly on current form. No harm to give Gleeson another run to see what's he made of in a proper competitive game. Ditto Mulkerrin and D'arcy. HB line has to start producing the goods. Boyle not good enough and Ml. Daly has to stop going missing in games. With a fair wind behind PJ and against weakened opposition with a new/returning manager also a home win should be well achievable.

Galway will have a task on hand to overcome a grizzled, McKenna cup boot camp, hardened Monaghan.

             Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Drew Wylie, Conor Boyle;
Ryan McAnespie, Ryan Wylie, Karl O'Connell;
      Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Kieran Hughes, Micheál Bannigan, Dessie Ward;
Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, Dermot Malone

Is McManus injured?

Not as far as I am aware, the issue is more to do with the evident wear and tear on his hips which apparantly benefits from a rest period.
He has a limited number of games left in his football lifespan.

Quote from: PMG1 on January 23, 2020, 08:26:58 PM
Does anyone know if you can subscribe to Eir Sport in the north to watch the national league? It's not part of Premier Sports any more

Get yourself a chipped firestick, men do them for £50.

Well that's what I've had the past few years anyway ;)

Odds for topping winning the league:

Dublin 11/8
Kerry 3/1
Donegal 7/1
Mayo 8/1
Tyrone 8/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Meath 50/1

To be relegated:

Meath 2/5
Monaghan 11/8
Galway 5/2
Tyrone 11/4
Mayo 3/1
Donegal 7/2
Kerry 8/1
Dublin 33/1

The bookies think Meath are a cert to go down with any one of the next 5 along with them.

Was just looking at the fixtures and Tyrone have a tough draw this year, home to Meath in the first round which presumably Meath will be fired up for and after that they have 4 away games plus home games against Dublin & Kerry.

Being a bit pedantic but always find those comments about 'bookies think things are certs' to be strange.

That 2/5 on Meath is a marginated price. If they make Meath 2/5 then given standard overrounds they make the 1/2 or so on 100% pricing, the change down to 2/5 is their margin. 1/2 means 2 times out of 3, or 67%. It's more likely than unlikely in their view but a long way from cert territory.

Picking on that point specifically which is unfair as it happens everywhere. Media say "bookies can't see X Horse beaten" when it's 10/11. When 10/11 basically means they make it a 50/50 shot to win or not

Quote from: Manning18 on January 24, 2020, 02:51:38 PM
Being a bit pedantic but always find those comments about 'bookies think things are certs' to be strange.

That 2/5 on Meath is a marginated price. If they make Meath 2/5 then given standard overrounds they make the 1/2 or so on 100% pricing, the change down to 2/5 is their margin. 1/2 means 2 times out of 3, or 67%. It's more likely than unlikely in their view but a long way from cert territory.

Picking on that point specifically which is unfair as it happens everywhere. Media say "bookies can't see X Horse beaten" when it's 10/11. When 10/11 basically means they make it a 50/50 shot to win or not

You sure?
I would have assumed 4/6 is 67%?

Convert to decimal price, divide 1 by decimal to get the %. In this case (4/6), 1/1.66 = 60%.     1/2=1.5.  1/1.5 = 66.66%

For fractions, add the two fractions together and take the second number. 4/6 means 6 times out of every 10. For soemthing like 8/15 its 8+15=23. 100/23, multiplied by 15 = 65%.

Apologies for derailing the thread for those that don't give a toss about punting

Looking forward to the league finally kicking off this weekend.  A solid performance accompanied by a win would be most welcome considering our fixtures over the next couple of weeks.   Not convinced Monaghan will start as selected based on personnel used through the McKenna Cup campaign.

In terms of the overall league, I would be looking to maintain Div 1 status, find a few new players to strengthen the overall panel and especially in positions where we are quite limited, get our long-term injured players back, integrate a couple of the Corofin lads (wont be too many!) and go into the championship with a bit of confidence.  Not asking for much really I suppose!   ;D

Strong Kerry line up for tomorrow night. 11 that started in the All Ireland?

Shane Ryan; Jason Foley, Tadhg Morley, Shane Enright; Paul Murphy, Gavin Crowley, Brian O Beaglaoich; Tommy Walsh, Adrian Spillane; Gavin O'Brien, Sean O'Shea, Stephen O'Brien; James O'Donoghue, David Clifford, Paul Geaney.

Kerry taking the league serious anyway. Almost their full side out.

And not an entirely convincing one either it seems to me. Defence ok. Tommy Walsh is neither ancient nor the future. Adrian Spillane is as yet unproven. Paul Geaney not in his greatest form and JOD a long way from it. Even brilliant, Clifford is too young to be captain. They'll undoubtedly make a fool of me, but I could somehow see Cork taking them in Munster this year.

Meath

1. Andy Colgan

2. Robin Clarke
3. Conor McGill
4. David Toner

5. James McEntee
6. Ronan Ryan
7. Donal Keoghan

8. Bryan Menton
9. Brian Conlon

10. Ben Brennan
11. Bryan McMahon
12. Eamon Wallace

13. Cillian O'Sullivan
14. Thomas O'Reilly
15. Shane Walsh

Dublin have named a strong team also, 10 starters from the AI final replay.

Evan Comerford
Eric Lowndes
David Byrne
Philip McMahon
James McCarthy
John Small
Eoin Murchan
Brian Fenton
Brian Howard
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Ciaran Kilkenny
Kevin McMamamon
Paddy Andrews
Dean Rock

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
Dublin have named a strong team also, 10 starters from the AI final replay.

Evan Comerford
Eric Lowndes
David Byrne
Philip McMahon
James McCarthy
John Small
Eoin Murchan
Brian Fenton
Brian Howard
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Ciaran Kilkenny
Kevin McMamamon
Paddy Andrews
Dean Rock

Nothing new there for Dublin.

Quote from: Angelo on January 25, 2020, 04:00:02 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
Dublin have named a strong team also, 10 starters from the AI final replay.

Evan Comerford
Eric Lowndes
David Byrne
Philip McMahon
James McCarthy
John Small
Eoin Murchan
Brian Fenton
Brian Howard
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Ciaran Kilkenny
Kevin McMamamon
Paddy Andrews
Dean Rock

Nothing new there for Dublin.

Jim Gavin in the last number of years always had someone new in the early rounds NFL games. New manager now and a different approach.

Quote from: MayoBuck on January 22, 2020, 09:58:05 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

The Mayo subs

R Hennelly
J Stretton
D Kenny
M Plunkett
A O'Shea
C Loftus
T Conroy
J Durcan
K McLoughlin
J McCormack
K Higgins.


Donegal team

S Patton
C Ward
N McGee
E B Gallagher
O McFadden Ferry
C O Donnell
P Brennan
C McGonagle
M Langan
D Clarke
R McHugh
J Brennan
C Thompson
M Murphy
P Mogan

Subs
M Lynch
H McFadden
E McHugh
J McKelvey
E Doherty
M Carroll
E McGettigan
B McCole
C Morrison
A McClean
C Diver

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
Dublin have named a strong team also, 10 starters from the AI final replay.

Evan Comerford
Eric Lowndes
David Byrne
Philip McMahon
James McCarthy
John Small
Eoin Murchan
Brian Fenton
Brian Howard
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Ciaran Kilkenny
Kevin McMamamon
Paddy Andrews
Dean Rock

Come on you boys in blue....

According to Oisin Mcconville this Dessie Farrell era with Dublin could turn out to be more impressive than what they achieved under Jim Gavin. Is that even possible?

Is the mayo game on Eir sports or Premier or anywhere?

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
Is the mayo game on Eir sports or Premier or anywhere?

Eir sport 1.

Good man, thanks

I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net. Mayo lead by 2 after 20 minutes

Tom Parsons listed to start for Mayo. Nice to see him back after his injury troubles. He's a fine player.

Donegal very wasteful here, much the better team in the last 15

HT Donegal 0-9 Mayo 1-4. A deserved lead for Donegal but have hit as many wides as scores.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2020, 07:34:59 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net.

Commentator seemed to think he meant it. Pretty sure it was a point attempt that dropped short into the far corner of the net.

Brolly the w*nker with his usual story about someone he talked to just before the game

Great first half between Dublin and Kerry, Cliffords goal will be the best goal you will see all weekend. Dublin then awarded a non existent penalty which the pundits failed to even comment on. Kerry are missing Moran at midfield but it could go either way this game.

Game has got niggly since half time and Kerry have come out fired up. Plenty of needle between the sides.

Durcan probably should have went for a goal there

Donegal probably wondering how they are not well clear by now. Leaving the door ajar.

FT Donegal 0-19 Mayo 2-13. James Durcan grabs a draw for Mayo in the 8th minute of injury time. Good match and Michael Murphy MOTM with 0-8.

42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

Great goal. High intensity game even if the quality was lacking at times

Dublin and Kerry 1-19 each the result.

The post match "analysis" is gas, completely coloured by the last kick of the game

It will be interesting to see how the CCCC deals with incidents at end of game.
Probably when it involved Dublin and Kerry no penalties.

If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O'Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O'Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2020, 07:58:41 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2020, 07:34:59 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net.

Commentator seemed to think he meant it. Pretty sure it was a point attempt that dropped short into the far corner of the net.

He didn't look at the posts at all so had no idea where the keeper was, so was 100% a point attempt. Between that, the ref playing way over time, the other jammy deflected goal and all the Donegal wides, it looks as if lady luck is on Mayo's side for yet another season

Seems like genuine bad blood between some of the Kerry and Dublin players which is good to see. Football needs rivalries like that and the likelihood is they could meet in an All Ireland final again in September when the stakes will be higher.

Quote from: Carbery on January 25, 2020, 09:19:00 PM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O'Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O'Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

He will be getting a memo tomorrow warning him about his behaviour! Who was the woman pundit in the middle?

Quote from: yellowcard on January 25, 2020, 09:27:23 PM

Quote from: Carbery on January 25, 2020, 09:19:00 PM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O'Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O'Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

He will be getting a memo tomorrow warning him about his behaviour! Who was the woman pundit in the middle?

The usual quota filling female that nobody has clue who it is, ridiculous tokenism from RTE the last few years

Quote from: Manning18 on January 25, 2020, 09:22:18 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2020, 07:58:41 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2020, 07:34:59 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net.

Commentator seemed to think he meant it. Pretty sure it was a point attempt that dropped short into the far corner of the net.

He didn't look at the posts at all so had no idea where the keeper was, so was 100% a point attempt. Between that, the ref playing way over time, the other jammy deflected goal and all the Donegal wides, it looks as if lady luck is on Mayo's side for yet another season

;D ;D

Good game in Croker. Thought Kerry bottled it in the last 10 minutes and lucky to draw but fair play to Ciaran Kilkenny for pulling the strings to get Dublin back in the lead. He's Dublin's best player in my opinion. Tommy Walsh was mostly ineffective. I thought he'd be pulled off by half time. A lot of faking of injuries by Dublin while Loundes was in the sin bin and other time wasting towards the end.

Dublin's indiscipline was probably their biggest worry. For the most part their passing and movement was sharp and they looked to be good shape physically. The newer members of the panel probably didn't catch too many eyes but they weren't out of their depth either.

I doubt the CCCC will do anything about the handbags at the end. There was nothing to it.

I disagree that there was nothing in it. There was real nastiness,  particularly from the Dubs. O'Carroll ran his studs down the Achilles of Geaney? when the Kerry forwards boot came off. Dangerous.  Then John Small was beating all round him. Should have been lined. The targeting of Clifford at the end was nasty. This is a talented 21 year old who the neutrals love to watch. Yet the Dubs lit on him at the end like Leopards on a foal. Cynical.

Quote from: thejuice on January 25, 2020, 09:58:16 PM
Good game in Croker. Thought Kerry bottled it in the last 10 minutes and lucky to draw but fair play to Ciaran Kilkenny for pulling the strings to get Dublin back in the lead. He's Dublin's best player in my opinion. Tommy Walsh was mostly ineffective. I thought he'd be pulled off by half time. A lot of faking of injuries by Dublin while Loundes was in the sin bin and other time wasting towards the end.

Dublin's indiscipline was probably their biggest worry. For the most part their passing and movement was sharp and they looked to be good shape physically. The newer members of the panel probably didn't catch too many eyes but they weren't out of their depth either.

I doubt the CCCC will do anything about the handbags at the end. There was nothing to it.

We should of win that. Referee gave us nothing but sure we wont grumble about that

Hopefully sooner rather than later the penny will drop with RTE that a female GAA analyst has as much insight, clarity and gravitas in men's inter county football, as pulling in someone (of either gender) from Aussie Rules to provide analysis.

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

.if not complaining about the dubs it Kerry junior clubs. You need therapy my friend

Kerry tackled very hard in that second half but Philly McMahon should have seen red, whilst the incident where the Kerry lad that was sin binned wasn't even a free kick in my book. That said Kerry seemed to go back into their shell again for the last 10 minutes plus injury time. A draw was probably the right result even if there were some poor refereeing decisions made during the game.

Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2020, 09:34:48 PM

Quote from: yellowcard on January 25, 2020, 09:27:23 PM

Quote from: Carbery on January 25, 2020, 09:19:00 PM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O'Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O'Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

He will be getting a memo tomorrow warning him about his behaviour! Who was the woman pundit in the middle?

The usual quota filling female that nobody has clue who it is, ridiculous tokenism from RTE the last few years

They have to include the women ya know, otherwise they'll have  the 'burn your bra' types attacking the RTÉ studios.

I blame that Weinstein bollix

Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 25, 2020, 10:11:19 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

.if not complaining about the dubs it Kerry junior clubs. You need therapy my friend

I only complain about Kerry's Senior 'B' and Intermediate 'B' club teams.

Sorry if my opinions are uncomfortable for your eyes!

The Dogs on the streets in Kerry know that the hardest part of winning a club AI is winning a County title!

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 09:40:04 PM

Quote from: Manning18 on January 25, 2020, 09:22:18 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2020, 07:58:41 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2020, 07:34:59 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net.

Commentator seemed to think he meant it. Pretty sure it was a point attempt that dropped short into the far corner of the net.

He didn't look at the posts at all so had no idea where the keeper was, so was 100% a point attempt. Between that, the ref playing way over time, the other jammy deflected goal and all the Donegal wides, it looks as if lady luck is on Mayo's side for yet another season

;D ;D

f**k me, I  left before the goal went in. Which is rather unlike me. I just couldn't see a way back for Mayo at that late stage. Yes Carr went for a point and it dropped in. Donegal will be kicking themselves with their poor shooting and dropped balls into Clarke's hands however.

Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 10:51:27 PM

Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 25, 2020, 10:11:19 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

.if not complaining about the dubs it Kerry junior clubs. You need therapy my friend

I only complain about Kerry's Senior 'B' and Intermediate 'B' club teams.

Sorry if my opinions are uncomfortable for your eyes!

The Dogs on the streets in Kerry know that the hardest part of winning a club AI is winning a County title!

There no need for your anti Kerry tripe. Concentrate on your county

Quote from: dublin7 on January 25, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Was he the Prince Harry lookalike? Played well alright.

Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 25, 2020, 11:28:27 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 10:51:27 PM

Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 25, 2020, 10:11:19 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

.if not complaining about the dubs it Kerry junior clubs. You need therapy my friend

I only complain about Kerry's Senior 'B' and Intermediate 'B' club teams.

Sorry if my opinions are uncomfortable for your eyes!

The Dogs on the streets in Kerry know that the hardest part of winning a club AI is winning a County title!

There no need for your anti Kerry tripe. Concentrate on your county

There's No need to demean my comment as anti Kerry tripe, Just because it puts an asterix  in front of titles won by Kerry clubs!

Quote from: dublin7 on January 25, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Not like a Dublin player ever did anything like that ever. God no.

Not nice is it?

Unreal result in Ballybofey.

I suppose we should be used to James Horan's selections at this stage but Donegal were handed the game from the start. 3 subs at ht says a lot. Not sure though he took off all the right lads though!

However, the newer players that can play at this level played well. Swanee was terrific. Oisín Mullin and Tommy Conroy have quality and no doubts about them. Mullin is probably ahead of where  Lee Keegan was at his age. Conroy is only 19.

Quote from: mup on January 25, 2020, 11:49:04 PM

Quote from: dublin7 on January 25, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Not like a Dublin player ever did anything like that ever. God no.

Not nice is it?

A "Johnny Cooper Special"

Quote from: mup on January 25, 2020, 11:49:04 PM

Quote from: dublin7 on January 25, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Not like a Dublin player ever did anything like that ever. God no.

Not nice is it?

+1

Got chatting to some Kerry lads after the game. Their attitude was that thecref treated it like an u12 game movi g thst free up. not happy.

That said, cracking game for January

Quote from: dublin7 on January 25, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Re Aaron Byrne, what a serious talent. That u21 campaign a few years back, he's as good as I've seen.

Quote from: Carbery on January 25, 2020, 09:19:00 PM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O'Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O'Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

We probably needed to hear something colourful after listening to Ciaran Kilkenny's insipid interview. !

Happy with that performance from a Dublin perspective. Better than I expected.

James O'Donoghue looking back to his old self was a big positive for Kerry.

Didn't want to lose the game, and the leadership qualities throughout the team shone through in the last 10. Kerry though too can be very satisfied with working that equaliser.

I wasn't sure about moving Howard out of wing forward and into midfield. But it sure looks the best alternative now.

Quote from: moysider on January 25, 2020, 11:57:20 PM
Unreal result in Ballybofey.

I suppose we should be used to James Horan's selections at this stage but Donegal were handed the game from the start. 3 subs at ht says a lot. Not sure though he took off all the right lads though!

However, the newer players that can play at this level played well. Swanee was terrific. Oisín Mullin and Tommy Conroy have quality and no doubts about them. Mullin is probably ahead of where  Lee Keegan was at his age. Conroy is only 19.

4 AFL clubs after Oisin Mullin , he was top performer at combine trials...

Quote from: ballinaman on January 26, 2020, 09:52:55 AM

Quote from: moysider on January 25, 2020, 11:57:20 PM
Unreal result in Ballybofey.

I suppose we should be used to James Horan's selections at this stage but Donegal were handed the game from the start. 3 subs at ht says a lot. Not sure though he took off all the right lads though!

However, the newer players that can play at this level played well. Swanee was terrific. Oisín Mullin and Tommy Conroy have quality and no doubts about them. Mullin is probably ahead of where  Lee Keegan was at his age. Conroy is only 19.

4 AFL clubs after Oisin Mullin , he was top performer at combine trials...

Luckily our new rules don't suit the AFL

Review of sorts.

Clarke, did well under the high balls dropping in. Almost gifted Donegal a goal, but as per my previous post they hit it wide. Mullen, fitted right in going to be a solid cb or hb. Harrison wasn't too bad either. Boyle - ferocious in the tackle as ever. Everything you want in a player. O'Hora, was excellent I thought. What age is he does anyone know? Coen had a decent game too, did as well as he could on Murphy. Durcan had a good few drives upfield too. Struggled at midfield big time in first half. Parsons might never fully recover from his injury. Jordan Flynn played better in the second half when moved to half forward line. I thought Bryan Walsh struggled big time and was surprised to see him coming out after half time. Diarmuid had a very good game in my opinion. Boland was ok also I think,(was behind the goal to the left of the tv screens and I thought he kicked the ball away in the first half a bit too much). His sub certainly made an impact at the end of the game. Tommy Conroy had a solid performance. Not sure if Reape was the answer to our problems. Carr scored a peach of a goal ;D.

The halftime subs definitely made an impact. It seems to be typical Horan, wait until halftime to make a sub regardless of how bad anyone's playing.

Ref was frustrating. I couldn't believe the Donegal number 5 didn't see the line after crashing the player whose name escapes me st this moment in time into the wall of the stand.

Donegal will be kicking themselves after that. They had awful wides. As Manning18 said Mayo got lucky. It's nice to have a biteen of luck for a change. Major improvement needed for the weekend ahead.

Major issue now is kickouts , that hanging ball style Clarke has is foo kin brutal , it really stood out for me last night , it's too much effort to keep chasing your own kick out . Donegal should of won handy but they were poor at shooting especially in first half . Dublin will eat us alive next week unless there is something done about kick out strategy. Mullen looks primed to be a massive county star but the Aussies are supposed to be very interested in him as someone already said . I like the cut of Conroy , he has pace and skill . Ryan o donoghue looks like he plenty of ball skills but very light frame . O hora needs a haircut and he'll be grand . Tom P , It's very hard to criticise such a heroic brave man but I'd have my doubts he'll ever return to the player he was . Aido was brilliant when introduced, could see him having a brilliant year . Diarmuid was a mixed bag , I still believe he doesn't realise his potential , still very decent though in patches last night , nice place ball kicker too , I can't recall him taking them off the ground like that before .  Boyler still has it , simple as that , he must be putting in some yards last couple of years to maintain the standard he achieves . Carr has potential but needs to show more grit for a big man at winning ball coming in . Ruane, Cillian and Leroy will obviously add a bit when they come in , staying up would be a great achievement for where this squad is at at the moment .

"Highlights" of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

I'm still not convinced about Declan Bonner as Donegal manager, tactically still a little suspect and better management would have closed that game out last night.

One of Mayo's more difficult matches and a point on the board, they will be delighted and should be in the mix for a league final spot once more.

Kerry and Dublin were determined not to lose going by their strong line ups and they didn't lose. Now that game is out of the way both will likely give more of the fringe players a run out in the remaining 6 games.

Tyrone and Galway wins today or a shock or two?

Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2020, 11:27:27 AM
"Highlights" of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 12:03:28 PM

Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2020, 11:27:27 AM
"Highlights" of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

You are James Carr I assume .

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 12:03:28 PM

Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2020, 11:27:27 AM
"Highlights" of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

"Dropped Short".......he was about 10 yards from goal when he pulled the trigger

Could be a tight league for us to stay up now. We needed the points. Frustrating as it is, fluke goals and all, you have to admire Mayo for refusing to ever let Donegal beat them. Don't think we have since the 2012 All Ireland.

With our obligatory annual loss in Letterkenny sure to come at the hands of Galway, and away matches to Dublin, Tyrone, Kerry and Meath, I'll be surprised if we don't go back down. Maybe if we beat Meath and Monaghan, and scrape a point somewhere else, we'll survive, but its hard to see.

Nice to steal a draw last night, makes up for pissing away the Galway game 2 weeks ago. Scoreline flattered us at half-time needless to say. Donegal were cleaning up around midfield, partly due to Clarke's kickouts but also Tom Parsons being off the pace of the game. Flynn looked lost in midfield too, was much more prominent in the 2nd half when he was moved to half forward.

2nd half was much more evenly matched. Aidan O'Shea made a big difference in midfield, always seems to play well against Donegal. Conroy and Durcan made a big impact off the bench while McLoughlin took his frees well (fair play to him for continuing to take them despite his history).

Of the new lads I thought Mullin was very good, he has blistering pace. You can tell he's going to be a player considering he's only 19. Padraig O'Hora can be very happy with his showing. Flynn and O'Donoghue mixed the good with the mediocre but they deserve another shot against Dublin. Bryan Walsh didn't really get into the game apart from his well taken point. We seemed to be slipping a lot on the surface for some reason.

Our efficiency in front of goal was the biggest positive though. Watched the game back this morning and I think we only had 4 wides in the whole game and no shots dropped short (unless Carr's goal counts as one?  ;) ). We get plenty of stick when missing chances so might as well praise them this time.

Quote from: MayoBuck on January 26, 2020, 01:39:07 PM
Nice to steal a draw last night, makes up for pissing away the Galway game 2 weeks ago. Scoreline flattered us at half-time needless to say. Donegal were cleaning up around midfield, partly due to Clarke's kickouts but also Tom Parsons being off the pace of the game. Flynn looked lost in midfield too, was much more prominent in the 2nd half when he was moved to half forward.

2nd half was much more evenly matched. Aidan O'Shea made a big difference in midfield, always seems to play well against Donegal. Conroy and Durcan made a big impact off the bench while McLoughlin took his frees well (fair play to him for continuing to take them despite his history).

Of the new lads I thought Mullin was very good, he has blistering pace. You can tell he's going to be a player considering he's only 19. Padraig O'Hora can be very happy with his showing. Flynn and O'Donoghue mixed the good with the mediocre but they deserve another shot against Dublin. Bryan Walsh didn't really get into the game apart from his well taken point. We seemed to be slipping a lot on the surface for some reason.

Our efficiency in front of goal was the biggest positive though. Watched the game back this morning and I think we only had 4 wides in the whole game and no shots dropped short (unless Carr's goal counts as one?  ;) ). We get plenty of stick when missing chances so might as well praise them this time.

Thanks.
Good analysis.
Anyone who takes the time to rewatch before posting has to be commended

Anyone got a radio link for the Tyrone game. LMFM stream not working.

Meath 1-01
Tyrone 1-01

McCurry and McMahon with the goals.

McManus starts for Monaghan. No Tom Flynn for Galway.

Meath 1-04
Tyrone 1-04

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 02:34:02 PM
McManus starts for Monaghan. No Tom Flynn for Galway.

Why was it said all week he wouldn't be involved ? Would not of put Galway in my accumulator if I knew .

Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2020, 12:47:54 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 12:03:28 PM

Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2020, 11:27:27 AM
"Highlights" of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

"Dropped Short".......he was about 10 yards from goal when he pulled the trigger

It still dropped short.

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 26, 2020, 02:45:51 PM

Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2020, 12:47:54 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 12:03:28 PM

Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2020, 11:27:27 AM
"Highlights" of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

"Dropped Short".......he was about 10 yards from goal when he pulled the trigger

It still dropped short.

Perhaps it didn't drop short and he was going for goal .

Quote from: larryin89 on January 26, 2020, 02:47:57 PM

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 26, 2020, 02:45:51 PM

Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2020, 12:47:54 PM

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"Highlights" of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

"Dropped Short".......he was about 10 yards from goal when he pulled the trigger

It still dropped short.

Perhaps it didn't drop short and he was going for goal .

He wasn't though.

How do you know though , it's just an opinion really , id argue it's in Carr's locker that type of strike .

HT Galway 1-8 Monaghan 0-8. Monaghan missed a penalty

Meath 1-06
Tyrone 1-10

Tyrone parking the bus and counter attacking. We're not finding space up front. Not moving the all fast enough or trying to use the mark. Picked up a few more injuries before the game which hasn't helped but not good enough so far.

Meath 1-09
Tyrone 1-14

Poor stuff.

RTÉ trína chéile

37 mins

Monaghan 1-9 Galway 0-08



44 mins

Galway 1-10 Monaghan 0-09

level in salthill - sounds like a cracking game. 10 mins left

Maurice Deegan.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Maurice Deegan.

No doubt he's smiling away.

Lost Galway bay fm , listening on northern sound , never heard such horrible commentators

galway won by a point. Sounded like Deegan made it all about him at the end

No surprise to see refereeing issues coming up again after the weekend. Both referees last night Coldrick and Hurson are very much 'soft free' refs. Players are well aware of this and will go down when there is the slightest bit of contact. It ruins the game and forces managers to go with defensive systems because they can't allow their defenders go one on one when it's a guaranteed free in to the forward. While the likes of David Gough and Conor Lane have their flaws, at least they allow some form of a 'tackle'. Deegan is another 'soft free' merchant though I didn't see the Galway game today.

3 out of 4 of the Division one games this weekend ended with controversy over the amount of injury time allowed. This comes a week after the Corofin injury time shitshow. I'd argue that refs are often correct to keep adding on time due to rampant time wasting in the game however the whole thing could be fixed so easily, it's ridiculous at this stage. When will the clowns in the GAA just introduce the clock system that operates so well in Rugby? Players, management and spectators could then easily see exactly when the clock is stopped, how much time is left etc. and it would cut out a lot of the bullshit.

Good win for Galway. 2 points in the bag.

Sounds like Galway made heavy weather with home advantage to scrape the win.

Quote from: Dubhaltach on January 26, 2020, 05:04:08 PM3 out of 4 of the Division one games this weekend ended with controversy over the amount of injury time allowed. This comes a week after the Corofin injury time shitshow. I'd argue that refs are often correct to keep adding on time due to rampant time wasting in the game however the whole thing could be fixed so easily, it's ridiculous at this stage. When will the clowns in the GAA just introduce the clock system that operates so well in Rugby? Players, management and spectators could then easily see exactly when the clock is stopped, how much time is left etc. and it would cut out a lot of the bullshit.

The fact that there has been literally 100s of ladies football games played with no controversy shows how wrong the GAA powers-that-be were to scrap this.

I would be hopeful that with the current black card sin-bin rule that the calls to reintroduce the hooter will eventually force the powers-that-be to bring this back.

It's only a matter of time before there's a televised game where some lad who is sinbinned who misses a tiny amount of game-time.

It's bad enough that the sin-bin rule incentivises team to slow down play/play keep-ball/pass it back to the keeper/feign injury.

Curate's egg of as game in Salthill marred by a very poor display from Maurice Deegan who seemed hell bent on making the game as close and as long as possible.

Galway, bar a short spell early on, led pretty much the whole game. Difference at HT was Robert Finnerty scored a fine goal for Galway while Monaghan missed a penalty. Was a well hit penalty actually but a great save from the keeper. Confusion over the award of it as Deegan blew for a free, seemed to play advantage and then signalled a penalty almost immediately.

Galway started the 2nd half on top. Finnerty again clean through one on one with the keeper and he somehow blazed over the bar to put 5 between them. I'll be diplomatic and say the next 20 minutes Galway found it extremely difficult to get a decision from Maurice Deegan. Frees were only going one way and it gave Monaghan a foothold back into the game as they got it back to 4, 3, 2 and then 1. On a cold day I'll give Deegan this much, he got the crowd fired up anyway.

Game level with 10 or so to go. Galway edge ahead again. Have a couple of good goal chances that they again blaze over and another punched over. Monaghan have a great goal chance that beat the keeper I think and a Galway defender (Mulkerrin I think) seemed to catch it right on the line. I think a goal then would have put Monaghan ahead approaching the end of normal time.

About 10+ minutes of added time played. Multiple stoppages. Throw balls. Players down injured. I think someone ran on to give Deegan an earful at one stage in the middle of it.

McManus started for Monaghan in the end. They had a pretty strong side out. Galway obviously still missing any Corofin players and Flynn cried off before the start. By the final 10 minutes I think we had 3 or 4 U-20's from last year on the field. Mulkerrin was good again. As was John Daly. Varley again some man to show for and win ball out in front before he tired.

On the debit side if Galway are going to play more open they are going to have to track runners religiously out of defence. There is no blanket there to meet them now and Monaghan had some joy out of corner backs and wing backs sneaking up the field unmarked into space to kick scores.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Maurice Deegan.

He was beyond bad.  It's just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 06:35:58 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Maurice Deegan.

He was beyond bad.  It's just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.

Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.

Quote from: galwayman on January 26, 2020, 06:41:13 PM

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 06:35:58 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Maurice Deegan.

He was beyond bad.  It's just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.

Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.

Thought D'Arcy did alright in midfield actually but 90% of Galway's kickouts in the 2nd half were just short dinks to the spare man. Beggan is really brilliant at picking out runners. Amazing accuracy at distance so Galway couldn't really get at Monaghan's kickouts. Too much standing still at Galway kick outs. Needs to be more players making runs into space.

Mulkerrin was good again. Seems to his spot now until proven otherwise. Not sure if Duane and Heaney will be corner backs come the championships but who knows. Seems like those spots are up for grabs.

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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Maurice Deegan.

He was beyond bad.  It's just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.

Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.

I'm sure there is a strategy but it's not very well thought out or executed from what was on display today.  Anything into the middle of the field is 50:50 at best and putting them on top of a small lad like O'Laoi doesn't make much sense either.  Mid range kick outs were not too effective either and we seemed to resort to a lot of short ones after that.  D'Arcy and Comer did field 2 great balls in either half but they were the exception.  To be honest, I think a big part of the problem is that there are zero runs being made to get on the ball for our KOs.  Mon schooled us in that dept today. A lot of work needed for sure.

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Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 06:35:58 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Maurice Deegan.

He was beyond bad.  It's just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.

Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.

I'm sure there is a strategy but it's not very well thought out or executed from what was on display today.  Anything into the middle of the field is 50:50 at best and putting them on top of a small lad like O'Laoi doesn't make much sense either.  Mid range kick outs were not too effective either and we seemed to resort to a lot of short ones after that.  D'Arcy and Comer did field 2 great balls in either half but they were the exception.  To be honest, I think a big part of the problem is that there are zero runs being made to get on the ball for our KOs.  Mon schooled us in that dept today. A lot of work needed for sure.

Kick outs were such a massive issue under KW as well.
D'Arcy not going to make that team from what I've seen over the past few seasons - just seems a bit short of county senior standard to me.
Interesting to see if they try Steede out.

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Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 06:35:58 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Maurice Deegan.

He was beyond bad.  It's just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.

Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.

I'm sure there is a strategy but it's not very well thought out or executed from what was on display today.  Anything into the middle of the field is 50:50 at best and putting them on top of a small lad like O'Laoi doesn't make much sense either.  Mid range kick outs were not too effective either and we seemed to resort to a lot of short ones after that.  D'Arcy and Comer did field 2 great balls in either half but they were the exception.  To be honest, I think a big part of the problem is that there are zero runs being made to get on the ball for our KOs.  Mon schooled us in that dept today. A lot of work needed for sure.

Kick outs were such a massive issue under KW as well.
D'Arcy not going to make that team from what I've seen over the past few seasons - just seems a bit short of county senior standard to me.
Interesting to see if they try Steede out.

Another thing that was blatantly obvious today was Monaghan's tactic of using their runner (fella in the yellow bib) to fill space on the pitch around the 50 on almost all of our kick outs for the last 20 mins or so of today's game.  Our sideline were very naive in not bringing it to the refs attention or at least dealing with him themselves.  It's definitely something that needs to be clamped down on.  Sherlock for Dub was a master at it under Gavins reign. 

No, I can't let this narrative go unchallenged, that Galway were somehow superior throughout and that Deegan kept Monaghan in it.

He was bad, but Monaghan felt it too. We won a free along the sideline in the second half your your selector with the orange bib encroached on the field, got involved with Kieran Hughes (he knew the right man to target anyway, I'll give him that) and Deegan throws the ball up. Your defender (Heaney was it?) wrestles McManus to the ground as Monaghan break up the field in the second half and..... nothing. Your No. 6 lay down for a minute or two during stoppage time at the end of the game. Was the time added on?...... No.

Also, I'll see your couple of goal chances (that you got points out of by the way) and I'll raise you a missed penalty, a goal chance for Jack McCarron saved in the first half, the mark taken by Kieran Hughes on the edge of the square in the second half where he hit it on the turn and it went just wide, the chance from Christopher McGuinness at the end that was saved on the line by one of your backs......... my point being that on another day we hit two or three goals too and win the game.

It was a very even entertaining game and in my opinion Monaghan left at least one point behind us today.

Only Round One of the league but it looks like Galway will have a huge job on to ensure they remain in Division One, could easily and maybe should have lost that match today on the balance of chances, those two points will be crucial in hopefully staying up.
I was at the Dublin-Kerry match last night as well and the difference in standard to the two teams in Salthill today was stark, I wouldn't give them a prayer in Kerry next week going by the matches this weekend. We badly need Monaghan and Meath to keep losing the rest of the way anyway.

Deegan has been highlighted here already but he was simply ridiculous in the second half. After the (by rule completely correct) black card he decided that Monaghan would need as much help as possible to even it up. Monaghan were pulling and dragging off the ball all day long, got called for it once. Galway couldn't buy a free for about twenty minutes and it took a pure dirt hit by Carey on Shane Walsh after the ball was long gone before Deegan then figured it was time to maybe play the game by rule again and Galway got a scorable free literally 20 seconds later. The injury time was definitely more than 5 minutes but if he left it to 7 minutes that would have been the maximum possible I'd have thought, the way things were going I was flabbergasted that he didn't just give Monaghan the free in after the hop ball on the 21 as it looked for all the world that he was dying to get the match to a draw.

Gleeson is clearly an excellent shot stopper, that was a good save from the penalty, and he is a much more imposing figure than the likes of Power or Lavelle between the sticks.
The most important factor is the kickout though and the jury is really out there, I'd give him a bit of a pass because the movement outside of him is nonexistent but the trajectory on his kicks is a bit too flighty as it is.
The only well worked kickout all day was when there was a load of space left in the middle and Walsh ran from the opposition half to cleanly mark it between the 45 and the 65, although I suspect this was Walsh just making the run when he saw the space rather than a designed play, either way they need to get more of this happening or Galway will be short of the Super 8s again this year. Just pumping it out and expecting Conroy, Comer and D'Arcy to pluck Hollywood catches from the skies as they each did on occasion today is a recipe for long term failure. Beggan in contrast gave a kick out masterclass at the other end, it's not all down to them but Beggan and Cluxton provide such an advantage to their respective teams in this area.

Midfield wasn't great today outside of the kickout either, Conroy hit a nice score but himself and D'Arcy are too one paced to play together and neither has the engine of Flynn, they would be killed on a faster track later in the year.

John Daly was excellent and Mulkerrin very good at FB, and they'll have to keep that up every match because we're wide open at the back and getting a lot of trouble from deep runners now without the blanket, a better team than Monaghan would have filleted Galway on several of the overlap chances they had. McDaid getting into it much more today, one terrible kick pass to no one in the first half aside.
Gary O'Donnell unsurprisingly was far better out in his usual position than he was on his brief trial in the full back line.

Boyle doesn't look up to this level at all based on his appearances to date, no surprise he was hooked straight away in the first half after another mistake when he hung around waiting for the ball to come to him and got blown out of it by the Monaghan back, you get no time for that type of play at Senior IC level.

Varley is great at getting out in front of his man as an outlet the past 3 matches in 2020 and he played well for about 45 minutes, lovely mark that he scored from in the first half that he called before he even had the ball in hand. Being ultra critical he still flubbed on 3 balls played into him in the first half that he should have absolutely controlled and made stick, given the amount of long passes Galway are now looking to play forward and the greater likelihood of losing possession as a result from this more difficult skill to execute, anything that should be caught up there simply must be.

Shane Walsh pure class again today from open play and is clearly going to be targeted by the opposition so PJ needs to do what Dublin and Kerry are old hands at by using plamas/pressure as required to get the message through to refs that he needs to be protected from sledgers on the pitch. On a less happy note he missed a right footed near gimme free off the outside of the post again. Rock and O'Shea miss nothing, he isn't in this calibre as a free taker and Galway really need someone to be.

Galway shot conversion rate went through the floor in the second half, M Daly, Brannigan and a few more missed really good opportunities after good work to put them in the position to execute. Galway have to tidy this up. Finnerty showed beautiful composure for his goal in the first half, the same was required for his point that should have been a low, hard shot to the back of the net. Didn't cost Galway today but against the best of the Division they have to be nailed.

Saw a tweet that Monaghan were denied a goal when a Galway player (assuming Gleeson or Mulkerrin, I'm trying to think back when it could have occurred) went over the line with the ball, is there any validity to that claim at all? Massive, game changing mistake by the officials if true.

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 07:47:13 PM
Another thing that was blatantly obvious today was Monaghan's tactic of using their runner (fella in the yellow bib) to fill space on the pitch around the 50 on almost all of our kick outs for the last 20 mins or so of today's game.  Our sideline were very naive in not bringing it to the refs attention or at least dealing with him themselves.  It's definitely something that needs to be clamped down on.  Sherlock for Dub was a master at it under Gavins reign. 

Huge bugbear of mine the past couple of years, the Kerry minor team runner in the semi final last year was the biggest disgrace I've seen but the Monaghan buck was doing his best to match him today.

Quote from: charlie linkbox on January 26, 2020, 08:58:07 PM
No, I can't let this narrative go unchallenged, that Galway were somehow superior throughout and that Deegan kept Monaghan in it.

He was bad, but Monaghan felt it too. We won a free along the sideline in the second half your your selector with the orange bib encroached on the field, got involved with Kieran Hughes (he knew the right man to target anyway, I'll give him that) and Deegan throws the ball up. Your defender (Heaney was it?) wrestles McManus to the ground as Monaghan break up the field in the second half and..... nothing. Your No. 6 lay down for a minute or two during stoppage time at the end of the game. Was the time added on?...... No.

Also, I'll see your couple of goal chances (that you got points out of by the way) and I'll raise you a missed penalty, a goal chance for Jack McCarron saved in the first half, the mark taken by Kieran Hughes on the edge of the square in the second half where he hit it on the turn and it went just wide, the chance from Christopher McGuinness at the end that was saved on the line by one of your backs......... my point being that on another day we hit two or three goals too and win the game.

It was a very even entertaining game and in my opinion Monaghan left at least one point behind us today.

Absolutely agree that Monaghan had more than enough chances to get a result, Galway could have very easily lost today but any suggestion that Galway did better out of or broke even from Deegan's decisions over the 81 minutes is frankly absurd, he couldn't possibly have added on any more time for ye at the end either.

Quote from: charlie linkbox on January 26, 2020, 08:58:07 PM
No, I can't let this narrative go unchallenged, that Galway were somehow superior throughout and that Deegan kept Monaghan in it.

He was bad, but Monaghan felt it too. We won a free along the sideline in the second half your your selector with the orange bib encroached on the field, got involved with Kieran Hughes (he knew the right man to target anyway, I'll give him that) and Deegan throws the ball up. Your defender (Heaney was it?) wrestles McManus to the ground as Monaghan break up the field in the second half and..... nothing. Your No. 6 lay down for a minute or two during stoppage time at the end of the game. Was the time added on?...... No.

Also, I'll see your couple of goal chances (that you got points out of by the way) and I'll raise you a missed penalty, a goal chance for Jack McCarron saved in the first half, the mark taken by Kieran Hughes on the edge of the square in the second half where he hit it on the turn and it went just wide, the chance from Christopher McGuinness at the end that was saved on the line by one of your backs......... my point being that on another day we hit two or three goals too and win the game.

It was a very even entertaining game and in my opinion Monaghan left at least one point behind us today.

Just watched the highlights. Unclear if that monaghan shot was over the line. Didnt have a good camera angle. Speaking of the ref how did he miss the galway pulling at the 2nd half throw in. Nearly ripped the jersey off the monaghan midfielder. Galway went straight down and got a point and probably should have got a goal

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He’s far better than Murphy already and only 21. Imagine how good he’ll be at 22.

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 26, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
Saw a tweet that Monaghan were denied a goal when a Galway player (assuming Gleeson or Mulkerrin, I'm trying to think back when it could have occurred) went over the line with the ball, is there any validity to that claim at all? Massive, game changing mistake by the officials if true.

They just showed it there. Didn't look over the line anyway and the umpires couldn't have had a much better view of it. Granted they usually don't see much at the best of times.

Seen it myself there, no possibility of knowing for sure so I think it's a bit much for any Monaghan fan to suggest it was definitely a goal.

Great write up An Fhairce, always enjoy reading them and think you're spot on with most/all written there.

@Charlie, I can definitely see the point that Monaghan missed plenty, given Mccarrons chance, the pen (was the foul, if one, not outside? Not seen it back) and the Hughes chance. Can you claim a mark from a delivery from a free though?

In saying that I thought Galway were the better team fairly comfortably. They created 5 goal chances, and more chances overall from less possessions, given the Beggan kicking exhibition. A number of easy point chances missed. Monaghan needed wonder frees from McManus and one from Beggan. I know that's to be expected with those two wonder players but in open play I thought Galway were a fair bit better. Deegan rode Galway aswel, no question about that. It was a more inexperienced Galway team also missing plenty of players, to counteract the advantage of being at home

Plenty of time added on also. 5 mins added and he played 7.40 I think. Thought it would never end

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 26, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
Only Round One of the league but it looks like Galway will have a huge job on to ensure they remain in Division One, could easily and maybe should have lost that match today on the balance of chances, those two points will be crucial in hopefully staying up.
I was at the Dublin-Kerry match last night as well and the difference in standard to the two teams in Salthill today was stark, I wouldn't give them a prayer in Kerry next week going by the matches this weekend. We badly need Monaghan and Meath to keep losing the rest of the way anyway.

Deegan has been highlighted here already but he was simply ridiculous in the second half. After the (by rule completely correct) black card he decided that Monaghan would need as much help as possible to even it up. Monaghan were pulling and dragging off the ball all day long, got called for it once. Galway couldn't buy a free for about twenty minutes and it took a pure dirt hit by Carey on Shane Walsh after the ball was long gone before Deegan then figured it was time to maybe play the game by rule again and Galway got a scorable free literally 20 seconds later. The injury time was definitely more than 5 minutes but if he left it to 7 minutes that would have been the maximum possible I'd have thought, the way things were going I was flabbergasted that he didn't just give Monaghan the free in after the hop ball on the 21 as it looked for all the world that he was dying to get the match to a draw.

Gleeson is clearly an excellent shot stopper, that was a good save from the penalty, and he is a much more imposing figure than the likes of Power or Lavelle between the sticks.
The most important factor is the kickout though and the jury is really out there, I'd give him a bit of a pass because the movement outside of him is nonexistent but the trajectory on his kicks is a bit too flighty as it is.
The only well worked kickout all day was when there was a load of space left in the middle and Walsh ran from the opposition half to cleanly mark it between the 45 and the 65, although I suspect this was Walsh just making the run when he saw the space rather than a designed play, either way they need to get more of this happening or Galway will be short of the Super 8s again this year. Just pumping it out and expecting Conroy, Comer and D'Arcy to pluck Hollywood catches from the skies as they each did on occasion today is a recipe for long term failure. Beggan in contrast gave a kick out masterclass at the other end, it's not all down to them but Beggan and Cluxton provide such an advantage to their respective teams in this area.

Midfield wasn't great today outside of the kickout either, Conroy hit a nice score but himself and D'Arcy are too one paced to play together and neither has the engine of Flynn, they would be killed on a faster track later in the year.

John Daly was excellent and Mulkerrin very good at FB, and they'll have to keep that up every match because we're wide open at the back and getting a lot of trouble from deep runners now without the blanket, a better team than Monaghan would have filleted Galway on several of the overlap chances they had. McDaid getting into it much more today, one terrible kick pass to no one in the first half aside.
Gary O'Donnell unsurprisingly was far better out in his usual position than he was on his brief trial in the full back line.

Boyle doesn't look up to this level at all based on his appearances to date, no surprise he was hooked straight away in the first half after another mistake when he hung around waiting for the ball to come to him and got blown out of it by the Monaghan back, you get no time for that type of play at Senior IC level.

Varley is great at getting out in front of his man as an outlet the past 3 matches in 2020 and he played well for about 45 minutes, lovely mark that he scored from in the first half that he called before he even had the ball in hand. Being ultra critical he still flubbed on 3 balls played into him in the first half that he should have absolutely controlled and made stick, given the amount of long passes Galway are now looking to play forward and the greater likelihood of losing possession as a result from this more difficult skill to execute, anything that should be caught up there simply must be.

Shane Walsh pure class again today from open play and is clearly going to be targeted by the opposition so PJ needs to do what Dublin and Kerry are old hands at by using plamas/pressure as required to get the message through to refs that he needs to be protected from sledgers on the pitch. On a less happy note he missed a right footed near gimme free off the outside of the post again. Rock and O'Shea miss nothing, he isn't in this calibre as a free taker and Galway really need someone to be.

Galway shot conversion rate went through the floor in the second half, M Daly, Brannigan and a few more missed really good opportunities after good work to put them in the position to execute. Galway have to tidy this up. Finnerty showed beautiful composure for his goal in the first half, the same was required for his point that should have been a low, hard shot to the back of the net. Didn't cost Galway today but against the best of the Division they have to be nailed.

Saw a tweet that Monaghan were denied a goal when a Galway player (assuming Gleeson or Mulkerrin, I'm trying to think back when it could have occurred) went over the line with the ball, is there any validity to that claim at all? Massive, game changing mistake by the officials if true.

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 07:47:13 PM
Another thing that was blatantly obvious today was Monaghan's tactic of using their runner (fella in the yellow bib) to fill space on the pitch around the 50 on almost all of our kick outs for the last 20 mins or so of today's game.  Our sideline were very naive in not bringing it to the refs attention or at least dealing with him themselves.  It's definitely something that needs to be clamped down on.  Sherlock for Dub was a master at it under Gavins reign. 

Huge bugbear of mine the past couple of years, the Kerry minor team runner in the semi final last year was the biggest disgrace I've seen but the Monaghan buck was doing his best to match him today.

Quote from: charlie linkbox on January 26, 2020, 08:58:07 PM
No, I can't let this narrative go unchallenged, that Galway were somehow superior throughout and that Deegan kept Monaghan in it.

He was bad, but Monaghan felt it too. We won a free along the sideline in the second half your your selector with the orange bib encroached on the field, got involved with Kieran Hughes (he knew the right man to target anyway, I'll give him that) and Deegan throws the ball up. Your defender (Heaney was it?) wrestles McManus to the ground as Monaghan break up the field in the second half and..... nothing. Your No. 6 lay down for a minute or two during stoppage time at the end of the game. Was the time added on?...... No.

Also, I'll see your couple of goal chances (that you got points out of by the way) and I'll raise you a missed penalty, a goal chance for Jack McCarron saved in the first half, the mark taken by Kieran Hughes on the edge of the square in the second half where he hit it on the turn and it went just wide, the chance from Christopher McGuinness at the end that was saved on the line by one of your backs......... my point being that on another day we hit two or three goals too and win the game.

It was a very even entertaining game and in my opinion Monaghan left at least one point behind us today.

Absolutely agree that Monaghan had more than enough chances to get a result, Galway could have very easily lost today but any suggestion that Galway did better out of or broke even from Deegan's decisions over the 81 minutes is frankly absurd, he couldn't possibly have added on any more time for ye at the end either.

Great report as usual.
Your match reporting and honest insight in Galway football during the year are always very interesting.

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 26, 2020, 09:33:37 PM

Shane Walsh pure class again today from open play and is clearly going to be targeted by the opposition so PJ needs to do what Dublin and Kerry are old hands at by using plamas/pressure as required to get the message through to refs that he needs to be protected from sledgers on the pitch. On a less happy note he missed a right footed near gimme free off the outside of the post again. Rock and O'Shea miss nothing, he isn't in this calibre as a free taker and Galway really need someone to be.

Shane is an 80% free taker. The problem is he's 80% whether it's a 14 yarder straight in front or a 35 yard kick from near the sideline!!

This has happened way too many times now to be fluke. He can't keep his concentration or something. Surely we could let another good kicker, say Varley, or even Ian Burke at a push, take all the very simple ones in around the goal. Let Shane keep trying to nail the tough ones but leave the gimmes. He's missed at least a dozen of them over the years. There's average players in my club who've never missed one of them

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 26, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Got chatting to some Kerry lads after the game. Their attitude was that thecref treated it like an u12 game movi g thst free up. not happy.

That said, cracking game for January

I thoroughly enjoyed it as a game as well.

some serious attacking talent on both teams who actually looked to attack at every opportunity,

When played like that Gaelic football is well worth the watch.

Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?   

Quote from: Main Street on January 27, 2020, 10:25:33 AM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?   

so what, does it matter what kind of a game it was . there always a 'Pitch invasion' after matches in castle bar . kids meet the player and every one elde hangs arounf for a chat . it makes the day much more sociable,

Much rather that than the feckers who leave the match with 5 minutes to go no mater what the score is .
saw it again in ballybofey when Donegal were just  a point up the started streaming home .
hope they feel stupid Today

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that's the way it should be.  Don't see the problem with it to be honest. 

Relying on the highlights and match reports unfortunately, great match reports as usual from AFA. I thought Monaghan would win before hand, they pretty much had their best team out there and from reports sounded like they'd more work done.

Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final; Don't see that at all, I'll be happy just to stay up given there's been a complete change in style which obviously takes time and games to get right. We've all commented on here about the issue with kickouts for several years, Power is a very good kicked of the ball but doesn't matter if the movement isn't there. From the reports it doesn't sound like Galway did too well on Beggans kickouts, was he able to get quick kick outs away or was it simply down to movement? I was stood behind the goals 18 months ago when Monaghan beat Galway and his kickouts were brilliant, not much difference in him and Cluxton, you'd think there was nothing on but out of nowhere he'd find a pocket of space

I'd like to think Galway will improve as the year goes on in terms of tracking runners as fitness and awareness improves but it will take time and plenty of pain in the short term for Galway to get it right at the back. Ultimately Galway are going to have to find new personnel to close the gap to the top.

Enda Tierney had a fantastic game in the club final Saturday night, interesting to see if he gets called up. Looked in better physical condition when he was on the Galway panel a few years ago and looked a bit more mobile. I thought Matthew was quiet enough, not sure if he's ready to make an impact for the seniors just yet. You can tell by his frame he'll fill out but he's a long way off where Sean O'Shea was at last year physically when he was still u20.

Is Duggan gone for the season?

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.

Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"

Where was Peter Harte yesterday? He fecked up my fantasy team!

He still on honeymoon Benny.

Think he left before the Kerry game last year.

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that's the way it should be.  Don't see the problem with it to be honest.

Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"

The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.   

The kids invade the pitch after every home game hurling and football looking for photos and autographs, obviously they are accompanied by parents as well. Sure the PA had to specifically ask patrons not to go on the pitch after the hurling match because it was a double header. That's a match against noted hurling superpower Westmeath as well.
Making a meal about it for whatever reason - disappointment at the result of a January league match maybe? - is the only alarm bell ringing that I can hear.

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that's the way it should be.  Don't see the problem with it to be honest.

Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"

The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

As has been said several times - it's a bunch of primary school kids looking for autographs/photos with the players ffs.

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that's the way it should be.  Don't see the problem with it to be honest.

Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"

The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

As has been said several times - it's a bunch of primary school kids looking for autographs/photos with the players ffs.

https://youtu.be/v4tMcHUHTI4

Dad leading his daughters on their first pitch invasion

They even run into the most famous pitch invader if the past 20 years mid way through

Is he more famous than the Louth fan in 2010?

Quote from: MayoBuck on January 27, 2020, 09:09:36 PM
Is he more famous than the Louth fan in 2010?

I would say yes

Few people outside Louth would know the names or would recognize the faces of the group of people who surrounded the referee in 2010

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that's the way it should be.  Don't see the problem with it to be honest.

Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"

The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

Galway had a total of 4 starters from their last championship game, and 6 league debutants. I'd say most fans were pleasantly surprised they could beat, what was by all accounts, a Monaghan first 15.

Quote from: southtyronegael on January 27, 2020, 05:00:00 PM
He still on honeymoon Benny.

The selfish fecker!!! Doesn't he know we need him home for our FF teams ffs

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that's the way it should be.  Don't see the problem with it to be honest.

Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"

The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

Galway had a total of 4 starters from their last championship game, and 6 league debutants. I'd say most fans were pleasantly surprised they could beat, what was by all accounts, a Monaghan first 15.

How did that last championship game go for ye ?

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that's the way it should be.  Don't see the problem with it to be honest.

Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"

The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

Galway had a total of 4 starters from their last championship game, and 6 league debutants. I'd say most fans were pleasantly surprised they could beat, what was by all accounts, a Monaghan first 15.

How did that last championship game go for ye ?

We got beaten. How's every championship season of your life ended for you?

It's a bit scary that you're 30+. Sad little man

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Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?

Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that's the way it should be.  Don't see the problem with it to be honest.

Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"

The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

Galway had a total of 4 starters from their last championship game, and 6 league debutants. I'd say most fans were pleasantly surprised they could beat, what was by all accounts, a Monaghan first 15.

How did that last championship game go for ye ?

Are you naturally condescending or only on internet message boards?
That's the type of juvenile post Syferus would have been proud of.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 27, 2020, 11:49:22 AM

Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.

I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.

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Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.

I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.

The difference this time round though is that Galway are under a new manager with a de facto new playing style. To reach a final again under such circumstances would mean probably beating one of Dublin (showing no signs of taking it easy) or a Kerry team hoping to push on again this season. A big ask. I think yesterday's 'invasion' (which happens after every game in Pearse stadium) was a natural reaction to winning a very tight match. One of the big takeaways from yesterday was that at last Galway played football their fans could care about.

Bit of a curious match yesterday from a Tribes viewpoint. Individually, all the defenders looked quite good, yet as a collective they were under a lot of pressure, especially in the closing stages. This probably due to drawbacks further out the field; a new inexperienced midfielder in D'Arcy and one, Conroy, whose legs just can't carry him about the field so well nowadays. Allied to this, you had a HF line who weren't tracking back too well or working hard enough to stop the runners coming through. I pointed out here last week my misgivings about the 2 wing-forwards. Boyle didn't go well but Ml. Daly was quite disappointing; he just doesn't have the pace to beat a player one-on-one with the ball. I think he'll be under real pressure to start come c'ship time. On the plus side, his brother looks quite good at no. 6, while captaincy seems to suits Shane Walsh; thought he really stood up yesterday and demanded the ball when the going got tough. One shameful high and late hit on him after he had delivered the ball should have yielded red.

Onwards to Tralee.

With PJ on board Galway will be unstoppable this year. It's only a matter of time before the media get wise to this.

Quote from: highorlow on January 28, 2020, 10:08:34 AM
With PJ on board Galway will be unstoppable this year. It's only a matter of time before the media get wise to this.

they have been ender achieving for the last few years. I think they have not looked padded beating mayo and feel their season is a success if they do that .
Boxcar's son may be the missing piece of the Jigsaw

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Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.

I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.

The difference this time round though is that Galway are under a new manager with a de facto new playing style. To reach a final again under such circumstances would mean probably beating one of Dublin (showing no signs of taking it easy) or a Kerry team hoping to push on again this season. A big ask.

It would be a minor miracle for Galway to make it through to league final given the upheaval in both the players who are out on the pitch and the major change in the tactical approach, I cannot understand how anyone would be tipping them for a league final.

Quote from: mouview on January 27, 2020, 11:27:30 PM
One of the big takeaways from yesterday was that at last Galway played football their fans could care about.

I think it's very likely that Galway will take a fair clipping or two in this league while adjusting to a very different playing method, I wouldn't be waiting on Galway's fickle football fans to have any patience when this happens just because they are enamoured with the style of play.

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Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 27, 2020, 11:49:22 AM
Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.

I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.

The difference this time round though is that Galway are under a new manager with a de facto new playing style. To reach a final again under such circumstances would mean probably beating one of Dublin (showing no signs of taking it easy) or a Kerry team hoping to push on again this season. A big ask.

It would be a minor miracle for Galway to make it through to league final given the upheaval in both the players who are out on the pitch and the major change in the tactical approach, I cannot understand how anyone would be tipping them for a league final.

Quote from: mouview on January 27, 2020, 11:27:30 PM
One of the big takeaways from yesterday was that at last Galway played football their fans could care about.

I think it's very likely that Galway will take a fair clipping or two in this league while adjusting to a very different playing method, I wouldn't be waiting on Galway's fickle football fans to have any patience when this happens just because they are enamoured with the style of play.

All very true AFA and the first of those "clippings" is very likely this coming Sat evening in Tralee based on the 2 teams' respective performances over the weekend.  We are a long way off the standard that was on view in CP.

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Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 27, 2020, 11:49:22 AM
Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.

I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.

The difference this time round though is that Galway are under a new manager with a de facto new playing style. To reach a final again under such circumstances would mean probably beating one of Dublin (showing no signs of taking it easy) or a Kerry team hoping to push on again this season. A big ask.

It would be a minor miracle for Galway to make it through to league final given the upheaval in both the players who are out on the pitch and the major change in the tactical approach, I cannot understand how anyone would be tipping them for a league final.

Quote from: mouview on January 27, 2020, 11:27:30 PM
One of the big takeaways from yesterday was that at last Galway played football their fans could care about.

I think it's very likely that Galway will take a fair clipping or two in this league while adjusting to a very different playing method, I wouldn't be waiting on Galway's fickle football fans to have any patience when this happens just because they are enamoured with the style of play.

All very true AFA and the first of those "clippings" is very likely this coming Sat evening in Tralee based on the 2 teams' respective performances over the weekend.  We are a long way off the standard that was on view in CP.

100% - we are going to take a beating before too long. We probably don't have defenders who are good enough in 1v1 defending situations to play such an open game. I couldn't make Pearse on Sunday but from talking to the brother and other friends who were there and would know their football reasonably well - it seems as if tracking runners from deep was a massive problem which led to defenders having to hold their ground and allow the easy tap over point to avoid conceding a goal chance on the overlap.
This along with the kickouts seem to be two areas we need to tighten up on.
But it's early days so hopefully we can improve in these areas before championship.
In reality we have got an easy draw - New York and home to Sligo to make a Connacht final is what Pj would have wanted.

Watching the first half of the Galway game the last day, it was playing Tyrone in particular that I was thinking i'd be afraid of. The Roscommon Super 8's game 2 years ago where they tore them asunder with deep runners is a perfect example. They've done similar against plenty of teams, Cavan last year, Cork the year before etc. Donegal would be scary in that regard also, and obviously Dublin.

While Kerry's half backs and MF are plenty capable, I think theyre more likely to play an orthodox football game against us and let it in long. Which doesn't bode well either given theyve the most dangerous forward line we've seen in a long while. Like others, I can see a couple of pastings in the league. Thankfully the win on Sunday should put them in position to stave off relegation while continuing the experiment

Any truth to Horan and McDonald leaping around the place celebrating Mayo's draw on the weekend?

I do laugh when the pundits comment how the Dubs & Kerry players are only back from holiday and won't be as fit as the other teams, what a load of nonsense. Ciaran Kilkenny didn't even go out the day after winning the All Ireland, these lads would have looked after themselves on holiday. Parkinson & Spillane were at the same wedding the week before xmas and talked about the Kerry panellist who wouldn't have a drink at the wedding.

Watched most of the Donegal Mayo game last night, Donegal should have 7 or 8 points clear at half time; They were so dominant until AOS came on although Paton went very long on a lot of kickouts which Mayo ended up winning. Mullin looks a future top player although they've got their work hanging onto him. O'Hora looks good, excellent kicker of the ball but don't know whether he'll be quick enough on harder ground. Conroy had a bigger impact than Walsh, O'Donoghue & Reape put together, liked the look of him.  Donegal have a lot of good younger players, as long as Murphy hangs around they'll be knocking on the door in the next few years.

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Any truth to Horan and McDonald leaping around the place celebrating Mayo's draw on the weekend?

No but they did have a smile from ear to ear

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With PJ on board Galway will be unstoppable this year. It's only a matter of time before the media get wise to this.

they have been ender achieving for the last few years. I think they have not looked padded beating mayo and feel their season is a success if they do that .
Boxcar's son may be the missing piece of the Jigsaw

If you class winning 2 Connacht titles in 4 years, become establish division 1 team and reaching a first All Ireland semi final for 17 years as underachieving what do you call 2009 to 2014 where Galway ended up as a middle of the road Div 2 team with no provincial titles won?

Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

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Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

These early team announcements are great, gets people discussing the games if nothing else. Good to see Steede get his chance, hopefully it goes well for him, he's earned it in fairness. It'll be interesting to see how he fares out at the next level. Surprised to see Comer start, there's never a full 70 in him. Same back 6 as the last day which is a worry up against those Kerry forwards. Think Duane is only keeping that corner warm for Liam Silke. Not too sure about the thoughts of Johnny Heaney up against O'Donoghue either  ???

Quote from: Duine Eile on January 28, 2020, 11:28:15 PM

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2020, 10:27:11 PM
Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

These early team announcements are great, gets people discussing the games if nothing else. Good to see Steede get his chance, hopefully it goes well for him, he's earned it in fairness. It'll be interesting to see how he fares out at the next level. Surprised to see Comer start, there's never a full 70 in him. Same back 6 as the last day which is a worry up against those Kerry forwards. Think Duane is only keeping that corner warm for Liam Silke. Not too sure about the thoughts of Johnny Heaney up against O'Donoghue either  ???

Comer needs the game time now. Missed all last year pretty much. Doubt he'll last the whole match though. Probably off after 50 minutes or so.

Heard Silke interviewed on Parkinson's podcast there recently. More or less admitted he doesn't like playing corner back but Galway have quite a few options at wing-back. Not so much in the corners.

Quote from: Duine Eile on January 28, 2020, 11:28:15 PM

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2020, 10:27:11 PM
Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

These early team announcements are great, gets people discussing the games if nothing else. Good to see Steede get his chance, hopefully it goes well for him, he's earned it in fairness. It'll be interesting to see how he fares out at the next level. Surprised to see Comer start, there's never a full 70 in him. Same back 6 as the last day which is a worry up against those Kerry forwards. Think Duane is only keeping that corner warm for Liam Silke. Not too sure about the thoughts of Johnny Heaney up against O'Donoghue either  ???

Whatever about the viability of Duane in the corner long term, we need to pump the brakes on bigging up the likes of Silke until they actually play up to reputation at inter county level. A phenomenal club player without doubt but he's done very little at all in a Galway jersey, he wasn't even on the panel for the most successful season we've had since 2001 in 2018. He was last seen for Galway getting absolutely cleaned out in successive championship matches against Roscommon and Mayo. At least we've seen the much maligned Kerin and Wynne put in good shifts in big championship matches on occasion, Silke getting MOTM against a Sligo team that couldn't beat anyone last year doesn't count for much when it's followed up by being the worst outfield player against Mayo in a proper knockout match.
We'd all love the Corofin players to bring their on pitch success and fantastic club performances with them into the Galway team but outside of Burke in 17/18 none of them have been great in a Galway jersey so far, in mitigation it's far from ideal coming into the Galway setup late every year after a hugely demanding club campaign, maybe with the restructure of the calendar this year it'll give them a better opportunity to perform well at inter county level. The incompatible style of play excuse is certainly gone now.

Wouldn't judge Steede purely on the basis of just the next game, very difficult situation to go straight in away to Kerry with basically a rookie alongside him as well. Midfield, HF and FF line have never played as selected before for Galway either, big ask to get anything out of the match.

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 29, 2020, 09:07:42 AM

Quote from: Duine Eile on January 28, 2020, 11:28:15 PM

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2020, 10:27:11 PM
Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

These early team announcements are great, gets people discussing the games if nothing else. Good to see Steede get his chance, hopefully it goes well for him, he's earned it in fairness. It'll be interesting to see how he fares out at the next level. Surprised to see Comer start, there's never a full 70 in him. Same back 6 as the last day which is a worry up against those Kerry forwards. Think Duane is only keeping that corner warm for Liam Silke. Not too sure about the thoughts of Johnny Heaney up against O'Donoghue either  ???

Whatever about the viability of Duane in the corner long term, we need to pump the brakes on bigging up the likes of Silke until they actually play up to reputation at inter county level. A phenomenal club player without doubt but he's done very little at all in a Galway jersey, he wasn't even on the panel for the most successful season we've had since 2001 in 2018. He was last seen for Galway getting absolutely cleaned out in successive championship matches against Roscommon and Mayo. At least we've seen the much maligned Kerin and Wynne put in good shifts in big championship matches on occasion, Silke getting MOTM against a Sligo team that couldn't beat anyone last year doesn't count for much when it's followed up by being the worst outfield player against Mayo in a proper knockout match.
We'd all love the Corofin players to bring their on pitch success and fantastic club performances with them into the Galway team but outside of Burke in 17/18 none of them have been great in a Galway jersey so far, in mitigation it's far from ideal coming into the Galway setup late every year after a hugely demanding club campaign, maybe with the restructure of the calendar this year it'll give them a better opportunity to perform well at inter county level. The incompatible style of play excuse is certainly gone now.

Wouldn't judge Steede purely on the basis of just the next game, very difficult situation to go straight in away to Kerry with basically a rookie alongside him as well. Midfield, HF and FF line have never played as selected before for Galway either, big ask to get anything out of the match.

For sure - Steede needs a run of games to show what he can do. This is his very first start ever for the Galway senior footballers.
Michael Daly needs to start producing or his hold on a starting jersey will loosen pretty quickly.
Kerry is a great test for this team. Roll on Saturday.

Id always be very wary of lads getting a chance based on Club performance . each year a new club comes along and does well there are call of most of them to be Promoted to the county team .
I happened in Mayo with Knockmore, ballina, and crossmolina but with a a few game with the odd exception the new guys were  dropped one by one until only the guys who would have made it anyway were remaining .
Steede was fantastic  in the final but he was hardly an unknown entity before that so is it a case he has been mistreated of just had one exceptional game?

For Steede to date there has been a mixture of both not getting an opportunity at times and of him not committing to the county setup. Whether he can make the step up is hard to know, pace wise he certainly isn't the ideal for IC standard but the league is there for trying lads out against proper competition, no better acid test than Kerry away for a start.

I think Steede is being put in straight away as Galway are short of bodies in the midfield sector due to current injuries and player unavailability, in addition the Conroy/D'Arcy midfield tandem did not look good enough against Monaghan, although that's only on the basis of one match in fairness to them both. Certainly for the moment Paul Conroy looks like he is going to have a much greater impact coming into the game as opposed to starting, while the likes of Maitias Ó Bairéid is only just out of U20. I would imagine Comer will also be tasked with trying to make an impact around this sector until his legs go in the second half, certainly as he wasn't positioned in the FF line last Sunday, lined up more at wing forward where he played underage.

Quote from: galwayman on January 29, 2020, 09:17:36 AM
Michael Daly needs to start producing or his hold on a starting jersey will loosen pretty quickly.

This is certainly the case, good for a couple of scores in a match along with one or two other nice plays but he is completely inconsistent and not the type of impactful player that he looked like coming out of U21. His excellent performance as a 2nd half substitute in the 2017 League final is nearly the best outing he's had in a Galway jersey and I can't recall if he had even togged for the Seniors before that.

Quote from: rosnarun on January 29, 2020, 10:16:36 AM
Id always be very wary of lads getting a chance based on Club performance . each year a new club comes along and does well there are call of most of them to be Promoted to the county team .
I happened in Mayo with Knockmore, ballina, and crossmolina but with a a few game with the odd exception the new guys were  dropped one by one until only the guys who would have made it anyway were remaining .
Steede was fantastic  in the final but he was hardly an unknown entity before that so is it a case he has been mistreated of just had one exceptional game?

I'm sure he'll get a bit of a run in the league but considering no other Corofin player is included, it's safe to put this one down to sheer necessity. Flynn, Duggan, O'Currain injured, Cooke away. Presuming he thinks Conroy doesnt have the legs for Kerry or soemthing could be amiss there also. He's probably more of a forward for the rest of his career anyway. Tbh the other midfielder Darcy is too inexperienced for a game like this, so it tells its own story when he's the one people are questioning least.

Unless we get our injuries sorted we're going to struggle to earn a single point. Bad enough to lose our keeper in the warm up against Tyrone but for our 2nd and 3rd choice keepers to be so under prepared is not good enough for this level. Still we had enough possession and opportunities to salvage something but we don't have the Type of players available to take on a blanket defense which Donegal could easily revert to this weekend. Hopefully Andy has been giving the mark some thought this week because we'll need it.

Quote from: Manning18 on January 29, 2020, 12:32:30 PM

Quote from: rosnarun on January 29, 2020, 10:16:36 AM
Id always be very wary of lads getting a chance based on Club performance . each year a new club comes along and does well there are call of most of them to be Promoted to the county team .
I happened in Mayo with Knockmore, ballina, and crossmolina but with a a few game with the odd exception the new guys were  dropped one by one until only the guys who would have made it anyway were remaining .
Steede was fantastic  in the final but he was hardly an unknown entity before that so is it a case he has been mistreated of just had one exceptional game?

I'm sure he'll get a bit of a run in the league but considering no other Corofin player is included, it's safe to put this one down to sheer necessity. Flynn, Duggan, O'Currain injured, Cooke away. Presuming he thinks Conroy doesnt have the legs for Kerry or soemthing could be amiss there also. He's probably more of a forward for the rest of his career anyway. Tbh the other midfielder Darcy is too inexperienced for a game like this, so it tells its own story when he's the one people are questioning least.

Steede will perform well I can imagine, afterall Kerry aren't that strong in midfield and especially without David Moran.

Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

Ahh Lar will you stop interfering in the Herrins forum  :D
They seem to be getting pretty excited about things since young Joycheen took over

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 29, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

I think there is only so much Galway talk as they seem to be naming the team so early on Tuesday's this year. The last few years I think it was only named late Thursday or Friday night. Depending on if it was a Saturday or Sunday game.

Now we have a team out but nobody else does until later in the week so there ya go.

Quote from: thejuice on January 29, 2020, 02:00:02 PM
Unless we get our injuries sorted we're going to struggle to earn a single point. Bad enough to lose our keeper in the warm up against Tyrone but for our 2nd and 3rd choice keepers to be so under prepared is not good enough for this level. Still we had enough possession and opportunities to salvage something but we don't have the Type of players available to take on a blanket defense which Donegal could easily revert to this weekend. Hopefully Andy has been giving the mark some thought this week because we'll need it.
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By my observation, Donegal ended up with four or five injuries against Mayo, be surprised if any of them start, throw that in with the previously missing and they may well struggle.
I have no idea how Meath are, but would assume they would be competitive at home.

Monaghan v Tyrone at Clones, is not much different to holding a family garden party but with an imposed mandate that an ogre element be invited out of a misplaced courtesy.  Fortunately our record in the NFL against the Tyrone horde is good and this time  the impact of  Banty's backroom team should kick in to good effect. 

Hopefully Banty's horde turn up in Clones and we'll take the forfeited points whilst sitting on ogre arses over in Blaney!!

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 29, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You'd have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

Odds 30 Jan

Dublin 13/8
Kerry   3/1
Galway 8/1
Tyrone 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Donegal 10/1
Monaghan 40/1
Meath 150/1


The divisions are said to be evenly matched

Quote from: omagh_gael on January 29, 2020, 07:41:40 PM
Hopefully Banty's horde turn up in Clones and we'll take the forfeited points whilst sitting on ogre arses over in Blaney!!

Class!!

Quote from: seafoid on January 30, 2020, 08:53:18 AM
Odds 30 Jan

Dublin 13/8
Kerry   3/1
Galway 8/1
Tyrone 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Donegal 10/1
Monaghan 40/1
Meath 150/1


The divisions are said to be evenly matched

Hmmm, I would suggest that that the football divisions are pretty evenly matched with Cork in Div 3 possibly being the exception.  There were two Div 1 games in Pearse Stadium last Sunday, 1 was a good competitive match, the other wasn't even a good training session.  I'm not expecting a win in Tralee on Sat night but I am hoping that we will be at least competitive and I would also be hopeful of giving the Dubs a good rattle in Pearse Stadium later on, similar to their last visit.  I like the football league structure, even allowing for the time of year its played etc.

Quote from: larryin89 on January 29, 2020, 07:48:32 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 29, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You'd have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

It was Jim Gavins Dublin that Mayo couldn't beat surely with him gone, early February with Dublin not long back for their Holidays and the match played in MacHale Park is ideal opportunity for Mayo to win?

I see the media are all-out trying to force this Dublin Kerry rivalry into existence, despite Kerry having not beaten the Dubs in Championship since 2009. Outlets like OTB have only covered the Dublin vs. Kerry game from last weekend and appear to be only discussing the games involving those two this coming weekend.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 30, 2020, 12:34:15 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on January 29, 2020, 07:48:32 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 29, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You'd have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

It was Jim Gavins Dublin that Mayo couldn't beat surely with him gone, early February with Dublin not long back for their Holidays and the match played in MacHale Park is ideal opportunity for Mayo to win?

I'd love to agree with you but I can't see it happening. Mayo won't be able to field anything near the full championside and they don't have the same quality of reserves as Dublin.
I like the look of some of the new faces on show in Ballybofey but Dublin looked sharp the last day and with most of the side anxious to stake their claim with the new manager, they won't be lacking motivation.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 30, 2020, 03:31:02 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 30, 2020, 12:34:15 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on January 29, 2020, 07:48:32 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 29, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You'd have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

It was Jim Gavins Dublin that Mayo couldn't beat surely with him gone, early February with Dublin not long back for their Holidays and the match played in MacHale Park is ideal opportunity for Mayo to win?

I'd love to agree with you but I can't see it happening. Mayo won't be able to field anything near the full championside and they don't have the same quality of reserves as Dublin.
I like the look of some of the new faces on show in Ballybofey but Dublin looked sharp the last day and with most of the side anxious to stake their claim with the new manager, they won't be lacking motivation.

Have to agree. The performance in Ballybofey wouldn't do against the Dubs either. Hard to see a Mayo win, a tight loss would be ok I'd imagine. A hammering would be terrible.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 03:45:02 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 30, 2020, 03:31:02 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 30, 2020, 12:34:15 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on January 29, 2020, 07:48:32 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 29, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You'd have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

It was Jim Gavins Dublin that Mayo couldn't beat surely with him gone, early February with Dublin not long back for their Holidays and the match played in MacHale Park is ideal opportunity for Mayo to win?

I'd love to agree with you but I can't see it happening. Mayo won't be able to field anything near the full championside and they don't have the same quality of reserves as Dublin.
I like the look of some of the new faces on show in Ballybofey but Dublin looked sharp the last day and with most of the side anxious to stake their claim with the new manager, they won't be lacking motivation.

Have to agree. The performance in Ballybofey wouldn't do against the Dubs either. Hard to see a Mayo win, a tight loss would be ok I'd imagine. A hammering would be terrible.

Same here unfortunately

When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 30, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\

Not after last year ( which was disgraceful i mo thuairim . )

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 30, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\

Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 30, 2020, 06:53:25 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 30, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\

Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

Out of the 71 championship games last summer there were only 5 games where a side scored less goals than the opposition and won.

On Dublin when you look at the stats in terms of the amount of goal scoring chances they create and convert, as well as looking at their overall attacking play in games, it's blatantly clear that part of their overall strategy is to score goals. I think it's one of the areas where they are a good way ahead of the competition. A lot of other sides seem far more willing to "take their points" as opposed to developing the play and getting the shot at goal off.

Quote from: twohands!!! on January 30, 2020, 07:22:40 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 30, 2020, 06:53:25 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 30, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\

Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

Out of the 71 championship games last summer there were only 5 games where a side scored less goals than the opposition and won.

On Dublin when you look at the stats in terms of the amount of goal scoring chances they create and convert, as well as looking at their overall attacking play in games, it's blatantly clear that part of their overall strategy is to score goals. I think it's one of the areas where they are a good way ahead of the competition. A lot of other sides seem far more willing to "take their points" as opposed to developing the play and getting the shot at goal off.

In 8 championship games in 2019, Kerry scored 8 goals total.  In only one game (Meath) did they hit the net twice.  The only game Kerry failed to score a goal was the only game they lost.

"Goals win games, defense wins championships"

Quote from: Ball Hopper on January 30, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.

League games are fantastic but I'd hazard a guess 2009 is the only stat that counts to Kerry .

Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 31, 2020, 06:37:09 AM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

Do you think that's the reason? Clarke is kicking the ball to Hennelly in training  ;D ;D

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 31, 2020, 06:37:09 AM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.

The memory of how well Robert Hennelly played against Dublin in the league last year probably played a part in this selection.

Quote from: Ball Hopper on January 30, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.

But in the games that actually matter Dublin are unbeaten for 11 years. Sure Tyrone and Monaghan beat Dublin in the league last year.

Quote from: joemamas on January 31, 2020, 01:43:01 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 31, 2020, 06:37:09 AM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.

the alternatives seems to have been poached in a big money transfers.
Personally I think its time to show confidence in hennelly you have to accept the odd mistake but overall hes a top class keeper with a great kick out when as Clarke has as many meltdowns  and was poor under the high ball in ballybofey.
if mullin plays fullback he going to need all the protection he can get 

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Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.

the alternatives seems to have been poached in a big money transfers.
Personally I think its time to show confidence in hennelly you have to accept the odd mistake but overall hes a top class keeper with a great kick out when as Clarke has as many meltdowns  and was poor under the high ball in ballybofey.
if mullin plays fullback he going to need all the protection he can get

Did Dublin not destroy his kickouts in the SF last year?

This has been an issue for the past 5 years and it feels like nothing has been done about it - either in terms of trying someone new or working with the two that are there and trying to improve their obvious weaknesses.

no there were strategies that went arseways  , but we have no better striker of the ball.   lets face it Clarke has an even worse record in that regard like landing the ball on connollys head and messing up 32 other kick outs when the game was in the balance and kicking  the ball out over the line wen 1 point down  with a minute left in an all Ireland Finals

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When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\

Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

19 games. Lost 17. Only won 2 and Drew the other 2. Maths not his strong point?

Quote from: rosnarun on January 31, 2020, 05:23:48 PM
no there were strategies that went arseways  , but we have no better striker of the ball.   lets face it Clarke has an even worse record in that regard like landing the ball on connollys head and messing up 32 other kick outs when the game was in the balance and kicking  the ball out over the line wen 1 point down  with a minute left in an all Ireland Finals

Strategies that went arseways? He was sprinting to get the ball kicked back out to Dublin instead of slowing it down a little ffs.

Kerry with a strong team out again. Only really missing David Moran. Have Jack Barry back.

Shane Ryan
Jason Foley
Tadhg Morley
Shane Enright
Paul Murphy
Gavin Crowley
Gavin White
Liam Kearney
Jack Barry
Gavin O'Brien
Sean O'Shea
Stephen O'Brien
James O'Donoghue
David Clifford
Paul Geaney

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 31, 2020, 08:34:38 PM
Kerry with a strong team out again. Only really missing David Moran. Have Jack Barry back.

Close to a first-choice championship team yes, probably a couple more besides Moran missing though.  Definitely Tom O'Sullivan would replace Enright in defence.  In the forwards, Gavin O'Brien has a bit to go to be a starter.  Kerry do seem to be going strong from the very start of the league.

Dublin team for tomorrow night

Evan Comerford; Eric Lowndes, David Byrne, Rory O'Carroll; James McCarthy, John Small, Eoin Murchan; Brian Fenton, Brian Howard; Niall Scully, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny; Kevin McManamon, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock.

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 31, 2020, 10:21:30 PM
Dublin team for tomorrow night

Evan Comerford; Eric Lowndes, David Byrne, Rory O'Carroll; James McCarthy, John Small, Eoin Murchan; Brian Fenton, Brian Howard; Niall Scully, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny; Kevin McManamon, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock.

What's the story with Cormac Costello this year - is he involved in the squad currently?

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 31, 2020, 10:21:30 PM
Dublin team for tomorrow night

Evan Comerford; Eric Lowndes, David Byrne, Rory O'Carroll; James McCarthy, John Small, Eoin Murchan; Brian Fenton, Brian Howard; Niall Scully, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny; Kevin McManamon, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock.

Holy gawd we are going to be murdered .

Throw-in at Pairc Tailteann is at 2.00pm.

Meath (FL1 v Donegal):

Barry Dardis;

Robin Clarke,
Conor McGill,
David Toner;

James McEntee,
Ronan Ryan,
Donal Keogan;

Bryan Menton,
Brían Conlon;

Ben Brennan,
Bryan McMahon,
Eamon Wallace;

Cillian O'Sullivan,
Thomas O'Reilly,
Joey Wallace.


Strong enough defensively. Midfield ok. Forwards quite under strength. Dardis back in goals, not sure if that's a bad sign that we haven't found a proper sub keeper.

Mayo subs maybe a few starters there?

Clarke
Stretton
McCormack
Eoin O Donoghue
David Kenny
Tom Parsons
Aidan O Shea
Bryan Walsh
Conor Loftus
Brian Reape
Darren Coen
Tommy Conroy
Lee Keegan

Dublin subs

16.Michael Shiel
17.Sean Bulger
18.Aaron Byrne
19.Michael Fitzsimons
20.Liam Flatman
21.Conor McHugh
22.Conor Mullaly
23.Dan O Brien
24.Eoin O Brien
25.Cillian O Shea
26.Paddy Small

Quote from: Blowitupref on February 01, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
Mayo subs maybe a few starters there?

Clarke
Stretton
McCormack
Eoin O Donoghue
David Kenny
Tom Parsons
Aidan O Shea
Bryan Walsh
Conor Loftus
Brian Reape
Darren Coen
Tommy Conroy
Lee Keegan

Dublin subs

16.Michael Shiel
17.Sean Bulger
18.Aaron Byrne
19.Michael Fitzsimons
20.Liam Flatman
21.Conor McHugh
22.Conor Mullaly
23.Dan O Brien
24.Eoin O Brien
25.Cillian O Shea
26.Paddy Small

Eoin O Donoghue is a quality defender.

Any streams for eir sports?

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Quote from: Blowitupref on February 01, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
Mayo subs maybe a few starters there?

Clarke
Stretton
McCormack
Eoin O Donoghue
David Kenny
Tom Parsons
Aidan O Shea
Bryan Walsh
Conor Loftus
Brian Reape
Darren Coen
Tommy Conroy
Lee Keegan

Dublin subs

16.Michael Shiel
17.Sean Bulger
18.Aaron Byrne
19.Michael Fitzsimons
20.Liam Flatman
21.Conor McHugh
22.Conor Mullaly
23.Dan O Brien
24.Eoin O Brien
25.Cillian O Shea
26.Paddy Small

Eoin O Donoghue is a quality defender.

If there was an all star award for shit analysis,
Brolly, Mark o Shea (worst of the three) and Andy Moran, they would have it locked up already for the year.

A O Shea starting for Mayo

Poor enough compared to last week. Heavy training kicking in.

That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

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That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

The more I looked at it the worse it got. Sort of a box.

Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Red all day long!

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Can't believe anyone thinks it's a red. Yellow everyday. 3 commentators and the presenter even said a yellow.

Late 1-1 from Kerry sneaks the win in Tralee...final score Kerry 1-15 Galway 2-11.

Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.

 Great effort by Galway, Shane Walsh to the fore for them again. Dublin v Mayo not the best of games but the sending off certainly didn't help.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2020, 08:37:48 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.

Yeah McDaid wasn't let on after his ten minutes were up as Gleeson was preparing to take a kick out.
Kerry kicked the winner from the next play.
Sounds like we were caught out trying to play keep ball at the back for the Kerry goal.
It seems we got a good performance though and this will be a good learning experience for that team.
On another note - that is Cillians third black card in 4 games this year - he really needs to sort that indiscipline out.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2020, 08:37:48 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.

A tough defeat to take on the chin but that performance against a near full strength Kerry is encouraging for Galway.

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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2020, 08:37:48 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.

A tough defeat to take on the chin but that performance against a near full strength Kerry is encouraging for Galway.

Just noticed that Buff Egan was covering the game so watched his highlights there. We missed at least 3 great goal chances too.

Barry the ref  grabbed centre stage  with bald headed desperation,   "dem crazy baldheads"

Galway lost that match rather than Kerry winning it, appalling standard of finishing in the first half when at least 2-2 was left behind, crazy self inflicted mistake for the second Kerry goal and while Nolan gave McDaid a correct black card which was crucial to the result, the exact same foul on Flynn in the middle of the half resulted in nothing for the Kerry player. If the foul on Comer in the box happened at the other end it would have definitely been called a peno.
Shane Walsh was by a distance the best player on the pitch for either side and yet he still made a hames of two very scorable chances in the first half, one a mark which should have been nailed.

Very frustrating result given how the match turned out, it's absolutely two points fucked away. Great crowd and perfect conditions for football out there tonight.

Very boring game in Castlebar, loads of lateral passing from both sides.

Never a red for me, yellow all day after seeing the replays

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Ach now come on. In no way that was a cheap shot. Mayo deluding themselves? Maybe you should ask how Dublin only scored a handful of points  (some of which were soft frees) against a 14 man mayo team in 35 min of football.

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Dublin weren't exactly excelling themselves either anywhere on the pitch before the red card. I do agree with regards the Mayo forwards, how many wides from 'scorable' frees and indeed overall? But the red card and the goal changed the game in my opinion. I'm not saying that we would have won it but it would probably mean the Dubs having to up the tempo a bit.

Probably a boring game for the neutrals watching it.

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Ach now come on. In no way that was a cheap shot. Mayo deluding themselves? Maybe you should ask how Dublin only scored a handful of points  (some of which were soft frees) against a 14 man mayo team in 35 min of football.

+1.
Red card ( 9 times out of 10 a yellow) decided the game early. After that it was only a matter of how much Dublin would win by. Unfortunate for the large attendance that showed up, but that's the way it goes. Good night out ruined.
Under the circumstances I was happy enough with how Mayo did. Put it to bed and move on.

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Dublin weren't exactly excelling themselves either anywhere on the pitch before the red card. I do agree with regards the Mayo forwards, how many wides from 'scorable' frees and indeed overall? But the red card and the goal changed the game in my opinion. I'm not saying that we would have won it but it would probably mean the Dubs having to up the tempo a bit.

Probably a boring game for the neutrals watching it.

Why the f**k did Diarmuid not kick all the frees? Better striker of the ball than Cillian or anybody else.
Once the red card happened it was over anyway so it is just about the housekeeping bits that are the most damaging in the long run.
Most Mayo players played very well. If I were Horan I would be happy out. That result tonight means f**k all. Going forward Mayo's biggest concern is keeping Ruane and Mullin. Mullin class again tonight.

How did the trouble on the terrace start tonight?

Quote from: highorlow on February 01, 2020, 11:40:24 PM
How did the trouble on the terrace start tonight?

Trouble?

Aye, skelping going on behind the goals, looked like local teens v middle aged Dubs

The booing by the mayo supporters was a disgrace and has no place in gaa.

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Dublin weren't exactly excelling themselves either anywhere on the pitch before the red card. I do agree with regards the Mayo forwards, how many wides from 'scorable' frees and indeed overall? But the red card and the goal changed the game in my opinion. I'm not saying that we would have won it but it would probably mean the Dubs having to up the tempo a bit.

Probably a boring game for the neutrals watching it.

Why the f**k did Diarmuid not kick all the frees? Better striker of the ball than Cillian or anybody else.
Once the red card happened it was over anyway so it is just about the housekeeping bits that are the most damaging in the long run.
Most Mayo players played very well. If I were Horan I would be happy out. That result tonight means f**k all. Going forward Mayo's biggest concern is keeping Ruane and Mullin. Mullin class again tonight.

Agree totally. Where is Ruane? I thought I heard his name mentioned on the radio playing against Galway in the FBD, but he wasn't named last week or this week.

Quote from: giveballaghback on February 01, 2020, 11:51:59 PM
The booing by the mayo supporters was a disgrace and has no place in gaa.

Yes , don't like it myself , booing officials is out of order , booing a free kick is also wrong but targeting a player and booing him the whole game in a soccer style culture is fo o kin disgusting and only once have I witnessed that .

QuoteYes , don't like it myself , booing officials is out of order , booing a free kick is also wrong but targeting a player and booing him the whole game in a soccer style culture is fo o kin disgusting and only once have I witnessed that

The animals ? Last year?

Quote from: highorlow on February 01, 2020, 11:48:11 PM
Aye, skelping going on behind the goals, looked like local teens v middle aged Dubs

I stood behind the goals myself, had great craic with the Dubs around me I must say. I didn't see what started it, but what was concerning from my point of view was the amount of Dubs running down to see what was happening, young and old, why bother run down when it's none of your business. I don't think anyone got hurt as the Gardaí were there early.

If I was handed a 1pt defeat and a good performance prior to our game in Tralee I would have taken it no bother, however, in the context of last nights game we definitely left that one behind us and badly so at that.  To have created so many chances in the first half and taken so few was extremely disappointing with Shane and Damien being to the fore in that regard.  The longer the game progressed in the 2nd half we were definitely in the ascendency and making Kerry look quite rudderless at times.  Walsh was now in full flow and by a distance the outstanding player on view.  Once again, Cillian had another brain fart and we just did not manage that 10 min period when we were down to 14 very well at all, turned over too much ball in our own back line and were constantly outing ourselves under pressure. 
A very enjoyable game of football overall and a cracking atmosphere to boot  in Tralee - very wet drive home though!!! Onwards we go to Letterkenny.

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Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card

Anti-Dublin? I'm the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Dublin weren't exactly excelling themselves either anywhere on the pitch before the red card. I do agree with regards the Mayo forwards, how many wides from 'scorable' frees and indeed overall? But the red card and the goal changed the game in my opinion. I'm not saying that we would have won it but it would probably mean the Dubs having to up the tempo a bit.

Probably a boring game for the neutrals watching it.

Why the f**k did Diarmuid not kick all the frees? Better striker of the ball than Cillian or anybody else.
Once the red card happened it was over anyway so it is just about the housekeeping bits that are the most damaging in the long run.
Most Mayo players played very well. If I were Horan I would be happy out. That result tonight means f**k all. Going forward Mayo's biggest concern is keeping Ruane and Mullin. Mullin class again tonight.

Agree totally. Where is Ruane? I thought I heard his name mentioned on the radio playing against Galway in the FBD, but he wasn't named last week or this week.

Shoulder injury for NUIG Sigerson game a few weeks back.

Quote from: giveballaghback on February 01, 2020, 11:51:59 PM
The booing by the mayo supporters was a disgrace and has no place in gaa.

It was poor alright

Thought there were some positives for us last night but the game was over after we lost a man. O'Hora was very good again as was Plunkett. We'll need him to kick on if Boyle is out for a while. Oisin Mullin I presume is gone with the U20s next weekend and it says a lot that he'll be a big miss for the seniors vs Meath.

Coen and Diarmuid did well in midfield considering the 2 guys Dublin had there. Aidan O'Shea also had a strong 1st half but we'll need a full game out of him next weekend.

Our freetaking problems appeared again unfortunately. I'd probably start Loftus against Meath for the close range ones and let Diarmuid take the rest. When it was 15 v 15 we gave some good long kickpasses into the full forward line. That's one thing Jordan Flynn does well. James Carr won pretty much every ball that went in. I'd like to see him and Tommy Conroy start next weekend.

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 02, 2020, 09:11:09 AM
If I was handed a 1pt defeat and a good performance prior to our game in Tralee I would have taken it no bother, however, in the context of last nights game we definitely left that one behind us and badly so at that.  To have created so many chances in the first half and taken so few was extremely disappointing with Shane and Damien being to the fore in that regard.  The longer the game progressed in the 2nd half we were definitely in the ascendency and making Kerry look quite rudderless at times.  Walsh was now in full flow and by a distance the outstanding player on view.  Once again, Cillian had another brain fart and we just did not manage that 10 min period when we were down to 14 very well at all, turned over too much ball in our own back line and were constantly outing ourselves under pressure. 
A very enjoyable game of football overall and a cracking atmosphere to boot  in Tralee - very wet drive home though!!! Onwards we go to Letterkenny.

How did you think Mulkerrin and Heaney did in the fb line?

Quote from: galwayman on February 02, 2020, 01:08:00 PM

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 02, 2020, 09:11:09 AM
If I was handed a 1pt defeat and a good performance prior to our game in Tralee I would have taken it no bother, however, in the context of last nights game we definitely left that one behind us and badly so at that.  To have created so many chances in the first half and taken so few was extremely disappointing with Shane and Damien being to the fore in that regard.  The longer the game progressed in the 2nd half we were definitely in the ascendency and making Kerry look quite rudderless at times.  Walsh was now in full flow and by a distance the outstanding player on view.  Once again, Cillian had another brain fart and we just did not manage that 10 min period when we were down to 14 very well at all, turned over too much ball in our own back line and were constantly outing ourselves under pressure. 
A very enjoyable game of football overall and a cracking atmosphere to boot  in Tralee - very wet drive home though!!! Onwards we go to Letterkenny.

How did you think Mulkerrin and Heaney did in the fb line?

I thought they both did well and Mulkerrin especially considering the quality of ball that was going in to Clifford in the first half.  A forward of Cliffords quality will kick scores all day if he get a good service.    Once Galway repelled the initial Kerry attack they were very good and pushing them out beyond the 45 and were quite successful in turning them over.  John Daly again was excellent and is really turning into a cornerstone of our defence.  Overall a very good performance and just a pity we didn't at least take a point out of it which would have been deserved. 

Meath 0-04
Donegal 0-01

Donegal missed a peno, saved by Marcus Brennan who started in goal.

Meath 0-04
Donegal 2-02

McGill on a black card. Donegal have had 3 penalties scoring 2.

Quote from: thejuice on February 02, 2020, 03:07:04 PM
Meath 0-04
Donegal 2-02

McGill on a black card. Donegal have had 3 penalties scoring 2.

1 from 2 penalties, first goal was from open play.

Quote from: thejuice on February 02, 2020, 03:07:04 PM
Meath 0-04
Donegal 2-02

McGill on a black card. Donegal have had 3 penalties scoring 2.

Only 2 pens mentioned on radio. Murphy scored one, missed one

Ok. Misheard on LMFM. Thought they said the first goal was a penalty

Meath 0-05
Donegal 3-04

According to Highland Radio, Murphy lucky to not get a red.

3-5 to 0-6

Monaghan beat tyrone by 4.
Assuming donegal see it out vs meath its hard to see any way back for meath. Anyone's guess as to who the other team to go down will be

Hardly worth a Banty fist pump but some joy as Tyrone were run ragged in Blayney.

Quote from: straightred on February 02, 2020, 03:54:04 PM
Monaghan beat tyrone by 4.
Assuming donegal see it out vs meath its hard to see any way back for meath. Anyone's guess as to who the other team to go down will be

It's never as straight forward as you'd think , Meath beat our bucks next Sunday and we are favourites to drop .

I don't think we're beating anyone sadly. You can't compete at the highest level with a makeshift forward line. We really quickly run out of ideas against a packed defense and don't have the individuals available to make something happen. Newman if fit could do something but we won't have him at all i the league.

It sounded like the referee bottled it and gave Murphy a yellow but I'm sure there'll be a hundred different opinions on it.

Quote from: Main Street on February 02, 2020, 03:54:29 PM
Hardly worth a Banty fist pump but some joy as Tyrone were run ragged in Blayney.

It was telling of Monaghans dominance that the entire spine of the Tyrone team, bar Brennan, was off by the middle of the second half.

Gonna be a struggle to stay up now for Tyrone. Very tough run of games to come. Piss poor today.

Quote from: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 08:49:17 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2020, 08:37:48 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.

Yeah McDaid wasn't let on after his ten minutes were up as Gleeson was preparing to take a kick out.[/b]
Kerry kicked the winner from the next play.
Sounds like we were caught out trying to play keep ball at the back for the Kerry goal.
It seems we got a good performance though and this will be a good learning experience for that team.
On another note - that is Cillians third black card in 4 games this year - he really needs to sort that indiscipline out.

Was there a stoppage/delay after the black card was given but before play resumed ? - for an injury or something - the clock on the ten minutes only starts from the moment that play restarts after the black card is issued and the player has to wait until there is a break in play to come on again - it's not just a matter of once ten minutes are over they can come back on ?
Would be a pretty bad one for the 4th official to get wrong given all the recent talk about the new rules.

On the black card thing, I'd love to see the stats already in terms of them affecting games - like how much actual game time did the player miss, what sort of scoring difference have the teams with the man advantage gained, what is the record of teams who have had players black card versus the teams who haven't had anyone black-carded.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if managers start to sub off players who pick up black cards in the first half of games rather than risk picking up a yellow card and a straight red down the stretch.

Quote from: southtyronegael on February 02, 2020, 06:31:00 PM
Gonna be a struggle to stay up now for Tyrone. Very tough run of games to come. Piss poor today.

Any word on Cathal McShane - saw an article that said he was meeting Harte this weekend and that Adelaide were keen to sign him.
You'd think if he wasn't heading to Oz he'd have had some sort of involvement today given he was in the crowd for the Meath game.

Quote from: southtyronegael on February 02, 2020, 06:31:00 PM
Gonna be a struggle to stay up now for Tyrone. Very tough run of games to come. Piss poor today.

Tyrones league from does be all over the place. How many years have they started slowly playing as you say piss poor and then hit good form whereby they are capable of beating any team in this division as seen with the win over Dublin in Croke Park last year

If Meath lose all their games, 6 points could well be the safety mark.

It's meath and an other

Do ye not think Meath will beat out ladeens or at least give them a chance of doing so ? There is nothing to suggest we are better than Meath. 

Quote from: thejuice on February 02, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
I don't think we're beating anyone sadly. You can't compete at the highest level with a makeshift forward line. We really quickly run out of ideas against a packed defense and don't have the individuals available to make something happen. Newman if fit could do something but we won't have him at all i the league.

It sounded like the referee bottled it and gave Murphy a yellow but I'm sure there'll be a hundred different opinions on it.

Watching it on TG4, I reckon a yellow was fair, and consistent with how the rest of the game was reffed.

Meaths defence was solid, but lacked any kind of cutting edge up front.

15 thousand people travelled to MacHale Park last night and all of them may as well have gone home again after 15 minutes due to the rash decision by Barry Cassidy. Everyone makes mistakes but the fact that he didn't even consult with his linesman was particularly poor. It's pointless analysing the game after that because the contest was as good as over.

From a Mayo point of view, one thing that has to be mentioned is the goal keeping issue. Rob Hennelly had a decent game last night and it's clear he's great kicker of a ball (when the squeeze isn't on him). He wasn't really at fault for the goal yesterday but at the same time, it was the type of goal that Clarke rarely concedes as Clarke usually takes man and ball out of it. I was looking at some stats recently and they don't lie. Excluding games against New York and London, Rob hasn't kept a clean sheet in championship since the Connacht Final in 2014. Last year, out of 71 matches across the championship, only on 5 occasions did the team that conceded more goals win. Conceding goals has been killing Mayo for the last decade and while the blame can't be fully placed with Rob, it's clear that a big mistake is never too far away with him. Last night he dropped another high ball that on another day could easily have gone in. I don't want to slate the lad because I'm sure he puts in hours every week but if we play him again come championship, it is going to end in tears...and the blame is going to rest with James Horan.

i still think we should have semi final beetween 2nd and 3rd

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 24, 2020, 02:40:57 PM
Odds for topping winning the league:

Dublin 11/8
Kerry 3/1
Donegal 7/1
Mayo 8/1
Tyrone 8/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Meath 50/1

To be relegated:

Meath 2/5
Monaghan 11/8
Galway 5/2
Tyrone 11/4
Mayo 3/1
Donegal 7/2
Kerry 8/1
Dublin 33/1

The bookies think Meath are a cert to go down with any one of the next 5 along with them.

Was just looking at the fixtures and Tyrone have a tough draw this year, home to Meath in the first round which presumably Meath will be fired up for and after that they have 4 away games plus home games against Dublin & Kerry.

Odds for winning the league outright:

Dublin 5/6
Kerry 9/4
Donegal 11/2
Mayo 28/1
Tyrone 20/1
Galway 12/1
Monaghan 25/1
Meath 500/1

To be relegated:

Meath 1/33
Monaghan 9/4
Galway 7/2
Tyrone 5/2
Mayo 15/8
Donegal 15/2
Kerry 50/1
Dublin 200/1

Quote from: Eire90 on February 02, 2020, 10:21:53 PM
i still think we should have semi final beetween 2nd and 3rd

Yes, especially if Dublin finish third. That is revenue that could be lost.

Quote from: macdanger2 on February 02, 2020, 11:00:33 PM

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 24, 2020, 02:40:57 PM
Odds for topping winning the league:

Dublin 11/8
Kerry 3/1
Donegal 7/1
Mayo 8/1
Tyrone 8/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Meath 50/1

To be relegated:

Meath 2/5
Monaghan 11/8
Galway 5/2
Tyrone 11/4
Mayo 3/1
Donegal 7/2
Kerry 8/1
Dublin 33/1

The bookies think Meath are a cert to go down with any one of the next 5 along with them.

Was just looking at the fixtures and Tyrone have a tough draw this year, home to Meath in the first round which presumably Meath will be fired up for and after that they have 4 away games plus home games against Dublin & Kerry.

Odds for winning the league outright:

Dublin 5/6
Kerry 9/4
Donegal 11/2
Mayo 28/1
Tyrone 20/1
Galway 12/1
Monaghan 25/1
Meath 500/1

To be relegated:

Meath 1/33
Monaghan 9/4
Galway 7/2
Tyrone 5/2
Mayo 15/8
Donegal 15/2
Kerry 50/1
Dublin 200/1

You could argue that Mayo's odds are too long (value) in both cases

Relying on highlights Galway really did miss a whole host of goal chances.

Did Duane get hooked early on because of poor performance? Sean Kelly did a good job at full back against Monaghan last year, wouldn't mind him getting a run as corner back.

How did D'Arcy & Steede do in the middle?

I thought the Mayo sending off was harsh but not really surprising. It's part of the sanitising of gaelic football that has been taking place year on year. It's long past the stage of being a physical contact sport where yellow cards are now doled out for fairly trivial personal fouls and in the process bringing down the threshold for what is deemed a red card offence. Colm O'Rourke could now be in bother with RTE after making a fairly throwaway remark about pansy boys as the PC brigade come out in force to attack him. Given RTEs recent propensity for political correctness it wouldn't surprise me if he too now faces the axe. 

Quote from: yellowcard on February 03, 2020, 10:52:38 AM
I thought the Mayo sending off was harsh but not really surprising. It's part of the sanitising of gaelic football that has been taking place year on year. It's long past the stage of being a physical contact sport where yellow cards are now doled out for fairly trivial personal fouls and in the process bringing down the threshold for what is deemed a red card offence. Colm O'Rourke could now be in bother with RTE after making a fairly throwaway remark about pansy boys as the PC brigade come out in force to attack him. Given RTEs recent propensity for political correctness it wouldn't surprise me if he too now faces the axe. 

very much people looking for offence , a pansy boy to is a soft mummys boy who goes down howling at the slightest touch ie. a tiernan McCann ytpe , nothing to do with Homosexuality

There's a bit too much backslapping elsewhere online from Galway people about the return to playing good football in a match that we lost and should have won, Kerry were down some key men like O'Shea, Morley, O'Sullivan and Moran as well so no point in getting carried away with what was ultimately a loss to a Kerry team not at full tilt.
Some fans taking the usual plámás/bullshit from Kerry about "traditional football" - while they've undeservedly mugged Galway for two points - as some sort of meaningful compliment is a mentality we could do without, Kerry don't care a jot what way they have to play the game once they win.

And there's nothing surer than Kerry won that game Saturday when they shouldn't have even got a draw out of it, while it is only the league how many times do we see Kerry or Kilkenny win matches they have absolutely no right to on the balance of play? They are ruthless winners but also have an inner belief from all the years of expecting to win every match. For Galway in both codes it's very much the opposite, to beat the likes of them by the bare minimum point we seem to have to play to the level of a 5 or 6 points better team. Galway were about a 3/4 point better team overall on Saturday and still lost.
Galway football needs to get in the habit of seeing out matches like that, while much of this is down to experience, situational preparation has to come into it as well. We know that Dublin account for these specific match situations in training with the team a man down chasing a score, 13 on 15 defending a lead, etc.
Surely Joyce will take this hard lesson and get Galway to try and adapt better to those game management situations at the end of matches, we still have to remember I suppose that it's a sharp learning curve for the man in charge as well no matter how good or bad he'll turn out as a manager, there's very little previous experience there.
I was happy to hear him come straight out after the match and say that it was our own fault as Galway had more than enough chances, that we were the better team and it was Galway losing rather than Kerry winning, because he is correct on all counts. While some are wary of his bullishness so far in terms of some of his statements, personally I think it's refreshing to hear a manager just come out and call it like it is, he has a winning mentality and that's what the Galway players need to genuinely believe themselves to get to the top.

While a good performance would been taken beforehand and Galway were thankfully very competitive, there's a huge amount of improvement and things to clean up from that match and also the Monaghan game.
The amount of high, aimless balls pumped into the forwards at times was bizarre, hospital passes is the correct term. While it's great that we are now trying to get the ball into the scoring zone as quickly as possible, when the ball genuinely isn't on at all, there's no point basically just kicking it away which happened more than it should have the last day.
The balance of trying to successfully defend the opposition while more numbers stay up front isn't quite there yet either. Kerry got in easily enough for a number of their chances, particularly in the first half so there's plenty of improvement needed in keeping the score down.
Kickouts still have a long way to go as well.

The single biggest thing that needs to improve though is the finishing, the approach play at times has been a joy to watch but the end result must be a score.
Galway lost a game they should have won and the main reason is the exact same problem that cost Galway umpteen times under Kevin Walsh as well, this lack of execution in front of the posts.
Laid bare the litany of misses from the match in the first half alone is simply not good enough:
Ó Laoi from a mark - no pressure and about 30 yards out, hopelessly kicked high up into the air;
Michael Daly dragged a good chance across the goal with a poor shot, need to hit the target at least;
Shane Walsh bad wide from play:
Shane Walsh mark on the 21, a handy kick that he should have nailed instead of putting just wide on the near post;
Ó Laoi goal chance which should have been stuck, at this level they need to be basically gimmes;
Great Comer goal chance from a high ball in where he didn't connect with his shot at all through a combination of losing his footing and being pulled by the Kerry player.

Even the first score of the game for Galway from Comer should have been into the back of the net instead of over the bar. People are raving about the turnaround in approach and about the quality of the forwards but until that Galway team starts consistently hitting a conversion rate that approaches what Dublin usually get, they will still lose games no matter what playing system is employed. Moving forward hitting only 6/16 chances, as in the first half in Tralee, simply isn't going to cut it.
Shot selection plays a key role here as well and the likes of the low percentage chance that Heaney took with the outside of the boot in the second half which never got near the goal and sailed wide, has to be stamped out. Even the huge point that McDaid scored, great that it went over but it was about a 2/10 chance, is that really a shot that should be taken on in the first place?

On the pitch, certainly for the moment I wouldn't change the goalkeeper, he is a much, much better shot stopper than anything we've had there in a long time. Way more presence and size in the box than the likes of Power. Nice dispossession of O'Brien at a crucial stage at the end of the match as well.
I do say "for the moment" though because the kick outs have to improve and if Gleeson can't show development through the league on this then maybe it will be time to chance someone else. Galway lost two kickouts to hop balls under the rule where players cannot be in the semi circle, the second one resulted in a handy free in and point for Kerry and it was particularly bad because Sean Kelly just walked across into the area while the kick was being driven out, a very costly mistake.
It was disappointing not to see some set plays for the kicks when Galway were under severe pressure trying to hold on down the stretch and Kerry were coming in waves.

Galway FB line had a very difficult assignment for the night and at the start of the match I thought they were going to get cleaned out altogether.
In fairness to the Galway backs, Clifford is something else when given any bit of space, Mulkerrin (or any back in the country) left completely isolated one on one against a top player like that is just in damage limitation mode.
Heaney and Mulkerrin had some nice pass break ups and takeaways in the second half, generally played Kerry tighter and better as well. Mulkerrin did however make a key mistake by giving the ball away for the Kerry goal out on the sideline, it was compounded by his being totally out of position as a result. He has had a reasonable start to his Senior career though, he's certainly a better athlete at the position than SAOC was last year.

Following on from the Dublin match, James O'Donoghue looks to be back into great form and was some handful. It was a preplanned manoeuvre to take him off at ht apparently and Kerry really missed him in the second half, it certainly eased the pressure on Galway because I thought Tommy Walsh was far less of a threat up front. I'm left wondering how much of the Galway defensive improvement after the break was down to the absence of O'Donoghue in the 2nd period, he was just that dangerous in the 1st. If he is back to anything approaching his FOTY form with Clifford alongside him - watch out the rest of the country.
Duane was hooked after only 20 minutes, tough to see but at least the sideline seem like they are going to be decisive in substituting players that are not performing on the day. Kelly did a bit better after his introduction but still had two very costly mistakes, once losing possession under no pressure with a terrible attempt at a solo and the other for not knowing or remembering the kick out rule which directly resulted in a point for Kerry.

For me John Daly is the first man on that Galway team sheet outside of the captain, another fine performance again in Kerry. His general play is a lesson on how effective a player can be by simply always executing the most basic fundamental skills of the game - tackling, kicking, positioning etc. to a consistently high level. He won't show up on any highlights package because flashy play or scoring (as of yet) is not his game but this young lad is a serious footballer.

Gary O'Donnell had a good game, was heavily involved in a lot of the play. In the long term to have any chance of getting to the level of Dublin and Kerry I think G'OD will have to be a bench option with hopefully the likes of Molloy improving the position for Galway, but as a leader and a pro out there on the pitch, Gary is an outstanding servant to Galway football.

McDaid is in the ridiculous position of having received a black card in 3 out of 4 matches this year. FBD cards don't count to a match suspension from the accumulated cards but it is still crazy stuff.
Ultimately that black card in the final ten minutes was the deciding factor in costing Galway the game, the unnecessary nature of it was the most frustrating thing, in possession of the ball in an area where Kerry can't hurt you out by the halfway sideline, lose it badly and then clearly drag the player who's dispossessed you to the ground.
What makes it so unfortunate is that McDaid is getting more and more into it as he goes, he clearly has the capability to be a genuinely top class inter county player and should be a vital player for Galway this year but he won't be trusted with a starting position if he can't avoid the black card.

Steede wasn't in the game at all really, different ballgame required at this level even if he has been recently dominating the top club midfields. I said before the match that judgement couldn't be made on the basis of that one match in Kerry so hopefully he'll kick on during the rest of the league. Has to be noted though that Flynn immediately improved the play in this area once he was in.
D'Arcy played better than Steede but I thought midfield was maybe the one area of the pitch that Kerry definitely shaded Galway. Such a pity that Cooke is unavailable given how this Galway team is now trying to play, I think he'd thrive out there.

Brannigan had the shooting boots on in Tralee with 0-3 from play, had a good game in general play outside of that. Heavily involved in the build up to the first goal and his pace always makes him tricky for the opposition when he's on it. The problem is that he is so inconsistent with his accuracy, if he could just sort that out he'll definitely be starting come the summer as he presents a tough match up for any HB when on form.

Comer was in and out of the match, hard to know how he's really recovered from that very serious ankle injury, early days yet but he offers something so different and effective for Galway that it's vital to get him back to 2018 form.

Finnerty wasn't in the game at all and no surprise to see he didn't reappear after half time. While I admire the confidence in throwing Matthew Tierney straight into that match, this gamble completely backfired as he didn't get a kick in the second half and looked lost out there. Varley was far more effective when he entered the match and should have been the sub made at ht.

While his brother is going from strength to strength, Michael Daly is going in the opposite direction. It's very evident that a lack of sufficient pace to get away from tackles and to get into space to work the shot is really his biggest problem at Senior inter county. He worked hard, is generally good for a point most matches and was certainly better than against Monaghan but for a player we expected great things of, it's just not happening to that level, I doubt he'll start come championship unless there is a huge turnaround. Varley should absolutely be starting ahead of him on form this year.

While there's been errors with free taking in the two matches, that aside Shane Walsh is playing out of his skin, the best player on that pitch Saturday night. Absolutely majestic with the ball in hand, he is really worth any admission fee to watch. Galway need him to maintain this level of play and stay injury free but if he can do that the sky is the limit for the summer, speed kills out there and he is as quick with the ball in hand as without.

The McDaid black card was the correct call from referee Anthony Nolan but you have to laugh when the likes of Tony Leen in the Examiner rated the referee's performance as "did absolutely fine." A similar foul on Flynn went completely unpunished, even a couple of extremely partizan Kerry fans beside me in the terrace expected the black card to be issued. The lack of consistency is the most infuriating thing, I knew McDaid was gone as soon as he fouled but it should be the same for both sides. Although it would have been extremely soft penalty if given for the slight pulling on Comer when going for goal in the first half, I do wonder if it happened at the other end would he have run up to the goal with the two arms stuck out. He gave a 45 for O'Donnell going out over the end line when he was literally pushed over it by two Kerry hands to the back, obvious calls like that which aren't correctly made are inexplicable
Shouldn't be too surprised that Nolan is the same ref who rode Cork sideways in the Munster final last year with an absurd 27-11 free count difference, Kerry fans will be keeping a close eye on the referee appointments later in the year for the big championship matches hoping that Anthony Nolan will be there for them, as he definitely won't do them any harm, the only thing he missed for them was a blatant pick off the ground by John Daly before he played in Comer for the first Galway score.

Galway's own fault that we lost but I wish that we had more of a home advantage ourselves, given the inconsistent way the game as a whole is officiated by the men in black, it makes all the difference in tight matches. The history of poor support that the football team receive means that the type of home advantage, like Kerry have in Tralee, that can sway referees is something that we simply don't get in Pearse or Tuam. Tralee itself was a great venue under the lights, packed crowd, perfect conditions for football.

Meath look doomed for relegation already but it will be very tight for the other spot, even a point Saturday in a tough away venue would have put Galway in a great position to kick on and at least be in a position to retain Division one status as early as possible. Donegal is another tough outing, could do with picking up something from that match given that two vital points were tossed away at the weekend.

Very good post as usual AFA. Totally agree re PJ's attitude to the defeat and his bullishness in general.
The chance conversion rate has unfortunately carried on from the KW era as this killed us in so many games during his tenure.
What you say re Brannigans inconsistency in terms of shooting (he'll get 2-3 points one day and kick 5 wides the next) could equally apply to Michael Daly imo. He just kicks far too many wides from good scoring positions.
Hopefully Comer will get better as the league progresses as I know that the ankle is still troubling him somewhat currently.

Comer thrives on football. He was at his peak in the 2018 league after a proper run of Sigerson previous. I think he's on a very nice trajectory to be hitting top shape come championship provided he stays injury free. Performances for his first couple of games back are slightly ahead of where I expected.

Very good right up again AFA and good point on Cooke. I wonder is there even half a chance he could be tempted back given the general air of excitement around? This season was really one he shouldve been coming into his prime after flashes last year amid injuries.

The odds are nuts. Last week Mayo were 10/1 and Monaghan 40/1.
Today Mayo are 28/1 and Monaghan 25/1. 

Quote from: Manning18 on February 03, 2020, 04:35:03 PM
Comer thrives on football. He was at his peak in the 2018 league after a proper run of Sigerson previous. I think he's on a very nice trajectory to be hitting top shape come championship provided he stays injury free. Performances for his first couple of games back are slightly ahead of where I expected.

Very good right up again AFA and good point on Cooke. I wonder is there even half a chance he could be tempted back given the general air of excitement around? This season was really one he shouldve been coming into his prime after flashes last year amid injuries.

You can tell Comer is not back to his full explosiveness yet and is probably a good bit short of full match sharpness. Hopefully by the Summer and more game time under his belt he'll get there.

Doubt Cooke will be back this year. As far as I know he's not just gone playing a bit of ball over in the US. He's working over there as part of his qualification/career. What that is I don't know as he was still in college last year. Will be a big loss alright as he's probably the closet we have to a Brian Fenton type who can make those runs from midfield and kick over points from distance.

Id imagine Cooke's on the J Visa now that I think of it, the 1 year you get directly after finishing college. It's a one time thing also, so while i'm disappointed he's not thinking about his football at such an important year/age, that visa is a very hard one to pass up if you get the chance. I certainly regret not doing it personally

Quote from: seafoid on February 03, 2020, 05:21:21 PM
The odds are nuts. Last week Mayo were 10/1 and Monaghan 40/1.
Today Mayo are 28/1 and Monaghan 25/1.

Pie in the sky.
It's the relegation odds which are more relevant to both teams and Tyrone.

The early in the week team announcements for the Galway Senior Footballers continue, the selection for Donegal is:

1   Connor Gleeson
2   Sean Kelly
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Liam Boyle

Two changes from Kerry starting lineup with Kelly and Boyle in for Duane and Ó Laoi.

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 04, 2020, 10:10:57 PM
The early in the week team announcements for the Galway Senior Footballers continue, the selection for Donegal is:

1   Connor Gleeson
2   Sean Kelly
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Liam Boyle

Two changes from Kerry starting lineup with Kelly and Boyle in for Duane and Ó Laoi.

That's Michael Boyle rather than Liam I think?
I'm surprised he's back in tbh.

Wonder will the game even go ahead? Forecast looks very bad for Sunday.

The @Galway_GAA team to play @officialdonegal on Sunday #GAA ⬇️

Connor Gleeson
Seán Kelly
Seán Ó Maoilchiaráin
Johnny Heaney
Gary O'Donnell
John Daly
Cillian McDaid
Ronan Steede
Céin D'Arcy
Eamonn Brannigan
Damien Comer
Michael Daly
Rob Finnerty
Shane Walsh
Mikey Boyle

Quote from: galwayman on February 04, 2020, 10:21:07 PM

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 04, 2020, 10:10:57 PM
The early in the week team announcements for the Galway Senior Footballers continue, the selection for Donegal is:

1   Connor Gleeson
2   Sean Kelly
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Liam Boyle

Two changes from Kerry starting lineup with Kelly and Boyle in for Duane and Ó Laoi.

That's Michael Boyle rather than Liam I think?
I'm surprised he's back in tbh.

Yep, it was incorrect on the Galway GAA website initially, so I'm blaming them!
You're not the only one surprised he's back in the lineup either!

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 04, 2020, 10:22:45 PM
Wonder will the game even go ahead? Forecast looks very bad for Sunday.

Call it off on Saturday evening if it's in big doubt.

I thought Liam Boyle was involved with the squad in the FBD but I could have that wrong.
Was a nice wing back for the minors a few years back though quite small and light physically.
I'm glad Steede is getting another start

A good opportunity for Galway to pick up away win as Donegal are poor in O'Donnell Park.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 04, 2020, 10:22:45 PM
Wonder will the game even go ahead? Forecast looks very bad for Sunday.

The @Galway_GAA team to play @officialdonegal on Sunday #GAA ⬇️

Connor Gleeson
Seán Kelly
Seán Ó Maoilchiaráin
Johnny Heaney
Gary O'Donnell
John Daly
Cillian McDaid
Ronan Steede
Céin D'Arcy
Eamonn Brannigan
Damien Comer
Michael Daly
Rob Finnerty
Shane Walsh
Mikey Boyle

Michael Boyle starting is a surprise based on his previous outing against Monaghan where he looked well off what is required at this level.  Maybe he is showing well in training and is getting another chance to impress.

Quote from: galwayman on February 04, 2020, 10:41:13 PM
I thought Liam Boyle was involved with the squad in the FBD but I could have that wrong.
Was a nice wing back for the minors a few years back though quite small and light physically.
I'm glad Steede is getting another start

Liam Boyle was definitely named on 26 for the Monaghan league match so he's been in the camp at least.

Not surprised to see Ó Laoi make way but definitely surprised to see Michael Boyle back in there, he looked a nice bit off IC standard in the Monaghan match but maybe unfair to judge on the basis of one match, anyone who saw the match in Kerry and didn't know anything about the players would have probably put Steede in the same category.

Varley very unlucky to be out of the starting 15 again on the basis of performances in the 4 matches this year to date, he's certainly played better than Daly, Boyle and probably Finnerty as well.

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 05, 2020, 09:53:43 AM

Quote from: galwayman on February 04, 2020, 10:41:13 PM
I thought Liam Boyle was involved with the squad in the FBD but I could have that wrong.
Was a nice wing back for the minors a few years back though quite small and light physically.
I'm glad Steede is getting another start

Liam Boyle was definitely named on 26 for the Monaghan league match so he's been in the camp at least.

Not surprised to see Ó Laoi make way but definitely surprised to see Michael Boyle back in there, he looked a nice bit off IC standard in the Monaghan match but maybe unfair to judge on the basis of one match, anyone who saw the match in Kerry and didn't know anything about the players would have probably put Steede in the same category.

Varley very unlucky to be out of the starting 15 again on the basis of performances in the 4 matches this year to date, he's certainly played better than Daly, Boyle and probably Finnerty as well.

100% agree that Varley should be starting based on performances YTD.  He may be carrying a knock for this one as he was down for an extended period of time after a heavy challenge on Shane Enright the other night. 

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 04, 2020, 11:23:51 PM
A good opportunity for Galway to pick up away win as Donegal are poor in O'Donnell Park.

Haven't won there since 2014. Miserable enough record before that too.

Huge game in Navan for us on Sunday. Lose and we'll be in the relegation battle, win and we'll head into the weekend off with some momentum.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2020, 10:04:55 PM
Huge game in Navan for us on Sunday. Lose and we'll be in the relegation battle, win and we'll head into the weekend off with some momentum.

A Mayo win by a bit to spare I'd reckon. Meath are injury hit and don't have any strength in depth to cope.

Pretty significant wind storm forecast Saturday evening into Sunday. Chance that some games may be called off?

Quote from: omagh_gael on February 05, 2020, 11:14:16 PM
Pretty significant wind storm forecast Saturday evening into Sunday. Chance that some games may be called off?

What would it take to have the Omagh game on Saturday?  Agreement by both teams?  Would attendance be lower?

Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2020, 10:04:55 PM
Huge game in Navan for us on Sunday. Lose and we'll be in the relegation battle, win and we'll head into the weekend off with some momentum.

An beal bocht.
Meath are 500/1 to win the NFL.
Mayo are well able for them.

Quote from: omagh_gael on February 05, 2020, 11:14:16 PM
Pretty significant wind storm forecast Saturday evening into Sunday. Chance that some games may be called off?

Not the Navan game, Meath is a cold place for namby pamby pansy talk about calling a game off due to  inclement weather.

Good news for Tyrone in that Cathal McShane will linger on for the 2020 season.
Who said all those pre-game rosaries were a waste of time? With God on their side, nothing is impossible.

QuoteNot the Navan game, Meath is a cold place for namby pamby pansy talk about calling a game off due to  inclement weather.

Reported

Quote from: highorlow on February 06, 2020, 01:55:06 PM

QuoteNot the Navan game, Meath is a cold place for namby pamby pansy talk about calling a game off due to  inclement weather.

Reported

Snowflake.

Quote from: MayoBuck on February 06, 2020, 10:45:45 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

Quote from: larryin89 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:23 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on February 06, 2020, 10:45:45 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

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Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 09:39:24 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:23 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on February 06, 2020, 10:45:45 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

Have you stopped going to intercounty matches?

Quote from: Kingdom37 on February 06, 2020, 10:02:41 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 09:39:24 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:23 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on February 06, 2020, 10:45:45 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

There a thread here to arouse yourself about the jackeens

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29541.0

That's the thing! I don't hate the Dubs. I hate all the arse lickers who go around with their heads in the sand trying to pretend it's like the 90's and 00's!

Looking forward to the Dubs Knocking your county off its perch!  ;D

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 10:24:25 PM

Quote from: Kingdom37 on February 06, 2020, 10:02:41 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 09:39:24 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:23 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on February 06, 2020, 10:45:45 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

There a thread here to arouse yourself about the jackeens

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29541.0

That's the thing! I don't hate the Dubs. I hate all the arse lickers who go around with their heads in the sand trying to pretend it's like the 90's and 00's!

Looking forward to the Dubs Knocking your county off its perch!  ;D

Well be knocking the f**kers off their perch  ;D ;D Keane is building a handy team.

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Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 10:24:25 PM

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Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 09:39:24 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:23 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on February 06, 2020, 10:45:45 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

There a thread here to arouse yourself about the jackeens

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29541.0

That's the thing! I don't hate the Dubs. I hate all the arse lickers who go around with their heads in the sand trying to pretend it's like the 90's and 00's!

Looking forward to the Dubs Knocking your county off its perch!  ;D

Well be knocking the f**kers off their perch  ;D ;D Keane is building a handy team.

Looks like you're the one who needs that thread to arouse yourself about the jackeens!

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 09:39:24 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:23 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on February 06, 2020, 10:45:45 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

Part changing of the gaurd but also part player unavailability. Only 6 named above started the Dublin Semi last year. barrett/keegan/mattie/fionn mc/cillian wont be relinquishing their starting berths come Summer too easily so If even 3 or 4 of the new lads put their hand up for a starting jersey we'll be looking ok.

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 09:42:02 PM
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Keystone Group UK
Is he moving to England ?
Will the customs border cramp his style?

Monaghan Lineout v the Dubs on Sat night

R Beggan
D Wylie
C Boyle
K Duffy
K O'Connell
R Wylie
M Bannigan
D Hughes
N Kearns
R McAnespie
C McCarthy
D Ward
D Malone
C McGuinness
C McManus

Quote from: timmyot501 on February 07, 2020, 09:31:43 AM
Monaghan Lineout v the Dubs on Sat night

R Beggan
D Wylie
C Boyle
K Duffy
K O'Connell
R Wylie
M Bannigan
D Hughes
N Kearns
R McAnespie
C McCarthy
D Ward
D Malone
C McGuinness
C McManus

Kieran Hughes suspended
Colin Walshe injured?
Jack McCarron Fintan Kelly Shane Carey   subs?

The Monaghan team are in a decent shape, however the Dubs are in better shape than this time last season, maybe due to the new manager needing early validation.

David Brady's current top 5 via Off The Ball.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Tyrone
4. Galway
5. Monaghan

Good chance we'll see postponements this weekend. Wind is going to be fierce and there's a serious amount of rain coming tonight, Saturday and Sunday.

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Quote from: timmyot501 on February 07, 2020, 09:31:43 AM
Monaghan Lineout v the Dubs on Sat night

R Beggan
D Wylie
C Boyle
K Duffy
K O'Connell
R Wylie
M Bannigan
D Hughes
N Kearns
R McAnespie
C McCarthy
D Ward
D Malone
C McGuinness
C McManus

Kieran Hughes suspended
Colin Walshe injured?
Jack McCarron Fintan Kelly Shane Carey   subs?

The Monaghan team are in a decent shape, however the Dubs are in better shape than this time last season, maybe due to the new manager needing early validation.

Kieran Hughes free to play after appeal last night.

Quote from: greatpoint on February 07, 2020, 03:49:02 PM
David Brady's current top 5 via Off The Ball.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Tyrone
4. Galway
5. Monaghan

he must have forgot about Donegal

DUBLIN (SF v Monaghan)

1 Evan Comerford Ballymun Kickhams

2 Michael Fitzsimons Cuala

3 David Byrne Nh Olaf

4 Eoin Murchan Na Fianna

5 James McCarthy Ballymun Kickhams

6 Brian Howard Raheny

7 John Small Ballymun Kickhams

8 Brian Fenton Raheny

9 Ciarán Kilkenny Castleknock

10 Niall Scully Templeogue Synge Street

11 Paul Mannion Kilmacud Crokes

12 Kevin McManamon St Jude's

13 Paddy Small Ballymun Kickhams

14 Paddy Andrews St Brigid's

15 Dean Rock Ballymun Kickhams

Who's yer woman being kept warm in the middle by Cooper/McStay?

Jesus Monaghan are 9 up at halftime and have left 7 or 8 easy points out there. The dubs are a mess.

It took Dublin 22 minutes to score their first honest point.
I think Monaghan have been playing into the wind, that played a bit with their efforts to score more points from play.

Would be a big win for Monaghan this. One more win might be enough to keep them up while it's possible Dublin could beat everyone else once they bring some of their usual big hitters back.

Fair play Monaghan. Any wind in Croke Park?

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 07:49:05 PM
Fair play Monaghan. Any wind in Croke Park?

no seems to be a good calm evening.

There goes my Dublin -4 ffs

Something slightly surreal about seeing a Dublin team play so badly.

Have to imagine they will pick it up a bit in the 2nd half.

i didnt think you could make a sub after a mark

Plámás O'Se co-commentary on the TV thinks we are listening to the game on the Radio!

Jaysus Monaghan, threw away a win there, will be disgusted with how that finished up.

Superb from Dublin tbf although Monaghan will be gutted.

Thought the ref blew for a free after giving advantage in that last play but then let Dublin play on instead of bringing it back to where the original foul was. Not a big deal in a league game but would be massive in championship

Ref fairly shafted Monaghan right at the end there. That breakaway where McManus was going through and it was three on one should never have been called back.

That game there was a carbon copy of the Tyrone v Dublin league game on the same weekend 3 years ago with the exact same weather conditions.

Quote from: macdanger2 on February 08, 2020, 08:44:22 PM
Superb from Dublin tbf although Monaghan will be gutted.

Thought the ref blew for a free after giving advantage in that last play but then let Dublin play on instead of bringing it back to where the original foul was. Not a big deal in a league game but would be massive in championship

Gutted for monaghan. Ref played for a draw. To play an extra 3 min 20 seconds on top of the allocated 6mins was a joke. Didn't even allow monaghan to progress when they won the final kick out. Can say it's only the league but that was a joke

Fair enough to play three minutes but the extra 20 seconds to let Dublin score was ridiculous

Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

Six were added on. Two of them a Monaghan lad spent on the ground "injured".

Injury time v dublin = keep playing until they get a result.

Dessie is every bit as boring as Jim.

That was a draw fluked by Dublin with added assistance from Brannigan.
It was only a league game and I doubt that the result will matter much in the scheme of things but Monaghan will take some positive impetus going into the home games v Mayo and Kerry.

Quote from: gallsman on February 08, 2020, 08:53:27 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

Six were added on. Two of them a Monaghan lad spent on the ground "injured".

fair enough but he played 3min and 20 seconds. As soon a mongahn won the kick out he blew it up immediately. Not only do you have to beat the dubs but the ref as well it seems

Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 08:53:16 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I'm not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.

Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10

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Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

Six were added on. Two of them a Monaghan lad spent on the ground "injured".

fair enough but he played 3min and 20 seconds. As soon a mongahn won the kick out he blew it up immediately. Not only do you have to beat the dubs but the ref as well it seems

He gave monaghan a good number of very soft frees throughout the game. The time added on was justified I felt. Very good game given the conditions. Monaghan very impressive.

Meath v Mayo could be called off .

Monaghan always put too much emphasis into actin the boll ix, if they focused more on football tonight they would of held on.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

Time was spot on. 2 mins stopped, then 90 seconds. Equaliser was around 79.30 which was correct

Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 09:04:20 PM

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Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 08:53:16 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I'm not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.

Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10

There wouldn't have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn't spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.

No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??

Quote from: larryin89 on February 08, 2020, 09:07:29 PM
Monaghan always put too much emphasis into actin the boll ix, if they focused more on football tonight they would of held on.

True. The were same against us in 2018

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Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 08:53:16 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I'm not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.

Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10

There wouldn't have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn't spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.

No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??

::)

So you didn't notice that? no wonder with your head being stuck up Dublin's arse.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

Lads lying holding heads. Subs  strolling off the pitch and Beega n delaying restarts. Could have played another couple minutes.  McManus gave a exhibition of point kicking

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Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I'm not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.

Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10

There wouldn't have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn't spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.

No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??

::)

So you didn't notice that? no wonder with your head being stuck up Dublin's arse.

In fairness he gave Monaghan a few handy frees too.

Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
Great point.

Myne was an accurate  observation of what happened in added on time, an event which you either missed or ignored and now haven't the balls to recognise but hide behind  your default smarm.

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Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I'm not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.

Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10

There wouldn't have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn't spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.

No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??

::)

So you didn't notice that? no wonder with your head being stuck up Dublin's arse.

In fairness he gave Monaghan a few handy frees too.

In fairness, I wasn't at all referring to handy frees by the ref,  but to the ref for pulling back play after a clash when McManus was clear on goal was overly officious and then to have morons here claim it was the Monaghan player rolling around faking it which caused the added on minutes.

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Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
Great point.

Myne was an accurate  observation of what happened in added on time, an event which you either missed or ignored and now haven't the balls to recognise but hide behind  your default smarm.

You are the only one that doesn't recognise that Monaghan players were deliberately wasting time and that the ref was right to add it on. You are the only one with skin in the game.

So you did not notice that McManus was clear and pulled back for a clash?

There was 2 and a half minutes of play in the original 6 minutes signalled for injury time between injuries and the referee taking 2 minutes to dish out a few yellow cards.

Brilliant comeback by the Dubs tonight. A game like that is just what the young Dubs needed. Fair dues to Monaghan - they had a great first half, but they will know that you have to do it in both halves to win the game.

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 08, 2020, 11:01:18 PM
Brilliant comeback by the Dubs tonight. A game like that is just what the young Dubs needed. Fair dues to Monaghan - they had a great first half, but they will know that you have to do it in both halves to win the game.

Happy with that Hill. Great heart from the lads.  Young Bugler stepped up.

ok - just home. Long post mortem. Great entertainment all all that but monaghan were hosed by branigan.

Mccarthy gets a free in after taking at least 8 steps. Hughes black card for contesting why he didn't get a 45 (which clearly was a 45). The macmanus 1 on 1. Keep playing until Dublin equalise. The list goes on. Hopefully none of these things matter at the end of the day but we need better refs than that.

As someone that was shouting for Monghan throughout the game, I thought the ref was more than fair to them tbh. A number of easy frees given in the second half. The lack of play on to McManus looked bad because he was clear through but the whistle was blown for a contact foul long before that and Dubs stopped playing. Someone will have to do the clock on the injury time, went way over but a hell of a lot of the original 6 was wasted also so hard to know. I'm sure league Sunday will do it

I was at it and the conditions were awful so we have to cut everyone some slack including the ref. Having said that i think he was worth 3 points to Dublin. I may or may not be accurate but that's how it looked from my seat.

Quote from: straightred on February 09, 2020, 12:29:54 AM
ok - just home. Long post mortem. Great entertainment all all that but monaghan were hosed by branigan.

Mccarthy gets a free in after taking at least 8 steps. Hughes black card for contesting why he didn't get a 45 (which clearly was a 45). The macmanus 1 on 1. Keep playing until Dublin equalise. The list goes on. Hopefully none of these things matter at the end of the day but we need better refs than that.

Agree on the McCarthy steps. Hughes was black carded on something the linesman saw though not sure incident was. Added injury time was justified as Monaghan msn was down for 2 minutes and subs took age coming off. Monaghan deserved the win but delighted see our lads steal a draw.

Based on this game and the Dublin Kerry game, it looks like there's an effort this season to make sure that added time is added play time.  In both games 6 mins were added, and in both there was a lot of time during that 6 when the ball was dead.  And in both, the ref added 2-3 minutes on at the end.   Worked for the Dubs today, against them vs. Kerry.

That missed goal chance at the end of the 1st half probably cost Monaghan the win today.

Quote from: straightred on February 09, 2020, 12:29:54 AM
ok - just home. Long post mortem. Great entertainment all all that but monaghan were hosed by branigan.

Mccarthy gets a free in after taking at least 8 steps. Hughes black card for contesting why he didn't get a 45 (which clearly was a 45). The macmanus 1 on 1. Keep playing until Dublin equalise. The list goes on. Hopefully none of these things matter at the end of the day but we need better refs than that.

The black card was for an earlier off the ball incident according to the commentators

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Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
Great point.

Myne was an accurate  observation of what happened in added on time, an event which you either missed or ignored and now haven't the balls to recognise but hide behind  your default smarm.

You are the only one that doesn't recognise that Monaghan players were deliberately wasting time and that the ref was right to add it on. You are the only one with skin in the game.

So you did not notice that McManus was clear and pulled back for a clash?

To be fair to the ref he blew that straight away without noticing McManus was clear. He should have been more aware though

Quote from: straightred on February 09, 2020, 12:29:54 AM
ok - just home. Long post mortem. Great entertainment all all that but monaghan were hosed by branigan.

Mccarthy gets a free in after taking at least 8 steps. Hughes black card for contesting why he didn't get a 45 (which clearly was a 45). The macmanus 1 on 1. Keep playing until Dublin equalise. The list goes on. Hopefully none of these things matter at the end of the day but we need better refs than that.

I've watched the mccarthy one again. He didn't foul the ball as he got his solo and bounces in. Monaghan ere awarded much more soft frees than dublin throughout the game and I'm a fan of monaghan. There's no doubt monaghan were the better side though and a good number of the dublin newcomers frankly didn't look up to county football at this stage.

Quote from: Manning18 on February 09, 2020, 12:38:36 AM
As someone that was shouting for Monghan throughout the game, I thought the ref was more than fair to them tbh. A number of easy frees given in the second half. The lack of play on to McManus looked bad because he was clear through but the whistle was blown for a contact foul long before that and Dubs stopped playing. Someone will have to do the clock on the injury time, went way over but a hell of a lot of the original 6 was wasted also so hard to know. I'm sure league Sunday will do it

As BennyCake said earlier, the ref got the stoppage time in stoppage time correct. 

There were two lengthy stoppages. The first was exactly 2 minutes. The second was for 90 seconds. So whatever you want to say about the ref, the 3.30 played in excess of the stated stoppage time, he got that spot on.

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As someone that was shouting for Monghan throughout the game, I thought the ref was more than fair to them tbh. A number of easy frees given in the second half. The lack of play on to McManus looked bad because he was clear through but the whistle was blown for a contact foul long before that and Dubs stopped playing. Someone will have to do the clock on the injury time, went way over but a hell of a lot of the original 6 was wasted also so hard to know. I'm sure league Sunday will do it

As BennyCake said earlier, the ref got the stoppage time in stoppage time correct. 

There were two lengthy stoppages. The first was exactly 2 minutes. The second was for 90 seconds. So whatever you want to say about the ref, the 3.30 played in excess of the stated stoppage time, he got that spot on.

Agree with the above. In the Dublin Kerry  game - Dublin played down the clock before they went for their last score. Ref should have blown up on kick out.

Anyone know what game is on TG4 today?

Quote from: ck on February 09, 2020, 08:51:50 AM
Anyone know what game is on TG4 today?

Tyrone v Kerry live, Donegal v Galway deferred. Meath v Mayo on TG4 youtube.

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Anyone know what game is on TG4 today?

Tyrone v Kerry live, Donegal v Galway deferred. Meath v Mayo on TG4 youtube.

Is the Tyrone game likely to go ahead? Omagh has a tendency to flood at the sight of rain.

Change of venue for Kerry v Tyrone game:

Edendork GAC
Postcode: Bt7 6js

Anyone know if the Mayo/Meath game will go ahead?
I need to make up my mind to travel or not and I'll need to set out soon if I want a stand seat.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 09, 2020, 10:57:54 AM
Anyone know if the Mayo/Meath game will go ahead?
I need to make up my mind to travel or not and I'll need to set out soon if I want a stand seat.

Going ahead according to Meath Gaa twitter page anyway

Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 09, 2020, 10:57:54 AM
Anyone know if the Mayo/Meath game will go ahead?
I need to make up my mind to travel or not and I'll need to set out soon if I want a stand seat.

I'm ten mins from Navan and it's honestly cleared up completely, a little dark overhead but there is also sun .

Tyrone Kerry moved to 2-30 because the anthem took so long.

Pure muck today! No conditions to play football, it's bad enough to watch when the weather and pitch are good!

Watching the Tyrone/Kerry game on TG4 and am wondering if there is a covered stand at this venue as a number of patrons seem to be watching from the comfort of their cars or under an umbrella?

Meath v Mayo live on Tg4 YouTube. Meath have looked awful so far

Donegal playing well against the wind. Cutting Galway open for goal chances again and again with the running.

Quote from: Carbery on February 09, 2020, 02:20:18 PM
Watching the Tyrone/Kerry game on TG4 and am wondering if there is a covered stand at this venue as a number of patrons seem to be watching from the comfort of their cars or under an umbrella?

There is no stand no.

Hudson is a dodgy ref.
How did Fergal Borland not get a free.
He is giving Meath a fair amount of easy frees.

The usual Two minutes added time.
Is that a joke
Seemed a lot of Meath men got "injuries" in the first half.

Quote from: joemamas on February 09, 2020, 02:34:48 PM
Hudson is a dodgy ref.
How did Fergal Borland not get a free.
He is giving Meath a fair amount of easy frees.

In fairness Diarmuid O'Connor should have conceded a penalty to Meath before that. Inconsistent refereeing very frustrating to watch.

No one has told our players that it's windy out. Shot choices have been awful. How they think that you can put a 45 over in these conditions I don't know. Hopefully well be better with the wind. Defensively we've been ok but awful up front as before. Keeper making me nervous the whole time though.

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Hudson is a dodgy ref.
How did Fergal Borland not get a free.
He is giving Meath a fair amount of easy frees.

In fairness Diarmuid O'Connor should have conceded a penalty to Meath before that. Inconsistent refereeing very frustrating to watch.

Agreed on Diarmuid O Connor tackle.
Meath guy should still have scored

Mayo need a huge improvement in how they use the ball against that wind otherwise we are in big trouble in this game!!

Quote from: J70 on February 09, 2020, 02:25:49 PM
Donegal playing well against the wind. Cutting Galway open for goal chances again and again with the running.

Galway not up to it this week, very poor first half. Again the shooting has been extremely bad percentage and execution wise, Donegal look to be fairly comfortable and should run out easy enough winners based on the match so far with that wind to come.

This "joemamas" lad needs to stop whinging.

Some free 'won' by McCurry there. ::)

Tyrone down to 14. 2nd yellow for Peter Harte. I thought Tyrone should have had a free in just before that when Kerry CB picked the ball up off the ground

Usual cop out from the referee giving two yellows. What did Clifford do wrong then?

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Donegal playing well against the wind. Cutting Galway open for goal chances again and again with the running.

Galway not up to it this week, very poor first half. Again the shooting has been extremely bad percentage and execution wise, Donegal look to be fairly comfortable and should run out easy enough winners based on the match so far with that wind to come.

Some turnaround.

Galway upped it, Donegal have stopped playing.

Nine point turnaround in 15 mins.

Shane Walsh is some player.

Fr Damo not happy about his second yellow!  ;D

Quote from: square_ball on February 09, 2020, 03:27:33 PM
Usual cop out from the referee giving two yellows. What did Clifford do wrong then?

Clifford done nothing, sub who's not booked takes the gamble that the ref will do the usual book both players, complete joke, biggest bug bearer of mine in the gaa

Who's the dud ref in the Tyrone Kerry game? Fell for the oldest trick in the book when sending Clifford off.

Umpires obviously seen something we didn't but the players need to have a look at themselves, embarrassing carry on altogether

No matter who wins Tyrone v Kerry but the officials have had a bad day

Quote from: square_ball on February 09, 2020, 03:27:33 PM
Usual cop out from the referee giving two yellows. What did Clifford do wrong then?

Absolutely nothing. Tyrone man did the job he was asked to do. Ref fell for it.

All I saw was Clifford poking ref in chest after getting booked.

WTF are they instructing the Galway keepers to do.

Two of them now with the two-foot sliding tackles cleaning out Donegal men.

It amazes me that ref just book both players without looking at the offender, why would a forward with a free drag down a player

McCurry is unplayable. To score from a sideline kick in them conditions is some feat.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2020, 03:29:46 PM
Umpires obviously seen something we didn't but the players need to have a look at themselves, embarrassing carry on altogether

If there's ever a coming together 99/100 the umpires say 'both at it' so book both, Clifford had no need to get involved in anything there especially in front of the umpires and already booked, it's a tactic from some teams, if player is on a yellow try get him into a scuffle that'll get 2 bookings

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 09, 2020, 03:32:42 PM
McCurry is unplayable. To score from a lifeline kick in them conditions is some feat.

Wind assisted but cracking score all the same

I thought Clifford grabbed the Tyrone guy  first

Quote from: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
I thought Clifford grabbed the Tyrone guy  first

Correct.

Will be interesting to see if Clifford gets a ban for all the abuse he gave both umpires after he got sent off

If there was a game we would win in this league that was it. Poor stuff up front really. Whatever about their goal the lack of point scoring and wild shots cost us the game. Defensively we seem solid but we don't have a clue at the other end.

The state of that ref in the Tyrone game.  Anyone who thinks we shouldn't have an opinion on refs can feck off.  Complete amateur, out of his depth.

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I thought Clifford grabbed the Tyrone guy  first

Correct.

Really?

https://twitter.com/antobanto15/status/1226529657362767873?s=21

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 09, 2020, 03:32:42 PM
McCurry is unplayable. To score from a sideline kick in them conditions is some feat.

You should probably add ' at this time of year' . Tyrone people will know better than me on that score

That doesn't clear anything up

Great come back victory for Tyrone. Well done to all involved.

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I thought Clifford grabbed the Tyrone guy  first

Correct.

Really?

https://twitter.com/antobanto15/status/1226529657362767873?s=21

Did that show who started it?

f**k sake Donegal.

Seven points up and cruising in the second half. Still manage to lose the f**king game in Letterkenny.

Several chances to save it at the end too, even with the difficult wind.

Galway took their chances. Donegal didn't.

Now we are definitely in a relegation scrap.

The Tyrone man dragged him to the ground

If and when Kevin McLoughin retires from Mayo, they should put an asterisk next to him name for this game.
1-2 was his tally, in last seven minutes against a gale , it was also Mayo's total tally for the second half.
Unless Mayo improve from 10-15, they will find it hard to get any more points in this division.
But a win is win.........

Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

The two yellows cop out option should be taken away from officials. This would put more emphasis on identifying the instigators of trouble. If the eight officials around the pitch can't figure out between themselves what happened in any particular incident, then we play on. The cynical provocation of influential players is a blight on the game.

Quote from: joemamas on February 09, 2020, 03:52:31 PM
If and when Kevin McLoughin retires from Mayo, they should put an asterisk next to him name for this game.
1-2 was his tally, in last seven minutes against a gale , it was also Mayo's total tally for the second half.
Unless Mayo improve from 10-15, they will find it hard to get any more points in this division.
But a win is win.........

He turned over the Meath back in the lead up to the goal too. Got out of jail big time. Tyrone and Galway winning doesn't help our cause so relegation still a big threat.

That was unbelievable.

Tyrone players playing for the foul

Mickey Harte cynical masterclass sending on a sub to get Clifford sent off. No doubt it will be recinded


https://twitter.com/davidherity/status/1226530422672285697?s=12

No idea what Harte was sent off for

They really need to bring in technology to help the refs

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 09, 2020, 03:49:00 PM
The Tyrone man dragged him to the ground

They were both wrestling and went to ground.

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2020, 03:53:05 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

To be fair I think we're ok defensively and our tackling is as good as anyone's but too many lads look Clueless when they get the ball in their hands. Referee was as unpredictable as our shooting.

It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

How are we ever going to replace the likes of Kevin mcgloughlin , the heart his likes have is so rare .

We were lucky, very lucky . I don't understand our gameplan when we attack at all , it's all so disjointed and impulsive . Horan worries me at times but you just keep thinking he has a bigger long term plan . We won't survive imo , Farney will take us in two weeks time , Kerry , Galway and Tyrone should all beat us handy on current form but you just never know with Mayo for sure . 

Weather was bad today and the price of a hot dog and cuppa was Croke Park prices . Miserable ground , having a pint here in Navan before I head back to Dublin and the impression I get of the town its poor also . Bad day out but a win is a win.

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The Tyrone man dragged him to the ground

They were both wrestling and went to ground.

From the footage of the game on the incident it should have been a black card for pulling someone to the ground.

Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 09, 2020, 03:49:00 PM
The Tyrone man dragged him to the ground

While Clifford had a grip of his shirt. Little needed for the Derry men to come a runnin. Just need Screen, tickle and Lenny now for the full house. 😂

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It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

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It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

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Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Tonto I actually doubt if there would be and as he is a Kerry man I think the chances are even less.

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Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

I assume you think he's completely innocent. If you were at the match you would see he started it before the video was taken before him and Ben wrestled. Did you see petey harte going crying to the umproes about his sending off

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Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Who said anything about the ref

I thought someone implied he said something to referee.

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I thought someone implied he said something to referee.

Umpires

Meath god help us

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Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Lol what. Of course he did. The referee got the most of his tantrum. He even prodded him in the chest. Action should be taken.

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Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Lol what. Of course he did. The referee got the most of his tantrum. He even prodded him in the chest. Action should be taken.

What prod in the chest??? LOL

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Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Lol what. Of course he did. The referee got the most of his tantrum. He even prodded him in the chest. Action should be taken.

What prod in the chest??? LOL

He was swatting away a wasp.

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/election2020/roundup/articles/2020/02/09/4185498-mayo-ace-facing-long-spell-on-sidelines-due-to-injury/?fbclid=IwAR2CgLb0y9eJkrd9kJ-zWWe75tE-W1t0X-3rj1zyIrHU_v4YdXFiaxxaHs8

Boyler was still in flying form , gutted for him .

Team   P   +/-   Pts.
1 Dublin 3   6   4
2 Tyrone 3   2   4
3 Galway 3   1   4
4 Donegal 3   9   3
5 Monaghan 3   3   3
6 Kerry 3   0   3
7 Mayo 3   -4   3
8 Meath 3   -17   0

Table very tight now

Quote from: thejuice on February 09, 2020, 04:38:19 PM

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2020, 03:53:05 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

To be fair I think we're ok defensively and our tackling is as good as anyone's but too many lads look Clueless when they get the ball in their hands. Referee was as unpredictable as our shooting.

Yer shot selection was diabolical, 14 tried to kick a point from the wing, literally on the sideline. Ridiculous

The meath medics were worked hard in the first half, f**k me but it was brutal
i wouldn't normally say anything but I thought in the first half in particular the ref gave everything to Meath. Very frustratingly he would blow for a free for one thing and two seconds later the same foul would be let go

Some difference from a couple of weeks ago.

Rock compliments Clifford after levelling.

Galway no 3 walks across Murphy and puts him off. Then clearly goads him when it tails wide and whistle blows.

Another example of great sportsmanship  ::)

Murphy wouldn't be shy doing the same.

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2020, 07:13:27 PM

Quote from: thejuice on February 09, 2020, 04:38:19 PM

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2020, 03:53:05 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

To be fair I think we're ok defensively and our tackling is as good as anyone's but too many lads look Clueless when they get the ball in their hands. Referee was as unpredictable as our shooting.

Yer shot selection was diabolical, 14 tried to kick a point from the wing, literally on the sideline. Ridiculous

The meath medics were worked hard in the first half, f**k me but it was brutal
i wouldn't normally say anything but I thought in the first half in particular the ref gave everything to Meath. Very frustratingly he would blow for a free for one thing and two seconds later the same foul would be let go

The medics work hard in Mayo too. Never seen a team get so many head injuries in each game. Between game in tralee and league final last year about 6/7 lads went down holding head in each game.

Quote from: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 07:22:14 PM

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2020, 07:13:27 PM

Quote from: thejuice on February 09, 2020, 04:38:19 PM

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2020, 03:53:05 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

To be fair I think we're ok defensively and our tackling is as good as anyone's but too many lads look Clueless when they get the ball in their hands. Referee was as unpredictable as our shooting.

Yer shot selection was diabolical, 14 tried to kick a point from the wing, literally on the sideline. Ridiculous

The meath medics were worked hard in the first half, f**k me but it was brutal
i wouldn't normally say anything but I thought in the first half in particular the ref gave everything to Meath. Very frustratingly he would blow for a free for one thing and two seconds later the same foul would be let go

The medics work hard in Mayo too. Never seen a team get so many head injuries in each game. Between game in tralee and league final last year about 6/7 lads went down holding head in each game.

Same when they beat us in the qualifiers last year

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 04, 2020, 11:23:51 PM
A good opportunity for Galway to pick up away win as Donegal are poor in O'Donnell Park.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY/giphy.webp)

Quote from: BennyCake on February 09, 2020, 07:16:04 PM
Some difference from a couple of weeks ago.

Rock compliments Clifford after levelling.

Galway no 3 walks across Murphy and puts him off. Then clearly goads him when it tails wide and whistle blows.

Another example of great sportsmanship  ::)

I'm not sure the rest of the Dublin team were quite as gracious as Dean Rock was to Clifford in the aftermath of that free.

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 09, 2020, 05:34:54 PM

Quote from: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 05:16:13 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 05:11:02 PM

Quote from: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 05:03:06 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 04:51:10 PM

Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Lol what. Of course he did. The referee got the most of his tantrum. He even prodded him in the chest. Action should be taken.

He didn't prod the referee in the chest , a bit of creative writing there !

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 09, 2020, 04:55:33 PM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)

Mud wrestling reprieve in Dork.

Shaping up to be some competition in Div 1. 

The bottom 4 play each other in the next round...Kerry host Meath and Monaghan entertain Mayo.  The other team on 3 points is Donegal, who travel to Dublin.  Tyrone will travel to Galway where the winner will be joint top at worst (if Dublin win) after 4 rounds.

Nothing sorted for two more rounds at least.

How the hell did Loftus miss that free in the 2nd half? Brutal effort

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2020, 07:39:53 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 04, 2020, 11:23:51 PM
A good opportunity for Galway to pick up away win as Donegal are poor in O'Donnell Park.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY/giphy.webp)

Nah, in the case of Donegal in O'Donnell Park, you're simply living up to your name with predictions like that!

Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2020, 08:45:38 PM

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 09, 2020, 04:55:33 PM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)

Mud wrestling reprieve in Dork.

Yeah, yeah, whatever -- 'tis called winning, you know.  :P

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 10, 2020, 12:06:44 AM

Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2020, 08:45:38 PM

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 09, 2020, 04:55:33 PM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)

Mud wrestling reprieve in Dork.

Yeah, yeah, whatever -- 'tis called winning, you know.  :P

No doubt the Tyrone boys did good on Sunday and the deep trauma tremors from getting run ragged by Monaghan didn't rear their ugly head.
But tomorrow's another day.

Quote from: Main Street on February 10, 2020, 01:20:40 AM

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 10, 2020, 12:06:44 AM

Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2020, 08:45:38 PM

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 09, 2020, 04:55:33 PM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)

Mud wrestling reprieve in Dork.

Yeah, yeah, whatever -- 'tis called winning, you know.  :P

No doubt the Tyrone boys did good on Sunday and the deep trauma tremors from getting run ragged by Monaghan didn't rear their ugly head.
But tomorrow's another day.

Good to see alright...thought our boys might have needed the comfort of playing Monaghan in Croke park to wash those memories away

Have to say though, for all the twisting here about rights and wrongs. The games so far in the NFL have been great stuff, high drama/high scores. Dublin/Kerry - Dublin/Monaghan - Tyrone/Kerry - Galway/Monaghan....all great exhibitions.

The league is where it's at.

I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

I thought Joe McQuillan was very very poor, very soft frees given too both teams for nothing and then very obvious frees not given. There was several instances of over carrying too which were blatantly obvious and missed. Its clearly not just McQuillan but too many players are picking up bookings for high challenges when players are just ducking into challenges.

Quote from: Main Street on February 10, 2020, 12:21:14 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.

A awful lot of negativity, Division 1 has been excellent so far, there was 4 games at the weekend, 2 draws and a point separating the other two matches.

Its by far the best competition format we have.

Quote from: greatpoint on February 10, 2020, 01:07:45 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 10, 2020, 12:21:14 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.

You could see he was trying to measure it in the breeze, but overdid it slightly. Just unlucky.

Galway hit a couple from play earlier at the other end which were brilliantly judged.

Think we'll have a tough time staying up now, even if the performances haven't been too bad. We do tend to be very open down the middle in the league the last few years, so we're always going to give up a couple of goals.