NI job losses

[NAG1]

What industries does NI specialise in, other than welfare ?

40% of all recording heads in computers etc are made in Derry. That's a lot of recording heads.

Does it need some new industries or services?

Location wise general manufacturing is going to be difficult to revive. Even wise tax breaks and incentives there are more cost effective areas of the world to use a hub for these multi nationals.

Has to be some new thinking and new direction for the future.

[Milltown Row2]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-35059735

FAO MilltownRow2 From his Twitter - @JP_BIZ "Local boss of Bombardier says job cuts would still have happened even if workers had accepted pay deal last year. Issue not resolved."

[brokencrossbar1]

Having worked in a unionised production environment the Union's main priority, apart from self promotion,  is ensuring every worker is viewed as an equal. The most useless, lazy, work-shy, always off sick, raising pathetic grievances rather than work,  trouble-makers got the full backing of the Union to prevent them being disciplined or getting a poor appraisal rating for being a useless layabout.  When the union ensures that type doesn't get the road it endangers everyones future.

Going off subject a bit, but how dangerous do you think it is to not be part of any union? Say, just have a good lawyer?

Does that leave you feeling a bit of a fraud if a union negotiates a better pay deal which you will benefit from?

The unions will give you exactly the same 'legal' service as a lawyer.  The benefits of being part of a Union is the power of numbers.  If you're getting a bad deal in work and not part of the union then the company just shafts you and gets rid of you.  If you're a Union member the risk Union action happening which can cause havoc,  depending on the industry.

[seafoid]

Indiana is the only one with the expertise and the vision to save the NI economy

[Tony Baloney]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-35059735

FAO MilltownRow2 From his Twitter - @JP_BIZ "Local boss of Bombardier says job cuts would still have happened even if workers had accepted pay deal last year. Issue not resolved."

If they rejected the deal over an extra hour on a Friday and a 2 year pay freeze in a period of low inflation, then they are an amazing shower of mugs. Shocking stuff!

[Milltown Row2]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-35059735

FAO MilltownRow2 From his Twitter - @JP_BIZ "Local boss of Bombardier says job cuts would still have happened even if workers had accepted pay deal last year. Issue not resolved."

If they rejected the deal over an extra hour on a Friday and a 2 year pay freeze in a period of low inflation, then they are an amazing shower of mugs. Shocking stuff!

Was great finishing up at 11.45am on a Friday.... But Franko knows a man who has a twitter account that will tell you something else...

[Tony Baloney]

Having worked in a unionised production environment the Union's main priority, apart from self promotion,  is ensuring every worker is viewed as an equal. The most useless, lazy, work-shy, always off sick, raising pathetic grievances rather than work,  trouble-makers got the full backing of the Union to prevent them being disciplined or getting a poor appraisal rating for being a useless layabout.  When the union ensures that type doesn't get the road it endangers everyones future.

Going off subject a bit, but how dangerous do you think it is to not be part of any union? Say, just have a good lawyer?

Does that leave you feeling a bit of a fraud if a union negotiates a better pay deal which you will benefit from?

The unions will give you exactly the same 'legal' service as a lawyer.  The benefits of being part of a Union is the power of numbers.  If you're getting a bad deal in work and not part of the union then the company just shafts you and gets rid of you.  If you're a Union member the risk Union action happening which can cause havoc,  depending on the industry.

Our company has over 2000 employees in the north and not a union in sight. They aren't a necessity.

[Norf Tyrone]

Having worked in a unionised production environment the Union's main priority, apart from self promotion,  is ensuring every worker is viewed as an equal. The most useless, lazy, work-shy, always off sick, raising pathetic grievances rather than work,  trouble-makers got the full backing of the Union to prevent them being disciplined or getting a poor appraisal rating for being a useless layabout.  When the union ensures that type doesn't get the road it endangers everyones future.

Going off subject a bit, but how dangerous do you think it is to not be part of any union? Say, just have a good lawyer?

Does that leave you feeling a bit of a fraud if a union negotiates a better pay deal which you will benefit from?

The unions will give you exactly the same 'legal' service as a lawyer.  The benefits of being part of a Union is the power of numbers.  If you're getting a bad deal in work and not part of the union then the company just shafts you and gets rid of you.  If you're a Union member the risk Union action happening which can cause havoc,  depending on the industry.

Our company has over 2000 employees in the north and not a union in sight. They aren't a necessity.

Ours too.
1500 worker's and non union.

[seafoid]

anyone who says unions are not necessary assumes that the conditions of now are forever.
Unions were destroyed in the US and now one third of workers work freelance.
This chart shows what happens without unions

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/15/40-years-of-economic-policy-in-one-chart/

Life is contingent

[LeoMc]

What industries does NI specialise in, other than welfare ?

Approx 40% of the world's mobile crushing / screening equipment is manufactured in NI (according to Invest NI).

3 fairly large indigenous Pharma companies.

[Tony Baloney]

What industries does NI specialise in, other than welfare ?

Approx 40% of the world's mobile crushing / screening equipment is manufactured in NI (according to Invest NI).

3 fairly large indigenous Pharma companies.

Tis true. Blow-ins for the tax breaks in the south.

[5 Sams]

What industries does NI specialise in, other than welfare ?

Google Brian Conlon and his company First Derivatives Seafóid. Ex county player for Down. Global player based out of Newry. PM me if you want more details.

[Tony Baloney]

What industries does NI specialise in, other than welfare ?

Google Brian Conlon and his company First Derivatives Seafóid. Ex county player for Down. Global player based out of Newry. PM me if you want more details.

Are you trying to set him up on a date? Are you Brian?

[5 Sams]

What industries does NI specialise in, other than welfare ?

Google Brian Conlon and his company First Derivatives Seafóid. Ex county player for Down. Global player based out of Newry. PM me if you want more details.

Are you trying to set him up on a date? Are you Brian?

Feck off ya hoor ye! Conlon has some operation. 1,000+ employees. Multi million pound turn over. All started with a loan from the Credit Union.

[Tony Baloney]

What industries does NI specialise in, other than welfare ?

Google Brian Conlon and his company First Derivatives Seafóid. Ex county player for Down. Global player based out of Newry. PM me if you want more details.

Are you trying to set him up on a date? Are you Brian?

Feck off ya hoor ye! Conlon has some operation. 1,000+ employees. Multi million pound turn over. All started with a loan from the Credit Union.

Know all about it. A mate worked for FD in the 90s. You've done well for yourself 5 Sams.