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Title: Leinster SFC
Post by: Catch and Kick on May 18, 2017, 11:30:16 PM
You wouldn't think the Leinster SFC begins this w/e judging by the topics on this Board!
Wexford travel to Carlow for the right to meet Dublin in the QF.
Laois entertain Longford in O Moore Park.
Louth take on Wicklow in Parnell Park - why not Drogheda, surely they aren't expecting that many that it cannot handle this fixture?

Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: panc56 on May 19, 2017, 06:52:33 AM
I'm thinking that the lack of exposure on these three contests is that who ever wins will be beaten next time out.  Dublin , Kildare and Meath waiting the winners.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: AZOffaly on May 19, 2017, 09:21:56 AM
Obviously overshadowed by Dublin waiting in the wings, but the Leinster Championship often throws up fairly entertaining and competitive games not featuring the Dubs. Laois and Longford will be tight, especially in Portlaoise, but the rumblings coming out of Laois wouldn't be that positive. Michael McGeechin got relieved of his coaching duties due to a cost cutting measure, and I don't think Peter Creedon and his backroom team remaining were too happy about it. Laois are a funny crowd so despite getting relegated they may well beat Longford at home, and in fact I fancy them to do so.

Wexford and Carlow another potentially close game. Wexford going well with Banty, but Westmeath showed they still have a long way to go. More positive sounds coming out of Carlow recently, so don't be surprised if Home Advantage causes an upset here.
Louth should have too much for Wicklow, but again the venue may be a factor. Wicklow will be fired up as always, and will sow it into Louth early on, but Louth are now a Division 2 team in waiting, so they should be too good for Wicklow.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: seafoid on May 19, 2017, 09:45:34 AM
I think Longford will beat Laois.  The Laois Volk are not happy with Creedon. 
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: AZOffaly on May 19, 2017, 10:15:27 AM
I think Longford will beat Laois.  The Laois Volk are not happy with Creedon.

They're not, but that doesn't mean they'll lie down in O'Moore Park. Longford are better, but Laois might well pull this one off. Creedon will be gone, I think, before next year.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: seafoid on May 19, 2017, 10:43:59 AM
I think Longford will beat Laois.  The Laois Volk are not happy with Creedon.

They're not, but that doesn't mean they'll lie down in O'Moore Park. Longford are better, but Laois might well pull this one off. Creedon will be gone, I think, before next year.
It should be tight but I think Longford have better morale. If they score a few goals they'll frighten the bejaysus out of fragile Laois supporters
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 19, 2017, 10:48:11 AM
Laois are defensively poor Longford offensively. I suspect it will be a tight game but I think if Kingston fires Laois will win. Laois by 2 for me.
Louth will win pulling up and if there is to be s shock it will be Carlow.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: seafoid on May 19, 2017, 10:57:22 AM
Longford are 15/8 with PP

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 19, 2017, 11:47:39 AM
I usually start Longford v threads but just couldn't get the motivation to do it this year.

Won't get to the game due to a prior commitment but Laois surely won't lie down here. I expect them to win handy.

Routine wins for Wexford and Louth as well.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Rossfan on May 19, 2017, 11:55:27 AM
Apart from the activists and the NFL type supporters of the 6 teams does anyone anywhere care about these 3 games?
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: AZOffaly on May 19, 2017, 11:58:24 AM
Apart from the activists and the NFL type supporters of the 6 teams does anyone anywhere care about these 3 games?

I know I care very much about Offaly v Westmeath shortly.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: shark on May 19, 2017, 01:15:08 PM
Apart from the activists and the NFL type supporters of the 6 teams does anyone anywhere care about these 3 games?

I know I care very much about Offaly v Westmeath shortly.

There will be bite in that one. Especially after such a tight game last year.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: The Boy Wonder on May 19, 2017, 08:55:45 PM
Apart from the activists and the NFL type supporters of the 6 teams does anyone anywhere care about these 3 games?

Gosh Rossfan - what's wrong with "NFL type supporters" ?

To answer your question - yes, genuine GAA supporters will have a real interest in the provincial championships as they progress.
Will Colin Kelly (a fine forward in his playing days) build on Louth's promotion to Division 2 ?
Could Johnny Magee's Wicklow pull off a shock ?  They were not too far off against Meath & Laois in Round 1 in recent years.
How will Wexford fare under Banty ?
Some signs of improvement in Carlow's fortunes at underage in recent years - will it follow through to senior ?
Longford too had had good underage teams in recent years so will be very confident on Sunday.
Laois had a disastrous League so won't lack motivation.

To hell with the Joe Brolly types who look down their noses at the "lesser" counties.




Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Rossfan on May 19, 2017, 09:02:08 PM
I'm a NFL type supporter ;)
There will be little or no public interest and certainly no bandwagon rolling for these 3 games.
They're a bit like the early counts in an Election when the no hopes are being eliminated.

Sadly.........
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: laoislad on May 19, 2017, 09:54:16 PM
I usually start Longford v threads but just couldn't get the motivation to do it this year.

Won't get to the game due to a prior commitment but Laois surely won't lie down here. I expect them to win handy.

Routine wins for Wexford and Louth as well.
Your prior commitment was a road trip to Portlaoise with laoislad...until you dumped me for your posh mates... >:(
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Gmac on May 20, 2017, 08:43:52 PM
I'm a NFL type supporter ;)
There will be little or no public interest and certainly no bandwagon rolling for these 3 games.
They're a bit like the early counts in an Election when the no hopes are being eliminated.

Sadly.........
the sad reality is none of these 6 teams have any chance of winning the all Ireland  the same as Roscommon
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2017, 08:58:15 PM
Driving around Leinster and Connacht for the last two weeks - not one advertising for the championship on a billboard

Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 20, 2017, 09:02:01 PM
Driving around Leinster and Connacht for the last two weeks - not one advertising for the championship on a billboard

The super 8 will be well advertised next summer throughout the country. A big money spinner for the men in grey suits at GAA HQ.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 20, 2017, 10:34:46 PM
I usually start Longford v threads but just couldn't get the motivation to do it this year.

Won't get to the game due to a prior commitment but Laois surely won't lie down here. I expect them to win handy.

Routine wins for Wexford and Louth as well.
Your prior commitment was a road trip to Portlaoise with laoislad...until you dumped me for your posh mates... >:(

Yes - you are right. It's unforgivable that I've stood you up for Vivaldi. But we'll meet again.......

Enjoy the match - I will be tuning in on Twitter during final rehearsals.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: DandyMan on May 21, 2017, 09:16:14 AM
Unfortunately and I mean it, the structure of the championship is outdated and irrelevant, given the focus that teams with greater resources place on fitness levels and a professional approach to training and development of their teams. As a longstanding Dublin supporter even I am getting tired of the endless rounds of matches that lead up to the quarter finals, when the real action begins.

I cannot for the life of me see any motivation for players from the counties playing in the Leinster Championship games today to get up to the level of fitness required to simply keep teams like Dublin to a respectable score.

The solution has to be built around two sixteen-team leagues or four eight-team divisional structures based on performance. The league worked well this year with the four divisions. This means that teams get consistent games with teams of their own standard and can progress and develop to a higher division. In the championship we have outdated provincial systems that throw up meaningless and uncompetitive games and where there is little prospect of teams or players being able to progress.

We have four teams (maybe five) who are so far ahead of the rest that the present structure is unattractive and uncompetitive. It needs to change.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Syferus on May 21, 2017, 01:46:52 PM
Driving around Leinster and Connacht for the last two weeks - not one advertising for the championship on a billboard

It's the 21st Century, J. Jonah Jameson.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: laoislad on May 21, 2017, 03:49:37 PM
HT
Laois 2-10
Longford 0-07
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2017, 03:52:24 PM
Who has the breeze for the 2nd half?
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
Who has the breeze for the 2nd half?
Longford
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2017, 04:12:13 PM
Laois 4-11 Longford 0-9

Wicklow are only 2 points behind Louth
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: laoislad on May 21, 2017, 04:12:40 PM
Laois 4-11
Longford 0-09
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2017, 04:14:45 PM
42 mins Carlow 1-11 Wexford 0-11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD3F7J2PeYU
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: laoislad on May 21, 2017, 04:39:54 PM
FT
Laois 4-15
Longford 0-16
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2017, 04:40:54 PM
Murphy scores a screamer. Carlow win!!

Their reward Dublin live on Sky!
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
Will that be played in Dr Netwatch Cullen Park?
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2017, 04:56:27 PM
FT
Laois 4-15
Longford 0-16
Great result for Laois
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: laoislad on May 21, 2017, 05:00:56 PM
Leinster Championship already providing shocks and excitement.
There is no better province...
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 21, 2017, 05:06:47 PM
Murphy scores a screamer. Carlow win!!

Their reward Dublin live on Sky!

Great stuff for Carlow as for Wexford some Banty blues
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Rossfan on May 21, 2017, 05:44:29 PM
Will that be played in Dr Netwatch Cullen Park?
Wasn't it fixed for Portlaoise?
Well done Carlow and what the fk were Laois at in the League?
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2017, 05:55:43 PM
Laois play Kildare the next day
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: SCFC on May 21, 2017, 06:20:46 PM
Will that be played in Dr Netwatch Cullen Park?
Wasn't it fixed for Portlaoise?
Well done Carlow and what the fk were Laois at in the League?
Yes - Carlow v Dublin fixed for Portlaoise. The same Portlaoise that mysteriously couldn't accommodate all the Dublin fans last year. Leinster Council are c***s.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: mrdeeds on May 21, 2017, 06:39:46 PM
Banty was smart losing to avoid the Dublin humiliation that would have killed morale.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 22, 2017, 12:16:56 AM
Banty is a tactical genius. Even Hardy would have tip his hat to him.

As for Longford......what can I say - I had a feeling in me waters. Even I wasn't sucked in by the lazy analysis done beforehand - esp by the likes of Dessie Dolan who picked Longford cos we had Brian Kavanagh. The same Brian Kavanagh who hasn't seen a Longford jersey all year.

Far play to Laois - they dusted themselves down after the relegation and will love a crack at the Flourbags.

I wonder how that chickenburger would have gone down if I had met up with Laoislad after? With his association football side and Laois winning I may have had difficulty.

Great stuff by Carlow. Is Steve CW still here? Always flew the flag and had some well written insights.

Game v Dubs should be in Carlow. This nonsense of having it in Portlaoise, that couldn't host the Dubs last year. I hope they don't get hockeyed.

Wicklow gave Louth a good game.

 
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Hound on May 22, 2017, 06:27:27 AM
Someone told me Portlaoise has more seats available this year than last year. Is that true?
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Buttofthehill on May 22, 2017, 09:01:17 AM
The last time in Dr. Cullen was in 2002 against Wexford...after Ireland had played Cameroon at the crack of dawn. I remember being at the match thinking the whole crowd seemed jarred. Dubs just squeaked through too.

Definitely should be in Carlow, us season ticket holders can slum it on the terrace.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: SCFC on May 22, 2017, 09:15:51 AM
Someone told me Portlaoise has more seats available this year than last year. Is that true?
No.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2017, 03:50:04 PM
Banty was smart losing to avoid the Dublin humiliation that would have killed morale.

Always one step ahead.
The best Taoiseach we never had.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 22, 2017, 05:15:58 PM
Fair play to Carlow first off, but Banty's stock must be well down at this stage.
Presume he is getting a decent chunk of change for going there.
Anyway, once again, well done to Carlow and they really should have got a home game.

Looking ahead Laois v Kildare should be a good one in Tullamore. Fancy Kildare by a few in the end, but I am always wary of Donie on the edge of the square due to the size of the man, but in fairness he can shoot too.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Catch and Kick on May 22, 2017, 08:40:25 PM
Wexford were fortunate they Westmeath and Carlow in the last two games when they had promotion wrapped up. All the talk was that Wexford fielded a weak team v Carlow. 15 of them played in the game yesterday! Carlow on an upward curve but unfortunately meet Dublin now. Could do well in the Qualifiers.
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: Avondhu star on May 23, 2017, 11:27:50 AM
Murphy scores a screamer. Carlow win!!

Their reward Dublin live on Sky!

Great stuff for Carlow as for Wexford some Banty blues
Wexford dont have to worry about having enough tickets for the Dublin game now
Title: Re: Leinster SFC
Post by: stevecw on May 24, 2017, 01:14:43 AM

Great stuff by Carlow. Is Steve CW still here? Always flew the flag and had some well written insights.

Game v Dubs should be in Carlow. This nonsense of having it in Portlaoise, that couldn't host the Dubs last year. I hope they don't get hockeyed.

You have a great memory to remember me, fair play! Think I posted once after we drew away to Westmeath in the 1st league game to tell people we were up to something this year! Then we went out a week later and lost at home to London, so I crawled back into my shell.

To be honest for once we had a bit of confidence going into a championship game. It's by far the strongest panel we've had in my lifetime...got about 90% of the best players involved compared to the usual 50/60% at best.
After the London disaster we won 4 of the next 5 games, including wins away to Wicklow & at home to Limerick & Wexford.

A few of the lads here might know of Steven Poacher from Down, he has been a vital part of the team this year. Every player i have spoken to raves about him & the difference he has made to training. His gameplan along with Turlough O'Brien and the other selectors has really worked. It's a defensive set up, based on breaking fast and hitting a big target man Foley, and off him plays Broderick who kicks points from anywhere.

Once Carlow got Broderick back fit & switched to that gameplan, we have beaten Waterford, Limerick, Wexford twice. Broderick ended up 2nd overall highest scorer in the league after missing almost 2 games.
Sunday was amazing, still hard to believe we actually went out and won a Leinster championship game against a good Wexford side. Last win for us in Leinster was v Louth in 2011, and before that was v Wicklow in 2006 I think!

It was so well deserved, missed 4 other easy goal chances and should have won by a lot more really. Murphy owned midfield, and was unplayable.
Midfield with Brendan & the lightning fast Sean beside him, will be 1 area of the pitch where Carlow might have an advantage over Dublin. Apart from that well hopefully we can compete as best we can. I'm sure Poacher will have some plan set up to limit the damage.

It's a showcase live on Sky too for the likes of Brendan Murphy who is among the top 5 midfielders in the country to be finally seen on a big stage. Same for Paul Broderick, and incredible corner forward with the most amazing left foot. 2nd top scorer on this years league despite missing 2 games, scored 10 points v Wexford. Hopefully they play at their best and make it competitive for as long as possible.

I can't wait anyway....just hope after this we can regroup and have a go at the qualifiers no matter what.