The far right

[burdizzo]

Thought you loved being 'European'?!

[whitey]

Now I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?

How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting

Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.

I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?

Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?

Seems like a no brainer to me

Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least

[Itchy]

Now I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?

How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting

Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.

I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?

Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?

Seems like a no brainer to me

Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least

Debating with you is like debating with a 5 year old. Never answer questions, make statements (like above) trying to put words in my mouth, clearly i never said any such thing. I don't know why I bother. You're just a racist, it's as simple as that.

[whitey]

Now I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?

How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting

Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.

I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?

Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?

Seems like a no brainer to me

Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least

Debating with you is like debating with a 5 year old. Never answer questions, make statements (like above) trying to put words in my mouth, clearly i never said any such thing. I don't know why I bother. You're just a racist, it's as simple as that.

The govt and various NGOs said that people without ID had their fingerprints run through an international criminal database

That was false......and I'm a racist for pointing it out

[whitey]

And I'm actually very much pro migrant

My biggest issue is that the fraudsters are taking resources and good will away from the legitimate asylum seekers/international protecting applicants.

The inability/unwillingness of the government to enforce existing laws has and their complete dishonesty when asked basic questions have created a tindex box.

[Rossfan]

More summery

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html

[whitey]

More summery

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html

52% of Sinn Fein supporters want checkpoints at the border with Northern Ireland to limit the number of asylum-seekers coming from the U.K.?

LOL

Couldn't make it up

[burdizzo]

I know, Sinn Vein's duplicity on this issue is finally catching up with them.

[Itchy]

More summery

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html

Brave lads. If only they were so brave during the troubles we'd have put the Brits out ages ago

[dec]

In 1841 the population of England and Wales was 16 million, of Ireland 8 million

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1841_United_Kingdom_census#Regional_populations

Ireland doesn't seem too full.

[burdizzo]

More summery

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html

Brave lads. If only they were so brave during the troubles we'd have put the Brits out ages ago

Why did you want the Brits out? Why do you want everyone else in?!

[burdizzo]

In 1841 the population of England and Wales was 16 million, of Ireland 8 million

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1841_United_Kingdom_census#Regional_populations

Ireland doesn't seem too full.

In 1841 they were living squalid hovels, and now it's in tents by the canal. But, yeah, keep bringing more in 'til we have some other cataclysmic event!

[Milltown Row2]

Yeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?

Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)

Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?

If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that?  even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?

Must have missed this question I asked earlier burdizzo

[burdizzo]

Yeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?

Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)

Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?

If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that?  even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?

Must have missed this question I asked earlier burdizzo

Oh. Most people don't answer my questions, either. I'd actually forgotten.

Yes, it is almost impossible to properly vet people, so most will be 'unvetted'. Given that, I think the rate of enforced deportations should be much higher. That is absolutely possible under the current laws.

What do you mean by "up in arms (literally)", referring to me, by the way?