Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[general_lee]

Quite compelling that there are relatives of holocaust survivors out protesting against Israeli genocide in solidarity with the Palestinians.

[seafoid]

Scott Ritter says

US no longer aligned with Israel on Middle East

Arabs are furious with genocide

Israeli army is incompetent

Obama says only solution is a Palestinian State

[tiempo]

But again why is there so much Jewish pull in America, where Irish pull(though split between Dem/Rep, has never had a overly great influence with Ireland, giving the massive % of people with Irish background.

The Irishman threw away the money and kept the packet, the Zionist kept the money and threw away the packet
Zionism has had a lazer focus since WWII

[seafoid]

The problem didn't start on Oct 7.
The siege goes back to 2008 and the occupation to 1967.

[bennydorano]

Is it just me or is this Israeli bombing  these supposed  tunnels smell  exactly like  the US bombing the crap out of  mountains in Afghanistan,  because that's where Bin Laden was hiding, in a  Dr Evil-style hollowed out lair?

Ach sure, if we happen to kill 5,000 Palestinians  at  the same time , sure as long as  we got the tunnel

I honestly think it's  at the stage now that Israel always wanted. Total obliteration.  There will be nothing left.  If Palestinians can leave,  they should.  Palestinians will be scattered to the four winds , and Israel will take over  what's left. There will be nothing for Palestinians  to come back to.  As sad as it is , leave the warmongering b******s to it , and rest of  the world  shun anything to do with Israel.

100% this is what Netanyahu always wanted, his name up in lights as a strong man with a death count which means his name will be etched in history, good bad or indifferent he doesn't give a f**k. This has also been cynically timed in proximity to the American election cycle to render POTUS impotent, its the culmination of a lifetimes work for the sc**bag. Its also the culmination of 50+ years of American tolerance and enabling of Zionism, but who'd be surprised at that, sure didn't the US recruit high ranking Nazis after WWII.

End of the day this is a shit show and not beyond the realms of possibility that one or more press the big red nuclear button, certainly expect Netanyahu and Putin would have an erection for it, and others too. Nuclear deterrent my ass, you build a stockpile and there's men who dream of using it.

Shame on all the cowards over the years who got it to this point, the Zionists have it fairly stitched up at this point, the level of political cover for genocide is lunacy, they played the long game and won by the looks of it

Getting lost among the atrocities - but we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack, Israel are doing exactly what Hamas expected & hoped they would do after the attack. The Arab world coming to their aid is the only part of their plan not happening atm.

Let's not ignore what happened prior to 7th Oct. That is a view being pushed. Should Hamas' actions on 7th be justified by what has gone before? Did Isreal push and push for decades to get this reaction from Hamas to justify their current actions. In which case we are were we are due to Isreal's years of provocation of Palestine.
Regardless, there is no justification for Isreal's current actions in my eyes. And they should not be given justification due to the horrendous actions of Oct 7th.

Pretty simple answer to that, they are not justified no.

[trueblue1234]

Is it just me or is this Israeli bombing  these supposed  tunnels smell  exactly like  the US bombing the crap out of  mountains in Afghanistan,  because that's where Bin Laden was hiding, in a  Dr Evil-style hollowed out lair?

Ach sure, if we happen to kill 5,000 Palestinians  at  the same time , sure as long as  we got the tunnel

I honestly think it's  at the stage now that Israel always wanted. Total obliteration.  There will be nothing left.  If Palestinians can leave,  they should.  Palestinians will be scattered to the four winds , and Israel will take over  what's left. There will be nothing for Palestinians  to come back to.  As sad as it is , leave the warmongering b******s to it , and rest of  the world  shun anything to do with Israel.

100% this is what Netanyahu always wanted, his name up in lights as a strong man with a death count which means his name will be etched in history, good bad or indifferent he doesn't give a f**k. This has also been cynically timed in proximity to the American election cycle to render POTUS impotent, its the culmination of a lifetimes work for the sc**bag. Its also the culmination of 50+ years of American tolerance and enabling of Zionism, but who'd be surprised at that, sure didn't the US recruit high ranking Nazis after WWII.

End of the day this is a shit show and not beyond the realms of possibility that one or more press the big red nuclear button, certainly expect Netanyahu and Putin would have an erection for it, and others too. Nuclear deterrent my ass, you build a stockpile and there's men who dream of using it.

Shame on all the cowards over the years who got it to this point, the Zionists have it fairly stitched up at this point, the level of political cover for genocide is lunacy, they played the long game and won by the looks of it

Getting lost among the atrocities - but we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack, Israel are doing exactly what Hamas expected & hoped they would do after the attack. The Arab world coming to their aid is the only part of their plan not happening atm.

Let's not ignore what happened prior to 7th Oct. That is a view being pushed. Should Hamas' actions on 7th be justified by what has gone before? Did Isreal push and push for decades to get this reaction from Hamas to justify their current actions. In which case we are were we are due to Isreal's years of provocation of Palestine.
Regardless, there is no justification for Isreal's current actions in my eyes. And they should not be given justification due to the horrendous actions of Oct 7th.

Pretty simple answer to that, they are not justified no.

And nor are Israel actions. And they need to be stopped.

[Franko]

Is it just me or is this Israeli bombing  these supposed  tunnels smell  exactly like  the US bombing the crap out of  mountains in Afghanistan,  because that's where Bin Laden was hiding, in a  Dr Evil-style hollowed out lair?

Ach sure, if we happen to kill 5,000 Palestinians  at  the same time , sure as long as  we got the tunnel

I honestly think it's  at the stage now that Israel always wanted. Total obliteration.  There will be nothing left.  If Palestinians can leave,  they should.  Palestinians will be scattered to the four winds , and Israel will take over  what's left. There will be nothing for Palestinians  to come back to.  As sad as it is , leave the warmongering b******s to it , and rest of  the world  shun anything to do with Israel.

100% this is what Netanyahu always wanted, his name up in lights as a strong man with a death count which means his name will be etched in history, good bad or indifferent he doesn't give a f**k. This has also been cynically timed in proximity to the American election cycle to render POTUS impotent, its the culmination of a lifetimes work for the sc**bag. Its also the culmination of 50+ years of American tolerance and enabling of Zionism, but who'd be surprised at that, sure didn't the US recruit high ranking Nazis after WWII.

End of the day this is a shit show and not beyond the realms of possibility that one or more press the big red nuclear button, certainly expect Netanyahu and Putin would have an erection for it, and others too. Nuclear deterrent my ass, you build a stockpile and there's men who dream of using it.

Shame on all the cowards over the years who got it to this point, the Zionists have it fairly stitched up at this point, the level of political cover for genocide is lunacy, they played the long game and won by the looks of it

Getting lost among the atrocities - but we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack, Israel are doing exactly what Hamas expected & hoped they would do after the attack. The Arab world coming to their aid is the only part of their plan not happening atm.

Another person who swallows the Zionist bullshit that this all started a month ago

The Oct 7th attack is only the latest in a VERY long list of reasons why 'we are where we currently are'

[johnnycool]

But again why is there so much Jewish pull in America, where Irish pull(though split between Dem/Rep, has never had a overly great influence with Ireland, giving the massive % of people with Irish background.

Follow the Lobbyists and who owns the US media!

[Snapchap]

we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack

Wow!! Imagine that!! So these crazy Palestinians launched this attack for no apparent reason what-so-ever? On poor peace loving Israel?? Well I am shocked. I just assumed there was a context or a history or some sort of grievance behind it but no. Now I know that the Middle East conflict only began last month.

[Hound]

Getting lost among the atrocities - but we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack, Israel are doing exactly what Hamas expected & hoped they would do after the attack. The Arab world coming to their aid is the only part of their plan not happening atm.

As you said in the very first post on this topic "no doubt retribution will be swift & brutal"

And you didn't need to be a genius to figure it out. Hamas knew damn well that the murder, torture, mutilation and kidnapping of well over a thousand innocent men, women, pensioners, children would have this response. And that the west wouldn't stop Israel.

Netanyahu and his leadership team should be facing war crimes charges for his abhorrent response, but unlikely to happen. At least there are small signs that the US and the west might finally pull the handbrake on the Israelis, but hasn't happened yet.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack

Wow!! Imagine that!! So these crazy Palestinians launched this attack for no apparent reason what-so-ever? On poor peace loving Israel?? Well I am shocked. I just assumed there was a context or a history or some sort of grievance behind it but no. Now I know that the Middle East conflict only began last month.

Getting lost among the atrocities - but we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack, Israel are doing exactly what Hamas expected & hoped they would do after the attack. The Arab world coming to their aid is the only part of their plan not happening atm.

As you said in the very first post on this topic "no doubt retribution will be swift & brutal"

And you didn't need to be a genius to figure it out. Hamas knew damn well that the murder, torture, mutilation and kidnapping of well over a thousand innocent men, women, pensioners, children would have this response. And that the west wouldn't stop Israel.

Netanyahu and his leadership team should be facing war crimes charges for his abhorrent response, but unlikely to happen. At least there are small signs that the US and the west might finally pull the handbrake on the Israelis, but hasn't happened yet.

Hamas knew the world would just stand by watch a genocide and more ethic cleansing..

Can I asked why you chose 4 words to describe Hamas and provided numbers but chose to use 1 (less descriptive) and did not provide the numbers when describing Israel.

[bennydorano]

Is it just me or is this Israeli bombing  these supposed  tunnels smell  exactly like  the US bombing the crap out of  mountains in Afghanistan,  because that's where Bin Laden was hiding, in a  Dr Evil-style hollowed out lair?

Ach sure, if we happen to kill 5,000 Palestinians  at  the same time , sure as long as  we got the tunnel

I honestly think it's  at the stage now that Israel always wanted. Total obliteration.  There will be nothing left.  If Palestinians can leave,  they should.  Palestinians will be scattered to the four winds , and Israel will take over  what's left. There will be nothing for Palestinians  to come back to.  As sad as it is , leave the warmongering b******s to it , and rest of  the world  shun anything to do with Israel.

100% this is what Netanyahu always wanted, his name up in lights as a strong man with a death count which means his name will be etched in history, good bad or indifferent he doesn't give a f**k. This has also been cynically timed in proximity to the American election cycle to render POTUS impotent, its the culmination of a lifetimes work for the sc**bag. Its also the culmination of 50+ years of American tolerance and enabling of Zionism, but who'd be surprised at that, sure didn't the US recruit high ranking Nazis after WWII.

End of the day this is a shit show and not beyond the realms of possibility that one or more press the big red nuclear button, certainly expect Netanyahu and Putin would have an erection for it, and others too. Nuclear deterrent my ass, you build a stockpile and there's men who dream of using it.

Shame on all the cowards over the years who got it to this point, the Zionists have it fairly stitched up at this point, the level of political cover for genocide is lunacy, they played the long game and won by the looks of it

Getting lost among the atrocities - but we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack, Israel are doing exactly what Hamas expected & hoped they would do after the attack. The Arab world coming to their aid is the only part of their plan not happening atm.

Another person who swallows the Zionist bullshit that this all started a month ago

The Oct 7th attack is only the latest in a VERY long list of reasons why 'we are where we currently are'

Yes, immediate cause and root causes. I'm sure everyone is aware of the distinction.  The Hamas attack on 7th October is the immediate cause.

[AustinPowers]

Quite compelling that there are relatives of holocaust survivors out protesting against Israeli genocide in solidarity with the Palestinians.

Not all (non Israeli) Jews  are pro-Israel. Miriam Margoyles has repeatedly called out Israel  numerous times for their treatment of Palestinians.  Maybe it takes non-Israeli Jews to think outside the box  instead of those in Israel who are  brainwashed  by their psychopathic overlords.

Israel's actions will only increase the animosity  towards ordinary Jews worldwide though. Even if they are pro-Palestine

[AustinPowers]

Getting lost among the atrocities - but we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack, Israel are doing exactly what Hamas expected & hoped they would do after the attack. The Arab world coming to their aid is the only part of their plan not happening atm.

As you said in the very first post on this topic "no doubt retribution will be swift & brutal"

And you didn't need to be a genius to figure it out. Hamas knew damn well that the murder, torture, mutilation and kidnapping of well over a thousand innocent men, women, pensioners, children would have this response. And that the west wouldn't stop Israel.

Netanyahu and his leadership team should be facing war crimes charges for his abhorrent response, but unlikely to happen. At least there are small signs that the US and the west might finally pull the handbrake on the Israelis, but hasn't happened yet.

I've said it before, There's more  chance of  him getting the nobel peace prize.

[Snapchap]

Is it just me or is this Israeli bombing  these supposed  tunnels smell  exactly like  the US bombing the crap out of  mountains in Afghanistan,  because that's where Bin Laden was hiding, in a  Dr Evil-style hollowed out lair?

Ach sure, if we happen to kill 5,000 Palestinians  at  the same time , sure as long as  we got the tunnel

I honestly think it's  at the stage now that Israel always wanted. Total obliteration.  There will be nothing left.  If Palestinians can leave,  they should.  Palestinians will be scattered to the four winds , and Israel will take over  what's left. There will be nothing for Palestinians  to come back to.  As sad as it is , leave the warmongering b******s to it , and rest of  the world  shun anything to do with Israel.

100% this is what Netanyahu always wanted, his name up in lights as a strong man with a death count which means his name will be etched in history, good bad or indifferent he doesn't give a f**k. This has also been cynically timed in proximity to the American election cycle to render POTUS impotent, its the culmination of a lifetimes work for the sc**bag. Its also the culmination of 50+ years of American tolerance and enabling of Zionism, but who'd be surprised at that, sure didn't the US recruit high ranking Nazis after WWII.

End of the day this is a shit show and not beyond the realms of possibility that one or more press the big red nuclear button, certainly expect Netanyahu and Putin would have an erection for it, and others too. Nuclear deterrent my ass, you build a stockpile and there's men who dream of using it.

Shame on all the cowards over the years who got it to this point, the Zionists have it fairly stitched up at this point, the level of political cover for genocide is lunacy, they played the long game and won by the looks of it

Getting lost among the atrocities - but we are where we currently are because Hamas launched a terrorist attack, Israel are doing exactly what Hamas expected & hoped they would do after the attack. The Arab world coming to their aid is the only part of their plan not happening atm.

Another person who swallows the Zionist bullshit that this all started a month ago

The Oct 7th attack is only the latest in a VERY long list of reasons why 'we are where we currently are'

Yes, immediate cause and root causes. I'm sure everyone is aware of the distinction.  The Hamas attack on 7th October is the immediate cause.

I dunno. I'd guess if you lived for one week in Gaza prior to the Oct 7th attack, you'd probably say your living conditions were the immediate cause of anything that followed.