26 County General Election 2020

Started by Snapchap, January 09, 2020, 06:52:51 PM

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Taylor

The Paul Quinn story is being used by both sides in the election which is shameful towards the family.

SF are being bashed from all sides in the North and South because of it however if there wasnt an election would the family have ever gotten an apology?

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BennyCake

Quote from: Taylor on February 06, 2020, 12:33:43 PM
The Paul Quinn story is being used by both sides in the election which is shameful towards the family.

SF are being bashed from all sides in the North and South because of it however if there wasnt an election would the family have ever gotten an apology?

That's the intention.

seafoid

The changes in constituencies are a reflection of demographic changes over time. Kildare and meath used to be 5 seaters . Now Meath is 2x 3 and Kildare is 2*4.
Donegal , Mayo and Kerry used to be 2x3. Now Donegal and Kerry are 5 seats and Mayo godhelpus is 4.   

Denn Forever

Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2020, 01:50:57 PM
The changes in constituencies are a reflection of demographic changes over time. Kildare and meath used to be 5 seaters . Now Meath is 2x 3 and Kildare is 2*4.
Donegal , Mayo and Kerry used to be 2x3. Now Donegal and Kerry are 5 seats and Mayo godhelpus is 4.

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Taylor

Quote from: BennyCake on February 06, 2020, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 06, 2020, 12:33:43 PM
The Paul Quinn story is being used by both sides in the election which is shameful towards the family.

SF are being bashed from all sides in the North and South because of it however if there wasnt an election would the family have ever gotten an apology?

That's the intention.

Correct - but would the apology have come if there wasnt an election upcoming (and this had been brought up by opposing parties).

Briege Quinn has been asking for an apology for years going by reports

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Quote from: Taylor on February 06, 2020, 02:02:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 06, 2020, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 06, 2020, 12:33:43 PM
The Paul Quinn story is being used by both sides in the election which is shameful towards the family.

SF are being bashed from all sides in the North and South because of it however if there wasnt an election would the family have ever gotten an apology?

That's the intention.

Correct - but would the apology have come if there wasnt an election upcoming (and this had been brought up by opposing parties).

Briege Quinn has been asking for an apology for years going by reports

SF have been propelled into the leader debates and Mary Lou appeared on the live TV debates. She was cornered on this issue and rightly so. in 24 hours she went from denying what Murphy had said, to having to apologise on his behalf and insist he would withdraw the remarks. She's been caught out lying and SF haven't handled the issue well at all.


brokencrossbar1

SF have not handled it great. What impact is this likely to have on the votes would people reckon?

Harold Disgracey

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 06, 2020, 02:24:42 PM
SF have not handled it great. What impact is this likely to have on the votes would people reckon?

I don't think it'll have the effect certain parties hope it will. Those most vocal on the Quinn's were never likely to vote for the shinners.

Main Street

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 06, 2020, 02:24:42 PM
SF have not handled it great. What impact is this likely to have on the votes would people reckon?
if previous attempts are anything to go by, SF's profile won't suffer.
It was a small last card, flogged to death by all media sources. Nevertheless,  as predictable as ever, Pat Kenny frothing at the mouth got some more milage interviewing Mary Lou this morning when bringing up every IRA atrocity possible.
I think Mary Lou did not deal with Kenny's singular outrage as Adams would have and did when ambushed on the LLS all those years ago, by saying something to the effect, if you want to discuss suffering, then all sides have suffered but how do we deal with it, what process have you got in mind to help people deal with what has happened  besides one sided outbursts of emotional outrage?

BennyCake

One thing that we are reminded of from this week, is that the Dublin government/media are on a par with the Belfast and London media/government when it comes to the old propaganda and SF bashing.

seafoid

Quote from: BennyCake on February 06, 2020, 03:25:28 PM
One thing that we are reminded of from this week, is that the Dublin government/media are on a par with the Belfast and London media/government when it comes to the old propaganda and SF bashing.
Most journalists are groupthinkers. The system doesn't work for them or their readers but they will still parrot what the people in power say.

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Farrandeelin

Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2020, 01:50:57 PM
The changes in constituencies are a reflection of demographic changes over time. Kildare and meath used to be 5 seaters . Now Meath is 2x 3 and Kildare is 2*4.
Donegal , Mayo and Kerry used to be 2x3. Now Donegal and Kerry are 5 seats and Mayo godhelpus is 4.

A couple of thousand in South Mayo are in with Galway West though.
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Main Street

Quote from: BennyCake on February 06, 2020, 03:25:28 PM
One thing that we are reminded of from this week, is that the Dublin government/media are on a par with the Belfast and London media/government when it comes to the old propaganda and SF bashing.
A frenzy of coordinated bashing.
What is of surprise though is the lack of impact, even managing opposite effects. Something has changed in a large portion of today's  u30 generation.

seafoid

Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 06, 2020, 04:06:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2020, 01:50:57 PM
The changes in constituencies are a reflection of demographic changes over time. Kildare and meath used to be 5 seaters . Now Meath is 2x 3 and Kildare is 2*4.
Donegal , Mayo and Kerry used to be 2x3. Now Donegal and Kerry are 5 seats and Mayo godhelpus is 4.

A couple of thousand in South Mayo are in with Galway West though.
That's true but seats are down by a third from the 1980s and the couple of thousand wouldn't merit another seat.
All the job growth is in Dublin. 
This doesn't make economic sense.