The Palestine thread

Started by give her dixie, October 17, 2012, 01:29:42 PM

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ashman


seafoid

Quote from: ashman on January 10, 2016, 11:01:03 PM
You are batshit .  Bye
You only understand what you see. And we are all learning.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Denn Forever

Quote from: ashman on January 10, 2016, 11:01:03 PM
You are batshit .  Bye

In substantial quanties, a very valuable substance.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

seafoid

Israel.is getting interesting again. The minister for education has started banning books. Something remarkable considering Jewish history. And AIPAC has to invite Trump to its conference even though.most Jews are opposed.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

give her dixie

I guess it's time to bring this thread back as it could be busy here following the stupid decision today by Trump
to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

This is a very dangerous move, and over the coming days and weeks we will see just how bad it is.

Israel have the best Government money can buy in the USA. Nearly every politician has been bought by AIPAC,
the large Jewish lobby group. Democratic and Republicans alike feed at the money pit and do whatever is asked
of them by Israel.

This will be messy.....
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

OgraAnDun

When even the American lapdogs in Saudi Arabia are publicly stating that it's a bad move, you know it's a huge mistake. I can't understand it as it's obviously going to seriously inflame tensions, but I suppose his financial backers must want it.

bennydorano

What is he actually hoping to achieve?  Presumably only the US and Israel will now refer to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, the rest of the world will presumably say we don't agree and refuse to recognise it as such. Will anything actually change bar the US Consulate moving from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, heckles being raised and a likely backlash from Palestinians? Is the US not wildly over thinking what actual power it has in this area. Kingdom of Heaven.....

give her dixie

Prior to his election, Obama also called Jerusalem the capital of Israel at the AIPAC convention in '08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkxtErunF3Q
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

macdanger2

He may have American blood on his hands before this is all over although then again, that may be part of the plan

trileacman

Quote from: bennydorano on December 06, 2017, 10:46:32 PM
Will anything actually change bar the US Consulate moving from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, heckles being raised and a likely backlash from Palestinians?

The real cost of his decision will probably be 5-10 Israeli lives and 50-70 Palestinian lives.
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macdanger2

Quote from: trileacman on December 06, 2017, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 06, 2017, 10:46:32 PM
Will anything actually change bar the US Consulate moving from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, heckles being raised and a likely backlash from Palestinians?

The real cost of his decision will probably be 5-10 Israeli lives and 50-70 Palestinian lives.

I'm pretty sure those lives don't count though

give her dixie

This is a good read for some history on Jerusalem and the implications of the decision today...

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-israel-cleansing-palestinians-greater-jewish-jerusalem-800323791
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

seafoid

It is bad for Israel because it is blatant.  Israel needs the Illusion of a peace process to secure the land. Apartheid looks very bad.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

vallankumous

Quote from: OgraAnDun on December 06, 2017, 10:44:02 PM
When even the American lapdogs in Saudi Arabia are publicly stating that it's a bad move, you know it's a huge mistake. I can't understand it as it's obviously going to seriously inflame tensions, but I suppose his financial backers must want it.

I can't understand it either. Is it purely Zionism?
I always thought there would be some sort of political or financial logic to decision this dangerous but I can't see one here. For a change it seems this is an entirely religious based decision. Unless I'm missing something?

vallankumous

Quote from: trileacman on December 06, 2017, 11:23:59 PM


The real cost of his decision will probably be 5-10 Israeli lives and 50-70 Palestinian lives.

This can't be measured. Even in direct attacks it's closer to 5-230

This does not include deaths from injury later, death in custody or damage to infrastructure such as supply lines, hospitals, fuel stores, medicine, agriculture, schools etc that results in many more deaths.