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« Reply #11070 on: December 06, 2017, 11:16:21 PM »
Fox is hilarious. Literally an Irishman talking about undocumented really grinds my gears. The Irish are all over the world undocumented, especially in the US. Pre 9/11 they were able to get citizenship easy but those that didn't are now stuck in a limbo.

Who gives a f**k that Irish people are undocumented all over the world? They should not be undocumented all over the world newbie! And being Irish has got nothing to do with someones opinion on undocumented people being somewhere they are not entitled to be either!

Keep your gears grinding kid, and as for people being 'stuck in limbo' f**k them, they can always come home or better still apply to become documented, they do it to themselves, no one forces them in limbo!

F**k them. That attitude sums up how you'd treat your fellow countryman. Emphasis on countryman. You're a real piece of work Stew. Stay classy.

I dont give two shites about irish illegals anymore than I do Pakistani illegals, or English illegals, they are illegal and why should Irish illegals be thought of any more than some Turkish Illegal person for example?

Stay Classy??? WTF? I have no use for people being in  the states if they have no right to be there! What has that got to do with class and why does my opinion make me a real piece of worK? Is it because I dont fawn over the illegal Irish? Spare me!


I had two sisters over there illegally at one point and my opinion never changed one iota.
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« Reply #11071 on: December 07, 2017, 04:41:35 AM »
so, whitey, fox and stew, how did you qualify to get there?
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« Reply #11072 on: December 07, 2017, 09:07:49 AM »
so, whitey, fox and stew, how did you qualify to get there?
I applied for a visa and poof! There it was.
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« Reply #11073 on: December 07, 2017, 09:24:22 AM »
so, whitey, fox and stew, how did you qualify to get there?
I applied for a visa and poof! There it was.
Which poof?
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« Reply #11074 on: December 08, 2017, 12:25:50 AM »
so, whitey, fox and stew, how did you qualify to get there?
I applied for a visa and poof! There it was.
Which poof?

The poof fairy that granted us permission to pay taxes for having jobs that afforded us the opportunity to pay taxes of course!
 
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« Reply #11075 on: December 08, 2017, 12:48:08 AM »
so, whitey, fox and stew, how did you qualify to get there?

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« Reply #11076 on: December 08, 2017, 03:32:15 AM »
so, whitey, fox and stew, how did you qualify to get there?
I applied for a visa and poof! There it was.

It would be ironic if you guys got your visas due to the hard work and lobbying of illegal Irish immigrants living in the U.S during the 80's and early 90 's!

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« Reply #11077 on: December 08, 2017, 09:26:46 AM »
so, whitey, fox and stew, how did you qualify to get there?
I applied for a visa and poof! There it was.

It would be ironic if you guys got your visas due to the hard work and lobbying of illegal Irish immigrants living in the U.S during the 80's and early 90 's!

We applied and we got in, we did the thing right, we paid our taxes and worked our asses off two give out two girls every opportunity in life, which they took in spades, so I dont need the likes of you lecturing me on what I should have done or who I should have associated with thank you.

I did not want to go to the States, herself had a great job as a District nurse and I had my own thing going on for years before leaving Ireland for America, the house was bought and paid for and we were in great shape, the problem was the troubles got to us, we applied and got our visas and sold everything and left.
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« Reply #11078 on: December 08, 2017, 10:25:33 AM »
Stew, I'm not lecturing you. What I'm trying to point out is that your stance on illegal immigrants is pretty extreme for a guy that might have been afforded one of the biggest breaks in his life due to the lobbying of illegal immigrants that where here before you.

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« Reply #11079 on: December 08, 2017, 10:54:04 AM »
Stew, I'm not lecturing you. What I'm trying to point out is that your stance on illegal immigrants is pretty extreme for a guy that might have been afforded one of the biggest breaks in his life due to the lobbying of illegal immigrants that where here before you.


I did not get a break, I married an American citizen who was born in New York but who moved to Newry when she was 2, I did not want to go because as I told her it would take us five years to get back to were we were and what we had built in Ireland, I was wrong, it took ten.

Getting in was easy for us obviously, the only reason we went was my sisters best mate was killed by loyalist tramps in Belfast, I knew her all of my life and it appalled me, I did not want to live here after that no matter how the family was doing, it completely sickened me, so we moved to the USA and never looked back.

I had two sisters who went the other route, I watched them struggle, I watched them live in fear and get taken advantage of by illegal aliens who happened to get there before them and I myself at one point took a lad in from Armagh, we had one rule, one rule he had to follow, absolutely no drugs in the house, he lived rent free and never so much put his hand in his pocket to buy a bite to eat for four months until he brought drugs into the house and the second time he did it I threw him out ta fcuk, proceeded to tell the irish community what assholes we were!I met him three months ago in the local, he came over and chatted as if nothing had happened,I let it go, normally I would have brought it up but I let it go because it was a long time ago and I realised he did me a favour, he got himself out of our lives and we learned a valuable lesson about trying to help people, we were much more selective going forward.

I did not happen to come by my opinions on illegal immigrants one day sitting on my duff, I formed it based on my observations over many years and many cultures and to my dying day I will never believe for one second that a person should be in a country that did not welcome them, America should tighten its borders, it should vet fully those who would come into the country as I and mine were vetted and they should not kick out illegals that are there at the moment unless they are felons, as for the rest, treat them with dignity and if they support themselves and can prove that over a period of time they should grant them legal status for three years, after that point if they pay their taxes and are upstanding people that enhance the area in which they live I believe they should be granted permanent residency.

As for anyone who came in illegally after Trump got in, they should be tossed out, the USA must draw a line in the sand somewhere and if people are in danger in their own country they should apply for visas that support political refugees and I would hope they would get them if their cause was real.
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« Reply #11080 on: December 08, 2017, 11:42:51 AM »
Stew, you were one of the lucky few that were allowed to come in here legally back then. Hundreds of thousands were not so lucky but they made it work through perseverance and stubbornness. Felons should be deported but the vast majority of illegal immigrants are law abiding people that contribute hugely to society. Many of the illegal Irish here back in the 80's became very successful people once they got their papers, some employing thousands of Americans citizens.
I have a friend who has a similar stance as you. He was living here illegally until 12 years ago, he married a U.S citizen and is now a police officer. He wants to deportations to begin ASAP.

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« Reply #11081 on: December 08, 2017, 11:49:26 AM »
Stew, you were one of the lucky few that were allowed to come in here legally back then. Hundreds of thousands were not so lucky but they made it work through perseverance and stubbornness. Felons should be deported but the vast majority of illegal immigrants are law abiding people that contribute hugely to society. Many of the illegal Irish here back in the 80's became very successful people once they got their papers, some employing thousands of Americans citizens.
I have a friend who has a similar stance as you. He was living here illegally until 12 years ago, he married a U.S citizen and is now a police officer. He wants to deportations to begin ASAP.

Deportations of who? Illegals in general or illegal felons? I hope it is the latter.

I have a tremendous problem with ripping families apart, to me you have to start somewhere, January the 20th or whenever this bullshit arttist became President seems as good as any to me, get rid of illegal felons across the board and grant amnesty to everyone else who was here prior to the inaugeration day of Trump who is working and fit to look after themselves, make them pay taxes and contribute to society and then grant them permanent status when they show they are responsible citizens in their community.

No matter what you do it is not going to be perfect, but you have to start somewhere!
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« Reply #11082 on: December 08, 2017, 11:56:30 AM »
Stew, you were one of the lucky few that were allowed to come in here legally back then. Hundreds of thousands were not so lucky but they made it work through perseverance and stubbornness. Felons should be deported but the vast majority of illegal immigrants are law abiding people that contribute hugely to society. Many of the illegal Irish here back in the 80's became very successful people once they got their papers, some employing thousands of Americans citizens.
I have a friend who has a similar stance as you. He was living here illegally until 12 years ago, he married a U.S citizen and is now a police officer. He wants to deportations to begin ASAP.

I was not lucky, I never wanted to be there in the first place, I would have been just as happy in England or Scotland to be honest, the place did not matter to me, it did to her, I would have preferred to stay local, funnily enough the one place I was adamant we not live in was the republic.

I was not lucky in any way on this, it placed a strain on us because I did not want to be there, nothing against the USA but I did not want to live there, as it turns out it was a brilliant move because I got to make the best friends I have ever had in some cases and my children got to grow up in a fantastic town amongst great people, I got to get paid for my lifes passion and have a wonderful job I loved as well and I got to see my children because beautiful, intelligent young women imbued with that inner confidence Americans seem to have in spades, i have no complaints other than I used to go to EVERY Armagh match and every Harps match, for many years, even as a married man and I missed that more than any of you can imagine, the nearest GFC to me was 200 mile away in Chicago and that sucked!
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« Reply #11083 on: December 08, 2017, 12:24:15 PM »
I don’t get it stew. You’re talking here about amnesty and treating “upstanding” illegals with dignity, yet a few days ago you were ranting that ALL aspects of sanctuary city policies were immoral.

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« Reply #11084 on: December 08, 2017, 12:31:26 PM »
I don’t get it stew. You’re talking here about amnesty and treating “upstanding” illegals with dignity, yet a few days ago you were ranting that ALL aspects of sanctuary city policies were immoral.

They are immoral, I get one go at life, as do we all, I believe everyone deserves to be treated with dignity with the exception of paedos,bent politicians and terrorists!

Sanctuary cities are despicable, San Francisco just proved that, that does not mean that people who take advantage of the liberal dogshit policies of such cities should be treated in any other way than with dignity!

You liberals seem to think non like minded people are hrartless b**tards! We are not, we just have different ideas on how issues should be handled.

Hope this answers your question.


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