26 County General Election 2020

[trailer]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

[Itchy]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

There was no slur on them to say they were used and you'd have to be a complete moron to think i put any slur on them

[trailer]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

There was no slur on them to say they were used and you'd have to be a complete moron to think i put any slur on them

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

[JohnDenver]

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

I think you're wanted over on the SDLP thread Trailer

[Itchy]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

There was no slur on them to say they were used and you'd have to be a complete moron to think i put any slur on them

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

The point I was making is that this was dragged up in the middle of an election after SF started polling strongly. The crime happened in 2007, 13 years earlier. The Southern Media for a decade barely reported on it. Then suddenly they started - have you the intelligence to ask yourself why that is?

I know the Quinns and others, on both sides I might add, continue to search for justice. But do you think it was some sort of incredible coincidence that the Quinns got a breakthrough with the Southern media in the middle of a general election after a decade of getting nowhere. And just so you can stop insinuating I am an apologist for the crime itself, the crime was carried out by the scum of the earth in a cowardly way and I hope those responsible are found and put in jail to rot for the rest of their lives. But yes, the media connived with FF/FG to drag up an old case to try to effect the election result, thats exactly what I am saying.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

I think you're wanted over on the SDLP thread Trailer

What did he say that was wrong out of interest?

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

There was no slur on them to say they were used and you'd have to be a complete moron to think i put any slur on them

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

The point I was making is that this was dragged up in the middle of an election after SF started polling strongly. The crime happened in 2007, 13 years earlier. The Southern Media for a decade barely reported on it. Then suddenly they started - have you the intelligence to ask yourself why that is?

I know the Quinns and others, on both sides I might add, continue to search for justice. But do you think it was some sort of incredible coincidence that the Quinns got a breakthrough with the Southern media in the middle of a general election after a decade of getting nowhere. And just so you can stop insinuating I am an apologist for the crime itself, the crime was carried out by the scum of the earth in a cowardly way and I hope those responsible are found and put in jail to rot for the rest of their lives. But yes, the media connived with FF/FG to drag up an old case to try to effect the election result, thats exactly what I am saying.

Our Finance Minister has the answers.

[JohnDenver]

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

I think you're wanted over on the SDLP thread Trailer

What did he say that was wrong out of interest?

I never claimed he said anything wrong. I was just worried he had inadvertently overlooked the recent activity on the SDLP thread.

[Angelo]

Why are the free state government refusing to release information that could help secure a prosecution against the British soldier who murdered Aidan McAnespie?

The McAnespie family have been looking for Charlie Flanagan to release the independent Garda report into the killing but the Irish government have hidden behind a load of bullshit reasons in not doing so.

It takes a brass neck to moan and moralise about the killing of Paul Quinn when the fee state government is actively obstructing the chance of prosecuting a British soldier who shot an unarmed civilian in the back and killed him.

[trailer]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

There was no slur on them to say they were used and you'd have to be a complete moron to think i put any slur on them

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

The point I was making is that this was dragged up in the middle of an election after SF started polling strongly. The crime happened in 2007, 13 years earlier. The Southern Media for a decade barely reported on it. Then suddenly they started - have you the intelligence to ask yourself why that is?

I know the Quinns and others, on both sides I might add, continue to search for justice. But do you think it was some sort of incredible coincidence that the Quinns got a breakthrough with the Southern media in the middle of a general election after a decade of getting nowhere. And just so you can stop insinuating I am an apologist for the crime itself, the crime was carried out by the scum of the earth in a cowardly way and I hope those responsible are found and put in jail to rot for the rest of their lives. But yes, the media connived with FF/FG to drag up an old case to try to effect the election result, thats exactly what I am saying.

Because it is not true. SF are peddling this line about the media conniving with FF/FG to sully their good name. It's Donald Trumpesque it really is. The idea that it was only brought up at election time is wrong.
Breege Quinn has done 100s of interview since 2007 trying get justice for her son.
Also this bullshit SF line that the Quinns and others on both sides continue to search for justice... SF know exactly who with in the IRA carried out that murder, just like Deirdre Hegarty knew who killed Robert McCartney but never helped the investigation. Hegarty was in the bar.. and then denied that she was.. a man was murdered..a father.. murdered like. He didn't get bate up or a black eye..he was actually murdered and she denied being on the premises. Come on. For God's sake this isn't acceptable of a party of government.

[Rossfan]

The media/FF/FG obviously did a poor job as Shinners went from 11% of the vote in May 2019 to 24% in Feb 2020.
Meanwhile Angelo comes straight from whataboutry bot school making allegations about something called "free state government".

[Baile Brigín 2]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

Have the indo run one Quinn family story since the election? Or Stack family?

I don't think its a slur to say the media ditched them the second they weren't useful.

[Itchy]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

There was no slur on them to say they were used and you'd have to be a complete moron to think i put any slur on them

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

The point I was making is that this was dragged up in the middle of an election after SF started polling strongly. The crime happened in 2007, 13 years earlier. The Southern Media for a decade barely reported on it. Then suddenly they started - have you the intelligence to ask yourself why that is?

I know the Quinns and others, on both sides I might add, continue to search for justice. But do you think it was some sort of incredible coincidence that the Quinns got a breakthrough with the Southern media in the middle of a general election after a decade of getting nowhere. And just so you can stop insinuating I am an apologist for the crime itself, the crime was carried out by the scum of the earth in a cowardly way and I hope those responsible are found and put in jail to rot for the rest of their lives. But yes, the media connived with FF/FG to drag up an old case to try to effect the election result, thats exactly what I am saying.

Because it is not true. SF are peddling this line about the media conniving with FF/FG to sully their good name. It's Donald Trumpesque it really is. The idea that it was only brought up at election time is wrong.
Breege Quinn has done 100s of interview since 2007 trying get justice for her son.
Also this bullshit SF line that the Quinns and others on both sides continue to search for justice... SF know exactly who with in the IRA carried out that murder, just like Deirdre Hegarty knew who killed Robert McCartney but never helped the investigation. Hegarty was in the bar.. and then denied that she was.. a man was murdered..a father.. murdered like. He didn't get bate up or a black eye..he was actually murdered and she denied being on the premises. Come on. For God's sake this isn't acceptable of a party of government.

You are so blinded by hatred of SF you cant even see I am not even talking about the same thing you are. I assume you are north of the border too because you have to be blind or stupid to not see how the media in the south tried to influence the election.

[Itchy]

The media/FF/FG obviously did a poor job as Shinners went from 11% of the vote in May 2019 to 24% in Feb 2020.
Meanwhile Angelo comes straight from whataboutry bot school making allegations about something called "free state government".

Yes, that is partially true. When SF started polling very strongly, the big guns were rolled out. Quinn case was thrown out etc. The Media, like most of us, were caught napping by the resurgence in the SF vote. I actually think they probably did do some damage as if they played fair SF could have done even better. The other thing of course was that SF were caught themselves and didnt field enough candidates.

But none of that is really the point I am making, the point is that the mainstream media in this country is bought and they are not independent and no better than Fox news in the states. Especially that Indo rag.

[trailer]

True but if a gang of savage murderous thugs hadn't broken every bone in the chap's body in the process of murdering him with crowbars..... 
Mrs Quinn was more than glad of the opportunity to highlight what the savage thugs did to her son.

The gang of thugs (exactly what they are) that carried out the murder werent standing for election 13 years later in the south. It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result.

But those with vital information on the murder are in office for SF

If that is true (I doubt it is) they were in office in 2017 and 2018 and 2019. Why wait until the middle of a general election? Coincidence was it?

No coincidence but unresolved political scandals often become topical again at election time.  This sort of thing has been going on for my lifetime. The comings and goings of the 1970 Arms Trial used bother Charlie Haughey in elections campaigns in the 80s.

I dont recall it being brought up by media in such a sustained manner. Not the only example I could give you either and I think you know that full well.

Briege Quinn and the Quinn family have constantly and consistently fought to keep Paul's murder in the public eye and to suggest it has coincidence or it has been used to political point score is a slur on the Quinns. It is the modus operandi of SF and the Provo family. Deflect, start a whispering campaign, link the person murdered with crime and criminality, anything to deflect from what they did. SF and the IRA have a long, long, list of absolutely heinous crimes against the very communities they say that they protect. People would do well to remember this when they vote for them. 
Your slur on the Quinn family is absolutely disgraceful and you should retract it. They weren't and aren't being used.

Have the indo run one Quinn family story since the election? Or Stack family?

I don't think its a slur to say the media ditched them the second they weren't useful.

The media kind of been busy with a few other big stories in fairness and any Newspaper has been running on half power for last few months. Look I'm not defending the papers but Breege Quinn has constantly and consistently been doing interviews since her son was murdered and she is not a FF/FG/print media/establishment lacky and to suggest that is wrong.