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To think some do gooder clowns in Dublin thought it was a good idea to let this disturbed little man lead an orange parade down O Connell street. What does he hope to gain from this other than being bet off the street - although that is probably what he wants.

Are you Itchy in disguise?

In their own land = In their own state.

Crystal?

Nothings crystal in the mirky world left after the imperial empires have left places in a sorry state.

where is this own state/own land you talk of and when did it come into existence?

Israel's borders, in their own warped minds, grow larger every day as they ethnically cleanse people and then plant settlers on that same land. They use the politics of fear to do this, exaggerating the threat igniting memories of the holocaust in the minds of the Israeli population so that they will support these actions of theft, cleansing and murder for "security". Its the same formula used by America when invading Iraq illegally and of course that threat was a lie. The Arab world is no threat to Israel who sits on an arsenal of nuclear weapons. Israel is all about stealing land to make a larger Jewish state and whoever has to pay for that dream, well that is their tough luck. Not until the us grows some balls and starts doing what is right and starts ignoring the ferocious Jewish lobby will anything ever change.

Folks, any chance we can keep this thread civilised ?

No problem, see there is some debate actually happening now instead of the endless cut and paste from the various newspapers. No need to thank me.

Ah, sure seeing as it's Christmas, I will thank you anyway

You're very welcome, it was my pleasure.

Folks, any chance we can keep this thread civilised ?

No problem, see there is some debate actually happening now instead of the endless cut and paste from the various newspapers. No need to thank me.

Have Down named a panel yet? Looking forward to the inter county season starting again and hoping Terry Hylands magic touch can rub of on the Cavan seniors.

Anyone who says GAA changes their rules loads but rugby doesn't simply knows nothing about the modern rugby game. Apart from continual modification on a yearly basis (which happens in all sports) rugby introduced 23 rule variations (look up "Experimental law variations" on google). The critical thing is that these rule changes were brought in with the express purpose of fundamentally changing the way the game was played. AND THEY WORKED! Rugby is a more open game now than the boring kick-to-touch dross it was before. Has anyone considered that perhaps this is the reason that rugby has now become such a popular spectator sport to people who ten years ago you would never have thought would been interested?

Rugby identified where it's on-field product was lacking quality. They took dramatic measures to change that, did so, and now have a more marketable product which an increasing number of people want to see. The GAA are totally correct to do the same. The only debate should be if these measures will achieve that aim.

Well said. Football needs to be opened up so that it us an attractive game otherwise we will lose the next generation to soccer or rugby. We need to bite the bullet and give these new rules a chance before football games have more yellow cards than scores.

[you]

Why are you on a gaa forum ballbag?

can I ask you, we're you brought up to be disrespectful and childish? Even in our deepest disagreements, I have found other posters mature enough to at least use the others correct username and not resort to petty name calling.

Did your parents never tell you not to answer a question with another question? Why are you on a gaa forum ballbag?

Why are you on a gaa forum ballbag?

Did you forget to log on as your alter ego before you posted Millie.

But why are you on a gaa forum ballbag?

Strange behaviour Millie Na Gcaorach. You quote me but are addressing ballbag. Is seems that perhaps you are addressing me as ballbag, very odd (please see below for a possible reason for this). Very well I will answer. I signed up to talk about GAA originally but when I saw a problem on here my training tells me to try an fix that problem.

Your 2nd attempt to defend your friend is admirable, but misguided, as I am only trying to help old ballbag. It is interesting from a psychologists perspective to see one WUM defend another WUM. Very interesting indeed as it means there are only three possibilities..

1- Millie Na Gcaorach and Ballbag are one and the same unwell individual.
2- There is loyalty between WUM's
3- Millie Na Gcaorach and Ballbag are lovers (most likely gay lovers)

I am leaning towards number 3 given the way Millie na Gcaorach reacted twice with some aggression to my healing of Ballbag. That aggression probably comes from jealousy that I am making progress with Ballbag where Millie Na Gcaorach could not. I just want to say Millie, its OK. You keep loving Ballbag and I'll send him back to you a bigger, more important, more adequate lover.

So is ball de beaver someone from the cavan thread? Did he cross myles and morph into a zionist?

Its an interesting theory Seafood. However I have to say I have not seen ballbag or Millie na gcaorach over on the Cavan thread. I don't think either are big supporters of Cavan or of the GAA in general to be honest.

Does your carer not read your posts first?

You're posts are getting shorter, this is good and an important step. Hopefully soon we can get down to no words then I can help you evolve into something better. Keep the faith ballbag.

[jews]

Itchy,
I don't think the Palestinians are perfect. They could do things better. They have their own issues. I wouldn't vote hamas. Non violence would get more sympathy. It wouldn't make any difference against the israeli army though. Ask the people of bil'in.
But the Palestinians don't run the system. The jews do and for over 60 years they have been denying palestinians rights on the basis they are barbarians. And the Jews in israel are comfortable with apartheid. And that is the most important thing.  I don't think jewish apartheid has a future. Btw I think you have learnt a good bit recently so keep it up

Hatred of jews is your primary concern. The Palestinian cause is merely incidental. It is important that people are aware of this.

You should go and see a shrink. If Kerry were winning all Irelands would following me around the board  be the only way to get you through the winter?  Paidi o se was a legendary marker but you are just an internet user.

Maybe that shrink could look into your obsessed little mind and figure out how Galway, of all places,  could breed such a vicious anti-semite.

I'm all booked up Mike, I'm going to have to do ballbag in the evenings and weekends so Seafood will have to wait. But in the meantime he should recognise that individual suffering on both sides of the divide is the same and no one has a monopoly on sorrow. If he can admit this then his numerous posts can be taken more seriously and not as those of someone who does, at times, come across as anti "jewish".

If I thought for one second that my hard earned taxes were used in the " education" of this idiot, I'm asking for my money back.
Has any village in Cavan lost an idiot lately. If they have....... We got him.

I'm trying to help you ballbag so I will disregard the ridiculous idea that you are employed and pay taxes. Come visit me, I can cure you and make you the big man you always wanted to be.

You're not really coming across any better slim, it seems regardless of what Seafoid thinks you've a fair bit of learning to do yet.

Qualified psychologist like me was one of the highlights of the board in recent times.

I'm a sponge puck, educate me.

I know plenty about Israel and Palestine and my starting point here was to try and force seafood to agree that atrocities inflicted by Palestinians are just as wrong as the atrocities of israel, irrespective of quantities involved. Israel is the main aggressor for sure. So unless you want fine details what am I missing?

Why take the whole Isreal/Pelestine situation so serious? Not like it has just occurred, been going on for over 100 years. Chill out its xmass..

Rodney life and death is a serious issue. However during the course of attempted debate we discovered ballbag is only here to wind people up. Using some secret techniques I've drawn ballbag out of his shell and built a profile on a spreadsheet here at home. The man is not well and needs help. The motto of my practise is "see a problem, fix a problem". It means it is morally wrong for a man like me with the tools I have to not help a poor soul like ballbag. Its not a matter of chilling out rather a matter of helping the needy. I hope that helps to clear it up.

You really are a hate filled wee runt, aren't you.

Any time you want to debate the subject, I'm your man. chop chop

Qualified psychologists like me are trained not to hate and since I'm 6'2" I am not normally described as a wee runt. However, the profile I've built of you ballbag seems to be spot on. You reacted to the insects in the jar didn't you? How many spiders did you kill ballbag? How did it make you feel, like a big man I expect? But you are not a big man are you, you're a little scut aren't you? Come see me at my practise sometime and we'll sort this out but its a long process and will probably take 20 to 40 visits to get all the bile out.

Is sky done through the dish and if so what is the lag like. If anyone has the ping values they get on sky I'd be interested to see them.