The Fine Gael thread

[trueblue1234]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

[whitey]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

[Eire90]

you said the  so called far right need to be be beat off the streets whos going to do that seeing republican types seem to be terrified

The gardai should be doing it. Better still local residents. I never mentioned "republican types" whatever that is.

are lots of protestors not themselves local residents  the gardai cant beat people up for standing in the streets

i dont think local residents want to put themselves in danger.

[Eire90]

republican types the like the inla who claim to be left wing 32 county socialists  but seem to be terrified of the far right.

[Snapchap]

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........

Well as far as I can tell, you have never once mentioned the subject of tax evasion by our non-dom superwealthy. Not once have you blamed such tax evasion for the lack of additional funding available to health/education etc. You have only ever wanted to blame it (and everything else) on immigration, and to post obsessively about that.

we just happen to be discussing immigration

I'm also trying to discuss tax evasion, but you've made it abundantly clear that you're not willing or interested enough to get involved. You only want to talk about those pesky immigrants. Which tells a lot about how genuine your claims are to be only motivated by concern for the money that should be available to help those "disabled kids in hospital".

[Snapchap]

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........

Well as far as I can tell, you have never once mentioned the subject of tax evasion by our non-dom superwealthy. Not once have you blamed such tax evasion for the lack of additional funding available to health/education etc. You have only ever wanted to blame it (and everything else) on immigration, and to post obsessively about that.

we just happen to be discussing immigration

I'm also trying to discuss tax evasion, but you've made it abundantly clear that you're not willing or interested enough to get involved. You only want to talk about those pesky immigrants. Which tells a lot about how genuine your claims are to be only motivated by concern for the money that should be available to help those "disabled kids in hospital". It's almost as though your distate for immigrants is motivated by...something else.

[trueblue1234]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

[whitey]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

[trueblue1234]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

[whitey]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

So is it xenophobic for people to support the governments policy of
"bringing Ireland in line with other EU countries" when it comes to welfare payments to Ukrainians?

https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/ireland-to-cut-financial-support-for-ukrainian-refugees-1f1b1c7d#

[trueblue1234]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

So is it xenophobic for people to support the governments policy of
"bringing Ireland in line with other EU countries" when it comes to welfare payments to Ukrainians?

https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/ireland-to-cut-financial-support-for-ukrainian-refugees-1f1b1c7d#

Who claimed that?

[whitey]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

So is it xenophobic for people to support the governments policy of
"bringing Ireland in line with other EU countries" when it comes to welfare payments to Ukrainians?

https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/ireland-to-cut-financial-support-for-ukrainian-refugees-1f1b1c7d#

Who claimed that?

You did. Unless I misunderstood you

[whitey]

Great-we've reached a consensus then

So if a person is upset about the financial cost of the Ukrainians to the Irish taxpayer, they are neither racist nor xenophobic

[trueblue1234]

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

So is it xenophobic for people to support the governments policy of
"bringing Ireland in line with other EU countries" when it comes to welfare payments to Ukrainians?

https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/ireland-to-cut-financial-support-for-ukrainian-refugees-1f1b1c7d#

Who claimed that?

You did. Unless I misunderstood you

You did.

The reason I think you're xenophobic is that you only post about the impact of immigration on service provision, And none of the other factors that impact it. That makes me think you've decided to weight more against that factor because it fits in with your beliefs better.

Just my opinion to be fair.

[whitey]

Still completely confused about what you're saying


Are you saying that I'm xenophobic for even posting about it?

(Even though my position is in line with 59% of people polled by the Irish times)



I leave it here:

Do people have legitimate reasons (not fueled by Xenophoba or Racism) to be angry about how the government has handled this crisis?