Money, Dublin and the GAA

Started by IolarCoisCuain, October 04, 2016, 07:27:37 PM

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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
What doesn't help matters is the present President of the GAA John Horan is a Dub. From listening to him in interviews, he is in as much denial as the average Dub supporter on the street. And the GAA President is enjoying their success (as he rightly is expected to).
What are we denying exacrly?

Jinxy

Lads, remember INDIANA?
Where's he gone?
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 10:05:49 PM
Lads, remember INDIANA?
Where's he gone?

Is he sulking due to the absence of St Vincent's players on the Dublin panel? ;)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Jinxy

He took the summer off and headed to the States to support Dermo.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 10:05:49 PM
Lads, remember INDIANA?
Where's he gone?

Where has Zulu gone? went missing after the 20th minute of yesterdays game. Come to think of it he's probably watching replays of those exciting Super 8 games that made our summer so exciting!

Clinker

Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 10:05:49 PM
Lads, remember INDIANA?
Where's he gone?

He was good craic on Up for the Match. His posts here didn't do justice to his real self.

Jinxy

Reckon he got a gig in the backroom team minding the back-up iPad for the stats.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

highorlow

McKenna is on the tonight show tonight on tv3 of whatever the channel is called these days
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

From the Bunker

Quote from: highorlow on September 03, 2018, 10:27:46 PM
McKenna is on the tonight show tonight on tv3 of whatever the channel is called these days

McKenna got all his points across as well as he could over a skype connection. Aodhan O'Riordan sang to his electorate ''How dare he put down the hard work of the man on the ground'''. And attacked the McKenna's personality after that.

criostlinn

What ever happened to the old mantra "Dublin winning an All Ireland is good for the Gaa"

Now that Cork football is at such a low point should the Gaa consider pumping huge amounts of money, lets say 16 million over 10 years or something like that into Cork Gaa and whilst at it cut off vital funding to all other counties. And then just to put the icing on the cake lets move all serious football matches into parc ui choaimh. Let them have home advantage in all championship matches.

Cork Football is competing with so many other sports, surely a solution like this can only benefit the Gaa.

We would still have a problem with the population but maybe a couple of rule changes like Cork would have first dibs on players from all of Munster would help.

It may seem radical and may not go down well in the capital but the organisation has to step up for the "good of the GAA"

Could Michael Martin as Taoiseach deliver something like this


Jinxy

I think the 'financial doping' accusation is pretty appropriate in this context.
Take a supremely fit athlete, who trains hard, eats all the right food, gets 8 hours sleep etc.
Now, give him steroids, growth hormone, EPO etc.
He was already a brilliant athlete, working as hard as he could, now you've made him unbeatable.
This is what a lot of Dublin fans don't seem to understand.
Nobody is saying this Dublin team, and by extension the county board, haven't put in trojan work over many years to reach this point.
In the same way the Kilkenny county board had their systems & structures in place for their glory years.
The difference between the two examples is the massive injection of money that Dublin received, which (per capita) is far in excess of that available to other counties.
You can replicate hard work.
You can't replicate money.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 04, 2018, 12:05:01 AM
Quote from: highorlow on September 03, 2018, 10:27:46 PM
McKenna is on the tonight show tonight on tv3 of whatever the channel is called these days

McKenna got all his points across as well as he could over a skype connection. Aodhan O'Riordan sang to his electorate ''How dare he put down the hard work of the man on the ground'''. And attacked the McKenna's personality after that.

So they got a fanboy to rebuttal and gave MacKenna no right to reply. Fox News level broadcasting.
#newbridgeornowhere

seafoid

Quote from: Jinxy on September 04, 2018, 10:02:21 AM
I think the 'financial doping' accusation is pretty appropriate in this context.
Take a supremely fit athlete, who trains hard, eats all the right food, gets 8 hours sleep etc.
Now, give him steroids, growth hormone, EPO etc.
He was already a brilliant athlete, working as hard as he could, now you've made him unbeatable.
This is what a lot of Dublin fans don't seem to understand.
Nobody is saying this Dublin team, and by extension the county board, haven't put in trojan work over many years to reach this point.
In the same way the Kilkenny county board had their systems & structures in place for their glory years.
The difference between the two examples is the massive injection of money that Dublin received, which (per capita) is far in excess of that available to other counties.
You can replicate hard work.
You can't replicate money.
You can't. The Dubs are like a supertrawler hoovering up talent into their massive system with other counties like small fishing boats. It isn't even remotely sustainable. None of the other counties have the resources to compete.

The GAA can either bring in more counties from somewhere else to give the Dubs a game or else cut the Dubs down to the size of the competitors . It won't fix itself.

I think it puts a different slant on the summer travails of counties like Laois and Meath too.
Compared to the Dubs they were way off the mark but the Dubs are mutant.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

armaghniac

Quote from: criostlinn on September 04, 2018, 09:43:46 AM
What ever happened to the old mantra "Dublin winning an All Ireland is good for the Gaa"

Now that Cork football is at such a low point should the Gaa consider pumping huge amounts of money, lets say 16 million over 10 years or something like that into Cork Gaa and whilst at it cut off vital funding to all other counties. And then just to put the icing on the cake lets move all serious football matches into parc ui choaimh. Let them have home advantage in all championship matches.

Cork Football is competing with so many other sports, surely a solution like this can only benefit the Gaa.

We would still have a problem with the population but maybe a couple of rule changes like Cork would have first dibs on players from all of Munster would help.

It may seem radical and may not go down well in the capital but the organisation has to step up for the "good of the GAA"

Could Michael Martin as Taoiseach deliver something like this

I suppose compulsory cross breeding between the Kerry Men's team and Cork Ladies would be out of the question nowadays?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/an-eternal-dublin-empire-is-nothing-to-be-excited-about-1.3616123?mode=amp

At last someone other than McKenna has seen the light.
Hopefully officialdom in the 24 football Counties will start making Central GAA open their eyes.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM