The Fine Gael thread

Started by Maguire01, October 16, 2012, 08:14:56 PM

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Eire90

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/03/28/mass-influx-of-refugees-due-to-european-war-seen-as-potential-risk-to-ireland/

A mass influx of refugees due to a potential European war is one of the key risks facing Ireland, according to the latest Government risk assessment.

In its first National Risk Assessment in four years, the Government views such a risk as "very likely" and has raised concerns about the impact on the economy.

For the first time, the National Risk Assessment, which will be published on Thursday, includes "mass inward population displacement" as a major potential threat to the country.

According to the assessment, which was drafted by the Office of Emergency Planning in the Department of Defence as well as experts from other Government departments, the "reasonable worst-case scenario" is a "mass inward population influx, coupled with an increase in international protection applicants, impacting the carrying capacity of the economy".

Snapchap

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:51:59 AMUnfortunately theres a fair chunk of ordinary people with genuine concerns about immigration (fair few there will be a small bit racist too I'll admit) but they're by no stretch far right looneys. The danger is the far right looneys who are probably 0.001% can appeal to that more moderate chunk who have been let down the major parties and feel like they've no choice.

If you are looking at the next election with your main focus being on immigration, then I'm afraid you are either stupid or racist (and all racists are stupid).

Interesting listening to Brolly's podcast today. He referenced a recent Ipsos research poll into people's biggest priorities in the 26 counties.

Immigration finished top at 22%!!!! To put that f**king lunacy into context, healthcare came in at 4%. Education came in at 2%. Taxes and the economy at 2%. Energy prices, which have increased by around 1,000% in the last decade at 2%.

If you're the sort of person for whom immigration is more imporant than healthcare, taxation, education, housing, the cost of living, then you're too f**king stupid to see how you're being manipulated.

armaghniac

Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 12:48:18 PMIf you're the sort of person for whom immigration is more imporant than healthcare, taxation, education, housing, the cost of living, then you're too f**king stupid to see how you're being manipulated.

Immigration affects health, education and housing.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Itchy

Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:51:59 AMUnfortunately theres a fair chunk of ordinary people with genuine concerns about immigration (fair few there will be a small bit racist too I'll admit) but they're by no stretch far right looneys. The danger is the far right looneys who are probably 0.001% can appeal to that more moderate chunk who have been let down the major parties and feel like they've no choice.

If you are looking at the next election with your main focus being on immigration, then I'm afraid you are either stupid or racist (and all racists are stupid).

Interesting listening to Brolly's podcast today. He referenced a recent Ipsos research poll into people's biggest priorities in the 26 counties.

Immigration finished top at 22%!!!! To put that f**king lunacy into context, healthcare came in at 4%. Education came in at 2%. Taxes and the economy at 2%. Energy prices, which have increased by around 1,000% in the last decade at 2%.

If you're the sort of person for whom immigration is more imporant than healthcare, taxation, education, housing, the cost of living, then you're too f**king stupid to see how you're being manipulated.

Yep, its easy to blame all your woes on foreigners and some people are just to thick to see what is being done to them. People going on about SF moving right. Wait till you see the independents and FG in the next 6 months.

Snapchap

Quote from: armaghniac on March 28, 2024, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 12:48:18 PMIf you're the sort of person for whom immigration is more imporant than healthcare, taxation, education, housing, the cost of living, then you're too f**king stupid to see how you're being manipulated.

Immigration affects health, education and housing.

If you cant afford to full your oil tank, or if you cant access a GP, and your first thought is to blame immigrants, then, again, you're either stupid, or racist and stupid.

Itchy

Quote from: armaghniac on March 28, 2024, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 12:48:18 PMIf you're the sort of person for whom immigration is more imporant than healthcare, taxation, education, housing, the cost of living, then you're too f**king stupid to see how you're being manipulated.

Immigration affects health, education and housing.

Give me the stats on the health and housing. Education has been a struggle in the South more to do with the appalling planning by government. Show me the data that says immigration has caused increased waiting times in hospitals. Show me where housing affordability was caused in some way by Immigrants (most of them are rammed into building that were never to be used for housing - old hotels for example)

Eire90

you said the  so called far right need to be be beat off the streets whos going to do that seeing republican types seem to be terrified

Rossfan

Immigrants affected the Health system alright.....







By fkn keeping it going through their work in it!
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

whitey

Immigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp







Itchy

Quote from: Eire90 on March 28, 2024, 01:06:57 PMyou said the  so called far right need to be be beat off the streets whos going to do that seeing republican types seem to be terrified

The gardai should be doing it. Better still local residents. I never mentioned "republican types" whatever that is.

Itchy

Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PMImmigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp








We have a price to pay for being part of the EU. Taking our fair share of emigrants is part of it. We have a choice, leave the EU. Lets see how that goes for the Brits who you do seem to have more in common with than anyone else.

Armagh18

Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 12:58:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 28, 2024, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 12:48:18 PMIf you're the sort of person for whom immigration is more imporant than healthcare, taxation, education, housing, the cost of living, then you're too f**king stupid to see how you're being manipulated.

Immigration affects health, education and housing.

If you cant afford to full your oil tank, or if you cant access a GP, and your first thought is to blame immigrants, then, again, you're either stupid, or racist and stupid.
Calling being stupid isn't gonna win too many votes. There are an awful lot of stupid people around though lol

Rossfan

Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PMImmigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp








We have a price to pay for being part of the EU. Taking our fair share of emigrants is part of it. We have a choice, leave the EU. Lets see how that goes for the Brits who you do seem to have more in common with than anyone else.
The vast majority of immigrants are working, paying for their accomodation, buying their own food and clothes, paying VAT, PAYE, PRSI, USC etc
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Pearse Doherty was on Claire Byrne now and he spoke a lot of sense. The Government sould take account of what is happening now and decide on fuel tax increases based on that. The idea that SF are out of touch is pure gaslighting.

The other thing is that FG do not own the flag and neither do they own Irishness.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

RedHand88

#2669
Ireland is predicted to have a surplus of €67 billion by 2027. The money it costs to keep asylum seekers is a drop in the ocean.
They are not to blame for the lack of housing.