Things that make you go What the F**k?

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Eire90

probably had a son lose a decision and there fragile egos couldnt take it.


trailer

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.


Armagh18

Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.


Near as bad as a certain demographic in America. But sure we're all racists if we mention either.

J70

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 03, 2024, 09:07:56 AM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.


Near as bad as a certain demographic in America. But sure we're all racists if we mention either.

Sure why not have the courage of your convictions and lay out whatever case you feel needs to be made?


The fact that blacks constitute a disproportionate segment of the US prison population is a universally acknowledged fact.

David McKeown

Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.



Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.
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trailer

Quote from: David McKeown on March 03, 2024, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.



Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?



Tony Baloney

Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 01:05:14 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 03, 2024, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.



Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?



They choose to commit crime.

trailer

Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 03, 2024, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 01:05:14 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 03, 2024, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.



Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?



They choose to commit crime.

Well thought their might be some bullshit narrative about their areas being deprived.

Eire90

What happened on the lifford-strabane bridge last night media have gone quiet apparantly ambulances boats and helicopters involved psni and garda closed bridge.


https://highlandradio.com/2024/03/03/lifford-bridge-closed-due-to-ongoing-incident/

seafoid

In the Last 6 years, Limerick have won 5 hurling titles, Dublin have won 4 football titles, Man City have won 5 Premiership titles and Shamrock Rovers have won 4 League of Ireland titles.

Last year, they all won a title.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

David McKeown

Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 01:05:14 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 03, 2024, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.



Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?




Criminology is a very complex area so I dont purport to explain it all.  There's plenty of interrelated criminogenic factors, median income, population density, age, gender balance all have major impacts on crime rates, as do other features.  For example petty crime has exploded in Northern Ireland since the end of the troubles.  There's a large number of reasons for that, but one of the main ones was the availability and trust in police to investigate same.  During the troubles there was a disproportionate number of protestant low level criminals but that was reflective of crime reports etc. I cant remember what the most recent figures were but they are much closer. 

The point I'm making is that in very few places in the world if any does the prison population match the breakdown of society,
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Dubh driocht

Petty crime has not exploded since the end of the troubles.  In fact it has gone down.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/385106/crime-rate-in-northern-ireland/

David McKeown

Quote from: Dubh driocht on March 03, 2024, 08:56:31 PMPetty crime has not exploded since the end of the troubles.  In fact it has gone down.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/385106/crime-rate-in-northern-ireland/

Now it's been nearly 20 years since I studied Criminology but I don't think that link shows the whole story. The earliest figure I see on that link is from 2002. Which is not when the troubles ended. During the 80's and 90's total crime stood at I think around the mid 40's crime per 1000 people mark including terrorism offences. In 2002 it was over 60. It has come down since but given that the troubles crime rate included terrorism offences I stand by what I was taught which Professor Kieran McEvoy used to describe in his books as the Ulster Paradise.

Certainly Wikipedia and this article seem to suggest that was correct.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Northern_Ireland

https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/othelem/research/esrc7.htm

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Quote from: David McKeown on March 03, 2024, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 01:05:14 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 03, 2024, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.



Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?




Criminology is a very complex area so I dont purport to explain it all.  There's plenty of interrelated criminogenic factors, median income, population density, age, gender balance all have major impacts on crime rates, as do other features.  For example petty crime has exploded in Northern Ireland since the end of the troubles.  There's a large number of reasons for that, but one of the main ones was the availability and trust in police to investigate same.  During the troubles there was a disproportionate number of protestant low level criminals but that was reflective of crime reports etc. I cant remember what the most recent figures were but they are much closer. 

The point I'm making is that in very few places in the world if any does the prison population match the breakdown of society,

Fair bit of nonsense
Quote from: David McKeown on March 03, 2024, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 01:05:14 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 03, 2024, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 03, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 03, 2024, 04:31:53 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Not really. 7% of the prison population identify as travellers. Only 0.7% of overall population identify as travellers.



Of course you wouldn't expect the prison population to match the general population distribution. There's hundreds of reasons for that.  Crime being higher in traditionally impoverished areas being one of the most prevalent.

What are the reasons for the higher crime rate?




Criminology is a very complex area so I dont purport to explain it all.  There's plenty of interrelated criminogenic factors, median income, population density, age, gender balance all have major impacts on crime rates, as do other features.  For example petty crime has exploded in Northern Ireland since the end of the troubles.  There's a large number of reasons for that, but one of the main ones was the availability and trust in police to investigate same.  During the troubles there was a disproportionate number of protestant low level criminals but that was reflective of crime reports etc. I cant remember what the most recent figures were but they are much closer. 

The point I'm making is that in very few places in the world if any does the prison population match the breakdown of society,

"Complex" = Go away. Stop asking questions.  The judiciary wants you to stop looking at the obvious.