All-Ireland Final, September 18th, 2016 - Dublin v Mayo

Started by IolarCoisCuain, August 28, 2016, 07:45:10 PM

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macdanger2

Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:07:14 PM
Sure we'll go up for then look anyway.
Paul Flynn must be carrying an injury, not the same player of a few years ago.

On Kerry, had to smile at Spillanes comment of Kerry dying with their boots on....5 points and 3 points up at different stages. We know the narrative that we'd get if Mayo did that and lost.... :-X

Aye, very little mention of choking and lack of natural markey forwards

moysider

Quote from: BennyHarp on August 28, 2016, 10:35:09 PM
Mayo should have beaten the Dubs last year and the Dubs have lost two of their better defenses since then. Kerry showed today that the Dubs are beatable and for my money Mayo have a management team who are well able to come up with  a gameplan to win the game and experienced players who have been around long enough, to confidently implement it. I hope Mayo can pull it off and I'd be tempted at odds approaching 3/1. Looking forward to a cracking final.

I think Kerry today showed Dublin extremely difficult to beat rather than beatable.



INDIANA

Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:07:14 PM
Sure we'll go up for then look anyway.
Paul Flynn must be carrying an injury, not the same player of a few years ago.

On Kerry, had to smile at Spillanes comment of Kerry dying with their boots on....5 points and 3 points up at different stages. We know the narrative that we'd get if Mayo did that and lost.... :-X

Mayo can match Dublin in most areas. If they get 2-3 goals they can win. It's hard to credit it based on their form so far. But they are the team most likely to beat Dublin

Captain Obvious

Quote from: thewobbler on August 28, 2016, 10:56:24 PM
My tuppence is that Mayo are a better team than Kerry, so if they bring the same intensity to it as the kingdom did today, then it'll be close enough.
Better based on what? Going on this years form this Mayo team wouldnt have beaten that Kerry team.

IolarCoisCuain

Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2016, 11:13:54 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:07:14 PM
Sure we'll go up for then look anyway.
Paul Flynn must be carrying an injury, not the same player of a few years ago.

On Kerry, had to smile at Spillanes comment of Kerry dying with their boots on....5 points and 3 points up at different stages. We know the narrative that we'd get if Mayo did that and lost.... :-X

Mayo can match Dublin in most areas. If they get 2-3 goals they can win. It's hard to credit it based on their form so far. But they are the team most likely to beat Dublin

Hard to imagine anyone else doing it this year alright.

ballinaman

Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2016, 11:13:54 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:07:14 PM
Sure we'll go up for then look anyway.
Paul Flynn must be carrying an injury, not the same player of a few years ago.

On Kerry, had to smile at Spillanes comment of Kerry dying with their boots on....5 points and 3 points up at different stages. We know the narrative that we'd get if Mayo did that and lost.... :-X

Mayo can match Dublin in most areas. If they get 2-3 goals they can win. It's hard to credit it based on their form so far. But they are the team most likely to beat Dublin
That's a fair analysis. Dublin bit like medusa at the minute...Brogan/Flynn have off days like today....Kevin Mc/Rock have stormers and vice versa.
Keegan/Connolly will cancel each other out as usual...

thewobbler

Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 28, 2016, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 28, 2016, 10:56:24 PM
My tuppence is that Mayo are a better team than Kerry, so if they bring the same intensity to it as the kingdom did today, then it'll be close enough.
Better based on what? Going on this years form this Mayo team wouldnt have beaten that Kerry team.

Unlike Kerry though, Mayo have actually beaten a top class team this season.

Mayo have a core of 8-10 top class players either in or very close to their prime. Kerry have 2 or 3 top class players, 2-3 former top class, and the rest are inconsistent or not good enough.

While the Kingdom might be cute hoors who get unbelievable slices of luck (like cluxton's melt today), Mayo are just a superior side.

Jinxy

Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:17:23 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2016, 11:13:54 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:07:14 PM
Sure we'll go up for then look anyway.
Paul Flynn must be carrying an injury, not the same player of a few years ago.

On Kerry, had to smile at Spillanes comment of Kerry dying with their boots on....5 points and 3 points up at different stages. We know the narrative that we'd get if Mayo did that and lost.... :-X

Mayo can match Dublin in most areas. If they get 2-3 goals they can win. It's hard to credit it based on their form so far. But they are the team most likely to beat Dublin
That's a fair analysis. Dublin bit like medusa at the minute...Brogan/Flynn have off days like today....Kevin Mc/Rock have stormers and vice versa.
Keegan/Connolly will cancel each other out as usual...

Yer wan with the snakes on her head?
If you were any use you'd be playing.

ballinaman

Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:17:23 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2016, 11:13:54 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:07:14 PM
Sure we'll go up for then look anyway.
Paul Flynn must be carrying an injury, not the same player of a few years ago.

On Kerry, had to smile at Spillanes comment of Kerry dying with their boots on....5 points and 3 points up at different stages. We know the narrative that we'd get if Mayo did that and lost.... :-X

Mayo can match Dublin in most areas. If they get 2-3 goals they can win. It's hard to credit it based on their form so far. But they are the team most likely to beat Dublin
That's a fair analysis. Dublin bit like medusa at the minute...Brogan/Flynn have off days like today....Kevin Mc/Rock have stormers and vice versa.
Keegan/Connolly will cancel each other out as usual...

Yer wan with the snakes on her head?
Aye, have you not seen MDMAs locks this year... :o

moysider

Dublin won today without scoring a goal. McMahon butchered a chance when he should have put McMan. in for a gimmie. It took great tackling to keep out Brogan also in a 1 on 1.

If Dublin had scored that early goal, the game could have got very messy for Kerry.

dublin7

Quote from: moysider on August 28, 2016, 11:28:38 PM
Dublin won today without scoring a goal. McMahon butchered a chance when he should have put McMan. in for a gimmie. It took great tackling to keep out Brogan also in a 1 on 1.

If Dublin had scored that early goal, the game could have got very messy for Kerry.

I can't understand how people cN say Mayo are better than Kerry. Kerry might be an aging side but how many of the mayo forwards would make the Kerry side. DOC  is the only nailed on. Bottom line is Mayo have lacked the top class forwards to win an all Ireland and nothing they have shown this year changes that fact

Captain Obvious

Quote from: thewobbler on August 28, 2016, 11:23:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 28, 2016, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 28, 2016, 10:56:24 PM
My tuppence is that Mayo are a better team than Kerry, so if they bring the same intensity to it as the kingdom did today, then it'll be close enough.
Better based on what? Going on this years form this Mayo team wouldnt have beaten that Kerry team.

Unlike Kerry though, Mayo have actually beaten a top class team this season.

Mayo have a core of 8-10 top class players either in or very close to their prime. Kerry have 2 or 3 top class players, 2-3 former top class, and the rest are inconsistent or not good enough.

While the Kingdom might be cute hoors who get unbelievable slices of luck (like cluxton's melt today), Mayo are just a superior side.
Tyrone a top class side? Maybe in time they will be but certainly not this year Tyrone in truth didn't improve much from last year. This year alone Kerry were the second best team in the league which included a win in MacHale park, Mayo avoided relegation on scoring difference. Kerry won a provincial title Mayo did not and Kerry were more convincing in their victory against Tipperary than Mayo was and Mayo needed a few slices of luck to finally put Tipperary away.

moysider

Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:17:23 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2016, 11:13:54 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2016, 11:07:14 PM
Sure we'll go up for then look anyway.
Paul Flynn must be carrying an injury, not the same player of a few years ago.

On Kerry, had to smile at Spillanes comment of Kerry dying with their boots on....5 points and 3 points up at different stages. We know the narrative that we'd get if Mayo did that and lost.... :-X

Mayo can match Dublin in most areas. If they get 2-3 goals they can win. It's hard to credit it based on their form so far. But they are the team most likely to beat Dublin
That's a fair analysis. Dublin bit like medusa at the minute...Brogan/Flynn have off days like today....Kevin Mc/Rock have stormers and vice versa.
Keegan/Connolly will cancel each other out as usual...

Yer wan with the snakes on her head?

That's it so.

Tommy Jo Perseus has to start instead of Andy. All Mayo players will carry mirrors so that they don't look at Dublin players directly and turn to stone like we usually do in finals.

Best tactic so far. Can anybody come up with a better one?!

muppet

We need a ref that has to drive home to his house in Kiltane or Burrishoole or somewhere like that.
MWWSI 2017

moysider

Quote from: muppet on August 29, 2016, 12:11:17 AM
We need a ref that has to drive home to his house in Kiltane or Burrishoole or somewhere like that.

Marty Duffy does a bit of work in Mayo. But he'd screw us more than the Meath lads love too.
Marty is away injured this year anyway.
Padraig Hughes could get the gig but he would probably be a homer as well when the pressure comes on. Then there's McQuillan? It's lose, lose as regards the refs anyway.