Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[Main Street]

Some people with short memories, was there not a Russian sub at their geopolitical games of the coast of Cork last year?

Regardless of all the other points, the Russian State was not responsible for the HSE ransomware attack despite where it is believed to have originated from based upon the evidence.

Stating otherwise is false and Ireland has a greater threat from cyber crime gangs than rogue nations hacking us for geopolitical reasons. We are just not that important in the grand scheme of things.

The Conti and Trickbot groups are the acknowledged gangs who hacked into HSE.
From a Wired article
Last month UK and USA intell service outed and sanctioned 7 named persons and  "the UK and US are now explicitly calling out links between Conti and Trickbot and Russia's intelligence services"

Those hacking gangs have overtly  pledged allegiance to the Russian state at/since the time of full scale invasion of Ukraine.

"Highly Likely"  is good enough for me to claim that there are well developed links between the cyber criminals and Russian intelligence. Inflicting such mayhem around Europe or supporting in some form or another from a distance is part and parcel of the Kremlin modus operandi.

[thebigfella]

Some people with short memories, was there not a Russian sub at their geopolitical games of the coast of Cork last year?

Regardless of all the other points, the Russian State was not responsible for the HSE ransomware attack despite where it is believed to have originated from based upon the evidence.

Stating otherwise is false and Ireland has a greater threat from cyber crime gangs than rogue nations hacking us for geopolitical reasons. We are just not that important in the grand scheme of things.

The Conti and Trickbot groups are the acknowledged gangs who hacked into HSE.
From a Wired article
Last month UK and USA intell service outed and sanctioned 7 named persons and  "the UK and US are now explicitly calling out links between Conti and Trickbot and Russia's intelligence services"

Those hacking gangs have overtly  pledged allegiance to the Russian state at/since the time of full scale invasion of Ukraine.

"Highly Likely"  is good enough for me to claim that there are well developed links between the cyber criminals and Russian intelligence. Inflicting such mayhem around Europe or supporting in some form or another from a distance is part and parcel of the Kremlin modus operandi.

I never disputed that the Russia uses these cyber gangs for their own means?

In fact I clearly stated cyber gangs are tolerated and some are even hired on behalf of the state. We know there are links between these groups and nation states (and have been proven to be the case in certain attacks).

This is not the movies and these are not a few lads in bedrooms. These are large criminal enterprises with lots of resources and very sophisticated supply chains. It's a very lucrative business and what is reported is only the tip of the iceberg.

Still regardless of these links between the criminals and Russian intelligence, there is no creditable evidence that the HSE attack was a Russian state sanctioned attack. It followed a similar pattern to previous Ransomware attacks by this group and stating that neutral Ireland is under attack from Russia is just hyperbole.

The simple fact is Ireland (and many countries) are constantly at risk of attacks from cyber criminals, and the likelihood of those attacks are much greater than a nation state attack.

[Main Street]

Some people with short memories, was there not a Russian sub at their geopolitical games of the coast of Cork last year?

Regardless of all the other points, the Russian State was not responsible for the HSE ransomware attack despite where it is believed to have originated from based upon the evidence.

Stating otherwise is false and Ireland has a greater threat from cyber crime gangs than rogue nations hacking us for geopolitical reasons. We are just not that important in the grand scheme of things.

The Conti and Trickbot groups are the acknowledged gangs who hacked into HSE.
From a Wired article
Last month UK and USA intell service outed and sanctioned 7 named persons and  "the UK and US are now explicitly calling out links between Conti and Trickbot and Russia's intelligence services"

Those hacking gangs have overtly  pledged allegiance to the Russian state at/since the time of full scale invasion of Ukraine.

"Highly Likely"  is good enough for me to claim that there are well developed links between the cyber criminals and Russian intelligence. Inflicting such mayhem around Europe or supporting in some form or another from a distance is part and parcel of the Kremlin modus operandi.

I never disputed that the Russia uses these cyber gangs for their own means?

In fact I clearly stated cyber gangs are tolerated and some are even hired on behalf of the state. We know there are links between these groups and nation states (and have been proven to be the case in certain attacks).

This is not the movies and these are not a few lads in bedrooms. These are large criminal enterprises with lots of resources and very sophisticated supply chains. It's a very lucrative business and what is reported is only the tip of the iceberg.

Still regardless of these links between the criminals and Russian intelligence, there is no creditable evidence that the HSE attack was a Russian state sanctioned attack. It followed a similar pattern to previous Ransomware attacks by this group and stating that neutral Ireland is under attack from Russia is just hyperbole.

The simple fact is Ireland (and many countries) are constantly at risk of attacks from cyber criminals, and the likelihood of those attacks are much greater than a nation state attack.

Who claimed you did dispute that Russia uses these cyber gangs for their own purposes?
In my and most others opinion, being complicit with the Russian based cyber gangs to reap havoc in Europe carries the same weight of guilt as the doer of the dastardly deeds.

[RadioGAAGAA]

Who claimed you did dispute that Russia uses these cyber gangs for their own purposes?
In my and most others opinion, being complicit with the Russian based cyber gangs to reap havoc in Europe carries the same weight of guilt as the doer of the dastardly deeds.

So if you hire a builder to put up an extension, your responsible for what the same builder does for the fella down the road?

[Lubo Moravcik]

Since some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

[Milltown Row2]

This will end up with a few retaliatory explosions in Russian cities. More than two years of war and no end in sight

[Itchy]

Since some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

There is some difference, one of the regimes is supported and funded by Western countries, many of whom are our allies. The other is despised by these same countries. Another difference is that media in the West attempts to give balance/equivalence to Israel v Palestine but makes no attempt to do the same in Russia v Ukraine.

[Lubo Moravcik]

Since some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

There is some difference, one of the regimes is supported and funded by Western countries, many of whom are our allies. The other is despised by these same countries. Another difference is that media in the West attempts to give balance/equivalence to Israel v Palestine but makes no attempt to do the same in Russia v Ukraine.

Well first of all, the Ukrainian government isn't a regime, it's the democratically elected government of Ukraine. I suppose Israel isn't technically a 'regime' either but it's most definitely blood-soaked and fascist in nature. 

It is right that Ukraine is supported by other countries in their fight against Russian aggression. By the way the civilian slaughter in Ukraine would be many, many times greater if it wasn't for western supply of air defences to shoot down Russian missiles and Iranian drones.

Also, support given to Ukraine doesn't alter the nature of Russia's deliberate and indiscriminate attacks on civilians. See Syria, Georgia and Chechnya also. Just like Israel in Gaza, deliberate murder.

The media doesn't attempt to make a balance/equivalence between Ukraine and Russia because there is none.

I agree with you that it's unfair and hypocritical to equate Palestine with Israel in their fight against aggression. I agree with you it's shameful that western countries supply Israel with weapons and that Israel hasn't been sanctioned and kicked out of all sporting and international events (like SA was back in the day).

[Itchy]

Since some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

There is some difference, one of the regimes is supported and funded by Western countries, many of whom are our allies. The other is despised by these same countries. Another difference is that media in the West attempts to give balance/equivalence to Israel v Palestine but makes no attempt to do the same in Russia v Ukraine.

Well first of all, the Ukrainian government isn't a regime, it's the democratically elected government of Ukraine. I suppose Israel isn't technically a 'regime' either but it's most definitely blood-soaked and fascist in nature. 

It is right that Ukraine is supported by other countries in their fight against Russian aggression. By the way the civilian slaughter in Ukraine would be many, many times greater if it wasn't for western supply of air defences to shoot down Russian missiles and Iranian drones.

Also, support given to Ukraine doesn't alter the nature of Russia's deliberate and indiscriminate attacks on civilians. See Syria, Georgia and Chechnya also. Just like Israel in Gaza, deliberate murder.

The media doesn't attempt to make a balance/equivalence between Ukraine and Russia because there is none.

I agree with you that it's unfair and hypocritical to equate Palestine with Israel in their fight against aggression. I agree with you it's shameful that western countries supply Israel with weapons and that Israel hasn't been sanctioned and kicked out of all sporting and international events (like SA was back in the day).

You misread my post. Regime 1 = Israel, Regime 2 = Russia.

[Lubo Moravcik]

Since some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

There is some difference, one of the regimes is supported and funded by Western countries, many of whom are our allies. The other is despised by these same countries. Another difference is that media in the West attempts to give balance/equivalence to Israel v Palestine but makes no attempt to do the same in Russia v Ukraine.

Well first of all, the Ukrainian government isn't a regime, it's the democratically elected government of Ukraine. I suppose Israel isn't technically a 'regime' either but it's most definitely blood-soaked and fascist in nature. 

It is right that Ukraine is supported by other countries in their fight against Russian aggression. By the way the civilian slaughter in Ukraine would be many, many times greater if it wasn't for western supply of air defences to shoot down Russian missiles and Iranian drones.

Also, support given to Ukraine doesn't alter the nature of Russia's deliberate and indiscriminate attacks on civilians. See Syria, Georgia and Chechnya also. Just like Israel in Gaza, deliberate murder.

The media doesn't attempt to make a balance/equivalence between Ukraine and Russia because there is none.

I agree with you that it's unfair and hypocritical to equate Palestine with Israel in their fight against aggression. I agree with you it's shameful that western countries supply Israel with weapons and that Israel hasn't been sanctioned and kicked out of all sporting and international events (like SA was back in the day).

You misread my post. Regime 1 = Israel, Regime 2 = Russia.

Ah, yes I took it up wrong, I thought you were referencing Ukraine and Russia.

[Main Street]

 

This will end up with a few retaliatory explosions in Russian cities. More than two years of war and no end in sight

That's a very questionable statement, as in 'both sides do crap'. The AFU, in the main, strike at military logistic targets inside Russia as well as their vital fuel industrial economy.
Killing Russian civilians  for the sake of a retaliation would be regarded as a waste of a good AFU bomb.

[Milltown Row2]

Well let's see, tactics over the years with various conflicts or wars have used indiscriminate bombs to create fear..

Doesn't mean it will impact change from the aggressors, in fact might have the opposite

[Lubo Moravcik]

Well let's see, tactics over the years with various conflicts or wars have used indiscriminate bombs to create fear..

Doesn't mean it will impact change from the aggressors, in fact might have the opposite

You don't need to wait and see, Russia has been hitting civilians targets intentionally for over 2 years now. Including double tap strikes to kill first responders and those coming to help the wounded.

Ukraine hasn't adopted their 'strategy' and they aren't going to. In fact, every time Ukraine hits a high value Russian military target such as an airfield or ship watch out for the next shopping mall or marketplace packed with civilians to get obliterated. They think they can break the will of the Ukrainian civilian population, they are wrong.

[Cyril Farrell fan]

They think they can break the will of the Ukrainian civilian population, they are wrong.

I hope you are right.
China are happy to keep the Russian murder machine well stocked up though. 

[Main Street]

Well let's see, tactics over the years with various conflicts or wars have used indiscriminate bombs to create fear..

Doesn't mean it will impact change from the aggressors, in fact might have the opposite

You don't need to wait and see, Russia has been hitting civilians targets intentionally for over 2 years now. Including double tap strikes to kill first responders and those coming to help the wounded.

Ukraine hasn't adopted their 'strategy' and they aren't going to. In fact, every time Ukraine hits a high value Russian military target such as an airfield or ship watch out for the next shopping mall or marketplace packed with civilians to get obliterated. They think they can break the will of the Ukrainian civilian population, they are wrong.

I seriously doubt that MR2 has been following the war news from Ukraine, the weak justification offered for his statement that something may change in the future would suggest so.

On hitting military targets deep inside Russia, this recent hit takes the biscuit with aplomb, A drone traveled (a new world record) 1,800km "attacking the Voronezh M long-range ballistic missile target detection radar station located in the city of Orsk on 26 May"
This radar station offered some level of protection for a vast area of land  (thousands of kms) which includes Crimea.This station can detect ATTACKMS and for example f16 fighter planes (yet to arrive) but not Stormshadow missiles or drones.
This very effective softening up strategy by the AFU of hitting active  and passive Russian  defense systems continues unabated.
The 2 radar complexes that were hit, approx value $1bn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6masppIXd1w&t=54s