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gerrykeegan

Played today as a visitor in a pub society. 45 points! Didn't even win the visitors prize. Some f**ker had 48 points. This should proably be in the "You know what grinds my gears thread"
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Quote from: gerrykeegan on August 30, 2008, 06:30:40 PM
Played today as a visitor in a pub society. 45 points! Didn't even win the visitors prize. Some f**ker had 48 points. This should proably be in the "You know what grinds my gears thread"

So you were caught out by a bigger bandit than yourself?  :D

gerrykeegan

not a bandit at all. Full member of a course, enter all cards good or bad, just hit an unbelievable purple patch, hit 79 perfect shots and one bad one.
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Quote from: gerrykeegan on August 31, 2008, 11:05:16 AM
not a bandit at all. Full member of a course, enter all cards good or bad, just hit an unbelievable purple patch, hit 79 perfect shots and one bad one.
Are you sure that the guy who had 48 points is able to count?.

gerrykeegan

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DrinkingHarp

Golf secret not all in the wrists 


The perfect golf stroke

After decades of research, the world may be closer to the perfect golf swing.

University of Surrey engineer Robin Sharp has found the key is not in using full power from the start, but by building up to it quickly.

Surprisingly, the wrists don't play a critical role in the swing's outcome, according to the new model.

The analysis also shows that while bigger golfers might hit further, it's not by much.

Any golfer will tell you that the idea of swinging harder to hit farther is not as straightforward as it might seem; the new results indicate that how - and when - the power develops is the key to distance.

Tricky balance

Prof Sharp's work is based on a little-used model in which a golfer uses three points of rotation: the shoulders relative to the spine, the arms relative to the shoulders and the wrists relative to the arms.

Conventional wisdom has proven that the timing of these rotations relative to one another is the key to a long drive. However the work, reported in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society, is the first to optimise those timings and how the power of a swing is developed as they play out.

Prior models assumed one of two things: that the torque - the power in rotation - was applied at its maximum from the backswing, or that it ramped up throughout the swing, reaching its maximum at the point of impact.   Control of the arms and not the wrists appears to be the priority

Robin Sharp

Prof Sharp used a computer model first to fit to the swing styles of three professionals whose swings were measured with high-speed photography in 1968: Bernard Hunt, Geoffrey Hunt and Guy Wolstenholme.

The model showed that the club-head speed, and thus drive distance, of these professionals could have been improved by increasing the torque quickly to the maximum value and maintaining it throughout the rest of the swing.

It's a delicate balance, however, and Sunday duffers may find it hard to implement Prof Sharp's prescription.

"Generating too much arm speed too soon causes an early release, with the club-head reaching its maximum speed before it arrives at the ball," he says.

The key, Prof Sharp says, is timing which torques are applied when. And contrary to the old saying, it's not all in the wrists.

"In the expert swings studied, control of the arms and not the wrists appears to be the priority.

"The optimal strategy consists of hitting first with the shoulders while holding back with arms and wrists and, after some delay, hitting through with the arms. At release, the wrists should hit through."

The model also shows that height is not much of an advantage in a long-distance swing.

"A 21 per cent bigger player can be expected to have just a 10 per cent advantage in club-head speed," Prof Sharp said, which he says accounts for the fact that "good little ones are often not so far behind good big ones."

Put into practice 
It doesn't require being a big golfer to be a good golfer

Another person who is familiar with the swings of professional golfers is Simon Wickes, operations manager and biomechanics consultant for the Human Performance facilities at QinetiQ.

In the facility's Biomechanics lab, visitors don a tight-fitting suit covered with reflectors that are tracked by 12 infrared-sensing cameras.

By tracking the independent motions of all the limbs and the club itself, the team can analyse in detail any number of motions, including golf swings, and the lab has been visited by professionals Nick Faldo and Justin Rose.

"We're not golf pros," Mr Wickes explained, "we just show them where we think the problems are occurring."

"What we were seeing with Justin Rose was the club-head and the arms leading the body, rather than the shoulders leading the arms," Mr Wickes said.

It turns out that this reporter too had a problem of stiffness that makes the club lead the body.

"It's something we've seen with other amateurs," Mr Wickes said after an analysis of my swing. "There's this feeling of trying to keep everything in alignment and by doing that you stiffen up because you don't want to have the variability you get if you loosen up your grip and loosen joints."

Useful though it is to know Prof Sharp's result, the perfect swing is not just a matter of the mechanics.





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the golf world cup starts tomorrow. Scotland the defending champions . Who do ye fancy to win it lads ?
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Teams listed below in order of favouritism with the bookies.  A lot of big names dont seem to be too bothered with this competition e.g. Harrington and the US team! 

Sweden (Stenson/Karlsson)
England (Poulter/R Fisher)
Denmark (S Hansen/A Hansen)
Ireland (McDowell/McGinley)
USA (Curtis/Snedeker)
South Africa (Sabbatini/Sterne)
Spain (Jimenez/Larrazabal)
Germany (Kaymer/Cejka)
Thailand (Marksaeng/Jaidee)
India (JM Singh/Randhawa)
Scotland (Forsyth/Montgomerie)
Japan (Imada/Taniguchi)
France (Havret/Bourdy)
Australia (R Green/B Jones)
Italy (E Molinari/F Molinari)
China (Liang/Zhang)
Wales (Dredge/Johnson)
Chinese Taipei (WT Lin/WT Lu)
New Zealand (Brown/Smail)
Korea (Kim/Bae)
Chile (Aguilar/Tullo)
Finland (Korhonen/Kakko)
Phillipines (Pucay/Que)
Canada (Heffernan/DeLaet)
Portugal (Cruz/Santos)
Mexico (De Leon/Serna)
Guatemala (Acuna/Villavicencio)
Venezuela (Martinez/Sanz)

corn02

That Swedish pairing is very, veyr strong and the Danish side ain't too bad either. This is not an overly important competition and an outsider usually wins. I am sure we would all love the Spanish side to win if the Irish are not.

Value bets:
India and USA.

Throw ball

Have never paid much attention to the general discussion board but as the season is quiet was wondering did any of you enter the Fantasy Race to Dubai via the European Tour Website? Could do with the new clubs up for grabs as the handicap is going up instead of down. Also have any of you any idea of good courses with reasonable green fees in Ulster or Leinster. Hope to try one or two next year? Cheers.

stephenite

Quote from: corn02 on November 26, 2008, 02:49:57 PM
That Swedish pairing is very, veyr strong and the Danish side ain't too bad either. This is not an overly important competition and an outsider usually wins. I am sure we would all love the Spanish side to win if the Irish are not.

Value bets:
India and USA.

I fancy Germany, and the English aren't a bad side either

DrinkingHarp

Maybe I should post this in the dumb people thread........

But why is the South African Open part of the European Tour?

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Don't forget the Indonesian Open...

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