China Coronavirus

[trueblue1234]

Of course you are not selfish because the definition of selfish is now limited to people who do not choose to be vaccinated.

Housing crisis.  No the 80% of the population who are not selfish can do nothing about that because the definition does not stretch beyond vaccination.

#virtuesignallingtwats

You were the one mentioned selfish. But your points are falling apart. People can be selfish for many reasons.

[Milltown Row2]

What he said (what you claim he said) is widely at odds with the most recently available official government data.

Of course there is a lag in data getting published so subsequent publications might show the vast majority are indeed unvaccinated but we can wait for that and revisit in a few weeks.  It will take a hell of a shift all the same.

Did you catch a name by the way?  I am not finding much by way of reference to 'the Medical Federation UK' let alone who it's head is.

Or even what time he was on as I am genuinely interested to hear what he said so can grab off the catch up.

Taylor, I think and was on radio 5 live at about 8.45am today, I'm sure that is on catch up, just after he finished someone came on and told the BBC to be fairer in their news covering and stop going along the government line sort of thing...

Thanks.

Would you mind going back and listening to 5 Live and perhaps revising what you posted?  Both in terms of who was talking and what was said.

On the positive sounds like you were concentrating on the road more than the radio.

Safety first 😜

No I'll take your informed word on it  ...

I'm actually not bothered tbh, my family are double jabbed my wife and I have taken the flu jab last week and we've yet to get Covid in our families, we all work while my daughters also work attended lectures and go to school..

[Hectic]

Here only having a bit of craic with you lad.  Glad you are all in a good place, that is the main thing.

[Hectic]

Of course you are not selfish because the definition of selfish is now limited to people who do not choose to be vaccinated.

Housing crisis.  No the 80% of the population who are not selfish can do nothing about that because the definition does not stretch beyond vaccination.

#virtuesignallingtwats

You were the one mentioned selfish. But your points are falling apart. People can be selfish for many reasons.

Na, was not me that patented selfish in relation to vaccination.

And points all falling apart.  Hate when official data don't cut it 👍

But sure I'll take your word on that. 

[trueblue1234]

Of course you are not selfish because the definition of selfish is now limited to people who do not choose to be vaccinated.

Housing crisis.  No the 80% of the population who are not selfish can do nothing about that because the definition does not stretch beyond vaccination.

#virtuesignallingtwats

You were the one mentioned selfish. But your points are falling apart. People can be selfish for many reasons.

Na, was not me that patented selfish in relation to vaccination.

And points all falling apart.  Hate when official data don't cut it 👍

But sure I'll take your word on that.

Let's not move the goal posts again. Are people with contraindications better served by reducing the rate of people in hospital with Covid or not? It was you that brought them up.

[Hectic]

Of course you are not selfish because the definition of selfish is now limited to people who do not choose to be vaccinated.

Housing crisis.  No the 80% of the population who are not selfish can do nothing about that because the definition does not stretch beyond vaccination.

#virtuesignallingtwats

You were the one mentioned selfish. But your points are falling apart. People can be selfish for many reasons.

Na, was not me that patented selfish in relation to vaccination.

And points all falling apart.  Hate when official data don't cut it 👍

But sure I'll take your word on that.

Let's not move the goal posts again. Are people with contraindications better served by reducing the rate of people in hospital with Covid or not? It was you that brought them up.

Not moving the goalposts.

If I remember correct I brought up contraindications after someone promoted benefit of Covid passports on basis if everyone in a venue was vaccinated then even in event of a super spreading event it would not be so bad as likelihood of anyone present needing hospital treatment would be low.

Or something to that effect.

However, given we know vaccination does not stop spread then it does not stop one of those in the venue coming into contact with a contraindication and passing the virus to them.

But I guess they could not be called selfish as they have been vaccinated in a selfless act for the greater good.

And of course selfish is much older that my posts when it comes to a collective term for those who don't choose to be vaccinated. Generally the choice of the morning wet blanket crew.

But forgive me for not being more detailed earlier.  I have been away from GAA Board for a long time so I am not terribly au fait with the speed of uptake of individual contributors.

[Gmac]

Fda now telling us you can use whatever booster you want , you pick the cocktail you want, no thanks.

[trueblue1234]

Of course you are not selfish because the definition of selfish is now limited to people who do not choose to be vaccinated.

Housing crisis.  No the 80% of the population who are not selfish can do nothing about that because the definition does not stretch beyond vaccination.

#virtuesignallingtwats

You were the one mentioned selfish. But your points are falling apart. People can be selfish for many reasons.

Na, was not me that patented selfish in relation to vaccination.

And points all falling apart.  Hate when official data don't cut it 👍

But sure I'll take your word on that.

Let's not move the goal posts again. Are people with contraindications better served by reducing the rate of people in hospital with Covid or not? It was you that brought them up.

Not moving the goalposts.

If I remember correct I brought up contraindications after someone promoted benefit of Covid passports on basis if everyone in a venue was vaccinated then even in event of a super spreading event it would not be so bad as likelihood of anyone present needing hospital treatment would be low.

Or something to that effect.

However, given we know vaccination does not stop spread then it does not stop one of those in the venue coming into contact with a contraindication and passing the virus to them.

But I guess they could not be called selfish as they have been vaccinated in a selfless act for the greater good.

And of course selfish is much older that my posts when it comes to a collective term for those who don't choose to be vaccinated. Generally the choice of the morning wet blanket crew.

But forgive me for not being more detailed earlier.  I have been away from GAA Board for a long time so I am not terribly au fait with the speed of uptake of individual contributors.

Your grasping. Being vaccinated helps people with contraindications by reducing the impact on the nhs. That is why a pub full of vaccinated people are better that a pub full of unvaccinated. There's no possible way of ensuring everyone with contraindications doesn't come into contact with Covid by either vaccinated or unvaccinated unless you have another lock down or shield. So it's a straw man argument. But you can affect the impact on the nhs if you do contract it.

You seem very annoyed by the term selfish for the unvaccinated. It's only people's opinion, as you say, the term selfish can be used for plenty of people not Covid related as well.

[sid waddell]

What he said (what you claim he said) is widely at odds with the most recently available official government data.

Of course there is a lag in data getting published so subsequent publications might show the vast majority are indeed unvaccinated but we can wait for that and revisit in a few weeks.  It will take a hell of a shift all the same.

Did you catch a name by the way?  I am not finding much by way of reference to 'the Medical Federation UK' let alone who it's head is.

Or even what time he was on as I am genuinely interested to hear what he said so can grab off the catch up.

Any chance you could explain what's happening in Romania, buddy? Here are their figures for you again.

Population 19.29 million
Vaccinated: 29.5%

Covid cases yesterday: 18,863
Covid deaths yesterday: 561 (five hundred and sixty-one)

Would you agree that these figures, when compared against the currently miniscule death figures in widely vaccinated countries like Ireland are a very clear demonstration of the benefits of vaccines and the dangers of widespread non-vaccination?

Sid I think you are mistaking me for someone who is anti vaccination.

Yis all say that.

Any chance you might explain the figures?

Any chance you would stop trying to shape everything around your world view?

Explanation is maybe quite simple i.e. fewer at risk vaccinated.

But could really do with some more info before drawing inferences.

Mortality by vaccination status and age group a good start.

Certainly does nothing to substantiate calls by sickos to vaccinate children and healthy young adults to protect them or pacify their fears.

So you admit vaccination works.

And then you turn around and call the concept of vaccinating children, which we do for a whole range of illnesses, "sick".

You're obviously a deep thinker. 

[bennydorano]

https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1450895353222402060?t=Jr-pEMFz51aluO8wyKzHfA&s=19

Interesting info from Ed Conway of Sky about context of some current data.

[Eire90]

The vaccine gives people a false sense of protection leading to them gallivanting all over the place

[Eire90]

NewstalkFM
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Luke O'Neill: More 'mixing, mingling and socialising' is causing high COVID-19 infection rates, despite vaccine uptake.
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[Jeepers Creepers]

The vaccine gives people a false sense of protection leading to them gallivanting all over the place

Exactly. If I remember correctly even if vaccinated it was advised to socially distance were possible and wear and mask when in crowded place regardless of what the UK govt said. All went clean out the window.

[Taylor]

The vaccine gives people a false sense of protection leading to them gallivanting all over the place

Exactly. If I remember correctly even if vaccinated it was advised to socially distance were possible and wear and mask when in crowded place regardless of what the UK govt said. All went clean out the window.

At the moment England is the same way as it was pre pandemic - business as usual.

Very few wear masks - restaurants/bars/nightclubs are all back to normal - people going buck mental in them

Its actually quite surreal when you see what the rest of the UK & Ireland are doing

[BennyCake]

The vaccine gives people a false sense of protection leading to them gallivanting all over the place

100% correct.