The DUP thread

Started by armaghniac, December 31, 2022, 05:22:31 PM

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JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on February 01, 2024, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on February 01, 2024, 10:01:59 AMAt what point does SF/SDLP pull the plug until a border poll is called  8)

Yes, some of the stuff that CHH and other politicians came out with yesterday flew under the radar and was eye watering in its lack of understanding of the GFA.

Buttering up the DUP, but we'd need to be careful they don't slip some shít under the radar impacting the calling of a border poll

The was a Labour MP interviewed yesterday and she obviously wasn't aware of the UK Governments supposed position in the event of a border poll either.



Well Keir Starmer doesn't know either as he has already said he will be campaigning pro-union during any campaign instead of the supposed neutrality

trailer

Quote from: Rois on February 01, 2024, 12:12:46 PMThe Corporation Tax case was made before Brexit, and it did make economic sense back then.  Many of my colleagues were involved in the investigative groundwork, and certainly the community of chartered accountants (of which I'm a member) was majority in favour of tax powers devolving here.  Not sure how much things will have changed by now. 

I'd be careful in which powers to devolve. Our politicians are largely incompetent. We already pay 2 million a year for a non existent flight to NYC. We all remember RHI.
I think a cut in corporation tax to make it attractive to companies to invest would be fine, but to allow them to make decisions with income tax, inheritance tax, stamp duty definitely No.

square_ball

Quote from: red hander on February 01, 2024, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on February 01, 2024, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on February 01, 2024, 10:01:59 AMAt what point does SF/SDLP pull the plug until a border poll is called  8)

Yes, some of the stuff that CHH and other politicians came out with yesterday flew under the radar and was eye watering in its lack of understanding of the GFA.

Buttering up the DUP, but we'd need to be careful they don't slip some shít under the radar impacting the calling of a border poll

The was a Labour MP interviewed yesterday and she obviously wasn't aware of the UK Governments supposed position in the event of a border poll either.



Saw that on Sky. She's obviously as thick as pigshit, which is all that charlatan Starmer wants in his party, but that odious cow Burley had no idea about what she was on about either and completely lacking in research in her questions. She has a history of ill-researched shit stirring.

Saw it too and what I took from it was like 99% of MPs in the UK she a) didn't have the first clue about anything to do with politics in the North and b) didn't give a shit about it either.

Milltown Row2

When is she going to get the pay rise? Hearing teachers may get 8.5% any chance that will be back dated?  ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

red hander

Apparently, oul whiskey nose himself is backing the 'Betrayal Deal'. Bin Boy will be going even more apeshit. Need to restock the popcorn supplies.

Sportacus

Hearing the MLAs voices on the radio every day now is only bringing back bad memories for me.  I couldn't think of half a dozen who I'd rate as serious operators.
It was funny watching aul Willie Irvine stopping the car outside the gates of the hotel the other night to speak to the protestors. Like most local politicians he's been stealing a living for years spoofing away and chairing the agriculture committee at one stage I think.  He couldn't get the window up quick enough when the heat came on.

The quick win will be a public sector pay rise, and there'll be plenty of photo shoots if they want it portraying stability, which is no bad thing if it brings in some jobs.
But not a ward nor small school will they have the balls to shut, so don't be expecting big change.


johnnycool

Big Gavin Robinson denying the existence of an All Island economy...

Someone better not tell him or those big Protestant farmers where those Lakeland Dairies lorries loaded with their milk every morning goes!

They must live in total denial.


red hander

Do him better to deny the existence of pies

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 04:32:41 PMBig Gavin Robinson denying the existence of an All Island economy...

Someone better not tell him or those big Protestant farmers where those Lakeland Dairies lorries loaded with their milk every morning goes!

They must live in total denial.



He doesn't. But the muppets that give him his vote does so he plays that game as well. Do you think many DUP voters in East Belfast know anything about anything related to farming never mind understanding of milk chains?

marty34

Quote from: NAG1 on February 01, 2024, 08:49:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2024, 08:38:11 AMTrust me there will be no burning of cars, this mob will do nothing, they stand in their own areas and make their own locals days a misery

I see they blaming Nationalists/ Republicans for circulating this list of roads to be blocked.
Will be interesting to see if anything materialises.

Where's this list at?

marty34

Quote from: TabClear on February 01, 2024, 11:55:03 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on February 01, 2024, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 01, 2024, 10:37:23 AMOne thing that maybe has flown under the radar is the possible reduction in Corporation tax here. Looking forward to that for sure. Would be a massive boost to business and the local economy if they can pull it off. Be interesting to see if we have the political ability to get that done.


I read that too.
I also read that as a reduction in corporation tax would mean a reduction in money paid to the British Exchequer from NI, the block grant would then also be reduced accordingly.
So it could be a case of giving on one hand and taking on the other with no net gain....and possibly even a net loss to NI Ltd.

And absolutely the right approach. It means our politicians will actually have to do what they are paid to do, i.e. do a cost benefit analysis and determine if the reduction in tax rate will have a net positive outcome, whether through increased employment or higher taxable profits as more companies relocate. Unfortunately an approach like that needs a stable political base and competent ministers, something I think we are sadly lacking.  It should not be a case of "cut tax for the sake of it and sure Whitehall will bail us out to make sure we are no worse off." This begging bowl approach has to stop.

I think this episode over the last few years has woken up a lot of Tories as to what a pain in the arse NI is to UK. And all thanks to the DUP.  ;D  ;D

The issue will be we'll have to pay for water and perscription charges etc.

There'll be some uproar over that.

All well and good saying politicians have to make mature decisions but when they have to make these type of decisions, there'll be some whinging and complaining.

yellowcard

Donaldson seems to have weathered the storm and has done a reasonable job getting his deal out there. The extreme hardliners will never get a deal that satisfies them so things will move on now but I have my doubts over how well Stormont will ultimately work. There have been a lot of damaged relationships between the parties since Brexit began as the loyalist moon howlers attempt to obstruct any semblance of progression. 

Its been a whirlwind week for Unionist politics overall but I still can't get my head around the fact that a DUP member wore a wire into a meeting connected to a UVF linked agitator who then put it into the public domain. Espionage without any shame. It's a story that Nolan would normally salivate over if you replaced the characters involved in it. A sure fire way to stoke up the outrage and boast about ratings but yet he has barely mentioned it all week on loyalist radio.

AustinPowers

Quote from: marty34 on February 01, 2024, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: TabClear on February 01, 2024, 11:55:03 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on February 01, 2024, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 01, 2024, 10:37:23 AMOne thing that maybe has flown under the radar is the possible reduction in Corporation tax here. Looking forward to that for sure. Would be a massive boost to business and the local economy if they can pull it off. Be interesting to see if we have the political ability to get that done.


I read that too.
I also read that as a reduction in corporation tax would mean a reduction in money paid to the British Exchequer from NI, the block grant would then also be reduced accordingly.
So it could be a case of giving on one hand and taking on the other with no net gain....and possibly even a net loss to NI Ltd.

And absolutely the right approach. It means our politicians will actually have to do what they are paid to do, i.e. do a cost benefit analysis and determine if the reduction in tax rate will have a net positive outcome, whether through increased employment or higher taxable profits as more companies relocate. Unfortunately an approach like that needs a stable political base and competent ministers, something I think we are sadly lacking.  It should not be a case of "cut tax for the sake of it and sure Whitehall will bail us out to make sure we are no worse off." This begging bowl approach has to stop.

I think this episode over the last few years has woken up a lot of Tories as to what a pain in the arse NI is to UK. And all thanks to the DUP.  ;D  ;D

The issue will be we'll have to pay for water and perscription charges etc.

There'll be some uproar over that.

All well and good saying politicians have to make mature decisions but when they have to make these type of decisions, there'll be some whinging and complaining.

As  there should be.

red hander

Bin boy giving a speech to the mutants in the Village of the Damned tonight. Moygashel needs a new idiot after the  old one died from toxic shock syndrome when he had a wash. Agent 167 is perfectly qualified.