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Il Bomber Destro

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The Stardust Fire
« on: Today at 08:19:12 AM »
I watched the Stardust Fire documentary during the week. Tough viewing and it's incredible the families have still not got any justice. It's incredible how little national coverage their injustice gets.

Once again, the main establishment parties have very murky dealings here. I see the FG justice minister this week quashed any hope of the families getting their justice. FF's role in this is rotten to the core as there are close links to the Butterly family and FF.

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #1 on: Today at 08:35:54 AM »
So this isn’t really about the families Bomber, is it ?
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #2 on: Today at 08:36:46 AM »
Same everywhere.Ordinary people don't matter as far as the political elite are concerned.The Grenfell tower victims won't get justice either from the UK Govt.

My vivid memory up here about Stardust was Ian Paisley openly expressing heartfelt sympathy to the families.

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #3 on: Today at 08:49:13 AM »
I watched the Stardust Fire documentary during the week. Tough viewing and it's incredible the families have still not got any justice. It's incredible how little national coverage their injustice gets.

Once again, the main establishment parties have very murky dealings here. I see the FG justice minister this week quashed any hope of the families getting their justice. FF's role in this is rotten to the core as there are close links to the Butterly family and FF.
It is desperate.
The same goes for those killed in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings and those who died in the Whiddy Island explosion.

You could also add the attitude to Northern nationalists over the lifetime of the State.
You would expect better.
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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #4 on: Today at 09:07:08 AM »
So this isn’t really about the families Bomber, is it ?

It never is.

Same as those going on about Paul Quinn, Maria Cahill, Gerry McCabe and the likes

Point scoring of a pathetic nature.

Il Bomber Destro

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #5 on: Today at 09:13:13 AM »
So this isn’t really about the families Bomber, is it ?

It's about the state thwarting justice.

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #6 on: Today at 09:43:21 AM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/priory-hall-debacle-shows-need-for-decisive-action-1.631370

Following the 1981 Stardust disaster, the 1991 Building Control Act which introduced the Building Regulations was hailed as a significant piece of reforming legislation. But while the new regulations reflected international best practice, there was a flaw: they did not provide adequately for enforcement.
The 1991 Act gave the Minister power to introduce regulations for a series of measures relating to enforcement, but these have still not been introduced 20 years later. Two factors have contributed: (1) the determination of the Department of the Environment not to permit State officials to take responsibility, and potential future liability, for building enforcement inspections, and: (2) the unwillingness of the building industry to have statutory inspections imposed, on “efficiency” grounds.
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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #7 on: Today at 09:45:33 AM »
Same everywhere.Ordinary people don't matter as far as the political elite are concerned.The Grenfell tower victims won't get justice either from the UK Govt.

My vivid memory up here about Stardust was Ian Paisley openly expressing heartfelt sympathy to the families.

This is good therapy for you and reduces your risk of self harming so carry on.
Have you any views on the c**k Robin murder?
I think the sparrow is being set up by free state establishment figures
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Il Bomber Destro

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #8 on: Today at 07:32:12 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/priory-hall-debacle-shows-need-for-decisive-action-1.631370

Following the 1981 Stardust disaster, the 1991 Building Control Act which introduced the Building Regulations was hailed as a significant piece of reforming legislation. But while the new regulations reflected international best practice, there was a flaw: they did not provide adequately for enforcement.
The 1991 Act gave the Minister power to introduce regulations for a series of measures relating to enforcement, but these have still not been introduced 20 years later. Two factors have contributed: (1) the determination of the Department of the Environment not to permit State officials to take responsibility, and potential future liability, for building enforcement inspections, and: (2) the unwillingness of the building industry to have statutory inspections imposed, on “efficiency” grounds.

The Free State really has been an abhorrent failure when you look at the deeds of the establishment parties of the 26. The partition of the island has been an unmitigated failure on both sides of the border.

It's startling the way the masses continue to vote in two corrupt right wing parties ever since its inception.

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #9 on: Today at 07:33:57 PM »
So this isn’t really about the families Bomber, is it ?

+1

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Re: The Stardust Fire
« Reply #10 on: Today at 07:38:09 PM »
So this isn’t really about the families Bomber, is it ?

+1

Quelle surprise, the forum's resident brownshirt sees nothing wrong with a state-aided obstruction of justice for 48 innocent lives.