1-1 currently at the Lane, but that's not the main story, as Jol is heading out the door:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article2741245.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article2741245.ece)
Amazing stuff, apparently he was unaware at the start of the match that he was sacked.
What a club!
As a manager you live and die by the results, but I feel sorry for him. Seems like a genuine football man and has built a nice team at Spurs. What the hell went wrong? However inherits the team has great potential at their disposal.
Spurs have a team full of over hyped, under achieving wasters, Defoe,Jenas,Robinson etc
As a Spurs man, this is typical beheviour of Levy.......who claims to be a real Spurs fan.... my hole! If Jol goes, a pity really,a good manager and a real decent skin. He wouldn't be the worst man for the Ireland job. Just been offically announced...Jol is gone,he resigned before tonights game.
Quote from: Balboa on October 25, 2007, 10:02:35 PM
Spurs have a team full of over hyped, under achieving wasters, Defoe,Jenas,Robinson etc
It's no surprise when you mention over hyped, under achieving wasters that 3 English players come to mind. The Premiership is full of such players.
Spurs have shown a distinct lack of class in the way they handled the Jol situation, especially be speaking to another clubs manager while Jol was still in charge. It is also scandalous that news of his sacking was circulating around the ground before there was an official statement.
I hope Jol goes somewhere and has success. He is a very likeable bloke who was let down by players who couldn't carry out their basic roles. The injury to King hurt him as well and if I was to be critical of him he spent money foolishly during the summer. He should have bought a good goalkeeper, a good centre half and a couple of quality midfielders.
Spurs are acting like a big club and need to realise they are a long way off the mark, they remind me of Leeds (who went bust) and Newcastle (who were saved by a take over). This Ramos guy they are apparently going to appoint has had 10 clubs in 15 years and seems another journey man, he got lucky meeting Middlesboro in the Uefa cup final 2 seasons ago and then won it again when really Spurs should have dumped them earlier, and the talk of a 3million pound contract is ludicrous to say the least as he will need at least two seasons to sort the club out.
The Uefa cup is after all a third rate cup and it has to be remembered spurs are in this bracket.
David Pleat, Glenn Hoddle, David Pleat (again), Jacques Santini, Martin Jol .....Wenger remains undefeated.
In fact, since Wenger took charge of Arsenal Spurs have had:
1997 Chris Hughton (caretaker)
1997 Christian Gross
1998 David Pleat (caretaker)
1998 George Graham
2001 David Pleat (caretaker)
2001 Glenn Hoddle
2003 David Pleat (caretaker)
2004 Jacques Santini
2004 Martin Jol
Therein lies the problem. The board are at fault.
Feel a bit sorry for Jol, he seemed as someone said a good bloke.
Watching Hoddle and Graham fail was infinately more enjoyable.
It seems that the board & Levy in particular will never accept responsibility.
Granted, sometimes the manager is sh1te, but there have been about 7 different ones in ten years. Not much stability there.
Spirit of 91 amd 94, excellent regurgitation of the Talksport Breakfast show this morning and rehashing it as if it was your own original idea.
Bad the way it was done alright but Jol messed up big time when the chips were really down. West Ham in 2006 when a Champions League place was within grasp, and last year against Seville at White Hart Lane with the concession of two piss poor early goals and the throwing away of two goal leads against the Goons and Chelsea in the Carling Cup and FA Cup. Likeable and all that he is I don't think he was ever going to take us over the line and probably should have gone in the summer, and Camolli should have gone with him.
Feel sorry for Chris Hughton, great Irish player and a source of stability at the club for the last ten years.
What surprises me is why the lack of apparent interest in Klinsmann who has publicly stated he wants to work in London
Why should anyone feel sorry for Chris Hughton given the way the Tottenham defence has performed this season? To be frank, anyone who comments on the situation at Tottenham is doing so in a vacum becuase we can't be sure which players Jol bought. Kabul was terrible last night, but was he a Jol or a Camoli/Levy signing? Dawson was a Jol signing and he is shit.
I don't think Spurs lost their Champions' League spot at Upton Park in 06. They did it when they drew, instead of winning, at Highbury the week before. Besides, how can you plan for food poisoning?
I liked Jol. He earned the trust of Tottenham supporters and his record was good until this season. The question is whether he was fatally underminded by the board or by his own signings? That's the issue I would like to see addressed by Tottenham fans on this board.
Spurs have now had 10 managers while Arsene Wenger has been in control at Highbury. I believe Jol should not have been sacked and given time to turn things around as he had done enough to suggest he was a capable manager.
Quote from: T Fearon on October 26, 2007, 01:42:34 PM
Spirit of 91 amd 94, excellent regurgitation of the Talksport Breakfast show this morning and rehashing it as if it was your own original idea.
Bad the way it was done alright but Jol messed up big time when the chips were really down. West Ham in 2006 when a Champions League place was within grasp, and last year against Seville at White Hart Lane with the concession of two piss poor early goals and the throwing away of two goal leads against the Goons and Chelsea in the Carling Cup and FA Cup. Likeable and all that he is I don't think he was ever going to take us over the line and probably should have gone in the summer, and Camolli should have gone with him.
Feel sorry for Chris Hughton, great Irish player and a source of stability at the club for the last ten years.
What surprises me is why the lack of apparent interest in Klinsmann who has publicly stated he wants to work in London
Some good points there Tony, especially regarding the cup competions. Those 3 c**k-ups were major ones because they cost Spurs a realistic chance of winning a trophy, which would have bought him a lot more time. He did make a some curious substitutions during those matches as well.
The West Ham game was an unfortunate situation because half his team were food poisoned.
I thought they would have kept Hughton about the club although I don't think he will be out of work for long. I believe he has spent 25 years of his life at Spurs. He deserves a medal ;)
The obvious solution here is Klinsmann (I too am far from convinced about Ramos, he is another Benitez,looks good on the surface but might be found wanting). Klinsmann is readily available, no big compensation fee and has stated that he wants to work in London. If Levy can't see this then perhaps he too should follow Jol down the High Road
Quote from: T Fearon on October 26, 2007, 01:42:34 PM
Spirit of 91 amd 94, excellent regurgitation of the Talksport Breakfast show this morning and rehashing it as if it was your own original idea.
Bad the way it was done alright but Jol messed up big time when the chips were really down. West Ham in 2006 when a Champions League place was within grasp, and last year against Seville at White Hart Lane with the concession of two piss poor early goals and the throwing away of two goal leads against the Goons and Chelsea in the Carling Cup and FA Cup. Likeable and all that he is I don't think he was ever going to take us over the line and probably should have gone in the summer, and Camolli should have gone with him.
Feel sorry for Chris Hughton, great Irish player and a source of stability at the club for the last ten years.
What surprises me is why the lack of apparent interest in Klinsmann who has publicly stated he wants to work in London
Still doesn't mask the problem you have Fearon you tosser - yous are always going to be a mediocre team no matter who takes it on.
Remember the way Wenger got treated by the scum supporters of Tottenham when he arrived at Highbury - well he is still there and spurs are still nothing!!!!!
Why dont you give Talksport a call this evening when the fishing programme is on - they might listen to you!!
BTW well done yesterday in making a fool of yourself in the Irish news!!
Hers something else I copied for you!!!!
The Arsenal team that played against the Tiny Totts in September cost thus:
Jol: Free-spending chump
Almunia: 500k
Sagna: 6million
Toure: £150k
Gilberto: 4.5million
Clichy: 500k
Diaby: 2million
Flamini: Free
Fabregas: Nominal
Hleb: 7.5million
Van Persie: 3.5million
Adebeyor: 3million
Subs:
Rosicky: 6.8million
Song: 1million
Denilson: 3.4million
Total: £32.85million (that's the price of two Darren Bents).
In contrast the Spuds cost...
Paul Robinson: 1.5million
Pascal Chimbonda: 4.5million
Young-Pyo Lee: 1million
Younes Kaboul: 7million
Gareth Bale: 5million (could be 10, but we'll say 5 for now)
Michael Dawson: 8million
Tom Huddlestone: 2million
Jermaine Jenas: 9million
Steed Malbranque: 2million
Dimitar Berbatov: 10.9million
Robbie Keane: 7million
Subs:
Aaron Lennon: 1million
Darren Bent: 16million
Total: £74.9million
So even though we used one more sub their team cost well over double ours (£42 million more in fact) and yet we embarrassed them once again. Arsene Wenger is ace. Martin Jol is a spoon.
Are you Porky Parry in disguise?
Wenger will soon realise that he will never fulfill his European ambitions with the Goons and is bound to be made an offer he can't refuse by one of Europe's big clubs which matches his ambition ;D
Tony did you send a e-mail to sky sports?
Quote from: T Fearon on October 26, 2007, 04:56:29 PM
Are you Porky Parry in disguise?
Wenger will soon realise that he will never fulfill his European ambitions with the Goons and is bound to be made an offer he can't refuse by one of Europe's big clubs which matches his ambition ;D
Sorry, im not!!!! but i am led to believe you are Porky Fearon in the real!
I guess that rules Arsene out of going to the Lane then!! :o
Its' always the same on this board. Any thread that Tony Fearon is on is used a stick to beat him. Any chance we could discuss spurs without people hurling personal abuse.
I, for one, am sick of it.
So, did Jol deserve to be sacked, or did he fall out with the wrong people (Helmsley?) on the board?
edit: it's a done deal - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/
Never mind Pietas, when Spirit of 91and94 is hurling abuse at me he is not self abusing himself ;D
Good blog about the Jol situation on BBC Sport. The whole thing can be traced back to the defeat by the Goons last January (after a two goal lead was lost) followed up be a similar defeat by chelsea in the FA Cup. The Board began to seriously doubt whether Jol was good enough to help the club realise its ambitions. Apparently he pissed off the Board as well, constantly claiming how much he was in demand from other clubs. This should have ended last summer, instead of allowing the current mess that was waiting to happen, to develop. I feel they got it right in their assessment, Jol is good but not good enough for a club with Champions league aspirations
Its good to see a Manager like Ramos leave a club that is doing ok in the Champions League for Spurs all the same. Hope he takes Fredi Kanoute back as well, another of Jol's serious mistakes.
One way or another the AGM is going to be good crack this year!
Tony,
Can you post the link to the blog you mention. Personally, I hate to see Spurs involved in this circus again. The club hasn't been stable since Nicholson!
Tottenham make Ramos head coach
Ramos holds the Spanish equivalent of the FA Cup
Juande Ramos has signed a four-year deal to become the new head coach of Tottenham Hotspur, replacing Martin Jol who was sacked on Thursday.
Ramos, 53, resigned as Sevilla coach on Saturday morning and Spurs have asked Leeds if they can invite Gus Poyet to work as Ramos's assistant.
Ramos said: "It is a squad any coach would be excited to work with. There is potential to achieve great things."
Newspaper reports suggest he will be paid up to £6m a year by Spurs.
Report: Ramos takes charge at Spurs
Ramos will be at White Hart Lane for Sunday's Premiership clash with Blackburn and take charge of Spurs for the first time for Wednesday's Carling Cup visit of Blackpool.
Tottenham must now negotiate a pay-off to Jol and a compensation package for Sevilla.
I was hugely impressed with the Spurs fans both home and away when Sevilla played Spurs last season
Juande Ramos
Ramos led Sevilla to the Uefa Cup title in each of the last two seasons and into the Champions League for the first time after they finished a close third behind Real Madrid and Barcelona last year.
He also won a European Super Cup, a Copa del Rey and a Spanish Super Cup for the Andalusian club.
"This has been the hardest decision of my life," he said after leaving the Spanish club.
"My time at Sevilla has been the most important period of my life personally and professionally. I will be eternally grateful."
And in a statement released through the Tottenham website, he added: "I greatly appreciate the opportunity to work as head coach at Tottenham Hotspur, a club with a great tradition and history.
"Ever since I started my coaching career I have wanted to work in England. It is my sincere hope that I can repay the faith the Spurs board has shown in me.
"I am looking forward to meeting the players.
"I was hugely impressed with the Spurs fans both home and away when Sevilla played Spurs last season and it will be a privilege to be the coach of this club with the huge support it enjoys both at White Hart Lane and throughout the world."
Marcos Alvarez, 36, who worked with Ramos at Sevilla, will also join the Tottenham coaching staff.
Ramos' contract with Sevilla had been due to expire at the end of this season and Manolo Jimenez has been promoted from youth team coach to replace Ramos until the end of the season.
RAMOS FACTFILE
Full name:
Juan de la Cruz Ramos Cano
Age: 53
Managerial career:
Alcoyano (1993-94)
Levante (1994-95)
Logrones (1995-96)
Barcelona B (1996-97)
Lleida (1997-98)
Real Vallecano (1998-01)
Real Betis (2001-02)
Espanyol (2002)
Malaga (2003-04)
Sevilla (2005-07)
Trophies: Uefa Cup (2005, 2006)
Super Cup (2006)
Copa del Rey (2007)
Spanish Supercopa (2007)
Spurs sporting director Damien Comolli said: "Juande's arrival is great news for Tottenham Hotspur.
"He brings with him a wealth of experience, a proven track record and a winning pedigree.
"Now is the time for us to regroup and look to deliver the results and performances that everyone associated with the club wants to see."
Ramos's appointment brings to an end a lengthy pursuit by Spurs.
They were revealed to be interested in recruiting the Spaniard in the first week of the season when officials met him at the Alfonso XIII hotel in Sevilla.
He steps into the vacancy left by Jol, who was sacked following a disappointing start to the season which has left Spurs third from bottom.
I think Clive Allen should get the job - he really keeps the tradition going! ;D ;D :o ::)
Just got notice to-day of an EGM on Monday November 26th at White Hart Lane, although the agenda is all about financial matters there should still be some craic about Jol.
I have arranged to go to the Celtic AGM in Glasgow on the previous Monday unfortunately.
What the hell were Hughton and Jol doing at the Southend game on Saturday?
Ramos reputedly bringing Fredi back along with Alves (a super player) and Palop in from Seville.
PS Even though we are playing shit its good to see we can still score more goals than the Goons at Anfield and don't have to rely on late equalisers to scrape a point there ;D
A shambles of a club. I heard Graham Roberts on the wireless the other night. It appears that Spurs didn't invite any past players, no matter how great they were, to their 125 celebrations recently if they had ever criticised the club in any way over the years. Roberts, one of Spurs' most revered players, was asked a month beforehand what he thought of the Martin Jol situation. He replied that he thought they shouldn't have contacted other managers behind Jol's back. He soon got a call from Spurs telling him never to talk ill of the club again. Roberts, amongst others, was then snubbed at the anniversary farce. As the radio station's journalists concluded, they're the most spineless, spiteful and idiotic club in the league and deserve to be in the shambles they find themselves.
Crap club.
Quote from: T Fearon on October 29, 2007, 06:37:29 PM
PS Even though we are playing shit its good to see we can still score more goals than the Goons at Anfield and don't have to rely on late equalisers to scrape a point there ;D
No, just concede a late one to drop two. >:(
Quote from: T Fearon on October 29, 2007, 06:37:29 PM
Just got notice to-day of an EGM on Monday November 26th at White Hart Lane, although the agenda is all about financial matters there should still be some craic about Jol.
I have arranged to go to the Celtic AGM in Glasgow on the previous Monday unfortunately.
What the hell were Hughton and Jol doing at the Southend game on Saturday?
Ramos reputedly bringing Fredi back along with Alves (a super player) and Palop in from Seville.
PS Even though we are playing shit its good to see we can still score more goals than the Goons at Anfield and don't have to rely on late equalisers to scrape a point there ;D
I bet the Celtic Crew are more than delighted you can attend - maybe the spurs board will change the date to accomodate you Tony? You should give them a call as I am sure Daniel would like your points of view on the running of the club / team especially as the Relegation battle is in full swing for you's now!!
Freddie showed all his credentials in the Champions League at the Emirates and if you lot take him back that will really show some great ambition in your fight to remain a 'top side'!!!
As for your final quote I wont comment but it is a very sad point considering your high flying start to the season!!
Keep them coming son!! ;D
Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2007, 06:49:20 PM
Roberts, one of Spurs' most revered player
You're having a laugh. A big stopper of a centre back, nothing more.
On another point,did you see the photo of the legend in the November edition of Hotspur? The guy with me is called Jennings by the way ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on October 30, 2007, 03:05:45 PM
On another point,did you see the photo of the legend in the November edition of Hotspur? The guy with me is called Jennings by the way ;D
should this not be in the favourite comic thread?
Quote from: T Fearon on October 30, 2007, 03:05:45 PM
On another point,did you see the photo of the legend in the November edition of Hotspur? The guy with me is called Jennings by the way ;D
Thought you didn't want your photo being out in the public domain.
Quote from: ziggysego on October 30, 2007, 08:26:24 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 30, 2007, 03:05:45 PM
On another point,did you see the photo of the legend in the November edition of Hotspur? The guy with me is called Jennings by the way ;D
Thought you didn't want your photo being out in the public domain.
it isnt, its in the Hotspur!!!!
Through into the last eight in the Carling Cup, in Ramos' first match:
Tottenham 2 Blackpool 0
By Mike McGrath, PA Sport
Tottenham started the Juande Ramos era by reaching the Carling Cup quarter-final at the expense of Blackpool - but the new boss was shown how tough his new job will be.
Robbie Keane grabbed the opener in the 18th minute at White Hart Lane and Pascal Chimbonda sealed the win with a second-half header, but Spurs were rattled in between.
The Coca-Cola Championship side hit the crossbar through Gary Taylor-Fletcher, who was also denied by a stunning Paul Robinson save.
It took less than a minute for Ramos to start stalking his technical area, pointing instructions to a defence that looked short on confidence.
Blackpool, 20th in their division, sensed their opportunity and started with pace, and only Younes Kaboul's block prevented Robinson being called into action after Keigan Parker was sent down the right channel. Robinson flapped at the resulting corner.
There was more fluency going forward, and Didier Zokora had their first effort on goal but his long-range drive angled wide.
Dimitar Berbatov set Aaron Lennon off down the right and his low cross was cleared just as Robbie Keane was ready to pounce for his ninth goal of the season.
It was at the back where Spurs continued to panic. Keane gave the ball away to Parker who played David Fox through to fire into the side-netting after forcing a mistake from Kaboul.
Keane added to his impressive tally in the 18th minute, clipping over goalkeeper Paul Rachubka from Berbatov's flick-on.
Ramos barely flinched, acknowledging the goal by pointing at Robinson, whose long punt had set up the opener.
Steed Malbranque and Zokora were off target with wild long-range efforts and Jenas got a little closer, while the visitors looked to test Spurs' nervy defence.
The home fans held their breath when Robinson came rushing out to clear a long ball but he got enough on the ball to avoid another blunder, even if it was an ugly slice to the touchline.
Keane failed to connect with a scissor-kick after Kaboul broke from defence and Lennon crossed from the right.
HT: Tottenham 1 Blackpool 0
Blackpool started the second half looking to rattle the hosts and Gary Taylor-Fletcher smacked the crossbar with a header from Parker's cross within two minutes of the restart.
Keane should have added a second when he raced through and chipped wide and he was nearly made to rue his miss as Robinson somehow flung himself to keep out Taylor-Fletcher's next effort, which was headed for the top corner.
Just as the visitors were gaining momentum, Pascal Chimbonda headed in Spurs second. Malbranque's corner found the full-back unmarked at the far post and the France international thudded home his header.
Jermain Defoe came on for Keane after the hour mark and almost scored with his first touch, only for Rachubka to tip over the crossbar.
Ramos also looked at Darren Bent off the bench as well as Teemu Tainio at right-back after taking off Kaboul, suggesting there will be changes before long.
Two goals (once again the Robster is in electrifying goalscoing form this season) and more importantly a clean sheet, very significant when we have conceded three goals to shite like Fulham this season
Definitely an improvement
Ah come on Tony. If you're going to start a new thread after each Spurs win we'll have at least 3 by the end of the season. Merge this with the Official Spurs Thread.
I have decided to attend the EGM at the Lane on November 26th, at which Levy is to speak about the Jol affair. Thats two AGM's, Celtic and Spurs, Glasgow and London, in the space of seven days. Is it any wonder I'm thinking of relinquinishing my financial stake in football clubs? ;D
Received in post this morning. Complimentary 125 Year commemorative jersey (the blue and white one as worn in the recent match with Villa), priced at £55, just for taking out an MBNA Tottenham Hotspur Credit Card, with interest free on balance transfers for a year as well! Not bad, eh? ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on November 03, 2007, 11:05:52 AM
Received in post this morning. Complimentary 125 Year commemorative jersey (the blue and white one as worn in the recent match with Villa), priced at £55, just for taking out an MBNA Tottenham Hotspur Credit Card, with interest free on balance transfers for a year as well! Not bad, eh? ;D
It must have cost them quite a bit in postage, i would imagine it was a bulky item.
Cracking goal all the same from Luke Young for Boro, another player, along with Pedro Mendes etc, that should never have been let go from the Lane. We simply must beat Wigan at home next Saturday
Good interview with MJ in to-day's Sunday Times. He reckons he may well be back managing Spurs one day (didn't Glen Hoddle say the same) and spoke very eloquently about how he feels his strength is buying and developing young players and he felt that this would ultimately have paid dividends.Also said he had no idea during the game with Getafe that he was going to be sacked.
See the legendary Jimmy Greaves has said that the Board must resign if the Ramos move doesn't work out. Quite right
Quote from: T Fearon on November 04, 2007, 10:04:33 PM
Cracking goal all the same from Luke Young for Boro, another player, along with Pedro Mendes etc, that should never have been let go from the Lane. We simply must beat Wigan at home next Saturday
Good interview with MJ in to-day's Sunday Times. He reckons he may well be back managing Spurs one day (didn't Glen Hoddle say the same) and spoke very eloquently about how he feels his strength is buying and developing young players and he felt that this would ultimately have paid dividends.Also said he had no idea during the game with Getafe that he was going to be sacked.
See the legendary Jimmy Greaves has said that the Board must resign if the Ramos move doesn't work out. Quite right
Greavsie is quite an authority these days, what with the alcohol pickled brain of his, a funny old game indeed......
As posted on that other thread, but with the actual title, rather than lame smartarse efforts at humour:
Tottenham plan stadium expansion
By Mihir Bose
BBC sports editor
Tottenham have turned to a man who played a major role in the development of Arsenal's Emirates Stadium to help them build a venue of similar quality.
Tony Winterbottom, formerly of the London Development Authority, is now masterminding plans to expand Spurs' White Hart Lane ground to about 52,000.
The project would cost in the region of £300m of which £150m would be borrowed.
But it would mean Spurs having to vacate White Hart Lane for two seasons, and may have to share with West Ham.
A couple of years ago Tottenham were very keen to become permanent tenants at Wembley but the Football Association did not want that.
Now Tottenham have again approached Wembley to inquire about playing some of their matches there while they rebuild White Hart Lane.
But Wembley want a lot of money to hire the stadium and Tottenham may only consider it worthwhile that top matches, such as the derby with north London rivals Arsenal, are played there.
So they have also spoken to West Ham, with a view to playing the less high-profile matches at Upton Park.
The problem with West Ham is that the Hammers are themselves thinking about building a new stadium, so that might complicate things too.
Another solution might be to share the Emirates Stadium with Arsenal but that seems fraught with difficulty, particularly with the present rivalry between the fans.
Consequently, there is also talk of Tottenham playing some matches at a ground outside London.
But while rebuilding White Hart Lane is the preferred option for Spurs, there are two other alternatives that are being considered.
One is to develop some land just north of White Hart Lane.
This would mean Tottenham would continue to play at White Hart Lane while the new stadium was built.
Or they could develop one of a couple of possible sites in Enfield, but that would mean a new stadium quite some distance from their current ground. Redeveloping White Hart Lane is definitely the number one choice and Paul Phillips, a project manager at Emirates, is also helping Tottenham.
Spurs have also got high-powered architect Ken Shuttleworth, who is the right-hand man of Norman Foster, whose company designed the new Wembley, on board.
It was stated by Levy at the AGM in January that there would be a decision taken in the next 12 monts to either build at a green field site or redevelop WHL.I am delighted that we are staying at the Lane, it is and always will be our spiritual home. Hope they extend the underground link though as it is not the easiest of places to get to.
It will certainly be the finest stadium in the Championship.
Quote from: T Fearon on November 06, 2007, 12:42:54 PM
It was stated by Levy at the AGM in January that there would be a decision taken in the next 12 monts to either build at a green field site or redevelop WHL.I am delighted that we are staying at the Lane, it is and always will be our spiritual home. Hope they extend the underground link though as it is not the easiest of places to get to.
Not a hope. "Transport for London" has made it quite clear that any such extension is not even on their list of priorities, never mind near the top, and Levy will never dedicate the tens of millions (minimum) necessary from THFC's resources.
This is because Levy (ENIC's) strategy is quite clear. Having seen how other clubs have left Spurs far behind in the race to maximise their value in the race to find an American or Asian billionaire to sell up to, Levy is now going all out to get the share price up and do the same. That is, it isn't enough to wait whilst the young players (Huddlestone, Dawson, Lennon etc) eventually get the club into a Top Four place. Nor were they prepared to give Jol the time and budget he required. Quite simply, the Board is demanding that Ramos gets Spurs into the Champions League in the shortest possible time, thereby adding another £100-150 million to the club's share value. That way, they can sell at the top of the market, so that Billionaire Joe Lewis can die in the Bahamas even richer, with Levy (rumoured always to have been a Gooner!), able to salt away his generous share of the profits in some other tax exile.
As such, like the recent paltry dividend paid to gullible Shareholders following the club's recent results, this intention to extend WHL should be seen as merely the cheapest option open to the Board in giving the impression of being a "big" club. Otherwise, no Billionaire is going to be persuaded to hand over £500m+ for a club which only has a capacity of 36k. Therefore, Levy will effect the cheapest possible extension, sell up, and leave some other bugger, or the fans, to worry how the extra crowds are ever going to get to the ground in time for kick-off... :o
Quote from: T Fearon on November 06, 2007, 12:42:54 PM
It was stated by Levy at the AGM in January that there would be a decision taken in the next 12 monts to either build at a green field site or redevelop WHL.I am delighted that we are staying at the Lane, it is and always will be our spiritual home. Hope they extend the underground link though as it is not the easiest of places to get to.
Yeah, good idea tony, extend it to Chesthunt and build it up there....
Quote from: T Fearon on November 03, 2007, 11:05:52 AM
Received in post this morning. Complimentary 125 Year commemorative jersey (the blue and white one as worn in the recent match with Villa), priced at £55, just for taking out an MBNA Tottenham Hotspur Credit Card, with interest free on balance transfers for a year as well! Not bad, eh? ;D
Fifty Five quid for the commemorative jersey, eh? Most businesses reward their loyal customers by
reducing their prices, or holding a sale etc. Whereas Spurs "rewarded" them by putting the price up? Of course, I wouldn't expect you to pay for one at half price, never mind twice the price, but you do appreciate that if you ever wear it out you'll be marked out for a gullible twat, however you came by it?
Quote from: T Fearon on November 03, 2007, 11:05:52 AM
Received in post this morning. Complimentary 125 Year commemorative jersey (the blue and white one as worn in the recent match with Villa), priced at £55, just for taking out an MBNA Tottenham Hotspur Credit Card, with interest free on balance transfers for a year as well! Not bad, eh? ;D
An outstanding introductory balance transfer rate of just 0% p.a. – available for twelve months from the date your account is opened.
3% handling fee applies.
Typical rate
15.9% APR (variable).
Yeah bit of financial brilliance there Tony !! ::)
Let us know if you see any others :D
Quote from: Bensars on November 06, 2007, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on November 03, 2007, 11:05:52 AM
Received in post this morning. Complimentary 125 Year commemorative jersey (the blue and white one as worn in the recent match with Villa), priced at £55, just for taking out an MBNA Tottenham Hotspur Credit Card, with interest free on balance transfers for a year as well! Not bad, eh? ;D
An outstanding introductory balance transfer rate of just 0% p.a. – available for twelve months from the date your account is opened. 3% handling fee applies.
Typical rate 15.9% APR (variable).
Yeah bit of financial brilliance there Tony !! ::)
Let us know if you see any others :D
Yeah, but Spurs gave him a "free" shirt worth £55 to go with it.
And how do we know it is worth £55?
Why, Spurs told him it was... :D
EG, is there any situation in which you wont post to attempt to ridicule Tony?
Its getting boring and is akin to internet bullying.
So whats the predictions for Ramos, will they continue to struggle or start to climb the table.
Given the players they have I cant beleive they are so far down.
Jealous bastards! The shirt comes in its wrapping and has the certificate of authenticity along with the price (ie £55) marked. A real collectors item, I would suggest ;D
Also handling fees are part and parcel of all balance transfers and 3% is about par for the course. ;)
Next on the list is a Corporate Hospitality Trip to the 9 Counties of Ulster Versus Gloucester Heineken Cup tie on Friday night, with free nosh, free bar, and mini bus transfer to and from home. Terrible life but someone has to do it! Think of me downing hot whiskies free gratis when you are sitting freezing your assholes off in the wooden seats ;D
Quote from: his holiness nb on November 06, 2007, 03:06:09 PM
EG, is there any situation in which you wont post to attempt to ridicule Tony?
No.
Quote from: his holiness nb on November 06, 2007, 03:06:09 PM
Its getting boring
Not for me, it's not.
Quote from: his holiness nb on November 06, 2007, 03:06:09 PM
and is akin to internet bullying.
Really? My pointing out that he's getting ripped off by his beloved Spurs over the hugely inflated price of the commemorative jersey? Besides, plenty others have given him stick (e.g. over the poor-value credit card), yet you don't take them up on it. Anyhow, he's a big boy - I'm sure he can fight his own battles.
Quote from: his holiness nb on November 06, 2007, 03:06:09 PM
So whats the predictions for Ramos, will they continue to struggle or start to climb the table.
Given the players they have I cant beleive they are so far down.
I'm sure they'll climb the table - if for no other reason that there are so many other teams out there who will prove even worse over the course of the season (Derby, Wigan, Boro, Sunderland, Reading even). That said, I've no doubt that they would have recovered had Jol been properly backed; in fact, they wouldn't have been down there in the first place had the Board not been such a bunch of back-stabbers.
As for Ramos, I daresay he's a good coach, but there's been many's another coach whose record both before and after Spurs was entirely respectable, yet who proved unable to sort the club out. Ramos may get it right, but Spurs might as well write off this season before they can expect tangible improvement under him. And in any case, there's no guarantee that whatever results he does get will prove better than Jol would have got.
Anyhow, Ramos is the 11th manager (or temporary manager) Spurs have had since Wenger took over at the Arse, 12 years ago. Coincidence? I think not. As the man says, if sacking managers was the answer, Rochdale would be European Champions in perpetuity! :D
Er, I use interest free Credit Card offers very rarely, eg around Xmas, and always have the total paid off just before the interest free period expires, therefore I am never caught for exorbitant interest charges. ;D
After Friday I will have attended sporting functions at both Windsor Park and Ravenhill whilst enjoying free hospitality but never a GAA sporting event in the Six Counties whilst availing of Corporate Hospitality. Something amiss there, but as Alanis Morrissette would say, Isn't it ironic? ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on November 06, 2007, 03:56:22 PM
Jealous bastards! The shirt comes in its wrapping and has the certificate of authenticity along with the price (ie £55) marked. A real collectors item, I would suggest ;D
Also handling fees are part and parcel of all balance transfers and 3% is about par for the course. ;)
Obviously they need to get them off loaded due to the failure to sell them in the reformed petrol station (SPURS SUPERSTORE) on the A1010 High Road!
Even Fearon would agree it is a shit excuse for a shop!!
It has improved, but could be better. I would expect out corporate wing to grow alongside our rejuvenation as a team and no doubt the new stadium development will come complete wit a new superstore.
Access to and from WHL in general is the pits, particularly after a game. If you want to get away quick you are more or less obliged to make the long trek by foot down to Seven Sisters Tube Station. Even if you're lucky enough to get a bus, yiu're usually stuck for ages in traffic jams
Ramos has said that he will let Berbatov (sp) leave in the January sales if he wants to go
Quote from: T Fearon on November 06, 2007, 03:56:22 PM
Jealous bastards! The shirt comes in its wrapping and has the certificate of authenticity along with the price (ie £55) marked. A real collectors item, I would suggest ;D
Also handling fees are part and parcel of all balance transfers and 3% is about par for the course. ;)
Next on the list is a Corporate Hospitality Trip to the 9 Counties of Ulster Versus Gloucester Heineken Cup tie on Friday night, with free nosh, free bar, and mini bus transfer to and from home. Terrible life but someone has to do it! Think of me downing hot whiskies free gratis when you are sitting freezing your assholes off in the wooden seats ;D
All this years totteringham shirts could be considered collectors items if its their last season in top flight football for a year or two.
Under way at Tel-Aviv, but nothing to report just yet.
1-0 to Spurs, Keane on 26 minutes.
He must be the hottest striker in England presently...in a team thats off form and struggling as well. This could be the making of Robbie alright
2-0 now, Berbatov finds the target again.
We are like AC Milan. Cant get a domestic league win to save our lives,but dynamite in Europe ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on November 08, 2007, 04:38:14 PM
We are like AC Milan. Cant get a domestic league win to save our lives,but dynamite in Europe ;D
Well it's Wigan next, so that would want to change quickly.
HT - 2-0 and looking comfortable.
Finished up 2-0 - back on track in the group anyway, AaB and Anderlecht left to play now.
More like it from Spurs today - a comfortable win, job done early on, and the goals being shared around. Hard to believe it's only the second win, but the climb up the table is welcome, 14th now, with 12th spot in sight, a good run needed to move further up though.
Interesting meeting at the Lane yesterday, which was addressed by the Board and our new manager who answered questions in Spanish, through an interpreter and declared that he was happy with his current squad, wants and believes he can bring our club into the elite of Europe, but stressed the immediate priority was to ensure qualification for the knock out stages of this season's UEFA Cup and to climb up the League table. It was also stated that Juande would meet the fans in a special fans forum early in the New Year.
Main points.
1.Operating profits up from £5m to £32m, meaning a dividend for shareholders (£5000 will come in handy for Xmas! ;D)
2. Daniel Levy thanked Martin Jol, Chris Hughton and Hans Segers for all their efforts, and for their success, but it was felt a change was needed to ensure the club moved forward to the net level.
3. Daniel Levy denied categorically that ENIC had any intentions of selling the club either now or in the future.
4.Daniel Levy denied saying that he told Jol Spurs had to finish fourth to save his job. He stated that this was a target as opposed to a demand.
4. Community projects continue unabated with at least one first team player a week actively involved. Full Learning Zone now developed and operating at the Lane for Local Community
5.Nothing further could be divulged in terms of future stadium plans, ie to redevlop the Lane or to build a new stadium, but they have appointed the project manager who oversaw the Development of the Haemorrhoids Stadium, so things are moving.
6.Plans drawn up for a £30m State of the Art Training Facility at Enfield, housing First Team and Youth Academy, which amongst other things will include a full facsimile of the White Hart Lane Pitch. It was stressed however that opposition will have to be contended with.
Questions from the floor included.
Criticism of Damien Camolli's role, though it was stressed that Martin Jol and the current coach have final say as regards player recruitment. One delegate stated that no club has ever won a major trophy in England with a Director of Football.
Board refused to disclose details of Martin Jol's payoff package and Ramos's salary after a shareholder posed the question.
Many shareholders and fans up in arms about tickets for away European Matches being provided as part of expensive travel packages for Executive use, when the loyal supporters are denied.
Can we merge this sh1te in the spuds thread?
Can we not just get Admin to delete the thread?
Quote£5000 will come in handy for Xmas!
Dyou keep nothing private ffs. ::)
Well Saturday's result apart, the team is showing good form again, and are giving Fulham a going-over, 4-1 now, Huddlestone and Keane getting two each.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44321000/jpg/_44321452_keane.jpg)
Great win for the Yids, moving up from 13th to 13th.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2007, 01:53:16 PM
Great win for the Yids, moving up from 13th to 13th.
Well they didn't drop a place yesterday either, unlike others. ;)
Tottenham taunts go on as Sol row refuses to go away
Sol Campbell's long-running feud with Tottenham fans shows no signs of abating even though it is the season of goodwill to all men.
Portsmouth's central defender has complained about the verbal barracking he received throughout Spurs' 1-0 win against his current club at Fratton Park earlier this month.
He has been supported by Pompey boss Harry Redknapp and Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger who consider the foul language, homophobic taunts and four-letter abuse to have crossed the line.
And radio phone-ins have been dominated by calls to punish fans who consider idols who leave their club to join arch enemies as traitors who have committed the abhorrent act of footballing treason.
Tottenham scum taunted Campbell in chants during their 5-1 Boxing Day victory over Fulham and the ill-feeling is surely going to intensify as Portsmouth's visit to White Hart Lane on Saturday, March 22 draws nearer.
They still resent the fact the Spurs board spurned advances from Manchester United which could have taken Campbell to Old Trafford for £18million as his contract started to wind down.
And they are bitter he did not take up lucrative offers to play in Italy or Spain or sign a £100,000 a-week fresh offer at White Hart Lane rather than head down the High Road to Highbury in the summer of 2001.
That prompted furious fans to hang an effigy of the England international from a lamppost outside the Park Lane end of their ground and instigate arguably one of the most intense hatreds in modern football.
When Campbell first returned to Tottenham as an Arsenal player the Gunners team coach was attacked by supporters throwing bottles and bricks as police struggled to maintain order and he has been Public Enemy No.1 in N17 ever since.
So what did Campbell say to spark the soccer soap opera which has taken more turns than a Christmas Day edition of EastEnders?
My heart and soul is here and I want to play for Spurs. I am going nowhere - for now - August 4, 2000.
I can assure everyone that I won't be signing for another club while I am still a Spurs player. I want to win the Premiership and I want success in Europe but, most of all, I want to believe I can achieve that here - December 3, 2000.
Being a Spurs fan as a boy and a player for so many years, it would be hard for me to sign for Arsenal. I don't think the fans here would ever forgive me - December 17, 2000.
I want to play for Tottenham, that's it really. I am going nowhere - January 1, 2001.
I'm happy here and willing to do business now. I'm not selfish, I'm looking at the current situation and want the club to do well - January 5, 2001.
It's the ambition of Spurs and where we are going that concerns me. I have the right to keep my options open. Nobody can blame me for wanting success and above all wanting it at Tottenham. But talk is cheap - March 11, 2001.
As long as the club is healthy and things are in place, then myself and other players will want to join Tottenham or continue with them. I want to stay at Tottenham - March 26, 2001.
There is still a lot of sorting out to be done but I am sure it will be resolved - April 1, 2001.
I will leave it as late as possible - but I am happy at the moment and that is the main thing - April 13, 2001.
Going abroad is not in my mind. the ball is in Spurs' court now. I am in no hurry because I want to look at the whole picture. We will just have to wait and see what happens in the next two or three weeks - May 21, 2001.
Campbell then lit the blue touchpaper when he signed for Arsenal on a Bosman free on July 3, 2001.
Campbell's abuse from Spurs fans pales into insignificance with that meted out to Ashley Cole by goons, all because Ashely decided to join a bigger club that could afford to pay him more. ;D
As far as Sol goes its time to let bygones be bygones. After all, he fcuked the Goons up big time in the league in the 2005/06 season (remember he gifted West Ham three points) and did his level best to help Spurs into a top four finish that season ;D
I am glad he is languishing at Portsmouth losing at home to top teams like Spurs and only managing a draw against shite like Arsenal ;D
Sol at Arsenal - 2 League titles, 2 FA Cups, one double, Invincible.
Sol at Spurs - Milk Cup.
Jaysus, defences on top eh? Just a good thing we can actually score them, most goals scored in the league now, but not far off the bottom for shipping them either. Reading score four goals away and get walloped again! Oh and that's another place moved up the table, and 9 points away from the relegation scrap, which will hopefully increase in margin in the new year.
Tottenham 6-4 Reading
By David McIntyre
Dimitar Berbatov scored four goals for Tottenham as they won an amazing game.
Berbatov put Spurs ahead with a tap-in before Kalifa Cisse levelled and Ivar Ingimarsson headed Reading in front.
Berbatov smashed home an equaliser, Dave Kitson restored Reading's lead and Berbatov completed his hat-trick only for Kitson to then put Reading 4-3 up.
Steed Malbranque equalised and Jermain Defoe scored from the rebound after Robbie Keane's penalty was parried, before Berbatov got Spurs' sixth.
Tottenham - with defender Ledley King playing his second match following his comeback from a knee injury - made the perfect start, going ahead after six minutes.
Keane beat the offside trap to collect Malbranque's clever pass and cross for Berbatov to score from eight yards.
The home side looked in control but then conceded an equaliser against the run of play.
Spurs keeper Paul Robinson could only punch Nicky Shorey's long free-kick to the feet of Cisse, who made no mistake from the edge of the penalty area.
Keane then missed a golden chance to regain the lead for Spurs just before the break.
Ingimarsson slipped under pressure from Berbatov, whose low cross from the right flank left Keane with the goal at his mercy but the Irishman was unable to connect.
Keane's miss was punished eight minutes into the second half, when Ingimarsson put the Royals in front by heading in Shorey's corner.
The header was almost straight at Robinson, but the England keeper failed to react and not for the first time this season was arguably at fault for the goal.
Robinson later redeemed himself by twice diving at the feet of Kitson to deny the Reading striker.
Kitson's hesitation after Cisse's deflected shot dropped to him allowed Robinson to intervene, and the keeper again thwarted Kitson after he had linked up well with Royals midfielder Bobby Convey.
A third Reading goal seemed to be on the cards but a mistake by Graeme Murty gifted Spurs an equaliser.
Substitute Defoe found space on the right and his ball into the box was poorly dealt with by Murty, whose clearance straight to Berbatov allowed the Bulgarian to fire into the roof of the net.
But Reading - without an away win all season - hit back almost straightaway.
Again a Shorey corner was Tottenham's undoing, with Kitson heading in the full-back's perfect delivery.
Almost every attack seemed to result in a goal and with the Reading defence standing still, Berbatov poked the ball beyond keeper Marcus Hahnemann, completing his hat-trick and levelling the match at 3-3.
Astonishingly, Reading regained the lead with their next attack. This time Kitson was released by Stephen Hunt's perfect pass and calmly lifted the ball over Robinson.
Spurs' response was equally emphatic.
They dug out another equaliser on 76 minutes when Tom Huddlestone picked out Malbranque, who shrugged off Sonko's challenge and found the corner of Hahnemann's net.
Three minutes later, Tottenham were awarded a penalty after Sonko fouled Keane.
Hahnemann saved Keane's spot-kick but Defoe was on hand to score from the rebound with a close-range header.
The outstanding Berbatov still managed to have the final say, latching on to Younes Kaboul's long ball and shooting past the beleaguered Hahnemann to finally complete the scoring.
Out with the old in with the new - Tottenham just keep it all the old - Happy New Year!
All those years of hurt washed away in 90 glorious minutes! ;D
Were you watching Shane O'Neill? ;D ;D ;D ;D
here we go, Tony I was expecting you to be on at half time, were you hiding incase you scudded them?
Arsenal has their three best players (Fabregas, Gallas, Adebayor) on the field tonight amongst a host of regular first teamers, but Spurs were not to be denied. Malbranque, Keane, Jenas and Lennon just too good for the Gooners.
Flights on the day of the final, back the next day belfast to stanstead are 30 quid return on ryanair.
Already booked, early morning and back to Dublin from Stanstead at 9.45 pm on Sunday night!
Didn't have to wait long...
Quote(Fabregas, Gallas, Adebayor)
yea they all played the full 90 ::)
In fairness the Spuds beat a decent Arsenal, a side better on paper than that Spurs side but that's football ain it....
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 22, 2008, 10:14:27 PM
Didn't have to wait long...
Quote(Fabregas, Gallas, Adebayor)
yea they all played the full 90 ::)
In fairness the Spuds beat a decent Arsenal, a side better on paper than that Spurs side but that's football ain it....
Well Gallas did play the whole game and Fabregas came on early.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2008, 10:04:56 PM
Arsenal has their three best players (Fabregas, Gallas, Adebayor) on the field tonight amongst a host of regular first teamers, but Spurs were not to be denied. Malbranque, Keane, Jenas and Lennon just too good for the Gooners.
The sun has to shine on every dogs arse once in a while.
QuoteThe sun has to shine on every dogs arse once in a while.
In fairness, Spurs played Arsenal off the pitch a fortnight ago and at least deserved a draw at Emirates a month ago.
Great stuff lads.
Here's hoping the Spurs can win final and wash that Blackburn final bad taste out of the mouth.
23rd time lucky ;)
Spurs where very good tonight to give credit where it is due.
Walcott was absolute rubbish
Congratulations to Spurs. After 23 matches, I'm glad their victory came in this competition. We'll take the league's 6 points thank you!
Badly missed Flamini and Rosicky tonight, our two best players in recent games.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 22, 2008, 10:02:04 PM
All those years of hurt washed away in 90 glorious minutes! ;D
Just after watching the highlights and spurs fully deserved their victory but to suggest all those years of hurt washed away after beating an understrength arsenal says it all really
Anyone want to swop two Carling Cup final tickets for two McKenna Cup final tickets?
Back in a final after six years, and the Gooners gunned down after 8 years of near misses. Ramos sure likes his cup runs!
Out of interest, what's the best prospects for getting tickets for the home Prem games around March/April? Will they be on sale soon, Portsmouth, Newcastle and Boro are the games on around then.
Spurs 5 Goons 1 and Bristol Rovers dump Fulham/ North East of Ireland unionists out of the FA Cup as well ;D
Pints of Carling and Cider all round ;D
Fair play Tony, helluva an achievement reaching the Rumbelows Cup final.
Why do we have to accept Tony creating a new topic every time Spuds win a game?
- Thankfully it hasn't been as often this season!
Why do we have to accept Tony creating a new topic every time Spuds win a game?
Because like the crest on the spuds shirt [Edited by Mod 3 - Hectorsshoes, that is personal abuse. You are now on a warning. Another incident will incur a ban]
Quote from: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 11:14:56 PM
Congratulations to Spurs. After 23 matches, I'm glad their victory came in this competition. We'll take the league's 6 points thank you!
Badly missed Flamini and Rosicky tonight, our two best players in recent games.
Maybe, but you still would have lost... Spurs were just better last night... Its been a while but you have to admit that, most gooners find it hard to swallow but fairs fair, they have said it. ;D
Keep it up Ramos... One swallow does not make it. UEFA cup is a disticnt possibility for this team now.. 8)
Hopefully the Blues will join the Spuds at Wembley tonight, although a difficult game for the Chelsea second string awaits.
* Aaron Lennon in 2nd-best-pass-of-the-season to date last night. Only surpassed by Super Frank's v Man City.
Just heard that Tony's got the flights booked already...
9:10am flight Dublin to Cardiff.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2008, 05:04:59 PM
Just heard that Tony's got the flights booked already...
9:10am flight Dublin to Cardiff.
I dont think the rotund fellow will make a similar mistake again :o
Quote from: GY Joe on January 23, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 11:14:56 PM
Congratulations to Spurs. After 23 matches, I'm glad their victory came in this competition. We'll take the league's 6 points thank you!
Badly missed Flamini and Rosicky tonight, our two best players in recent games.
Maybe, but you still would have lost... Spurs were just better last night... Its been a while but you have to admit that, most gooners find it hard to swallow but fairs fair, they have said it. ;D
Keep it up Ramos... One swallow does not make it. UEFA cup is a disticnt possibility for this team now.. 8)
All the spud's fans will be Cheering on Chelski tonite...Then your virtually guarantied to be in the UEFA cup as Chelski will qualify for CL
Your only hope!
Doesnt work like that pat. If Chelsea win the league cup the uefa place goes to the seventh team in the league, probably Liverpool!!!
Quote from: slow corner back on January 23, 2008, 09:31:54 PM
Doesnt work like that pat. If Chelsea win the league cup the uefa place goes to the seventh team in the league, probably Liverpool!!!
Not sure about that, I think that only happened last year as both Arsenal and Chelski were in the Final and they both were in the CL...
If i'm wrong I stand corrected...
Had the wee fella wearing his full Spurs kit last night (he's one), while listening to the match on the radio!!!
Even got the Chas and Dave 7" Vinyl recorded dusted off and on the record player!!!!!
"Ossies going to Wembley his knees have gone all trembling!! Come on you Spurs!"
What the hell's he doing up that late?
Good to see London's top two clubs going head to head in this year's Carling Cup Final. Also I have no doubt that neither's players will disgrace the game or the occasion by fighting amongst each other should their opponents gain a two or three goal advantage ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on January 24, 2008, 08:57:13 AM
Good to see London's top two clubs going head to head in this year's Carling Cup Final. Also I have no doubt that neither's players will disgrace the game or the occasion by fighting amongst each other should their opponents gain a two or three goal advantage ;D
Keep it up Fearon, Spurs are wonderful.
See you made a fool of yourself again in the Irish News - something you and Willie Frazer have in common.. ;D
Quote from: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 11:04:33 PM
What the hell's he doing up that late?
:D He's the devil reincarnated. Seriously.
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on January 24, 2008, 10:23:53 AM
See you made a fool of yourself again in the Irish News - something you and Willie Frazer have in common.. ;D
Jaysus.
releasing a DVD of the game the other night
what mugs would buy this?
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/shop/shop_product_p.html?pno=35029&code=CUP08&bcode=&WT.svl=GIFTS%20AND%20SOUVENIRS&par=GIFTS&parsub
Quote from: T Fearon on January 24, 2008, 08:57:13 AM
Good to see London's top two clubs going head to head in this year's Carling Cup Final. Also I have no doubt that neither's players will disgrace the game or the occasion by fighting amongst each other should their opponents gain a two or three goal advantage ;D
Pos. Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Man Utd 23 17 3 3 46 11 35 54
2 Arsenal 23 16 6 1 46 17 29 54 ;D
3 Chelsea 23 15 5 3 36 16 20 50 4 Everton 23 13 3 7 40 23 17 42
5 Liverpool 22 10 10 2 37 16 21 40
6 Aston Villa 23 11 7 5 42 30 12 40
7 Man City 23 11 7 5 30 24 6 40
8 Portsmouth 23 10 7 6 34 23 11 37
9 Blackburn 23 10 7 6 31 30 1 37
10 West Ham 22 9 6 7 28 21 7 33 11 Tottenham 23 7 6 10 44 40 4 27 12 Newcastle 23 7 6 10 27 39 -12 27
13 Middlesbro 23 5 7 11 20 37 -17 22
14 Reading 23 6 4 13 30 49 -19 22
15 Bolton 23 5 6 12 24 34 -10 21
16 Birmingham 23 5 5 13 23 34 -11 20
17 Wigan 23 5 5 13 23 39 -16 20
18 Sunderland 23 5 5 13 22 42 -20 20
19 Fulham 23 2 9 12 23 42 -19 15 20 Derby 23 1 4 18 11 50 -39 7
Not that I ever claimed Spurs to be in the top two in London, not as blinkered as that, but whatever about that I'd expect Spurs, with a good run-in interms of opposition, to catch up on the teams above them like W*** H** and Blackburn, unlikely to get up in contention with City/Villa etc though. And I suspect the Gooners will drop another place before the season's out. And be trophyless again.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 24, 2008, 03:21:48 PM
releasing a DVD of the game the other night
what mugs would buy this?
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/shop/shop_product_p.html?pno=35029&code=CUP08&bcode=&WT.svl=GIFTS%20AND%20SOUVENIRS&par=GIFTS&parsub
Now that is just sad....If i had all the DVD'S from every game Arsenal have beaten Spuds since wenger took over i'd be out a fortune.....
One win and everythings rosy?
QuoteAnd be trophyless again
Damn, have to take notice off that because if one thing a Spuds fan knows something about it's not winning trophies 8)
Quote from: Owenmoresider on January 24, 2008, 06:40:36 PM
Not that I ever claimed Spurs to be in the top two in London, not as blinkered as that, but whatever about that I'd expect Spurs, with a good run-in interms of opposition, to catch up on the teams above them like W*** H** and Blackburn, unlikely to get up in contention with City/Villa etc though. And I suspect the Gooners will drop another place before the season's out. And be trophyless again.
What an acheivement that will be - finishing above The Mighty Blackburn Rovers, how will they get the 10 point turn around then?
Wasnt this the team that was going to break the top four in August - strange, very strange!
Spurs in talks with Woodgate :o
I think spurs have enough problems keeping players fit without buying someone as injury prone as him.
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on January 25, 2008, 10:44:46 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on January 24, 2008, 06:40:36 PM
Not that I ever claimed Spurs to be in the top two in London, not as blinkered as that, but whatever about that I'd expect Spurs, with a good run-in interms of opposition, to catch up on the teams above them like W*** H** and Blackburn, unlikely to get up in contention with City/Villa etc though. And I suspect the Gooners will drop another place before the season's out. And be trophyless again.
What an acheivement that will be - finishing above The Mighty Blackburn Rovers, how will they get the 10 point turn around then?
Wasnt this the team that was going to break the top four in August - strange, very strange!
Well Blackburn haven't been terribly consistent for the last while. Bear in mind last year Spurs were about mid-table at the half way stage, having not had a great start, and put in a great run of run of form in the spring to claim 5th, albeit a slightly distant 5th. The record under Ramos is quite good, plus after the next few weeks we'll have United, Arsenal and Chelsea out of the way as regards the league, so it's possible they could repeat last season. however 4th-7th are out of reach I would think. So the cups take on even more importance as a result. Doesn't help any team chasing 4th or 5th, if they are stuck in the drop zone by the end of October, with just the one win to their credit. At least that much is behind us now.
A trip to OT on Sunday, never an easy task, but with the boost from the Gooners game who knows? Would be content if they take them back to the Lane though.
Breaking news on Sky Sports they are looking to sign Caros Puyol, why when they have Michael Dawson?
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 24, 2008, 03:21:48 PM
releasing a DVD of the game the other night
what mugs would buy this?
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/shop/shop_product_p.html?pno=35029&code=CUP08&bcode=&WT.svl=GIFTS%20AND%20SOUVENIRS&par=GIFTS&parsub
I know one, and he too gets out the going to wembley vinyl and plays it full tilt.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa237/stearmaster/n728350139_833900_716.jpg)
Keano!!! 1-0 up at OT, 24 mins gone.
Haven't won at OT since 1989, incidentally. Whether that changes today, time will tell.
Time is telling indeed, Tevez makes it 1-1.
one thing to come out of todays match was spurs excellent strength in depth in the goalkeeping department
Good game I thought. But I thought Utd were the better team and deserved to win. If only Spurs hadn't the disastrous start to the season anything could be possible.
Three defensive errors, or a rush of blood in Dawson's case. But United deserved it in the end. Still two cups to chase yet, so all is not lost.
Good to see everything is back to normal after spurs midweek triumph over Arsenal reserves - what a shame.....
Couldn't really care about yesterday. Will gladly settle for the Carling Cup and UEFA Cup this year. Having said that we should have beat the legolanders yesterday, if Jenas hadn't lost his bottle twice and we hadn't gifted three goals. We were the better team over the 90 minutes anyway
Good performance from OHara and thought Gunter looked decent when he came on as well
Yea Tony of course yous were the best team ::) ::)
legolanders??
So your saying you would rather win the worthless cup than the FA CUP :D :D
QuoteWill gladly settle for the Carling Cup and UEFA Cup this year
What's that Tony? The Mickey Mouse double?? ;)
Quote from: T Fearon on January 28, 2008, 04:30:54 PM
Couldn't really care about yesterday. Will gladly settle for the Carling Cup and UEFA Cup this year. Having said that we should have beat the legolanders yesterday, if Jenas hadn't lost his bottle twice and we hadn't gifted three goals. We were the better team over the 90 minutes anyway
Jesus you sound like Arsene Wenger, wake up.
All Spurs fans know that when we play at legoland :
we will not be awarded goals unless the ball is ten yards over the man ure goalline
Ronaldo will be awarded a penalty at some stage during the 90 minutes
Thats why the result was immaterial yesterday
:D :D :D :D so its got noting to do with yous being shit ???
What was the last trophy yous won tones?
Think George Graham won it.
Signing Jon Woodgate :o :o
Have Tottenham not learned from Anderton
A sick note if ever I seen one
QuoteGood performance from OHara
I liked him alright - he's got to be one of us, get the granny's passport asap.
His ma is from the north, but he is over 21 and has played for the England youth set up so he wont be eligible for us.
Quote from: full back on January 29, 2008, 01:08:26 PM
Signing Jon Woodgate :o :o
Have Tottenham not learned from Anderton
A sick note if ever I seen one
Although he has had his problems with a persistent left hamstring injury (like. e.g. Bryan Robson with his dislocated shoulder), Anderton's tendency to injury is somewhat exagerrated, as demonstrated by the fact that he's just coming up to his 500th senior appearance, most of them at the top level, including 30 England caps.
In fact, in his spell at Tottenham from 1992 - 2004, Anderton played 305 times. Compare that with that other well-known weak and sickly character, Roy Keane, who managed barely more appearances for Man Utd over virtually the same period (326 between 1993 - 2005).
That said, I'm surprised at Spurs taking a chance on Woodgate, esp for so much money and considering he's 28 i.e. little sell-on value. I can only assume Ramos must have been somehow impressed by him during his "long weekend" with Real Madrid and his using his present high standing at the club to insist the Board sign Woodgate?
Question for Spurs fans - I only realised recently that the home kit is all white! When was the dark shorts as part of the home kit dropped?
Not sure to be honest with you, thought it may have had something to do with marking the 125 years of the club, along with the white-blue halved number. May be wrong, but TF may confirm that. It's always been that way for the European games, though you would be forgiven for not knowing that. ;)
I see Hutton has signed for the spuds
Decent signing for them, from one of if not the best defender in Scotland IMO
Wonder what Fearon will make of him?
with woodgate and hutton coming in (along with Chris Gunter) will spurs be looking to get rid of anyone at the back?
Quote from: nifan on January 30, 2008, 02:19:30 PM
with woodgate and hutton coming in (along with Chris Gunter) will spurs be looking to get rid of anyone at the back?
A mass cull would be more appropriate
Hutton is a good player, just a bit ropey at defense! Good at going forward though.
Spuds were robbed paying 9 million for him though!
Chimbonda would be on his way - you would think
Hutton is a good signing for Spurs and a good signing for Celtic as well ;D
Can't wait to see the dream back four. Hutton, King, Woodgate or Dawson, Bale
Dream?
Spuds still not out of relegation trouble.
Quote from: Evil Genius on January 29, 2008, 01:47:04 PM
Although he has had his problems with a persistent left hamstring injury (like. e.g. Bryan Robson with his dislocated shoulder), Anderton's tendency to injury is somewhat exagerrated, as demonstrated by the fact that he's just coming up to his 500th senior appearance, most of them at the top level, including 30 England caps.
Thought he was retired, who is he with now EG?
Anderton is playing for a club in the 2nd or 3rd division I think.
Spurs only started to play in all white recently. I think Juande has a Real Madrid fetish of some sorts and thats the reason. I prefer the blue shorts and socks myself, being the old traditionalist that I am. Incidentally when are they going to auction those shirts the players wore in the 125 match with Villa as promised?
If you're a real traditionalist, this'd be your kit:
(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Tottenham_Hotspur/images/tottenham_hotspur_1882-1884.gif)
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on January 24, 2008, 07:48:20 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 24, 2008, 03:21:48 PM
releasing a DVD of the game the other night
what mugs would buy this?
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/shop/shop_product_p.html?pno=35029&code=CUP08&bcode=&WT.svl=GIFTS%20AND%20SOUVENIRS&par=GIFTS&parsub
Now that is just sad....If i had all the DVD'S from every game Arsenal have beaten Spuds since wenger took over i'd be out a fortune.....
One win and everythings rosy?
Spuds really are releasing a DVD to celebrate last week's
game.............no doubt followed by bed-spreads, lamp-shades, toe-nail
clippers etc... to continue the moment where football changed forever !!!!!
Arsenal and their fans can do nothing in comparison to ridicule them as a wannabe big club...............
in fairness Spuds are the biggest club on White Hart Lane............
by the way Sunderland closed the gap to four points the other night !!!
Defoe off to Pompey as the tranfser window closes. Not sure of the fee.
Elsewhere, Gardner and Stalteri are loaned to Fulham and Everton. And Gilberto joins from Hertha Berlin.
We have reached agreement with Portsmouth for the transfer of Jermain Defoe.
Jermain joined us from West Ham United in the January transfer window of 2004 and went on to score 64 goals in 177 appearances for the Club.
The Club has reluctantly agreed the transfer of Jermain in light of there being less than 18 months left on his contract.
We wish him all the best for the future.
If its not chalking off legitimate goals, or giving penalties to Portuguese divers, its referees adding on 5 minutes extra until Man Ure equalise >:(
They scored in the 93rd minute
But i do admit Spurs were unlucky today,They played great stuff and defended like their lifes depended on it..
But i wouldn't be blaming the Ref...Spurs had enough chances to have been 2 or 3 up
Be careful Tony. That's a personnal attack on the referee - you could get a ban under The Rules.
:'( :'( :'( :'( DRY THEM TONES ;)
Spurs have got to be the most spineless team in the league
What about the new rules about starting stupid threads ::) ::)
Yes ban him
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2008, 06:33:57 PM
If its not chalking off legitimate goals, or giving penalties to Portuguese divers, its referees adding on 5 minutes extra until Man Ure equalise >:(
Tony
there was 3 minutes added time, this included 4 subs, then add on the time it took Keaneto leave the field, plus the 30 seconds for the substitution and there should have been another minute, time for us to win the game.
i see master rooney must be taking the diving classes at united now since ronaldo has kicked the habit somewhat
I see liverpool are just shit ;D ;D
93rd minute? Jaysus Its rarely that you will find a premier league game with less that 3 minutes injury time.
Big deal.
I remember cheering on Sheffield Wednesday against united when Steve Bruce scored a 97th minute winner!!
Quote from: his holiness nb on February 03, 2008, 11:00:40 AM
93rd minute? Jaysus Its rarely that you will find a premier league game with less that 3 minutes injury time.
Big deal.
I remember cheering on Sheffield Wednesday against united when Steve Bruce scored a 97th minute winner!!
Had he not equalised in injury time to?
Quote from: Chrisowc on February 03, 2008, 11:28:39 AM
Quote from: his holiness nb on February 03, 2008, 11:00:40 AM
93rd minute? Jaysus Its rarely that you will find a premier league game with less that 3 minutes injury time.
Big deal.
I remember cheering on Sheffield Wednesday against united when Steve Bruce scored a 97th minute winner!!
Had he not equalised in injury time to?
Was either the last minute or the start of injury time.
Them were the glory days for the Owls!
You cannot complain when your opponents play to the whistle and you do not. If you want to blame anyone, try looking at the irish excuse for a striker who always bottles it in the big games.
No good scoring hat-tricks against cannon fodder when you fluff it when given the opportunity to win a game agaisnt the big 3.
Thnak god fergie had the good sense to pass on him when offered by wolves.
Quote from: his holiness nb on February 03, 2008, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Chrisowc on February 03, 2008, 11:28:39 AM
Quote from: his holiness nb on February 03, 2008, 11:00:40 AM
93rd minute? Jaysus Its rarely that you will find a premier league game with less that 3 minutes injury time.
Big deal.
I remember cheering on Sheffield Wednesday against united when Steve Bruce scored a 97th minute winner!!
Had he not equalised in injury time to?
Was either the last minute or the start of injury time.
Them were the glory days for the Owls!
Referee got injured that day.
(http://www.ave-it.net/Spurs%20priceless.jpg)
Quote from: Over the Bar on February 03, 2008, 04:23:29 PM
You cannot complain when your opponents play to the whistle and you do not. If you want to blame anyone, try looking at the irish excuse for a striker who always bottles it in the big games.
No good scoring hat-tricks against cannon fodder when you fluff it when given the opportunity to win a game agaisnt the big 3.
Thnak god fergie had the good sense to pass on him when offered by wolves.
If it means that much you could have at least used a capital G ;D
The Sunday Times summed it up perfectly today - Tevez Spares United's Blushes".
QuoteThe Sunday Times summed it up perfectly today - Tevez Spares United's Blushes.
Absolute crap. What shame would there be for United or anyone else getting beat 1-0 at WHL by a Spurs team on top of their game and playing their best football for 20 years? That headline is what you'd expect if United rescued a point at Derby or Sunderland and is an insult to Ramos.
You are a bad looser Ferron :D :D A sign of a good team when they never say die and claim a point at that stage of the game. ;)
I see the mods are doing their work well anyway.
Bale's out for the rest of the season, see below:
Gareth Bale has had his cast removed today as he continues his recovery from a sprained ligament in his right foot.
The 18-year-old suffered the injury in our Premier League match against Birmingham City in December and although the Wales international is making good progress he is expected to be out for the remainder of the campaign.
"Gareth's injury was reviewed today and although the surgeon was happy with the results of the X-rays he does not anticipate Gareth being able to play any further part in this season," said Sporting Director Damien Comolli.
"We are all disappointed for Gareth, but he is still very young and his long-term fitness is our priority."
how apt.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7244228.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7244228.stm)
Spurs team 'to lose' more weight
The Tottenham squad are still trying to lose weight after they were found to be 100kgs too heavy when Juande Ramos took over as manager in October. Spurs fitness coach Marcos Alvarez told Spanish radio station Cadena SER: "Taking into account the players' size, the team was basically 100kg over.
"We realised straight away that the team was carrying excess baggage.
"They have now lost between 40 and 50kg. Getting the rest off is the most difficult part."
When Ramos joined Tottenham in October the club were in the relegation zone but have moved up to 11th in the Premier League.
They are also pursuing silverware on two fronts.
They play Slavia Prague in the Uefa Cup on Thursday and have also reached the Carling Cup final where they play Chelsea on 24 February.
Alvarez, who moved to England as part of Ramos's backroom staff, added that he instigated a fitness programme immediately upon his arrival at the club.
"I immediately talked to Tottenham and we set the wheels in motion to change things," he added. "We have turned a lot of fat into muscle."
Ramos has won the Uefa Cup for the last two seasons, both victories coming with former club Sevilla.
Quote from: An Fear Rua on February 14, 2008, 10:49:50 AM
they were found to be 100kgs too heavy
A bit like some of the supporters ;)
Think I'm not too bad myself, can't speak for others. That situation had to be sorted out really.
Good result tonight - save for Cerny's blunder, would be very comfortable only for that, could easily have given away a second towards the end. Still a win's a win.
Great result last night for the planet's 11th richest club ( glad I didn't waste my money on that share investment ;D). The Robster must be a serious contender for Footballer of the Year and is there a better striking partnership in Europe than himself and Berbatov?
PS Stepping up the hunt for a ticket for Sunday week, moving into high political circles in my attempts
Slavia must be glad to have found their level after their 7-0 thrashing at Arsenal, 5th richest club in the world, in the Champions' League.
Quote from: ONeill on February 15, 2008, 10:43:52 AM
Slavia must be glad to have found their level after their 7-0 thrashing at Arsenal, 5th richest club in the world, in the Champions' League.
Did Arsenal not draw with them in the champions league in the corresponding fixture?
Job done hopefully. O'Hara shot defleted in, 1-0 to Spurs, Slavia need two now.
One all now. What a ball in by the winger
Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 21, 2008, 08:01:35 PM
Job done hopefully. O'Hara shot defleted in, 1-0 to Spurs, Slavia need two now.
well there half way there!!
Half way me hole. No opportunity for you to revive that thread after that.
In all seriousness though - poor display to put it mildly, Slavia unlucky not to get another. Better sort it out for Sunday.
Spurs v PSV - Def not one for the faint hearted!!!! PPV outside the ground.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 21, 2008, 09:39:56 PM
Half way me hole. No opportunity for you to revive that thread after that.
In all seriousness though - poor display to put it mildly, Slavia unlucky not to get another. Better sort it out for Sunday.
neeed to play a lot better that this as you sadi, but was one eye on the Final on Sunday?
Quote from: Square Ball on February 21, 2008, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on February 21, 2008, 09:39:56 PM
Half way me hole. No opportunity for you to revive that thread after that.
In all seriousness though - poor display to put it mildly, Slavia unlucky not to get another. Better sort it out for Sunday.
neeed to play a lot better that this as you sadi, but was one eye on the Final on Sunday?
I would suspect it was that, the early goal probably made it worse, allowed a sense of complacency to set in, I reckoned that was it when the goal went in, and that probably crept into their minds too. Leaving Keane and Jenas on the bench too didn't help, but they'll be certs for Sunday. Robinson? Hard to know whether he's redeemed himself, bar an excellent save from that free late on, they were cutting through with ease by then.
PSV next, probably (bar Bayern) the toughest draw in it. No complacency needed for that one anyway.
BTW kudos to the Racing Post, apparently had tipped O'Hara to score first, at 25/1. Nice work if you got on it. :-\
Job done and if we beat PSV we'll be in the final.
On a sadder note I still haven't got a ticket for Sunday yet :'(
Quote from: T Fearon on February 22, 2008, 08:58:58 AM
Job done and if we beat PSV we'll be in the final.
So no need to bother with Quarter- and Semi-FinALS, then?
I should have thought 14 of these teams might object:
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/news/kind=1/newsid=662078.html
Quote from: T Fearon on February 22, 2008, 08:58:58 AM
Job done and if we beat PSV we'll be in the final.
On a sadder note I still haven't got a ticket for Sunday yet :'(
No competitions who still need to declare the results?
Quote from: T Fearon on February 22, 2008, 08:58:58 AM
Job done and if we beat PSV we'll be in the final.
On a sadder note I still haven't got a ticket for Sunday yet :'(
Well at least you will see most of it Tony, we're playing in the league opener at 2:30, so I'll only see the second half of it. Same thing the last time, Sligo and Mayo played the same day.
Film 4 Sunday 1.10am
Those Glory Glory Days 1983 PG
'The story of 4 schoolgirls who fall in love with Spurs as the mighty Tottenham embark on their record-breaking double season.'
(Includes a cameo role for Danny Blanchflower)
Although there are no viewer ratings anywhere on the net, I am confident that this is a timeless classic ;D
There's a lot of razzamataz about winning soccer's equivalent of the Tommy Murphy Cup.
"A dream come through, ever since I was a little boy" says Robbie Keane.
Well done to Spurs today...they deserved the win... maybe its the start of a new era although we have had a few false dawns before.
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2008, 05:48:10 PM
There's a lot of razzamataz about winning soccer's equivalent of the Tommy Murphy Cup.
"A dream come through, ever since I was a little boy" says Robbie Keane.
Had to laugh when i heard that....he really is a k**b
Quote from: new devil on February 24, 2008, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2008, 05:48:10 PM
There's a lot of razzamataz about winning soccer's equivalent of the Tommy Murphy Cup.
"A dream come through, ever since I was a little boy" says Robbie Keane.
Had to laugh when i heard that....he really is a k**b
So he is a knob because since he was a young boy he has dreamed of winning a trophy at Wembley and finally achieved that today
I struggle to understand how this makes him a knob ???
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/jyarden/March/1-60.jpg)
COYS ;D ;D ;D
Hopefully it's only the beginnng. UEFA Cup spot secured for 2008/09 now, here's hoping it will be as holders, but a tough task lies ahead.
A rather fortunate winner, but was ultimately deserved. Woodgate is proving to be an inspired signing, though it remains to be seen how much himself and King can keep injury-free, but the defensive frailties are being gradually eroded. Robbo continues to redeem himself too, made a good save from Kalou in ET. Keane wasn't great in the 2nd half (missed the first), Zokora was doing his best not to win it for us (70 games and no goals, you seen why!), and Chimbonda - toys, pram etc. Shameful. and where did the ref get all that injury time in ET from? Not that it stopped Drogba complaining as usual.
LL - Never mind Main Street and the like, that cheapshot shite doesn't matter.
Mind you....
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2mgrtp4.jpg)
Tottenham came from a goal down to beat Chelsea at Wembley and win the Carling Cup after extra-time.
Jonathan Woodgate won it when Petr Cech disastrously punched the ball on to his head from Jermaine Jenas's free-kick.
Pascal Chimbonda had hit the bar for Spurs, before Didier Drogba's 20-yard free-kick gave Chelsea the lead with Paul Robinson badly out of position.
Spurs levelled when Wayne Bridge handled in the box and Dimitar Berbatov coolly rolled in the resulting penalty.
Spurs' success - their fourth League Cup win and first since 1999, their last major trophy - means their boss Juande Ramos has still never lost a cup final as a manager after five triumphs in Spain with Sevilla.
It ends Chelsea's quadruple hopes in Avram Grant's first season as Blues boss, though they are still in the hunt for the Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup.
But Spurs set their stall out early on and began in a positive fashion in the first League Cup final at the new Wembley.
With only 30 seconds on the clock Juliano Beletti inexplicably gave the ball away to Robbie Keane, the striker racing through and seeing his 20-yard drive deflected wide by John Terry.
Twice in a minute Spurs could have gone in front, first Chimbonda heading a corner on to the bar and then Berbatov heading Keane's cross wide, before Chelsea came back into it.
After Frank Lampard shot off-target and Drogba curled a 25-yard free-kick high and wide, the Blues made a decisive breakthrough.
Didier Zokora tripped Drogba 20 yards out and the Ivorian dusted himself down to curl the resulting free-kick into the bottom left-hand side of Robinson's goal.
Robinson - only recalled to the Spurs team on Thursday for their Uefa Cup tie after a month on the sidelines - was in completely the wrong position and remained rooted to his spot as the ball flew past him.
Spurs tried an immediate reply, but Keane's shot was straight at Cech and then Berbatov slipped as Keane attempted to send him through on goal.
Chelsea, a side well-drilled in the art of defending a one-goal lead, rarely looked like surrendering their advantage - until, halfway through the second half, calamity struck.
Having struggled to make much headway against the Chelsea defence Spurs were gifted a penalty, Bridge bizarrely knocking the ball away with his left hand as he tussled with Aaron Lennon.
Berbatov, keeping his cool, waited for Cech to go left before he rolled the ball into the other side of the goal.
Suddenly Spurs were in the ascendancy and Zokora raced through, only for his first shot to hit Cech on the head and his second slice wide, before Berbatov stung Cech's palms with a fierce drive.
They only had to wait four minutes of extra-time to take a lead they would not relinquish, Cech punching a Jenas free-kick on to Woodgate's head and the ball trickling into an empty net.
Chelsea had to attack but the outstanding Woodgate and Ledley King stood firm, Blues substitute Salomon Kalou and Joe Cole both seeing shots saved by Robinson, but they were nothing more than half-chances.
Spurs deservedly hung on for a famous win and denied their London rivals back-to-back Carling Cup victories in the process.
Tottenham:
Robinson, Hutton, Woodgate, King, Chimbonda (Huddlestone 61), Lennon, Jenas, Zokora, Malbranque (Tainio 75), Berbatov, Keane (Kaboul 102).
Subs Not Used: Cerny, Bent.
Booked: Zokora, Tainio, Lennon, Jenas.
Goals: Berbatov 70 pen, Woodgate 94.
Chelsea:
Cech, Belletti, Carvalho, Terry, Bridge, Wright-Phillips (Kalou 72), Essien (Ballack 88), Lampard, Obi (Joe Cole 98), Anelka, Drogba.
Subs Not Used: Cudicini, Alex.
Booked: Obi, Carvalho.
Goals: Drogba 39.
Att: 87,660.
Ref: Mark Halsey (Lancashire).
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 24, 2008, 06:12:45 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 24, 2008, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2008, 05:48:10 PM
There's a lot of razzamataz about winning soccer's equivalent of the Tommy Murphy Cup.
"A dream come through, ever since I was a little boy" says Robbie Keane.
Had to laugh when i heard that....he really is a k**b
So he is a knob because since he was a young boy he has dreamed of winning a trophy at Wembley and finally achieved that today
I struggle to understand how this makes him a knob ???
No not because of what he said...just in general
I'm no Spurs fan but you have to let them enjoy their moment of glory. Great to see Robbie Keane lift the trophy. Were Man U people not suggesting that everyone from Ireland should have supported their team when Roy Keane was captain in the European cup final as it would be great to see an Irishman lift the trophy, Surely the same rule should apply here.
Yes, well done Spuds - by far the superior team during the game. Also, it looks like the North London derby is going to be ding-dust again after years of stagnation - that can only be good. Ramos seems to be the real deal and will probably be able to attract top class players from now on. Winning silverware was probably crucial in keeping Berbatov this summer. Chelsea are slowly on the wane with Grant. I know his results have been excellent in general, but you can see in their play. Unless there are wholesale changes in the summer, this Chelsea outfit will not be challenging for the title next year.
Glad Arsenal don't have to play Spurs again in the league this year; they're the form side. Unfortunately, Utd also have played them twice. One think that struck me today when I looked at both sets of players and fans - I've never seen so many cvnts in the one place at the same time before.
Congratulations to the Spuds indeed. Only seen parts of the game, but they seemed to be in complete control in the parts I've seen. Well done.
* (Don't tell Tony I said that)
Quote from: THE MIGHTY QUINN on February 24, 2008, 08:11:19 PM
I'm no Spurs fan but you have to let them enjoy their moment of glory. Great to see Robbie Keane lift the trophy. Were Man U people not suggesting that everyone from Ireland should have supported their team when Roy Keane was captain in the European cup final as it would be great to see an Irishman lift the trophy, Surely the same rule should apply here.
I was supporting spurs today...just think Robbie Keane's a p***k
Quote from: new devil on February 24, 2008, 08:37:39 PM
Quote from: THE MIGHTY QUINN on February 24, 2008, 08:11:19 PM
I'm no Spurs fan but you have to let them enjoy their moment of glory. Great to see Robbie Keane lift the trophy. Were Man U people not suggesting that everyone from Ireland should have supported their team when Roy Keane was captain in the European cup final as it would be great to see an Irishman lift the trophy, Surely the same rule should apply here.
I was supporting spurs today...just think Robbie Keane's a p***k
And have you have met him and spoke to him enough times to form this opinion ???
Im sure he'd think you were a p***k too if he knew you :D
No have never met him or spoke to him its only my opinion
Mods LL called me a p***k :'( :'(
Quote from: new devil on February 24, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
No have never met him or spoke to him its only my opinion
Mods LL called me a p***k :'( :'(
devil i dont think the mods can act if an allegation is true . . . . Anyway fair fucks to the spuds,they join such luminaries as middlesborough,leicester city etc as winners of the league cup
It's a bit like Down winning the McKenna Cup....no big deal... :-\
Quote from: 5 Sams on February 24, 2008, 10:43:05 PM
It's a bit like Down winning the McKenna Cup....no big deal... :-\
Tell that to Mickey Harte :-[
Quote from: ONeill on February 24, 2008, 08:25:00 PM
Yes, well done Spuds - by far the superior team during the game. Also, it looks like the North London derby is going to be ding-dust again after years of stagnation - that can only be good. Ramos seems to be the real deal and will probably be able to attract top class players from now on. Winning silverware was probably crucial in keeping Berbatov this summer. Chelsea are slowly on the wane with Grant. I know his results have been excellent in general, but you can see in their play. Unless there are wholesale changes in the summer, this Chelsea outfit will not be challenging for the title next year.
Glad Arsenal don't have to play Spurs again in the league this year; they're the form side. Unfortunately, Utd also have played them twice. One think that struck me today when I looked at both sets of players and fans - I've never seen so many cvnts in the one place at the same time before.
You have never been to a Derry V Down championship game then. :P
Quote from: hardstation on February 24, 2008, 11:08:18 PM
Not with 87,660 people in attendance.
Eh, not sure that everyone in atendance was a cnut!
Quote from: hardstation on February 24, 2008, 11:18:45 PM
Alright then, 87,658.
you have a very low opinion of spuds/ arse supporters obviously.
Everyone Stew. Everyone. Mark Halsey, Natasha Marsh, Brian Mawhinney, Ricky Villa, the whole shebang.
Quote from: Minder on February 24, 2008, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 24, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
No have never met him or spoke to him its only my opinion
Mods LL called me a p***k :'( :'(
devil i dont think the mods can act if an allegation is true . . . . Anyway fair fucks to the spuds,they join such luminaries as middlesborough,leicester city etc as winners of the league cup
2003 - Liverpool beat United
2005 - Chelsea beat Liverpool
2006 - United beat Wigan (wouldn't be hard that)
2007 - Chelsea beat Arsenal
Anything to add, or do you want to continue referring back to winners from the late 90's? (Boro's win admittedly an exception to recent rules)
And for the record, that's League Cup no. 4 now, along with wins in 1971, 73 and 99.
A great victory that should have been wrapped up in 90 minutes and one of the best League Cup Finals in recent years far better than the non events featuring the Goons and Man Ure which were mor like Chess games.
However even George Graham won the League Cup with Spurs,so it will all be irrelevant if it doesn't lead to bigger and better things.
The Crossmaglen V St Vincents S/F was a better and more exciting game. I delayed watching the League Cup Final by 30 mins to watch that game.
Chelsea were way too negative. Keane looks sharp and very fit. When he went off, I lost interest in the game and speeded up my paused recording to see who won.
Woodgate is a great signing for Spurs, he is such an intelligent defender. They could do with someone with similar intelligence in midfield. They sold their both their midfield playmakers, Carrick and Reid. Berbatov does his best work in the so called hole.
Well done the Spurs....best team won.
I'll try and comment more some time, but feck am I hungover! :-\
Norf Tyrone thats two cup finals we've beaten you in. 1967 FA Cup Final (day I made my first communion and the day I became a Spurs fan, after watching it in black and white) and yesterday!
Anyone see the three legends sitting together, Jennings, Peters and Mullery? Borough back memories of 71 and 73
COME ON YOU SPURS ;D
Best team one and all that jazz.. Lads have said it here already. Whats different about this one is that it holds the promise of even better days to come. The 'big four' will have to start taking notice that this team and this man 'Juan - de at a time sweet Jesus' Are the real deal
Now I remember why I supported Spurs as a boy...! Flair and attacking football.. Its good to see some steel back in the mix. They sorely missed it.
Good to see all the Spurs fans coming out of the woodwork but where have you all been before yesterday?
As I said its a start but it must be built on. Success in this season's UEFA Cup would be even better given the quality of some of the teams left
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2008, 01:04:33 PM
Good to see all the Spurs fans coming out of the woodwork but where have you all been before yesterday?
As I said its a start but it must be built on. Success in this season's UEFA Cup would be even better given the quality of some of the teams left
;D ;D ;D
;D the spuds are fried
Ah well was a good effort. PSV are a decent side lets not forget they knocked out Arsenal in last years Champions League. How come Lennon or Malbranque didnt step up for a penalty instead of Chimbonda?
Jenas's penalty was pathetic. You only take a 2 step run up if you can put it in the top corner like Del Piero,
Quote from: tyroneboi on March 12, 2008, 10:46:42 PM
Ah well was a good effort. PSV are a decent side lets not forget they knocked out Arsenal in last years Champions League.
Almost a completely different side.
v Arsenal - Gomes, Salcido, Alex, Feher, Sun, Culina, Mendez (Vayrynen 90), Simons, Farfan (Addo 89), Cocu, Kone .
v Spuds - Gomes, Kromkamp, Marcellis, Salcido, Alcides, Mendez (Bakkal 112), Simons, Culina, Afellay (Dzsudzsak 82), Koevermans (Lazovic 72), Farfan.
Did Chimbonda just complete his carling cup final sub huff?
We shouldnt be too hard on Chimbonda because i reckon he was trying to hit the corner flag with his penalty and it was a fair effort in that regard......
Quote from: Minder on March 13, 2008, 08:30:43 AM
We shouldnt be too hard on Chimbonda because i reckon he was trying to hit the corner flag with his penalty and it was a fair effort in that regard......
Its a pity that Defoe wasn't with us last night, he would have made a real difference. Darren Bent is way off pace, confidence and ability to play at this level.
Sick sick sick >:( Had a bet on for Spurs to win 2-0 with Berbatov to score 1st goal at 50/1 :'(
Was hoping the spirit of 1984 Tony Parkes et al would see us through the penalty shoot out but knew deep down we hadn't enough decent penalty takers on the field at the end of extra time. Jenas more to blame than Chimbonda. Watch Juande clear out the dross now in preparation for nexzt year.
Will be at the Portsmouth game next Saturday to welcome out former heroes Campbell, Defoe, Mendes etc
Great effort by the chaps last nite. pity they couldn keep our season really alive! Out of last nites startin 11 i would expect chimbonda, robbo, lee and malbranque to be shown the door at the end of the season.
bent is on thin ice but i would give him to jan 09. Think he has great potential for the spurs. WORKED the keeper several times last nit.
Hopefully we can keep berbatov, which i think we will.
Really worried bout kings injury rumour is that it will force him to retire hopefully not. The defence looks tight with him and woody init.
Robbo didnt get close to them penos last nite. The one he saved was a lucky save. He was divin too early all the time makin it easy for the psv attackers to place the ball. Hopefully SGE picks him up for a few pound!
Malbranque is a plodder and is a good championship player. always gives his best but desperately short on quality.
Chimbonda is good but after his carling final strop he will be out the door with a kick on the hole. Not blamin him for last nite though.
Lee is a useful squad player, no more no less.
Huddlestones delivery last night was terible at times but im a big fan. he really has improved this year along with jenas who can become as good as gerrard and mascherano at the pool scum.
Happy with Juande and Gus. very tactically aware and willing to go out and win matches and they try not to play too conservatively at times.
Agree with a lot of what you say, although we should have had the game wrapped up at the end of 90 mins last night.. Juande is a tactical genius and has done really well to rescue a season that was looking catastrophic in October. Winning a trophy and beating the Goons and Chelsea en route was a phenomenal achievemnet. Keeping Berbatov is the key though and with a few quality additions we can look forward to great times in the next few seasons.I expect the recent european experience to bear fruit big time next season
O'Hara has been the find of the season as well.
Quote from: Old Bill on March 13, 2008, 11:11:51 AM
Great effort by the chaps last nite. pity they couldn keep our season really alive! Out of last nites startin 11 i would expect chimbonda, robbo, lee and malbranque to be shown the door at the end of the season.
bent is on thin ice but i would give him to jan 09. Think he has great potential for the spurs. WORKED the keeper several times last nit.
Hopefully we can keep berbatov, which i think we will.
Really worried bout kings injury rumour is that it will force him to retire hopefully not. The defence looks tight with him and woody init.
Robbo didnt get close to them penos last nite. The one he saved was a lucky save. He was divin too early all the time makin it easy for the psv attackers to place the ball. Hopefully SGE picks him up for a few pound!
Malbranque is a plodder and is a good championship player. always gives his best but desperately short on quality.
Chimbonda is good but after his carling final strop he will be out the door with a kick on the hole. Not blamin him for last nite though.
Lee is a useful squad player, no more no less.
Huddlestones delivery last night was terible at times but im a big fan. he really has improved this year along with jenas who can become as good as gerrard and mascherano at the pool scum.Happy with Juande and Gus. very tactically aware and willing to go out and win matches and they try not to play too conservatively at times.
What planet are you on ? Gerrard and Mascherano are two totally different players and for the record Jenas is older than Mascherano........
QuoteKeeping Berbatov is the key though and with a few quality additions we can look forward to great times in the next few seasons
Yes, I can really see Spuds breaking in to the top 10 next year.
Quote from: Minder on March 13, 2008, 11:58:11 AM
What planet are you on ? Gerrard and Mascherano are two totally different players and for the record Jenas is older than Mascherano........
I would compare jenas with gerrard as he is the one that can make runs from deep and get on on the end of moves and score goals. Huddlestone is the one who like mascherano, can tackle, get his foot in and break up moves. although huddlestone has more football in his big toe than mascherano ever will have.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 13, 2008, 11:45:57 AM
O'Hara has been the find of the season as well.
O hara has done well yes. Credit must go to Ramos for pickin him out of the reserves and givin him the chance to play. Although he has lots more to do to cement his place in the side. Dean marney did well for a time as well and he in now playin for hull city. but o hara has the potential to do well at spurs.
Quote from: Old Bill on March 13, 2008, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 13, 2008, 11:58:11 AM
What planet are you on ? Gerrard and Mascherano are two totally different players and for the record Jenas is older than Mascherano........
I would compare jenas with gerrard as he is the one that can make runs from deep and get on on the end of moves and score goals. Huddlestone is the one who like mascherano, can tackle, get his foot in and break up moves. although huddlestone has more football in his big toe than mascherano ever will have.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 13, 2008, 11:45:57 AM
O'Hara has been the find of the season as well.
O hara has done well yes. Credit must go to Ramos for pickin him out of the reserves and givin him the chance to play. Although he has lots more to do to cement his place in the side. Dean marney did well for a time as well and he in now playin for hull city. but o hara has the potential to do well at spurs.
He would need to lose about 2 stone to be an effective player
He would need to lose about 2 stone to be an effective player
Minder by refering to huds weight you must agree with my comparsions above then do u
He has lost weight and has therefore pushed himself into Ramos plans as he was not part of them at the start of ramos reign. He is a big lad but i woulsn think he has much more weight to lose.
Quote from: Old Bill on March 13, 2008, 02:34:05 PM
He would need to lose about 2 stone to be an effective player
Minder by refering to huds weight you must agree with my comparsions above then do u
He has lost weight and has therefore pushed himself into Ramos plans as he was not part of them at the start of ramos reign. He is a big lad but i woulsn think he has much more weight to lose.
Old Bill....I would have Mascherano every time before Huddlestone, he is more tenacious, covers more ground, is more adept at breaking up play.
Quote from: Minder on March 13, 2008, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on March 13, 2008, 02:34:05 PM
He would need to lose about 2 stone to be an effective player
Minder by refering to huds weight you must agree with my comparsions above then do u
He has lost weight and has therefore pushed himself into Ramos plans as he was not part of them at the start of ramos reign. He is a big lad but i woulsn think he has much more weight to lose.
Old Bill....I would have Mascherano every time before Huddlestone, he is more tenacious, covers more ground, is more adept at breaking up play.
So would i at present but huddlestone CAN be as good as mascherano. mascherano is a world class defensive midfielder. I also believe hud can be a world class defensive midfielder also.
One-each early on in the Carling Cup final rematch, Woodgate levelling it after 12 mins. Keane starts despite the tantrum on Sunday.
2-1 to Chelski, Essien scorer.
4 - 4.
What a game!
Robbie saved the day.
the Pride of Manchester salutes the spuds!!
You will do well to see a better game of groundball this year than the one at WHL tonight. The two teams just went at it from start to finish. Chelsea were arguably the better side, but only for Chimbonda at one end and Cudinici at the other it could have finished 6-2 to Spurs. Lovely finish from Robbie too.
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 19, 2008, 09:59:14 PM
the Pride of Manchester salutes the spuds!!
That will keep them warm tonight......
Arsenal's title now.
QuoteArsenal's title now.
History shows that Arsenal only win the title when another team runs into difficulties.
Mmm, does that include the year they went unbeaten? Sure you could say that about every winner, every year. Utd only won last year cos West Ham were in a spot of diffs.
Fellas, be civial and take your arse-baiting onto the arsenal thread.
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 19, 2008, 10:11:12 PM
QuoteArsenal's title now.
History shows that Arsenal only win the title when another team runs into difficulties.
And Arsenal's form in the last few weeks has nothing to do with United pushing ahead. ::)
its not often i am pleased to see spurs getting a result but tonight................. ;D ;D
the only pity is it was not a win :'(
fair play to Ramos and spurs, never gave it up. Tis good to see a club like Tottenham heading in the right direction again.
Didn't see it but sounded like a cracker. Not winning may be disappointing, but having been 3-1 and then 4-3 down, and considering the league form v Chelsea, it's not a bad result. Not surprised that Chimbonda managed to feck it up, must flog him come the summer.
I hope Saturday's game is half as exciting! The second 4 all draw of the league this season at the Lane, the other was in the Villa game, which I was privileged to attend, when we retrieved a 4-1 deficit.
Great to fcuk up Chelsea's league bid after such a long poor run against them in recent years. Also with our Carling Cup victory and last season's league win over them, I reckon we've got them well and truly sussed. Only sorry that super mouth Mourinho wasn't in charge this season. Where's his team bus in front of goal now? :D
Quotesuper mouth Mourinho
Excuse me my name is Mr Pot, and you Mr Kettle are so black!
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A bizarre affair altogether. Portsmouth playing distinctly like Arsenal (ie 11 men behind the ball) and the weather alternating from snow and sleet to spring sunshine throughout the game. Still a good day all the same (I acquired a classy Wembley Spurs Carling Cup Final tee shirt for £9.99 only in Sport Scene in Carnaby Street on Saturday morning, and a nifty little hooded Spurs track suit top with my voucher in the Spurs shop prior to the game) and the right result in the end, although the goals were a long time coming. ;D
PS Most humourous chant of the day came after Robbie nearly made a mug out of David James by coming unseen from the byeline to almost nick the ball of James' toe and score. The Spurs supporters chanted at James "England, England's Number 4, England's number 4!" :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I thought the Pompey fans chanting - "Channel 5 - you're laughing a laugh/You won the league in Black and White" at the Spuds fans much wittier.
Quote from: ONeill on March 26, 2008, 09:51:12 AM
I thought the Pompey fans chanting - "Channel 5 - you're laughing a laugh/You won the league in Black and White" at the Spuds fans much wittier.
Tomorrow's headlines... ONeill in typo Shocker!
Quote from: T Fearon on March 26, 2008, 09:41:43 AM
(I acquired a classy Wembley Spurs Carling Cup Final tee shirt for £9.99 only in Sport Scene in Carnaby Street on Saturday morning...
They on sale already? Or is that your just your size?
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 26, 2008, 09:42:52 AM
Tony, I see you're back at work, do you not have a computer at home anymore?
I think a certain young lady may have the parental control set to maximum on the home computer TYP
Tony's official statement on the matter here
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vcPMKD8GFkI (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vcPMKD8GFkI)
where would robinson be in the spurs pecking order if james no 4...
Nothin match wit the toon this sun. What use all think? Good to hear Juande saying he wants to keep hold of berbatov. Great to see bent finally show somethin of what he is capable against portsmouth. I hear in some quarters that were linked wit robben and ronaldiniho with roobben being the most realistic option there by far! With defensive midfielders needed at spurs, what about gilberto silva from the gooners? On the keeper situ, any1 know hos far ben alnwick is away from robbo at the minute?
Keeping Berbatov is absolutely vital. I had an opportunity to watch at close hand his contribution last Saturday and the guy is amazing. Had a perfectly good goal disallowed and his first touch is superb. What puzzled me last Saturday was the abuse meted out to Malbranque, which started when his name was read out on the team sheet and continued with every touch of the ball. Sure he's not the best player ever to wear a Spurs jersey and he was diabolical against Seville last year, but whats the point in the constant abuse?
Also, Lennon has gone off the boil big time. His crossing last week was atrocious. Undoubtedly Woodgate has been a good acquisition, and the improvement in Dawson's confidence was noticeable as well. Can't see much of a future for Kaboul.
Another thing which struck me last week was the conditioning of the players. I have never seen a fitter more physically hones Spurs team. Zokora looks like a collossus.
We owe the Toon a good hiding as we've been on the wrong end of a few heavy defeates from the quarter since the mid 90s. With the pressure off I expect Spurs to collect three more points and plunge the magpies into further relegation trouble.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 28, 2008, 11:23:33 AMWhat puzzled me last Saturday was the abuse meted out to Malbranque, which started when his name was read out on the team sheet and continued with every touch of the ball. Sure he's not the best player ever to wear a Spurs jersey and he was diabolical against Seville last year, but whats the point in the constant abuse?
Wasn't at game but from watching spurs games on t.v are the fans not shouting steeeeeeeeed when he touches the ball. I though he was a fans favourite because he is a hard working player.
It sounded distinctly like booing to me.
I think you are wrong but u were there and not me.
spurs fans are unhappy wit steed due to his failure to take a penalty against psv when he had already scored 11 penalties in the premier during his time at fulham! fair point!
if there was a gate at WHL lennon would run out it. The lad is full of runnin but his crosses and distribution are diabolical!
hope the spurs can beat the magpies! i have never really recovered from that 7-somethin defeat in the late 90s!
There was also a 6-1 FA Cup replay defeat in 1999/2000, after we had slaughtered them at the Lane in the first match but only drew. Must be the only time a George Graham team conceded 6 goals ;D
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 28, 2008, 11:41:14 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 28, 2008, 11:23:33 AMWhat puzzled me last Saturday was the abuse meted out to Malbranque, which started when his name was read out on the team sheet and continued with every touch of the ball. Sure he's not the best player ever to wear a Spurs jersey and he was diabolical against Seville last year, but whats the point in the constant abuse?
Wasn't at game but from watching spurs games on t.v are the fans not shouting steeeeeeeeed when he touches the ball. I though he was a fans favourite because he is a hard working player.
I was at a corporate do at the eufa match there recently and like tony thought they were booing him. My host who goes every week gave me the same explanation as cavan4ever. Still it sounded like booing to me.
BTW the hospitality was near as bad as the match (Chillie con school dinners carne my arse)
Quote from: passedit on March 28, 2008, 12:31:15 PM
BTW the hospitality was near as bad as the match (Chillie con school dinners carne my arse)
What did you expect? A pork dinner ;)
Now now Full Back, no stereotypes here please.
Miserable frickers dissappeared the drink as well 15 mins before kick off and nowt then till after the final whistle. WTF ye'd need to be well tanked to watch thon shite.
wtf? beat 4 one today at home! whats going on? dont wanna watch MOTD2 now at all!
disaster! Ramos played 4 3 3 against keegans 4 3 3 ad keegan won. The 3 man midfield didn suit yesterday wit zokora and the hud seemingly all at sea! real bad day when robbo gets star man wit a 7 rating and he concedes 4 goals of which he was like a statue for 2! speakin of robbo, a source from inside WHL has told me that arsenal are interested in takin robbo he also said that the players shale uncontrollably when they see king ramos due to the uncertainity over their futures! 4 3 3 formation should be abandoned and never seen again at WHL!
Disappointing to say the least. conceding four goals at home to shite like Newcastle doesn't augur well for the future.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 31, 2008, 04:32:11 PM
Disappointing to say the least. conceding four goals at home to shite like Newcastle doesn't augur well for the future.
Newcastle showed the spuds up for what they are - a mid table team
Quote from: full back on March 31, 2008, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 31, 2008, 04:32:11 PM
Disappointing to say the least. conceding four goals at home to shite like Newcastle doesn't augur well for the future.
Newcastle showed the spuds up for what they are - a mid table team
ure right a mid table and a cup team on a good year is what we are at the minute. we are so frustratin at the min its beyond belief with lots of good attackin players but oh so few defensive quality players. the players mindsets at this stage of the season must be open to question wit recent heavy defeats to man city brum and the toon all after the carling success and the UEFA exit! great to see andy reid startin to show how good he is with sunderland. I would take a fit slim reid over steed and maybe even lennon at the min. imagine what ramos special diets would have done to reid. reid prob would have thought he was on hunger strike!
How many times have we conceded 4 at home this year? Chelsea, Villa and Newcastle >:( Shows where the problems lie and the truth is that were it not for the prowess of Berbatov and Keane respectively we would be in the midst of a relegation dogfight and no Carling Cup either. I shudder to think what will happen if Berba goes.
Juande will earn his corn this summer, only hope that he and not Comolli will have the final say in terms of player recruitment. Wasn't too enamoured with his tactics last Sunday. 3 strikers left us badly short in midfield.
The potential is there to be a top six club but it will take good management to achieve it
Just a matter of seeing out the season I guess. Unlikley to drop any place in the table, and W*** H** are a bit too far ahead at this stage. But regardless of the nothingness of the remainder of games, to ship four at home to Newcastle??? :o Hope Juande has a good shopping list ready come summer.
I don't think he needs much of a shopping list to be honest, apart from a goalkeeper. He should use the last 4 or 5 games to work out if the likes of O'Hara and Huddlestone are genuinely up to being first-teamers (I reckon both have a future), and to have a look at that Gunther fella. Gareth Bale will be a big plus for next season either way. Spurs don't have any weak players as such in their first 15-16 (apart from Robbo), they just lack consistency...partly because he doesn't know his first choice team or formation, partly because Premiership footballers are lazy bastards unless they really have something to drive towards - and since November Spurs have had nothing to drive for in the league.
Well good list as in quality, not quantity. No harm giving all the squad the chance to show their worth between now and the season's end.
all i needed was spurs to beat newcastle and i was 200 quid up on a nine game accumulator....
now i dislike them! also a blackburn fan will be at ewood sunday hope to see a rovers win...game is near meaningless now tho
Quote from: T Fearon on April 01, 2008, 11:02:32 AM
Shows where the problems lie and the truth is that were it not for the prowess of Berbatov and Keane respectively
What on earth does that mean?
i see king has been told to put his feet up for the rest of the season. just shows how were treating the run in!
Quotei see king has been told to put his feet up for the rest of the season. just shows how were treating the run in!
That's to ensure he passes his fitness test when he signs for Arsenal...
not likely. his name is not sol judas campbell. altho i believe robbo is for the emirates next season!
Quote from: Old Bill on April 03, 2008, 05:24:48 PM
not likely. his name is not sol judas campbell. altho i believe robbo is for the emirates next season!
More fool them, worst footwoark for a 'keeper I've ever seen. Leaves himself flat-footed in every game.
a good source in whl has told a friend of mine that robbo will be a gooner next year. well just have to wait and see!
Quote from: Old Bill on April 03, 2008, 07:32:24 PM
a good source in whl has told a friend of mine that robbo will be a gooner next year. well just have to wait and see!
I had heard that too.. 2 million being touted.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 03, 2008, 07:35:38 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on April 03, 2008, 07:32:24 PM
a good source in whl has told a friend of mine that robbo will be a gooner next year. well just have to wait and see!
I had heard that too.. 2 million being touted.
he is prob worth more than 2m but if ramos can get a good keeper in (not cerny) then good luck!
decent result at the weekend. ewood is not the easiest place to go to and get a point. spurs played very well in patches like they have all season! chimbonda caught badly out of place for rovers goal. i think he was runnin for the exit! lennon threatened well with the forwards doing well as usual. glad to see jenas back. will be glad to see the back of cerny. pure clown!
i was at ewood, dire game no-one did enuf to win it. ave to give it to spurs, i got a train back wit sum of there fans, a lively bunch!! bentley was, however, a class above yesterday
Quote from: mhacadoir on April 06, 2008, 09:26:35 PM
i was at ewood, dire game no-one did enuf to win it. ave to give it to spurs, i got a train back wit sum of there fans, a lively bunch!! bentley was, however, a class above yesterday
seen somewhere that ramos is going out on a limb to get bentley. unlikely but hope we could. he looked pretty good on football first! did ya think it was a peno?
Bentley is the flavour of the month now,he is just another in a long line of over rated English players. You could get a player twice as good for half the price on the continent
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2008, 09:38:25 PM
Bentley is the flavour of the month now,he is just another in a long line of over rated English players. You could get a player twice as good for half the price on the continent
hell be over priced anyway. well prob not get him. ure prob rite.
to be honest, when i saw it live i thought it was, but then again im gunna be biased! watched it on MOTD and im not sure, it could have ment either way. as with a lot of players, bentley will stand out at a team like rovers because most things will revolve around him - hard to know how he would fare at a bigger club. he has the talent.
Just want the season to end asap. I think Juande will be making big changes in the summer. Would like to see Fredi return
fantastic atmosphere at anfield last nite. can any people remember on what occasion there was a great atmosphere at WHL?
I WAS AT THE 5-3 match with united number of years back. for bout 40 mins in the 1st half and for part of the 2nd the place was electric. but then they beat us 5-3 and we all went home crying!
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1784_3399588,00.html
eh dont think so!
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I can vouch for the atmosphere during the 4-4 draw with Villa, as I was there that glorious night, which was a veritable mix of nostalgia, downright despair and sheer ecstasy. Last year's home win over Chelsea also springs to mind, as does the unforgettable derby demolition of the Goons in January. We do need a bigger stadium of course to generate an even greater atmosphere.
Whats the odds of Nick Barmby returning to the Lane will Hull next year.
Was on another Spurs discussion board a day or two ago, one of the users goes by the handle "Vinnie Sideways" :D :D
I believe Ledley King injured himself during that phot shoot and is out for app. 11 years.
Yes, we managed to beat Chelsea in a Cup Final without needing a penalty shoot out ;D
Good to see us getting a pile of dosh for 4 very average players from the Cork langer and it looks likely that we will prise a huge amount of cash from Man Ure and Liverpool, for Berbatov and Keane respectively (neither of whom will be a success at either club incidentally).
Let us hope that the money is used wisely as Juande rids out the failures and builds a side for the holy grail of the Champions League ;)
Quotefor the holy grail of the Champions League
Great choice of words. The odds on the Holy Grail being found is probably something similar to Spurs getting into the Champions League.
bump. Tony, no need for a different thread on each bit of news regarding Spurs.
Spurs will be top 3 this season. No doubt about that!
Randy Juande all the way!
Sorry Admin and thanks for not delivering the same fate upon me
as that which befell on GNevin. I am committed to responsible posting at all times these days ;D
Lads, is there any good way of getting Tickets for Spurs games? Are they usually sell outs? There's 4 of us heading to London on the 25th of October for the NFL game, and Spurs are at home to Bolton that day. Any help on tickets would be great...
Tony, OMS, no ideas on this?
(Sorry to prompt, but things slip off page 1 quite quickly around here :D)
There are 4 spurs supporters clubs listed for here. Cork, Waterford, Wexford and Dundalk. Type it into google and it the 1st link. These guys should be able to help you out.
Spurs generally sell out or close to for every game, but not until the days leading up. They stagger sale dates through different membership groups, from top members down to boys off the street like yourself.
Unless Spurs get off to a real flyer, Bolton tickets won't be that hard to come by. Getting 4 people together might be a problem, that's all, because as a non-member, you'll only have what's left after the members buy all their tickets together across the ground.
Go to http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/tickets/ticketinfo_dates.html for dates of when tickets are released.
https://eticketing.co.uk/tottenhamhotspur/default.aspx to actually buy tickets.
Cheers lads.
Spurs tickets are difficult enough to come by, regardless of form, and four might be stretching it. Watch the Spurs website, and even if say, on the Tuesday, its a "sell out", try again on Wednesday, Thursday etc,as returns very often come in. Good Luck!
Sure Tony, you must have a few freebies!! :D
(http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1054/berbwi6.jpg)
Berbatov and Keane are yesterday's men, Arshavin and his mate are the future ;D
Well Tony, is the pressure on Ramos yet?
Pressure is for tyres! Em,, The board having gone so far to get him will stand by him. I wouldnt be delighted with his signings so far. were very short up top and at full backs and central mid. However if the poor form continues for 6-10 matches then the board may have no choice.
If we get the two Russians we will be fine. Keane is not performing at Anfield, his game relies on pace and as he ages this will diminish. It was a good bit of business getting £18m for him, Getting £30m for Berbatov will be even better as he is lazy and will give about 10 good games a season.if you're lucky.
This time the pressure is all on Levy and Camolli, not so much Ramos
Doesnt matter how much money ye have Tony
If you continue to be as sh1te as you have for the last while no one in their right mind will want to join a team that has no chance of winning anything
The 5th best team in London at the minute
I agree, what is happening is shameful, but changing the manager (yet again) is not the answer. It is time for Camolli to go, what other major club operates with a Director of Football? The likes of Ferguson, Scolari, Wenger and Benitez wouldn't wear it.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 28, 2008, 11:23:33 AM
Keeping Berbatov is absolutely vital. I had an opportunity to watch at close hand his contribution last Saturday and the guy is amazing. Had a perfectly good goal disallowed and his first touch is superb. What puzzled me last Saturday was the abuse meted out to Malbranque, which started when his name was read out on the team sheet and continued with every touch of the ball. Sure he's not the best player ever to wear a Spurs jersey and he was diabolical against Seville last year, but whats the point in the constant abuse?
Have you changed your mind?? ;D ;D
No, you are still a Monaghan twat! ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on August 28, 2008, 12:46:07 PM
I agree, what is happening is shameful, but changing the manager (yet again) is not the answer. It is time for Camolli to go, what other major club operates with a Director of Football? The likes of Ferguson, Scolari, Wenger and Benitez wouldn't wear it.
Yes this goes without saying tony. comolli out. Since he arrived in place of Frank arnesen. Spurs has become a revolving door. Players like tainio, chimbonda, kaboul, Malbranque, murphy, Davids, Pyo and mido have come and gone. Berbatov is surely on his way also Such wonderful players like prince boateng, gilberto, rocha and assou ekotto remain on the books but hopefully not for much longer! In saying that i am aware that we have had 3 managers within the last 5 years, but spurs have gone through a huge amount of players in that time and paying huge sums for them at the same time. Although this year we have recouped more than we have spent SO FAR. I just feel we have too many flair and attacking players like lennon, jenas, modric, bentley and dos santos who can also play as a forward. This is probably a good problem to have but i fell we are short of a davids like player like davids (preferably younger!) Zokora can do a job and would add a much needed balance to the midfield but... they are playing him a full back to cover for the scarcity of players there with hutton out. I dont fancy assou ekotto and bale has potential but is still young. Hopefully roman pavluvchenko arrives but we need another striker as well. pekhart has gone out on loan where i feel he could have provided cover. I also wouldnt be a great lover of the keeper gomes. All doom and gloom i know with chelsea coming to WHL On Sunday! Team for sun:
Gomes
Ekotto King Woodgate Bale
Lennon Modric Zokora Bentley
Dos Santos Bent
Subs Cesar Jenas Dawson Huddlestone O hara
Need a big year from the Thud this year
SNIPER WANTED
LOCATION: Old Trafford Manchester
TARGET: David Gill, Sir Alex, Maurice Watkins and a bulgarian gypsy cheat.
PAYMENT: Any spurs fan!
Hard luck boys. Berba wants to play with the big boys ;D ;D Good luck with getting off the bottom. :-\
Looks like we screwed Man Ure for an extra couple of million, thanks to the intervention of Manchester's richest and soon to be biggest club ;D Now we can go for Arshavin in January ;D
We'll see how long old shit face tolerates Berbatov's tantrums...I'd say he'll be out the door quicker than Jaap Stam
They got a good price for him, Berbatov & United seem to be well matched.
QuoteWe'll see how long old shit face tolerates Berbatov's tantrums...I'd say he'll be out the door quicker than Jaap Stam
Maybe, but not quicker than Juane Ramos departure at the Spuds.... and I'll wager you whatever you want at even money on that! ;)
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/matchtracker
Lets hope so!
Krakow just missed a great chance to take it to extra time.
1-1... Cheerio!!! :D
The spuds were lucky!
Bit of a sweat at the end there but HAPPY DAYS!!!
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which way is the point turning ?
Well done Spurs on scraping pass one of the European Soccer Super Powers.
I thought this was going to be a thread about Tottenham fans taunting Sol Campbell with Racist and homophopic abuse.
Quote from: Chrisowc on October 02, 2008, 04:56:05 PM
I thought this was going to be a thread about Tottenham fans taunting Sol Campbell with Racist and homophopic abuse.
what racial abuse? i never heard any and i was at the match at fratton park. just a bit of slaggin maybe taken a bit far by some, but it certainly was not racial. surely taken the wrong way by an over sensitive campbell.
What actually was said Old bill.
Maybe it was in the papers, but I never actually read anything. From what I am led to believe the incidents were def not racist, although SKY lazilly say they were.
chants were of the maternal variety and from a small minority in the away side.. homophobic(but TBH i didnt find them nasty). sky are just stirring the pot. They are mad to put the pressure on ramos and make a laughing stock out of us. But we have made a good job of that already!!
The bbc and Harry Redknapp are also "stirring"........
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/7647413.stm
I honestly didnt hear anythin racist. Campbell deserves everything he gets but not racial abuse (if there was any).
another turning point for the spuds, they have had that many in the last few years they must be getting dizzy
Quote from: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 05:27:59 PM
I honestly didnt hear anythin racist. Campbell deserves everything he gets but not racial abuse (if there was any).
So homophobia is ok but not the dreaded "n" word ?
Homophobia is not ok but i have heard chants and banter at numerous games bout people being gay and there was never as much coverage given to is as there has been to sol cashbell.
Quote from: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 09:57:58 PM
Homophobia is not ok but i have heard chants and banter at numerous games bout people being gay and there was never as much coverage given to is as there has been to sol cashbell.
Is racism worse than homophobia in your eyes?
a fear of homosexuals can not in anyway be compared to belittling a person because of their race.
as for chanting that some one is a homosexual surley the person who finds it to be insulting has the problem rather than the person Drawing the incorrect conclusion from their rather effeminate manner of defending
Equals. Dont agree with either but i feel it is more acceptable to sing on the terraces bout a player been gay than bein a black ********. Often the gay songs are sung in humour. Whether thats tasteful or not is another thing. Celtic fans or most of them didnt really believe that alan shearer was a w**ker when singin bout Henrik Larsson.
Lets try and keep all the spurs stuff here tony if we can. I see on football focus that alan sugar is appealing for calm from the fans in relation to Juande Ramos. In regard to the Mark Hughes story... what a load of shit. There is no way commolli, levy and co would go to such lengths to gets ramos from sevilla simply to dump him 12 months down the road!
While I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Spurs, its hard to feel sorry for the people running the club given the disgraceful way in which they treated Martin Jol last year.
No doubt about it, managerial changes are no longer the answer. Levy and Comolli must go if this is not sorted out and quickly.
Can't wait for this year's AGM, Commolli got pelters last year! ;D
Tryin not to pay too much heed into what downmarket tabloids have to say, after all, they have jumped on West ham, Newcastle and ourselves recently, they are just tryin to create news rather than reporting on it.
Quote from: Old Bill on October 04, 2008, 08:41:04 PM
Tryin not to pay too much heed into what downmarket tabloids have to say, after all, they have jumped on West ham, Newcastle and ourselves recently, they are just tryin to create news rather than reporting on it.
Stopped reading the tabloids years ago Old Bill, couldnt believe a word they say and who gives a f**k what Kerry Katona snorted
SSN tells me at this hour that terry venables is been linked with the sporting director job.. acording to the NOTW. 2 Hopes: Bob hope and no hope! Prob better man than the gooner spy though!
Quote from: Minder on October 04, 2008, 08:43:30 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on October 04, 2008, 08:41:04 PM
Tryin not to pay too much heed into what downmarket tabloids have to say, after all, they have jumped on West ham, Newcastle and ourselves recently, they are just tryin to create news rather than reporting on it.
Stopped reading the tabloids years ago Old Bill, couldnt believe a word they say and who gives a f**k what Kerry Katona snorted
Katona looks like she has snorted one of her children.. the size of her...!
Spurs 0
Hull City 1
berbatov tov tov he told city to f*** off
berbatov tov tov he showed tottenham who was boss
with his left with his right
he is f***ing dynamite
spectacular, hel get ya
and he looks like dracula!!!
Full Time
Spuds 0
Hull City 1
What now ???
Worst start since 1912.. enough said
End of Ramos?
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 05, 2008, 05:45:13 PM
End of Ramos?
No. Commolli wont get another transfer window though. I actually thought that Spurs were better than they have been today. Just couldnt get a goal.
ha ha fearon you p**ck...its getting near time to start an Official Tottenham Hotspurs Coca-Cola Championship 2009 thread!
How we didn't score at least 3 is beyond me. Rumour now is that Venables will replace Comolli ???
Great interview with Jol in Sunday Times yesterday. Says structure (Director of Football and manager) is right at Tottenham but personnel wrong and the club has lost its identity. Hamburg top of Bundeslegia but I got the impression the big man would come back to the Lane tomorrow if asked and he still has the house near the training ground
It's panto season again at White Hart Lane. you have to keep shouting at the Tottenham defence, "they're behind you!"
Quote from: Windmill abu on October 06, 2008, 10:01:15 AM
It's panto season again at White Hart Lane. you have to keep shouting at the Tottenham defence, "they're behind you!"
Wrong thread Windmill!!!!
I think the two week break for Internationals is a God-send. I reckon once we win our next match the floodgates will open and we'll storm up the table.
QuoteIt's panto season again at White Hart Lane. you have to keep shouting at the Tottenham defence, "they're behind you!"
Wrong thread Windmill!!!!
I think the two week break for Internationals is a God-send. I reckon once we win our next match the floodgates will open and we'll storm up the table.
If I cant post jokes about Spurs on this thread,why should you be allowed to?
:) Suppose I asked for that one!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7666153.stm
Surprised he hasnt come out more loudly in his support for ramos ans not camolli.
Whats the difference between a triangle and Tottenham Hotspur?
A triangle has three points!!!
Can't wait until next weeks hexagon joke.
I was playing scrabble and had enough letters to make 'Tottenham Hotspurs Football Club'. I was gutted when I found out it was only worth two points.
almost a year to day after martin jol got the door, ramos gets the door with harry houdini coming in the other end. Cant say im surprised. Thought the board would ahve gave ramos a little bit more time. delighted to see the board have dumped the director of football role. Good riddance to the gooner spy commolli. Harry wouldn put up with that shit. Portsmouth needed the money as well. happy to see an old fashioned england manager comin in to pump up the players
Would like to see harry bring defoe with him. I really do believe his heart still lies at the lane. There will be a fire sale at fratton park at the next window if another former spur crouch would be able to come that would be a huge bonus.
Another thing he needs to do is strip hollywood jenas of the captaincy and give it to woodgate.
The ledley king situation also needs to be looked at.
We also need 2/3 defensive midfielders also at the next window, u just cant play with 4/5 attacking midfielders it leaves the team with no balance.
I would settle not to be relegated this year as it has been very worrying lately. A good cup run would be a bonus. Europe next year is prob out of our reach tho. We need to rebuild properly after the hatchet job done by the gooner spy.
Feel sorry for Ramos, but then something had to be done, timing could have been much better though, bit like the shambles with Jol last time, but maybe it was only a matter of time, or a day even. But bringing in Redknapp should be a good move, hopefully he'll sort the mess out, and getting rid of the Gooner agent Comolli the best move of all. Who knows if Ramos would have fared better without him around, Harry was never going to have a DOF above him after the Portsmouth experience anyway.
Surprised at the timing of this.
Very surprised at Redknapp's appointment, and was very well hush hushed as I didn't see it whispered anywhere. I was thinking there was NO WAY Spurs could get going again, but Redknapp will probably do it....unfortunately.
Did Harry not have a director of football at Pompey a season or so back. In fact his DOF still has a house in London.....Avram Grant.
feck i find that a strange move for harry... why go from developing a good strong team at portsmouth to have to start all over again. obviously money... but if i was a pompy fan i´d be furious!!
Just wondering..
While Harry take his coach with him too....Tony Adams. That'll put the cats among the North London pigeons!
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 26, 2008, 09:19:30 AM
Just wondering..
While Harry take his coach with him too....Tony Adams. That'll put the cats among the North London pigeons!
big face to take over as portsmouth manager i´d say!
And Sol Campbell!
At last Spurs are recognising their status in the Premier League. Redknapp is a middle-table appointment, someone who steadies a ship without having realistic aspirations of CL football.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 26, 2008, 09:19:30 AM
Just wondering..
While Harry take his coach with him too....Tony Adams. That'll put the cats among the North London pigeons!
I was wondering would they give Adams the Pompy job
I had seen rumours of it on other forums that either sam allardyce or dirty harry would get the spurs job. Adams has completed his trainig and will become Pompey manager.
Dear Supporter,
How quickly things change in football. Our pre-season form, our start to the transfer window and early summer signings had everyone optimistic for the season ahead. The last few days of that window and our poor start to the season has seen all that change. This has been a difficult period for the Club and many questions are being asked and much criticism levelled. I should like to update you on some important developments announced a short while ago, to answer some of your questions and also to outline our thinking as we look to improve our current position going forward.
We have faced many key challenges as we have progressed over the last few seasons and we have had to take important decisions at crucial times - without the wonderful benefit of hindsight and always under full public scrutiny. As such, they have been judgement calls. Some of our decisions and judgements may at times be unpopular with our fans but we always take decisions we believe to be in the best interests of our Club, at the time we make them, and for the right reasons. In many cases, it is simply not possible or practical for all of the factors involved to enter the public domain and I do understand that this can alter or impair the perception of why something has or hasn't been done.
Today, as formally announced by the Club, I have made one such important judgement call and in doing so I have taken some very difficult decisions. Relieving Juande Ramos, our Head Coach, and Juande's assistants, Gus Poyet and Marcos Alvarez, of their posts is not something I have undertaken lightly.
Unfortunately, our record of just three League wins since our memorable Carling Cup victory against Chelsea last February, combined with our extremely poor start to the season, led the Board and I to determine that significant change was necessary as a matter of urgency. We are grateful to Juande, Gus and Marcos for all their hard work - they are incredibly professional, committed individuals and I regret that their time in the Premier League has not gone as well as we had all hoped..
The English Premier League is an unforgiving competition - time was no longer on our side and was a luxury we simply could not afford. We have quite clearly not performed to the best of our ability for many months now and our poor run of form is not something we could allow to continue unchecked.
In appointing Harry Redknapp as our new manager, we are delighted to have secured the services of someone we have long since admired and whose track record and knowledge of all levels of football, including importantly the Premier League, is outstanding. I know Harry is relishing the opportunity of managing a Club he knows well, not least from his son Jamie's time here as a player and Captain, and of re-invigorating and restoring confidence to a squad of highly talented international players. With his great knowledge of the game and his excellent motivational skills, Harry has inspired his teams to consistently over-perform, whilst his preferred attacking style of playing the game sits comfortably with our Club's history, heritage and the type of entertaining football our fans want and expect to see.
We have spent around £175m on new players over the last 3 years. The purchasing of players is a critical aspect of our Club and, given our current position, it is essential that we go into the January transfer window with absolute confidence in the advice being offered to the Board. Following a meeting of the Directors and a full review of our football management structure, I can also inform you that Damien Comolli has left the Club with immediate effect. Damien will not be directly replaced.
In my opinion, and with the benefit that comes with running our Club with and without a Sporting Director in the past seven years, the successful management of a football club is not about structures or job titles. As in most businessess, it's about people: their personal qualities, their knowledge, their experience, their relationships, communication skills, interaction with colleagues, leadership and, of course, their ability.
In Harry, we are also accepting with his appointment that now is the right time for us to move back to a more traditional style of football management at our Club. one which we believe will be capable of initiating our climb back up the Premier League table and to maintaining our challenge in the UEFA, Carling and FA Cup competitions.
However, I should stress that we are not in this current position because of any single factor or any one individual. Human nature often dictates the need to find someone or something to blame, but in these circumstances we need all our energies to be directed instead to supporting the team and improving our League position. Nothing else matters at this time.
That said, and without dwelling too much on last summer, I do also want to take this opportunity to address some of the other concerns you have raised. Many of the questions I have been asked and much of the reasoning for our poor start to the season has centred on our striker options. I do not believe this to be the sole reason, but I do feel it is important to set out the facts once again regarding the sale of two popular and talented strikers: Keane and Berbatov.
Robbie Keane's departure was undoubtedly the shock of the summer. I personally had an excellent relationship with Robbie and he was one player that I always thought would end his career at the Club. I know you all felt the same. I was as disappointed as any of you when he informed me that he wanted to join what he described as his favourite boyhood club. Against this background and despite his obvious professionalism, our coaching staff felt that it would be very difficult to expect Robbie to continue to be such a positive influence in our dressing room when he so clearly wanted to leave us. The decision to sell Robbie was therefore not a financial one, although in such circumstances it was vital for our Club to secure the maximum possible value for a player of Robbie's ability.
The sale of Dimitar was an entirely different matter. Dimitar first intimated to Martin Jol that he wanted to join Manchester United after just one season at our Club - and just 10 days before the end of the summer 2007 transfer window. At that time, the coaching staff's preference was to let Dimitar go and for us to replace him. This was not something I would allow - at any price - as I felt that Dimitar's request was completely unreasonable. From that moment on, we obviously knew we had an issue and we spent many hours over the course of the season that followed trying to persuade Dimitar to stay. I rebuffed a number of approaches from clubs , including Manchester United, this May and again in early July. Despite press stories to the contrary, there was no extended period of negotiation with Manchester United and their July offer of £20m was not increased until they contacted us again in the last few days of the transfer window.
The internal decision to sell Dimitar at the beginning of the window was premised on a suitable replacement being found and on the assumption that Dimitar couldn't be persuaded to change his mind. Under FIFA regulations, if a players signs a contract before his 28th birthday, he has only to serve 3 years of that contract before he can terminate it and join a new club. Whilst some compensation is payable under such circumstances the level of compensation is set by a third party body in accordance with predeteremined factors, and in Dimitar's case would have been but a small fraction of the fee we received from Manchester United. But even this was not the final determining factor in our decision to part company with him. Despite the potential cost to the Club and knowing that our efforts to sign an additional, experienced striker had failed, the final decision on whether or not to sell Dimitar was not a financial decision but a footballing one. It was felt that he had not been a positive influence on the pitch or in the dressing room and that this would continue.
The timing of the actual transfer of Dimitar was completely immaterial and unconnected to our bringing in a replacement for him. We had been aware for a long period that he was likely to leave and our negotiations to get the best fee for him was independent of our work to replace both him (as we did with Pavyluchenko) and Robbie, with experienced strikers.
The ultimate failure - as I have said before - of our dealings in this summer's transfer window was not about the departure of two good strikers, or because we have operated a structure that happens to have had a Sporting Director and a Head Coach, or because our financial parameters are too rigid - after all, let´s not forget that we did bring in much quality to enhance our current squad. Quite simply, we failed because we were not as decisive or as successful in identifying or replacing the two strikers as early as we should have been. Perhaps these insights will help once and for all to de-bunk the myths that have been perpetuated around these transfers.
There is also an inaccurate perception that our Club is run entirely for profit and that football is secondary. Success on the pitch is the sole determinant to the future of the Club and its financial stability, so it would be entirely counter-productive to have anything other than football as our first and foremost priority and it is ridiculous to suggest otherwise. At a time when football clubs are criticised for losing money and for their debt levels, I am surprised that we should be criticised for running our Club on a sound commercial basis and for making a profit. Thank goodness we do make a profit because it has significantly supported the progress we have made over the last seven years and has helped to make us one of Europe's most secure Clubs. I make no apologies for the fact that we reinvest the Club's positive cash flow in both players and infrastructure.
And so back to looking ahead and to redress our current position.
Firstly, in Harry, we have secured the services of an excellent Manager of proven Premier League quality. Harry will be working with a squad of quality internationals. We must not forget that this team, without the benefit of three additional players at the time (Pavlyuchenko, Corluka, Campbell), gave a more than creditable performance against the current League leaders. I have spoken to the senior players in recent days and I know the players share our frustration and I know they will dig deep to produce the performances we know they are capable of - they have our full support - and support for the team is absolutely critical at this time.
We have all been subjected to much criticism - myself, the Board, coaching staff and players - having now made what I considered to be necessary, sweeping changes to our football management team, we must re-assert ourselves, regain our focus, and answer our critics in the best way possible - by winning games again.
Secondly, we must prepare ourselves to take advantage of the January transfer window. Harry's experience of the UK and international transfer market will be of critical importance and I shall be looking to Harry for clarity on our priorities. As Chairman, and as previously in our former structure, I must, ultimately, rely on the knowledge and judgement of my technical staff to give me a clear football-based view and recommendation on our transfer targets.
I can assure you that everyone here, from the Board to our most junior staff member, shares the frustration and disappointment of the season so far, but I can also assure you that all of us in every area of the Club are doing what we can to help the players to produce the level of performance and the consistent good results our fans expect and all of us crave.
We have achieved too much over the last seven years - three successive qualifications for Europe, a League Cup win, Training Centre planning permission - and still more to announce - to allow this to be overtaken and thrown away overnight. We have suffered a set back and we have taken strong action.
I have received numerous e-mails and letters from supporters offering advice and suggestions on how the Club should be run and what we should and should not do. I do appreciate the time people take to write to me and when the e-mails or letters are constructive and not abusive, I can assure you that I read as many as I can. And I do take notice of your views. Indeed, I have been heartened by the fact that the over-riding response from our supporters has been one of determination to get behind the team. Too often in difficult times supporters can forget that their support is needed even more than ever. The team will tell you how much of a difference it can make to them on the pitch. White Hart Lane needs to once again become the fortress it was, not so very long ago. With your tremendous support it can.
Finally, I know I am sometimes criticised for appearing too business-focused, too uncommunicative, or simply for not being emotional enough when it concerns our team. The majority of our fans know that it's simply not my way to seek a high profile. I do not crave publicity, neither do I believe it is necessary to do my job. I would prefer our team to make the headlines, for the right reasons. We now have a manager who is a great communicator to players, fans and the media alike and I shall also, personally, look to keep you all informed and your questions answered as we progress through the season.
Your support has never been more important - and we are grateful to so many of you for the messages of support and encouragement the Club has received during this difficult period. Now's the time for all of us to pull together and to get behind Harry and the team.
Yours, Daniel
Well that's much better, moves us up to....well it's a start anyway. Both strikers scoring is a plus too. Can go to the Emirates with some hope now, still it'll be a difficult task but the last 24 hours has changed the mood considerably.
Happy days!!!! Kickstarting the season. 3 points at Arse-hal next week and we're well on our way.
Whats the difference between Spurs and a hexagon blah blah blah
;D Now watch us climb that table, starting with 3 points at the Haemorrhoids on Wednesday ;D
You beat me to starting this thread Tony. Fair play.
Onwards and upwards!
Welcome back Tony.
Quote from: ziggysego on October 27, 2008, 09:50:25 AM
Welcome back Tony.
Shouldn't you have waited till you were relegated before a comeback thread? Good idea though.
Quote from: T Fearon on October 27, 2008, 09:16:32 AM
;D Now watch us climb that table, starting with 3 points at the Haemorrhoids on Wednesday ;D
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Quote from: Gnevin on October 27, 2008, 01:15:11 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 27, 2008, 09:16:32 AM
;D Now watch us climb that table, starting with 3 points at the Haemorrhoids on Wednesday ;D
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I've reported you for being a tout.
Hopefully Arry will get them playing as a team again and give us back a bit off bite
Mods - make this thread like the tottenham comeback - Short lived!
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=6563.0
Guess rule 5 doesn't apply to Tony. Mod can you give a list of the poster who are exempt from the rules Tony,LL and O'Neill for sure but who else ?
Slightly off topic, but Tony Adams is the new Portsmouth manager.
Slightly unnerved about tomorrow night as I can detect from other Gooners. WIll be glad to get it out of the road. No doubt, I'll be gloating cockily if Arsenal get the 3 points.
You've every right to be tearing your hair out ( :D) as I;m sure the memories of the glorious 5-1 drubbing you received earlier this year are fresh in the tiny minds of all goons.
Who would have thought after results like that it would all go pear shaped for Ramos?
maybe any football fan with half a brain who could see that it was an understrength arsenal team and therefore meant SFA ???
Really lookin forward to this evenin should be a slobberknocker!
2154: GOAL Arsenal 4-4 Tottenham
Did I really just write that? That's the most amazing thing I've ever seen. Luka Modric hits a stunning, dipping, outrageous volley from the edge of the box that flies over Manuel Almunia and cannons back off the post and substitute Aaron Lennon is on hand to tap in the rebound. Utterly, utterly incredible scenes.
Brilliant!
Great game really enjoyed it..And fair play to Spurs I actually gave a little cheer when they got the equaliser
I'm away to wash myself now I feel dirty after saying that
Left the pub after the Chelsea game tonight, and said to an Arsenal colleague of mine everyone level par tonight then, as I left. Couldn't believe it as I flicked on the wireless to hear Lennon score!
Watching MOTD there, and the image of the wee Spurs supporter when Lennon scored was class. Jumped for Modric's shot, and the look on his face as he went through 247 emotions in about 1 second was funny!
I'd have taken that with two minutes to go, that's for sure!
Great fightback in the end, pity they were gifted 2-3 of their goals, what Gomes and Hutton were at I do not know. Always nice to sicken the Gooners.
Harry's off to a good start, 4/6, Pool next up will be another tough one, but a point wouldn't be the worst outcome. If only we could sort it out at the back....
Heh heh heh, what would we have done last night if we had been in form with a settled side ;D. How brilliant would it be to see the goons lose the league by a point at the end of the season :D
Comeback on a par with the 4-4 against Villa last year and we're getting a new 60,000 seater satdium as well ;D
what a comeback arry has got the boys doing something right, now another couple off days working at set pieces with the boys at the back and it might just start coming into a bit off shape, with the luck liverpool are getting at the minute this weekend will be tough...
Interesting to see the reception Robbie gets on Saturday. Won't be good I fear. Game's on setanta, can't wait ;D
Don't kid yourselves. Arsenal were 4-2 up in the 89th minute and were playing footsie with you. They could easily have maintained the momentum and stuck another 2-3 past Gomez. It was a harsh lesson for the Gunners, especially a couple of the younger primadonnas. Clichy's slip had nothing to do with Spurs.
Quote from: ONeill on October 30, 2008, 09:41:10 AM
Don't kid yourselves. Arsenal were 4-2 up in the 89th minute and were playing footsie with you. They could easily have maintained the momentum and stuck another 2-3 past Gomez. It was a harsh lesson for the Gunners, especially a couple of the younger primadonnas. Clichy's slip had nothing to do with Spurs.
But also under ramos our heads would have went down and accepted the defeat but under harry there is abit of fight just hope we can build on that.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/tottenhamhotspurconfirmsnorthumberlanddevelopmentproject.html
Shane, you have been beaten at home by Hull, scraped a draw with a Spurs side in transition. How many lessons do you need before you realise you are going nowhere. Arsenal are a nursery club for the likes of Milan and Real Madrid.
Quote from: T Fearon on October 30, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/tottenhamhotspurconfirmsnorthumberlanddevelopmentproject.html
Shane, you have been beaten at home by Hull, scraped a draw with a Spurs side in transition. How many lessons do you need before you realise you are going nowhere. Arsenal are a nursery club for the likes of Milan and Real Madrid.
;D :D
Great job by spuds last night nicking 2 points off Arsenal. Lets hope you can keep it up against the Bin dippers on Saturday. All for the good Utd cause ;D
7th November 1999
Was thinking that myself Dinny. Great to go a decade without losing to Spuds in the league. That's a serious record in a derby. Momentus Wenger achievement.
Take it to the Arsenal thread you planks!
Quote from: T Fearon on October 30, 2008, 09:00:02 AM
Comeback on a par with the 4-4 against Villa last year and we're getting a new 60,000 seater satdium as well ;D
ya it will be great for ye having the biggest ground in the divison.. its a pity it will only ever be full for the derby games with milwall
The curse of Gareth Bale continues. Apparently the poor lad still hasn't finished on a winning team in a Premier League match yet.
IMPORTANT MESSAGE
If you should see an Arsenal player walking a dog, you must ring the RSPCA on 424344 without delay, as this person cannot be relied upon to hold a lead!
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/grabapieceofderbyhistory301008.html
Whats next, replica trophies from 1961? ::)
Auction is for a worthy cause, the Tottenham foundation helping underprivileged people (including Arsenal supporters) in the Tottenham area. Last year they auctioned the entire kit from the 125th anniversary game with Villa
Quote from: T Fearon on October 31, 2008, 11:07:15 AM
Auction is for a worthy cause, the Tottenham foundation helping underprivileged people (including Arsenal supporters) in the Tottenham area. Last year they auctioned the entire kit from the 125th anniversary game with Villa
A very worthy cause without question and the 125th anniversary kit was probably worth auctioning if your into that kind of thing. However auctioning boots etc. from a game that ended in a draw is scraping the bottom of the barrell. Maybe if they win something soon, I dont know, say the 2009/2010 Championship they could then find something worth auctioning.
David Healy: Hand it to Harry Hotspur
What a transformation at Tottenham. This time last week it was all doom and gloom at White Hart Lane.
Now the players and fans are buzzing.
First came that 2-0 win over Bolton and then they secured a 4-4 draw in an amazing game with Arsenal on Wednesday night. Coming off the Emirates pitch, I'm sure the Spurs players will have felt as though they had won the match.
What's the reason for this turnaround?
Well, you have to hand it to Harry Redknapp.
In the game Harry has a reputation for being crafty in the transfer market with the ability to turn a rough diamond into something special. He went back to manage Portsmouth and kept them in the Premier League when all seemed lost.
And I doubt anyone thinks that Tottenham will go down now that he has arrived on the scene.
That wasn't the case a week ago.
It seems there was unrest between some of the players and the previous manager Juande Ramos, but since Harry has taken over everything seems to be going smoothly.
Look at David Bentley for instance.
At the start of the season I picked him out as my man to watch, but whether it was the massive transfer fee that got to him or just how he was being used by Ramos, things weren't going right for him at all. Harry comes in and he is making goals and scoring goals and looking like he is worth all that money Spurs paid for him.
Over the years I've watched millions of goals being scored.
But there are goals and then there are GOALS. When I saw Bentley's goal at the Emirates, my immediate reaction was "Wow. What a goal."
It really was a sensational strike.
It took vision, awareness and outstanding technique. That goal is going to do him the world of good. I think you will see the best of him now.
He's a high class performer and one of the few players to score a hat-trick against Manchester United.
If I were Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez, I would be telling my players to keep a close eye on him on Saturday night when the sides meet.
That should be a cracking game because Liverpool are clearly on a high.
Even so Spurs are going to be very hard to beat tomorrow.
Right now I imagine their players just can't wait to get on the field.
Arsenal players will feel the same way but because they have some making up to do.
You could see how upset Arsene Wenger was to see his side lose a two-goal lead in the dying minutes.
It was due to a lack of maturity and discipline. I thought that when some of the Arsenal substitutes were coming on they were celebrating already.
Arsenal are magnificent to watch but they are a young side. Remember there is no one like Tony Adams, Patrick Vieira or Martin Keown around which would have been a major help against Spurs.
Wednesday night was a lesson for them.
Wenger will hope they learn from it.
Sourced belfasttelegraph.co.uk
Tell ye what, keep this up and we'll be top of the league by March!!!!
Harry Houdini!!! Legend!
Got to hand it to Harry, he's been a tonic to Spurs.
Quote from: EC Unique on October 30, 2008, 11:33:24 AM
Great job by spuds last night nicking 2 points off Arsenal. Lets hope you can keep it up against the Bin dippers on Saturday. All for the good Utd cause ;D
Great stuff lads ;D ;D
7/9 points from the last week's action, and now off the bottom too. Nice one 'Arry!
delighted with the last week in dreamland!
Does anyone know if the Spurs match is on tv this evening?
i know villa are on channel 5 :)
and i think city are on ITV4
any other channels do Uefa cup matches?
Doesn't look like it.
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Bent hat-trick. 4-0. Still time for another couple.
GET IN!!!!!!!
That's a good result for Spurs tonight. Especially that useless hoor Bent getting a hat trick.
Easy as you like. Bent paying back some of that £16.5m fee too. May it continue.
Any day u win 4 nil is a good one. first clean sheet for Gomes in awhile i would say. I heard bostock was excellent when introduced hopefully one for the future!
And more still, great result having gone behind early on. And Bent is delivering the goals that he seemed to be threatening in pre-season. Off the bottom again, this time for good hopefully.
Mind you City are struggling, would need to be careful not to get caught up in the dogfight too.
Happy days. Darren Bent proves he is one of the top strikers in the premiership!!
Brilliant result against Man City.
Has Tony been banned again? Haven't seen him in a few days.
Great result again, and Joe Jordan, renowned Celtic supporter has joined us as well. ;D
December 13th is the date, when Man Ure visit the Lane, how we owe them big time. If three points are secured then, Arry moves right up there alongside Bill Nick and Burkinshaw ;)
Ah, there you are
4-2 against the bin dippers and their two goals were as a result of errors by Gomes as well. Also Pavlyuchenko staring to score now as well as Bent and it looks like Campbell is doing better with us than Berbatov is at Old Trafford!
Will we ever lose again? ;D
2 losses for liverpool this year both at white heart lane. Brilliant
No one wants to play spurs at the moment. imagine redknapp was there from the start of the season.
Also bound to have a load of money to spend in January, Arshavin will be coming and hopefully a decent goalkeeper. At long last Levy seems to have got it right ;D
Spurs have a terrible defence, won't be long before this bubble bursts and they are back in relegation touble. How bad were Liverpool last night and yet they created chances.
Would need to sign a goalie, 2 centre backs, a defenisve mid-fielder and a decent strike in January.
They have a good defence, midfield and strike force. They just need a goalkeeper.
How many chances did liverpool create besides two goals? They didn't have shot in the first half.
Why buy a striker in january when they have scored 18 goals in 6 games.
I have a genuine question for all you Spurs fans that interests and slightly puzzles me. Why is there so many people in Ireland who support Spurs? It seems to be that every 10th person who is interested in football supports Spurs. I have been watching football for about 20 years and I can never remember Spurs being a really great team (they've had the odd cup run) yet I would say there are nearly more people who support Spurs than support Arsenal.
Quote from: Maiden1 on November 13, 2008, 10:27:52 AM
I have a genuine question for all you Spurs fans that interests and slightly puzzles me. Why is there so many people in Ireland who support Spurs? It seems to be that every 10th person who is interested in football supports Spurs. I have been watching football for about 20 years and I can never remember Spurs being a really great team (they've had the odd cup run) yet I would say there are nearly more people who support Spurs than support Arsenal.
Because not everyone jumps on the bandwagon of Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal. Chelsea are getting more popular with kids these days now aswell.
Quote from: cavan4ever on November 13, 2008, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: Maiden1 on November 13, 2008, 10:27:52 AM
I have a genuine question for all you Spurs fans that interests and slightly puzzles me. Why is there so many people in Ireland who support Spurs? It seems to be that every 10th person who is interested in football supports Spurs. I have been watching football for about 20 years and I can never remember Spurs being a really great team (they've had the odd cup run) yet I would say there are nearly more people who support Spurs than support Arsenal.
Because not everyone jumps on the bandwagon of Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal. Chelsea are getting more popular with kids these days now aswell.
It's good and the Spurs fans seem to be the most passionate as well. I've tried slagging a Spurs fan in the past and it wasn't a good move.
QuoteThey have a good defence,
Delusion alert, Spurs full-backs are very poor, Bale was terrible defensively last night and Hutton is even worse. They have no imposing centre-back bar a crocked King. They have conceded 18 goals in 12 league games keeping only 2 clean sheets, were ripped apart by Liverpool and Arsenal where they should conceded 20 goals to those sides never mind the 5 they did. They do not have a decent strike force, again they are just riding the bubble and this bubble will end and maybe then you realise Spurs limitations.
Most goals have been the keepers fault
yea blame the keeper, it's all his fault ???
I didnt say it was all the keepers fault. They have the same central defence as they had last season and before they won the carling cup (and knew they were in Europe) the hadn't conceded many goals. So you have too blame the keeper for alot.
Since 'Arry took over - W5 D1 L0, scored 18 - conceded 8
The attack was/is razor sharp but our defence is woeful, and Gomes is 50% of that tumor.. He has to go..
'Arry Redknapp... He's a Top Top Manajaa
Campbell doing better at Spurs than Berbatov at United? How - by scoring 2 goals against Liverpools reserves?
Maiden1, my support goes back to the 1967 FA Cup Final, the day I made my first communion. Spurs along with Man Ure were the big glamour teams of the period, (Best, Law Charlton versus Jennings, Mackay Greaves etc) and they also had a guy in goals called Jennings. Remember vividly counting all the money I got then sitting down to watch the game in grainy black and white tv. Fair few highs and lows in the last 40 years, but the 1967 to 1973 period which yielded I FA Cup, 2 league cups and a UEFA cup, and the 1978 (Ardiles and Villa arrive) to 1984 ( a period which yielded two FA Cups and UEFA Cup) were definitely highs.
I think the style of football also plays a part. I would swap the flair of Spurs for a fraction of the trophies Arsenil have won by their boring defensive methods.
That last sentence should read "I wouldnt swap the falir of Spurs for a fraction of the trophies won by Arsenal with boring defensive football", of course!
Quote from: T Fearon on November 13, 2008, 11:33:44 AM
I would swap the flair of Spurs for a fraction of the trophies Arsenil have won by their boring defensive methods.
Good to see you coming to your senses fatman.
Hey Tony, Did you get much money that day? Have you still got any of it? ;D
About £2, 17 shillings and 6 pence. ;D
Spurs AGM on Monday December 15th 2008 at 2pm. Your resident shareholder will keep you abreast with a full report!
QuoteThat last sentence should read "I wouldnt swap the falir of Spurs for a fraction of the trophies won by Arsenal with boring defensive football", of course!
Did you mean 'failure' there Tony?
gomes out in jan. hope harry will try ceasar in goals from here till xmas. surely he couldn be as bad as that calamity.
Best of luck to ex spur Darren Anderton who will retire after Bournemouths league match tomorrow. An extremely under rated player.
Back page of The Star is stating that Harry wants Keane back and reckons that he can get him for €6 million as Liverpool still owe €12m. Anyone thing that this would be a good move. If anyone was to return, Defoe would be my choice.
Hard to know. Dunno how the fans would react to keane comin back TBH. Defoe for me was always hit or miss;. He would score 5 in 5 and then wouldn score for another 10. Great pace though. Keane could be coming back as damaged goods although i doubt the pool would let him leave for 5 or 6 m. We would have to pay maybe 10/11m to get him back. Anyways would Keane fit into the current tottenham team? We have Modric who is playin very well, The potential of dos santos as well which has to be realised!
I would welcome Keane back (after all we took Sheringham back when he deserted us and was well past his prime when he returned). Keane was Spurs best player this last few seasons and there's no loss of face on either side if he says simply he made a mistake and should never have left Spurs in the first place.He was a damn good captain too in ledley's absence as well.I predicted things wouldn't work out at Anfield where there's too much chopping and changing, ask the likes of Crouch, Bellamy etc. Benitez sames to have one star forward and the rest as far as he's concerned are bit players. He needs a manager like Jol or Redknapp who relate well to players as individuals. Apart from all that I have about six different Spurs shirts over the last few years with Keane's name and number on the back which I could wear again if he returns ;D
See Ghaly was in the squad for the carling cup game last week it's bad that championship teams don't seem to even want him. He must be happy enough to sit around and lift his wages.
Watched the first half last night then listened to the second on radio. What seems to be the problem with our passing around the middle, too many times last night a ball into the channels was cut out and the counterattack was on, also on one occassion modric ran accross the pitch gave the ball to lennon on the side line then tried to take it off him again and turned the ball over to west ham. we need the ball going to feet to stop counterattacks as each time west ham broke even the commentator was getting excited as there was the possibilty off a goal.
Nevertheless a good win and Gomes also looked competent for once. Why the hell do we beat West Ham all the time at Upton Park but couldn't do it in 2006 to claim the Champions League spot?
Quote from: T Fearon on December 09, 2008, 09:13:31 AM
Nevertheless a good win and Gomes also looked competent for once. Why the hell do we beat West Ham all the time at Upton Park but couldn't do it in 2006 to claim the Champions League spot?
a couple off good punches alright commanded his box
I see Juande Ramos will be the next manager of Real Madrid. Tony, Just because it was done with Sheringham does not mean it will be the right thing to do this time. At that time, United were multi Title winning side, Liverpool are not and wont be. Keane would lose face of course, I and other fans were angered about his 'i love the club' comments when he joined Liverpool. Would he fit in now?
Old Bill not the same scenario. If Robbie was to come back after a few months realising his mistake I'd be happy. Sheringham came back after 6 years glory hunting, when he was all washed up, and there wasn't a murmur of protest about it.
Different scenario tony, Then Tottenham was a club on its knees a victim of mis management of gross and graham and the like. Spurs now are a much different propisition. We have done well in europe and have top 5 finishes in the last few years. Then we were not in the position to buy the like of Pav and Modric. I dont think we need Robbie. Although he would do well under some one like Harry
BTw Teddy was at United for 4 years not 6!
Ramos just confirmed! What a turnaround!
Ah well, after Spurs it was always going to be a step down whatever ;D
This is probably paper talk but Ramos is being linked today with moves for both Aaron Lennon and David Bentley. Probably a load of Balls but Bents is struggling to get his place with us never mind competing for a place at Real Madrid!
Well Real did sign Woodgate once..before he developed into a top class defender and Cup winning goalscorer at the Lane ;D
Quote from: Old Bill on December 10, 2008, 11:42:44 AM
This is probably paper talk but Ramos is being linked today with moves for both Aaron Lennon and David Bentley. Probably a load of Balls but Bents is struggling to get his place with us never mind competing for a place at Real Madrid!
As long as he doesn't try and sign Gomes i don't mind.
I think Bentley would suit the Spanish league a lot more. Doesn't look physical / pacy enough for English one...
As for Lennon don't think he'd be so good there. As my workmate said "if Aaron Lennon had half a brain he'd be amazing..."
I have a good feeling about this weekend's game with Man Ure, we certainly owe them one and have beaten all the other so called top four in recent seasons except them. 10/3 against in the local bookies as well
One of those odd occasions I am fully behind Spurs.
They have upset Liverpool in recent months, so hopefully they can help us out this time and cause man u some problems
Quotebeaten all the other so called top four in recent seasons except them
Eh, 18 games since the Spuds beat Arsenal in the Premiership :o
Well done spuds
Good results for spurs yesterday. Very happy with it. Defence was good. Corluka very good with Dawson very committed. Zokora proved what an asset he is when he went to right back. Lennon has improved alot since harry came. There is more end product with him lately! Modric is proving to be a goos signing and Pav played well also. Gomes was superb and since the arrival of Parkes as his goalkeeping coach, he has really steadied himself up. Hopefully he proves a good signing and proves me wrong. I see we are linked again with Robbie and also (more favourably in my opinion) Richard Dunne, who could replace Ledley, who seems to be near finished if his knee doesn clear up, which it wont. Joe Cole also linked who would also be welcome. Didnt get Fergies remarks during the week about how we wanted to sell Carrick a few years back. Maybe he is just mad that he paid 30m for Berb, who is proving to be more like Juan Veron than Eric Cantona!
Good result and a game we could easily have won. Lennon on fire and Gomes at last starting to look good. I said all along that Keane and Berbatov would fail at Anfield and Old Trafford but at least we have taken two American Corporations for a ride with the transfer fees for both ;D
Was Tony at the AGM at the weekend? I see the new stadium plans have been unveiled.
Had planned to go, flights booked and all (cost me a tenner!) but then decided to head off to Rome on Boxing Day instead. New stadium looks class. Wonder are we getting a dividend this year, got my first and only one last year. Maybe not after Ramos big payoff. ::)
Didn't see the match tonight, anyone who did? Wasn't looking too good for a good while, but at least the result was got in the end to get through, seems that we will have one of the third-placed CL teams now, a few tricky prospects there if so.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on December 18, 2008, 10:24:55 PM
Didn't see the match tonight, anyone who did? Wasn't looking too good for a good while, but at least the result was got in the end to get through, seems that we will have one of the third-placed CL teams now, a few tricky prospects there if so.
Didnt see it either Owen but must search for the highlights now. Decent result considering we were vastly depleted against a quality Moscow side. Interesting comment from Harold after who said that that would be Gilbertos last game for the club. Another great signing by Commolli!
Quote from: Old Bill on December 18, 2008, 11:11:53 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on December 18, 2008, 10:24:55 PM
Didn't see the match tonight, anyone who did? Wasn't looking too good for a good while, but at least the result was got in the end to get through, seems that we will have one of the third-placed CL teams now, a few tricky prospects there if so.
Didnt see it either Owen but must search for the highlights now. Decent result considering we were vastly depleted against a quality Moscow side. Interesting comment from Harold after who said that that would be Gilbertos last game for the club. Another great signing by Commolli!
Yep, were fairly stretched for it alright, and the cuptied buys didn't help matters. IIRC Gilberto made a big blunder in this comp last year too against PSV, hasn't done much to convince, so another one to be shuffled out quietly then. Had quite a few of them at WHL over the years.
donestsk? tough draw for the spurs. Tough place to go, not a very hospitalable place to go!
Push for the 1st goal but poor postiioning by dawson.
Thought the sending off was harsh myself, the rules of the game have gone mad, Assou Ekotto tries to do a piroutte on the ball and Zuiverloon made a meal of it.
Disappointing result
Defoe! delighted
He should never have been given away in the first place.
What odds the fab four, Bent, Defoe, Berbatov and Keane being reunited before the end of the season ;D
thought it was going to be another one off those nights last night, they just could not get it together in the first half, arry must have given them a right wake up call, great call to bring on o'hara bit of spirit, bently is just an enigma.
Love to know what 'Arry said at half time!!
Happy days though, and Defoe is eligible to play in the rest of the competition.
I always thought it was a bigger lose when Defoe left compared to Berbatov or Keane.
Great little player on his day! Was hot and cold in his first spell with us . He didnt celebrate when he scored against us in fratton park earlier this season but you could tell that he loved spurs. Spurs arent paying as much as people think for him either. Spurs are cancelling the sell on clause and the monies owed from the Kaboul and Mendes deals so its not as if were 15m out for him either. Heard people saying that he didnt score that many goals for us. We did score 43 league goals in 88 starts and 51 sub appearance so i would be pretty happy with that again. Hopefully he can form a partnership with pav as well cause it looks like the Bent and him arent compatable as they havent played together much this season due to Modric playing behind the front man.
The scoreline flattered us last night. We were very ordinary in parts the midfield was a total wasteland especially in the 1st. Hopefully thats where the triallist Appiah will come in! Great strike by Pav, hopefully harry likes him enough to keep him. Here does anyone think that Bentley has been a pure waste of space this season? Apart from the goal against the goons there aint too many games were he has looked as been worth 17m quid. BTW Jamie O Hara was fantastic last night when introduced for him!
Tottenham Hotspur negotiating loan deal with Espanyol for Steve Finnan
Dave Cohen - 8 January 2009 05:57
Tottenham Hotspur are currently holding talks with Espanyol Barcelona in an effort to bring Republic of Ireland and former Liverpool defender Steve Finnan to White Hart Lane.
The thirty-two year old Finnan has only played four matches for his new club Espanyol as he spent most of the season through injury.
It is reported from the capital that negotiations are at an advanced stage.
Quote from: Billys Boots on January 08, 2009, 09:40:49 AM
Tottenham Hotspur negotiating loan deal with Espanyol for Steve Finnan
Dave Cohen - 8 January 2009 05:57
Tottenham Hotspur are currently holding talks with Espanyol Barcelona in an effort to bring Republic of Ireland and former Liverpool defender Steve Finnan to White Hart Lane.
The thirty-two year old Finnan has only played four matches for his new club Espanyol as he spent most of the season through injury.
It is reported from the capital that negotiations are at an advanced stage.
He is a good player but is there not enough injured defenders in the squad without bringing in another
Spurs are on the brink of signing Palacios from Wigan for £14 million
Carlo Cudicini is a Lily White! Great shot stopper a few years back for the Blues, and probably the best shot stopper I have ever seen.
Tottenham have clinched the signing of Chelsea's Carlo Cudicini for around
£1 million.
Manager Harry Redknapp moved for the 35-year-old Italian after growing concerned about his goalkeepers.
First-choice Heurelho Gomes has been playing through injury and Cesar Sanchez, who is deemed sub-standard, has been allowed to join Valencia until the end of the season.
Gomes has adapted to the Premier League after an initially disastrous switch from PSV last summer, but Cudicini will provide stiff competition for the Brazilian after finally stepping out of the shadows at Stamford Bridge.
Cudicini, whose Chelsea contract ends in the summer, moved to the club 10 years ago but he has been second choice to Petr Cech since the Czech arrived in 2004.
He has only made 25 League starts in the last five seasons and has been frustrated at his place in the Chelsea pecking order.
We could have done with him tonight. f**k me it's embarrassing, deserve to lose now.
QuoteCarlo Cudicini is a Lily White! Great shot stopper a few years back for the Blues, and probably the best shot stopper I have ever seen.
The laziest, least ambitious, money-grabbing goal-keeper ever. Even eclipses Mark Bosnich. If he were a civil servant he's be the one on sick-leave for 5 years with a bad back!
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 21, 2009, 02:12:26 AM
Carlo Cudicini is a Lily White! Great shot stopper a few years back for the Blues, and probably the best shot stopper I have ever seen.
Tottenham have clinched the signing of Chelsea's Carlo Cudicini for around
£1 million.
Manager Harry Redknapp moved for the 35-year-old Italian after growing concerned about his goalkeepers.
First-choice Heurelho Gomes has been playing through injury and Cesar Sanchez, who is deemed sub-standard, has been allowed to join Valencia until the end of the season.
Gomes has adapted to the Premier League after an initially disastrous switch from PSV last summer, but Cudicini will provide stiff competition for the Brazilian after finally stepping out of the shadows at Stamford Bridge.
Cudicini, whose Chelsea contract ends in the summer, moved to the club 10 years ago but he has been second choice to Petr Cech since the Czech arrived in 2004.
He has only made 25 League starts in the last five seasons and has been frustrated at his place in the Chelsea pecking order.
Confirmed... but Carlo's loyalty rewarded with a free transfer.
Is Cudicini any good anymore? He's hardly played in the last 3 or 4 years. A lot seem to be remembering his performances pre-Cech's arrival at Chelsea and assuming he's still as good. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's found out in the next few weeks.
cant see the logic in chimbonda being signed. hutton and corluka both better players. agree cudicini may be a bit dodgy 2
Quote from: under the bar on January 21, 2009, 11:25:46 PM
QuoteCarlo Cudicini is a Lily White! Great shot stopper a few years back for the Blues, and probably the best shot stopper I have ever seen.
The laziest, least ambitious, money-grabbing goal-keeper ever. Even eclipses Mark Bosnich. If he were a civil servant he's be the one on sick-leave for 5 years with a bad back!
Wha? So if you stamp your feet and ask for a move you are disloyal. If you say feck all and work hard at training, you are lazy???
QuoteIs Cudicini any good anymore? He's hardly played in the last 3 or 4 years. A lot seem to be remembering his performances pre-Cech's arrival at Chelsea and assuming he's still as good. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's found out in the next few weeks.
The jury is out. He has been average the few times he has been called into the team to replace Cech, but that's a management fault. Chelsea have a policy where-by the reserve team is used for our besy youth players to asssimilate them to first team football. Therefore generally no experienced pros feature.
However what the result is, is people coming in cold, and for a keeper that's lethal.
Rumours this morn harry thinking off letting lennon or jenas go to liverpool plus money to bring back keane.
What would be the point of bringing keane back then letting a winger go, jenas yes but would liverpool want him, maybe as cover for stevie g for when he will be off doing abit of bird ;D ;)
I would hate to see Lennon leave but would hate it more if he went to liverpool. They can have Jenas if they want. If another stricker is needed then we should have gone for heskey and get rid of bent. Three striker is enough while Campbell is on loan.
I'd welcome Robbie back, if only because I have about 6 old Spurs shirts with his name and number on ;D
Agree though, Lennon should not be part of any deal. Either Jenas or £7m.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 28, 2009, 01:16:06 PM
I'd welcome Robbie back, if only because I have about 6 old Spurs shirts with his name and number on ;D
Agree though, Lennon should not be part of any deal. Either Jenas or £7m.
Leave him where he is, he got his "dream" move to his boyhood club and has happeded a few times in his career he couldn't cut the mustard. As was said previously no way should Lennon be part of the deal. I never have been his biggest fan, but he swown good character lately, even taking off his gloves for some games!
If we can accept Sheringham back, well over the hill, after his glory hunting years with Man Ure, surely we can have Robbie back after realising his mistake a few months ago?
Bad news regarding Defoe I believe - rest of season injury?
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2009, 08:49:54 AM
Bad news regarding Defoe I believe - rest of season injury?
I understand that he'll be out for approx 4 weeks.
Quote from: Shrewdness on January 31, 2009, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2009, 08:49:54 AM
Bad news regarding Defoe I believe - rest of season injury?
I understand that he'll be out for approx 4 weeks.
Aparently he is having another scan at lunch time today, so I'd expect Harry to announce what the story is at the post match conferance. Reading between the lines it is for most of the rest of the season alright.
That could be a catalyst to the Keane deal.
spurs-the gift that keeps on giving
WTF was Bentley at for Boltons winner ??
He was on the post and the ball looks like it went in between him and the post.
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 31, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
WTF was Bentley at for Boltons winner ??
He was on the post and the ball looks like it went in between him and the post.
Symbolic of the type of lazy, 'I don't care' attitude footballer that is a blight on the game at the moment.
Just back in from the Reebox stadium. Spurs were brual in the first half but bringing on Bent defiently changed the game. Bentley is living off his reputation big time at the minute, he doesn't want to know when players put their foot in. Spurs will be safe this season but they are desperate need of a few players.
Robbie's coming home, he's coming home!
My 8 replica jersies can be worn with pride once again ;D
QuoteRobbie's coming home, he's coming home!
My 8 replica jersies can be worn with pride once again
that's 8 fewer tents for the Gaza appeal! :'(
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2009, 01:26:08 PM
Robbie's coming home, he's coming home!
My 8 replica jersies can be worn with pride once again ;D
How does the fact he failed at a big club suit your view of him as one of the top players ireland has produced?
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2009, 01:26:08 PM
Robbie's coming home, he's coming home!
My 8 replica jersies can be worn with pride once again ;D
Id leave him where he is.
Don Santos to portsmouth he didnt get much of a chance if the deal goes through.
He has proven himself at Spurs and would have done at Liverpool had he been given the chance, and I predicted he wouldn't be given a chance, beacuse he's neither a scouser or a spaniard.
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 02, 2009, 01:32:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2009, 01:26:08 PM
Robbie's coming home, he's coming home!
My 8 replica jersies can be worn with pride once again ;D
Id leave him where he is.
Don Santos to portsmouth he didnt get much of a chance if the deal goes through.
Lord God, i cant believe the life long supporter of Liverpool is back. Leave him where he is i say......... we are all over the place as a club at the minute
Quote from: nifan on February 02, 2009, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2009, 01:26:08 PM
Robbie's coming home, he's coming home!
My 8 replica jersies can be worn with pride once again ;D
How does the fact he failed at a big club suit your view of him as one of the top players ireland has produced?
he didnt fail...he was failed by that clown Benetiz. Pleae take Rafa as well
If it was Robbie's dream to go to Anfield does this mean he is now entering a nightmare going back to WHL?
What is it with Spurs, selling players only to buy them back again?
Quote from: peterquaife on February 02, 2009, 01:49:43 PM
he didnt fail...he was failed by that clown Benetiz. Pleae take Rafa as well
He was shocking in nearly every game he played, with a few bright spots.
Quote from: nifan on February 02, 2009, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: peterquaife on February 02, 2009, 01:49:43 PM
he didnt fail...he was failed by that clown Benetiz. Pleae take Rafa as well
He was shocking in nearly every game he played, with a few bright spots.
it doesn't help when you he got takin off near ever game or brought on as a sub. He scored all his goals from starting.
Quote from: ziggysego on February 02, 2009, 04:32:01 PM
What is it with Spurs, selling players only to buy them back again?
some of their managers are as bad as rafa benitez
How many times did he win Player of the Year at WHL? As I've said before only spaniards and scousers get on at Liverpool a mediocre team that was gifted a Champions League by AC Milan in 2005.
The club did not choose to sell him, he left, though they were happy enugh to accept the money. But it can only be a big bonus for everyone at Spurs if he returns contrite with a point to prove.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2009, 04:38:46 PM
How many times did he win Player of the Year at WHL? As I've said before only spaniards and scousers get on at Liverpool a mediocre team that was gifted a Champions League by AC Milan in 2005.
One of the biggest loads of sh1te you have ever posted
Calling the scousers a mediocre team then boasting about how many times he won POTY with the spuds
FFS Tony, you are some craic :D
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2009, 04:38:46 PM
As I've said before only spaniards and scousers get on at Liverpool a mediocre team that was gifted a Champions League by AC Milan in 2005.
:D
if we are a mediocre team then he failed at a mediocre team.
I hope he gets on better back at a poor team.
Typical the little Liverpool reject signs just in time for the Arsenal game >:(
Keane confirmed as Spurs' captain.
Looking forward to this weekend, Robbie back in a Spurs jersey and a chance to finally kill off the Goons Champions League qualification bid and of course remove ourselves from the relegation zone! ;D
Tony remind us all when was the last time the Spuds beat Arsenal in the league?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2009, 10:20:43 AM
Tony remind us all when was the last time the Spuds beat Arsenal in the league?
Good question. I'd say that with his knack of switching sides, it could stretch back as far as when he was a Gooner... ;)
The last time we beat the Goons is unimportant (though the 5-1 win just over a year ago is sweet still), the next time is...this weekend.
As for Evil Kneivel, I have never switched sides. Its been Spurs, Ireland and Celtic (and anyone whose playing Linfield/IFA) since I was able to crawl ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on February 06, 2009, 04:43:45 PM
As for Evil Kneivel, I have never switched sides. Its been Spurs, Ireland and Celtic (and anyone whose playing Linfield/IFA) since I was able to crawl ;D
Aye, but
which Ireland? The 'Original and Best', or the 'Johnny-Come-Lately Splitters (Plastic Section)'? ;)
While depriving the goons of 2 points yesterday I'm still gutted that we didn't nab all three ourselves, especially as i had a quid on Spurs to win 1-0 with Robbie scoring the goal at odds of 45/1 , and he came mightily close with a header. Modric should have won the game in injury time as well...if only Keane, Pavlychenko or Bent had been on the end of that chance. Still it looks like the goons evil era is over for good ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on February 09, 2009, 09:03:41 AM
While depriving the goons of 2 points yesterday I'm still gutted that we didn't nab all three ourselves, especially as i had a quid on Spurs to win 1-0 with Robbie scoring the goal at odds of 45/1 , and he came mightily close with a header. Modric should have won the game in injury time as well...if only Keane, Pavlychenko or Bent had been on the end of that chance. Still it looks like the goons evil era is over for good ;D
it'd still have been 0-0
Disappointing not to win, but every point counts. A win or two now would be a big help in clawing away from that dogfight.
Tony are u confident on winning the final on sunday week?
Never mind what Tony says. Im confident.
2-0 Spurs!!
United will score
Over 100 games since united lost by more than 1 goal
I fancy 3-0 Utd. Must look for odds.
Thank feck for that. Scary stuff listening to football on the radio. A wee cup final win on Sunday will do the trick.
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 23, 2009, 10:04:32 PM
Thank feck for that. Scary stuff listening to football on the radio. A wee cup final win on Sunday will do the trick.
Cudicini must be drinking from the same mug as Gomes.
Hull are going down i said it weeks ago and no1 would listen to me whos laughing now thou
Who is spurs goalkeeper coach??
Stevie Wonder.
Great result last night. Good goals from Lennon and Woodgate (wasn't a big fan of Woodgate before but his commitment epitomised by his reaction to the winning goal is impressive). Where are we going to find a decent goalkeeper, I'd even settle for David James at the moment. ???
Looking forward to the game on Sunday
Where are you watching it Big T?
Busy weekend for me. Over in Glasgow on Saturday for Celtic game then perched in front of tv on Sunday for Spurs retention of Carling Cup
How much importance would you place on Sunday's game Tony?
Maybe its because I'm old school but I attach extreme importance to the Carling Cup Final and indeed to Thursday's UEFA game as well. No reason why both shouldn't be aimed for especially now that there's a bit of daylight between ourselves and the relegation zone. Particularly would like to see progress made in the UEFA Cup, for nostalgic reasons alone, I still remember the joy of beating Anderlecht on penalties in 1984 and the two legged win over Wolves in the final in 1972.
he played ok, played very deep
Great goal by Don Santos
Oh well, it was inevitable really. Onward to Sunday, pure underdogs for it but maybe it could be a repeat of last year. Maybe. :-\
Disappointing that so many clubs from the 'bigger' leagues seem not bothered with the UEFA cup anymore. Along with Spurs - Milan, Fiorentina, Deportivo, Villa, Sampdoria and Valencia from Europe's big three leagues all knocked out tonight :-\
Top 50 Spurs Players
They struggled to pad it out to 50 i believe.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/tottenham/article5920090.ece
That was tight at the end!!!!!
G'WANNNNN SPURSSSSSSS!!!! Yeooo!!!
Top 7 finish here we come..........
Well done spuds!!
I always liked Spurs ;)
Great win on Saturday..pity we sacrificed the UEFA Cup though. Beating Chelsea and Liverpool and running Man Ure to penalties in the Carling Cup Final shows we are a match for anyone, and Robbie's return has been instrumental in the upturn in fortunes.
Great to see Lennon extending his contract, hopefully the the likes of the debt ridden Liverpool and Man Ure will keeps their hands off.
King back in the England squad is good news also and at last Modric is beginning to show his true class
Cant wait for next season. ;D
PS A horse called King Ledley won at 4/1 at the Curragh yesterday. How did we miss that?
Quote from: T Fearon on March 23, 2009, 02:18:39 PM
Great win on Saturday..pity we sacrificed the UEFA Cup though. Beating Chelsea and Liverpool and running Man Ure to penalties in the Carling Cup Final shows we are a match for anyone, and Robbie's return has been instrumental in the upturn in fortunes.
Great to see Lennon extending his contract, hopefully the the likes of the debt ridden Liverpool and Man Ure will keeps their hands off.
King back in the England squad is good news also and at last Modric is beginning to show his true class
Cant wait for next season. ;D
PS A horse called King Ledley won at 4/1 at the Curragh yesterday. How did we miss that?
Tottenham are shite T fearon, pure shite in fact
Quote from: mrsandman on March 23, 2009, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 23, 2009, 02:18:39 PM
Great win on Saturday..pity we sacrificed the UEFA Cup though. Beating Chelsea and Liverpool and running Man Ure to penalties in the Carling Cup Final shows we are a match for anyone, and Robbie's return has been instrumental in the upturn in fortunes.
Great to see Lennon extending his contract, hopefully the the likes of the debt ridden Liverpool and Man Ure will keeps their hands off.
King back in the England squad is good news also and at last Modric is beginning to show his true class
Cant wait for next season. ;D
PS A horse called King Ledley won at 4/1 at the Curragh yesterday. How did we miss that?
Tottenham are shite T fearon, pure shite in fact
There you have it then, thats the end of this thread.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 23, 2009, 02:35:53 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on March 23, 2009, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 23, 2009, 02:18:39 PM
Great win on Saturday..pity we sacrificed the UEFA Cup though. Beating Chelsea and Liverpool and running Man Ure to penalties in the Carling Cup Final shows we are a match for anyone, and Robbie's return has been instrumental in the upturn in fortunes.
Great to see Lennon extending his contract, hopefully the the likes of the debt ridden Liverpool and Man Ure will keeps their hands off.
King back in the England squad is good news also and at last Modric is beginning to show his true class
Cant wait for next season. ;D
PS A horse called King Ledley won at 4/1 at the Curragh yesterday. How did we miss that?
Tottenham are shite T fearon, pure shite in fact
There you have it then, thats the end of this thread.
Although Wilson Palacios & Luka Modric are quality, my first comment still stands
Another good result yesterday, left it a bit edgy as the game wore on though. Wouldn't have imagined us being in the hunt for 7th after that awful start to the season, and still being hovering around the relegation places at Christmas, but it's been a fair turnaround. Difficult run-in though - United and Liverpool (away on last day) to come, with Everton away too. WBA should be a win, and Man City at home would appear winnable too. Might just miss out on 7th, though West Ham's run-in isn't too simple, indeed Fulham could sneak it yet. And it seems that would suit Harry just fine.
And was anyone sorry to see Berbatov's woeful effort at a penalty saved yesterday? At least he avoided doing that when it was needed last season. That £30m doesn't seem to be bad business now.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on April 20, 2009, 10:27:25 PM
Another good result yesterday, left it a bit edgy as the game wore on though. Wouldn't have imagined us being in the hunt for 7th after that awful start to the season, and still being hovering around the relegation places at Christmas, but it's been a fair turnaround. Difficult run-in though - United and Liverpool (away on last day) to come, with Everton away too. WBA should be a win, and Man City at home would appear winnable too. Might just miss out on 7th, though West Ham's run-in isn't too simple, indeed Fulham could sneak it yet. And it seems that would suit Harry just fine.
And was anyone sorry to see Berbatov's woeful effort at a penalty saved yesterday? At least he avoided doing that when it was needed last season. That £30m doesn't seem to be bad business now.
What makes you think harry wouldn't care OMS? Just his attitude this year? I'd assume that so long as Spurs aren't fighting relegation (hugely unlikely) that he'd take the Europa League seriously.
Be interesting to see how Spurs spend in the summer. Should be up thee with Villa and Everton (with City to join them soon) but awful starts have hampered them for the last 2 years.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 21, 2009, 12:04:02 AM
What makes you think harry wouldn't care OMS? Just his attitude this year? I'd assume that so long as Spurs aren't fighting relegation (hugely unlikely) that he'd take the Europa League seriously.
Be interesting to see how Spurs spend in the summer. Should be up thee with Villa and Everton (with City to join them soon) but awful starts have hampered them for the last 2 years.
This would make me suspect that may be the case:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/tottenham/5187130/Tottenhams-Harry-Redknapp-says-Europa-League-qualification-would-be-distracting.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/tottenham/5187130/Tottenhams-Harry-Redknapp-says-Europa-League-qualification-would-be-distracting.html)
You would want to be making the last eight at a bare minimum for it to be a worthwhile venture IMO. Still we mightn't get that seventh spot yet, so it might be a irrelevant issue in time.
Fair point re the bad starts. Though three seasons ago we didn't make an encouraging start and yet ended up getting fifth. Should be around there again next season along with Villa & Everton if we can make a half-decent start. Funnily our form is the opposite of the earlier part of this decade, where we'd be well up near Christmas and inevitably fall badly after it.
the mighty spurs. Going for a late european push so that next season they can put out a weakend team in europe to concentrate on the league to get back into europe, awesome. up the gooners
Quote from: nutsy--1 on April 21, 2009, 08:54:37 AM
the mighty spurs. Going for a late european push so that next season they can put out a weakend team in europe to concentrate on the league to get back into europe, awesome. up the gooners
No they are trying to finish as high up the table as they can, the same as every club does.
Irony is that it looks like Jol could take Hamburg to the UEFA Cup Final, something he failed to do with Spurs after much promise.
I think we need to get back next year to focus on challenging the top four in the league, for a Champions League place. After all we would be doing it this year but for the disastrous first couple of months
Quote from: T Fearon on April 21, 2009, 11:15:07 AM
Irony is that it looks like Jol could take Hamburg to the UEFA Cup Final, something he failed to do with Spurs after much promise.
I think we need to get back next year to focus on challenging the top four in the league, for a Champions League place. After all we would be doing it this year but for the disastrous first couple of months
Seems to be the start that is key for spurs. Is it the last 2 seasons that they have been in the bottom 3 in October/November? If they start well i think they will be in the top 6 next season
Quote from: T Fearon on April 21, 2009, 11:15:07 AM
Irony is that it looks like Jol could take Hamburg to the UEFA Cup Final, something he failed to do with Spurs after much promise.
I think we need to get back next year to focus on challenging the top four in the league, for a Champions League place. After all we would be doing it this year but for the disastrous first couple of months
Not really ironic, he seems to have a better team with Hamburg.
Quote from: nutsy--1 on April 21, 2009, 08:54:37 AM
the mighty spurs. Going for a late european push so that next season they can put out a weakend team in europe to concentrate on the league to get back into europe, awesome. up the gooners
In fairness, there was a weakened team put out as the Carling Cup final was on the following Sunday, and Harry opted to put that first, as it was winning a trophy, and indeed securing a European spot with it. Didn't happen as we know well. You might understand that though, looking to win a trophy, given that the awesome Gooners haven't managed to win any for the past few seasons. And congratulations on finishing bottom of the 'big four' contest once again.
Jermain Defoes brother on life support machine after getting attacked in broad daylght today.
Quote from: Minder on April 24, 2009, 09:38:14 PM
Jermain Defoes brother on life support machine after getting attacked in broad daylght today.
f**k sake. god bless him. hope we can keep our good record against the 'big 4' tomorrow
he died last night.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8018192.stm
Symapthy to Jermaine Defoe.
How many times are we going to be robbed at Lego Land? Mendes "goal" in 2005 and that ridiculous penalty last Saturday (which should have strengthened our resolve not cause us to fall apart, though the lads were probably thinking whats the point?)
Should we just not bothe rgoing to Old Trafford and forfeit the points...as we are never goung to be allowed to win them anyway?
Catch a f**king grip of yourself Tony
The spuds had a good first half, but would never have held on for the win, even without the penalty
No belief in that team
A bad week in the true context for Spurs players. Defoe and Polacios' brothers both murdered!
Nightmare for the two lads God bless them! Puts football into perspective really.
On a seperate note does anyone know how much onehotspur membership is? Would like to get to a few games next season
Ledley King arrested?
It must be pleasing to all true Spurs fans that Ledley's knee stood up to the rigours of a full ninety minutes against Everton and also the strains associated with causing mayhem in a nightclub...all on the same day!
Just got a ticket there for the Spurs V Man Ure game at the Lane on Sept 12th ;D
Spurs top six this year ?
Hopefully with the added stability and challenging for the top four. After all if Villa and Everton can sustain a challenge its the very least Spurs should aspire to.
Looking forward to see Man Ure, in fact I have never seen them win in the flesh since they beat Spurs at legoland in December 1983, have saw them get beaten by Spurs back in 1999 and also by Celtic in 2006 and drawing with Celtic in 2008.
Still think they really need a midfield partner for Palacios as Jenas just isn't consistent enough and Thudd isn't mobile enough but is a great passer of the ball.
Also I see Spurs are in for Bassong, a Centre half should be top priority considering King is always injured, Woodgate is often injured and Dawson is currently injured, not exactly a nice position to be in with the league only around the corner.
Top six would be a success this season for Spurs and I think they have a chance.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 04, 2009, 03:45:02 PM
Still think they really need a midfield partner for Palacios as Jenas just isn't consistent enough and Thudd isn't mobile enough but is a great passer of the ball.
Also I see Spurs are in for Bassong, a Centre half should be top priority considering King is always injured, Woodgate is often injured and Dawson is currently injured, not exactly a nice position to be in with the league only around the corner.
Top six would be a success this season for Spurs and I think they have a chance.
With the squad and manager ye have its a necessity!
Darren Bent passes medical at Sunderland
He never passed anything well, including the ball, in a Spurs jersey. ;D
What do you reckon Harry's striking pair will be given he played Robbie last week in a midfield role? Seems like he has Crouch/Defoe in mind. Not sure if Robbie could cut it in midfield, his natural instinct is to head fr goal without passing etc
Hoddle, Ardiles and Peryman were on Sky's 'Time of our lives' last night. Ossie still sounds the same as he did 30 years ago - the Jan Molby effect did not apply to him!
Quote from: T Fearon on August 05, 2009, 09:32:16 AM
He never passed anything well, including the ball, in a Spurs jersey. ;D
What do you reckon Harry's striking pair will be given he played Robbie last week in a midfield role? Seems like he has Crouch/Defoe in mind. Not sure if Robbie could cut it in midfield, his natural instinct is to head fr goal without passing etc
The Crouch/Defoe combo that Harry had at Portsmouth seems the most likely, strange because Keane is the captain and I don't think he would be effective in midfield, personally I think he was rubbish for both Liverpool and Spurs last season anyway.
Last season was a bit of a write off for Keane. His disastrous move to Liverpool tooks its toll on the lad's confidence. I am expecting big things from him this year though, both for club and country, but as a striker. I also think we need to see Modric play to his capability this year and if this is the case, and Lennon reproduces last season's form, and Gomes is assured in goal (unlike the early part of last season) we can look forward with optimism
Well just goes to show the grass isn't always greener on the other side re Keane.
Personally I wouldn't have him in the starting lineup especially not in a midfield capacity.
Modric last year was one of Spurs best performers alongside Lennon but there is definitely room for improvement, accomodating him might be the problem as I'm not a fan of playing him on the left.
I see 'Arry has answered a question from me in the August 09 edition of Hotspur Magazine ;D
Brilliant result and performance against the bin dippers yesterday..if only the Robster had been on form in front of goal we might have won 5 or 6 ;D
I feel this is going to be a seriously good season, the shape and balance of the team is solid, tight at the back, pace and power in midfield and plenty of goals up front in Defoe, Keane and Crouch, even though they weren't needed yesterday.
Quote from: T Fearon on August 17, 2009, 08:59:45 AM
Brilliant result and performance against the bin dippers yesterday..if only the Robster had been on form in front of goal we might have won 5 or 6 ;D
I feel this is going to be a seriously good season, the shape and balance of the team is solid, tight at the back, pace and power in midfield and plenty of goals up front in Defoe, Keane and Crouch, even though they weren't needed yesterday.
Spurs did look good yesterday Tony but I wonder was it a case of Liverpool making them look good. Liverpool have had a terrible pre-season and it has carried into the first league game. I will reserve judgement on Spurs for another few games yet.
Considering we usually lose the first game to shite like Sunderland it was a great performance and start yesterday and should be built upon with another 3 points at Hull on Wednesday.
In recent seasons we have had disastrous starts yet still finished well up the league, so who knows what can be achieved with a good start.
Do you feel that Bassong has done enough to keep Woodgate/Dawson out of the starting line up?
Looking at that spurs team yesterday they have spent some money assembling that squad.
Bassong certainly looked the part yesterday and took his goal very well, he will be hard to shift. With both Woodgate and King prone to injury he gives a lot of options. Injuries to key players without adequare replacements have cost Spurs big time in the last 10 to 15 years.
King isn't travelling for the next game apparently. So there's a spot for Bassong there.
How King is going to manage when he retires is beyond me.
Come on you spurs.
King doesn't tend to play more than one game a week now so it could be a case of Corluka moving into the middle with Hutton coming into the right back slot. Hull won't be easy as shown by their performance at the weekend against Chelski though, it would typical of spurs to lose this one.
I think Arry has got rid of that tosisng points away against crap teams syndrome. The team showed great character on Sunday after Gerrard's equaliser to go on and win the game, previous Spurs teams would have lost that one.
Quote from: T Fearon on August 18, 2009, 12:08:51 PM
I think Arry has got rid of that tosisng points away against crap teams syndrome. The team showed great character on Sunday after Gerrard's equaliser to go on and win the game, previous Spurs teams would have lost that one.
Spurs home form was always good (think I heard it was the best in the league last season) and it has been their away form that has let them down so I wouldn't be counting my chickens yet until they can sustain good performances and results against the 'lesser' teams away from home.
Last season Spurs also beat Liverpool at home.
They also beat Hull away last season and I would expect a similar result tomorrow night
Quote from: T Fearon on August 18, 2009, 12:12:01 PM
They also beat Hull away last season and I would expect a similar result tomorrow night
That's right, they just managed to get beat by them at WHL.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 18, 2009, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on August 18, 2009, 12:08:51 PM
I think Arry has got rid of that tosisng points away against crap teams syndrome. The team showed great character on Sunday after Gerrard's equaliser to go on and win the game, previous Spurs teams would have lost that one.
Spurs home form was always good (think I heard it was the best in the league last season) and it has been their away form that has let them down so I wouldn't be counting my chickens yet until they can sustain good performances and results against the 'lesser' teams away from home.
Last season Spurs also beat Liverpool at home.
You heard wrong. They were 7th best at home last season!
Quote from: EC Unique on August 18, 2009, 12:22:54 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 18, 2009, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on August 18, 2009, 12:08:51 PM
I think Arry has got rid of that tosisng points away against crap teams syndrome. The team showed great character on Sunday after Gerrard's equaliser to go on and win the game, previous Spurs teams would have lost that one.
Spurs home form was always good (think I heard it was the best in the league last season) and it has been their away form that has let them down so I wouldn't be counting my chickens yet until they can sustain good performances and results against the 'lesser' teams away from home.
Last season Spurs also beat Liverpool at home.
You heard wrong. They were 7th best at home last season!
Forgot to include since Harry was at the helm :D
Well they are 10/11 to win at Hull tomorrow night and I'll be having a slice of that ;)
Should change the title to 'league contenders' :P
Looked amazing at times tonight and Keane played superbly
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 19, 2009, 09:51:43 PM
Should change the title to 'league contenders' :P
Looked amazing at times tonight and Keane played superbly
Yes, after beating a world class Hull team. ::) Hull played like shite, spurs had a good day.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 19, 2009, 09:53:48 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 19, 2009, 09:51:43 PM
Should change the title to 'league contenders' :P
Looked amazing at times tonight and Keane played superbly
Yes, after beating a world class Hull team. ::) Hull played like shite, spurs had a good day.
I know you really aren't as dour as you make out, tongue in cheek obviously and apparently Liverpool are world-class and they were bossed by Spurs.
QuoteHull played like shite, spurs had a good day.
Tell me, where did you watch the game?
Quote from: thewobbler on August 19, 2009, 09:58:10 PM
QuoteHull played like shite, spurs had a good day.
Tell me, where did you watch the game?
Watched it online here http://www.magedtv.net/ch2.html
Obviously EP didn't watch it, just being his usual online confrontational persona..
Quote from: thewobbler on August 19, 2009, 09:58:10 PM
QuoteHull played like shite, spurs had a good day.
Tell me, where did you watch the game?
I didn't. Just trying to p iss of DennisTM
Fair play Tottenham, a quality performance and this shows that they are truly competitors for the Champions League place. Top of the table now, and I wouldn't bet against them staying there for a while. Its hard not to get carried away when a team is as good as this.
Top six would be realistic and progress under HR.
Palacios certainly adds that bit of steel that has long been missing at Spurs.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 19, 2009, 10:01:08 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 19, 2009, 09:58:10 PM
QuoteHull played like shite, spurs had a good day.
Tell me, where did you watch the game?
Watched it online here http://www.magedtv.net/ch2.html
Obviously EP didn't watch it, just being his usual online confrontational persona..
What was quality like?
Tried watching that and a few other streams DtM, but they were a juddery mess. Was reduced to BBC London Radio.
By the sound of things Hudd, Keane and Defoe were outstanding.
There's a better balance to this Spurs side than there has been since money took over the game. Apart from his penchant for signing right-backs, Harry's shown a sound understanding of how to build a team and a squad.
Great win for Spurs tonight!! I'll even force myself to sit up and watch Match of the Day.
Feck Defoe can fairly smack a ball
Defoe is in great form. Keane scored a good goal. As much as Spurs were good tonight, Hull were rubbish, especially their defending.
Jermaine Defoe and Robbie Keano
Jermaine Defoe and Robbie Keano!
This is where Martin Jol ultimately went wrong, failing to play these two together regularly!
Fecking promising bet last night, Spurs, Newcastle and Birmingham, two even monies and a 4/5 but Notts Co and Sven let me down at 6/4 :'(
Quote from: T Fearon on August 20, 2009, 09:09:52 AM
Jermaine Defoe and Robbie Keano
Jermaine Defoe and Robbie Keano!
This is where Martin Jol ultimately went wrong, failing to play these two together regularly!
Fecking promising bet last night, Spurs, Newcastle and Birmingham, two even monies and a 4/5 but Notts Co and Sven let me down at 6/4 :'(
Defoe and Keane weren't a good partnership together in the Jol era and I'm still sceptical about them playing together but the fact that Defoe has bulked up and can hold the ball up much much better than previous seasons might make it work a little bit better. Again it was 'only' Hull (who I think are certs for relegation) but it is promising.
I'm no Crouch fan though and the jury is certainly still out on Pav.
I think Spurs will win the league.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 21, 2009, 06:03:29 PM
I think Spurs will win the league.
7 goals from 2 games isn't a bad reurn alright.
I seriously think Spurs ave the team and more importantly the squad to challenge for a top 4 spot!
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 22, 2009, 09:53:08 AM
I seriously think Spurs ave the team and more importantly the squad to challenge for a top 4 spot!
Just because 'arry speaks like that doesnt mean you all have to!
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 22, 2009, 09:53:08 AM
I seriously think Spurs ave the team and more importantly the squad to challenge for a top 4 spot!
You on drugs Mickey?
Maybe you can beat UTD to it...Can't wait to St Totterings day again!
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 22, 2009, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 22, 2009, 09:53:08 AM
I seriously think Spurs ave the team and more importantly the squad to challenge for a top 4 spot!
You on drugs Mickey?
Maybe you can beat UTD to it...Can't wait to St Totterings day again!
Ye never know Pat......sure didn't Everton qualify with half a team? And sure Burnley beat Unite anything could happen now!
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 22, 2009, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 22, 2009, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 22, 2009, 09:53:08 AM
I seriously think Spurs ave the team and more importantly the squad to challenge for a top 4 spot!
You on drugs Mickey?
Maybe you can beat UTD to it...Can't wait to St Totterings day again!
Ye never know Pat......sure didn't Everton qualify with half a team? And sure Burnley beat Unite anything could happen now!
There is an outside chance of Spurs finishing top four, bookies have them at 11/4 which I still think is a bit short considering how much the sky four has been a closed shop in recent seasons, not to mentipn the Citeh factor.
As I've said before top six would be a success this season.
I'd be content with 6th, will be hard to dislodge the Sky four, plus City could be able to gel and make a good run of it, so it would be some going to finish higher. At least Villa and possibly Everton haven't kicked on or are going backwards, so 6th is well within our grasp.
2-1 at the moment, going back to the top tonight if it stays that way. Always a sweet one to beat those c***ts.
If Palacios doesn't miss too many games over the season then Spurs won't be far off Champions League places. They've more strength in depth across the board than anyone except Chelsea. But there's nobody to replace Wilson - not with the attacking nature of the rest of Harry's midfield anyhow.
i have been following Spurs for the past twenty years, why do we always set uorselves to be laughed at. Wait til Christmas before making top 4 comments. Todays performance was very shaky in spots and we were very lucky to end up with all three points. If we finish top 6 and a cup final, great, as for top 4, we are miles away yet in terms of the team and mental strenght.
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on August 23, 2009, 05:53:03 PM
i have been following Spurs for the past twenty years, why do we always set uorselves to be laughed at. Wait til Christmas before making top 4 comments. Todays performance was very shaky in spots and we were very lucky to end up with all three points. If we finish top 6 and a cup final, great, as for top 4, we are miles away yet in terms of the team and mental strenght.
Jesus, Tourmakeady, Mayo and Spurs. Not easy for ya is it! ;)
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 23, 2009, 05:56:28 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on August 23, 2009, 05:53:03 PM
i have been following Spurs for the past twenty years, why do we always set uorselves to be laughed at. Wait til Christmas before making top 4 comments. Todays performance was very shaky in spots and we were very lucky to end up with all three points. If we finish top 6 and a cup final, great, as for top 4, we are miles away yet in terms of the team and mental strenght.
Jesus, Tourmakeady, Mayo and Spurs. Not easy for ya is it! ;)
It will some treble though when it comes up!" :D
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 22, 2009, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 22, 2009, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 22, 2009, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 22, 2009, 09:53:08 AM
I seriously think Spurs ave the team and more importantly the squad to challenge for a top 4 spot!
You on drugs Mickey?
Maybe you can beat UTD to it...Can't wait to St Totterings day again!
Ye never know Pat......sure didn't Everton qualify with half a team? And sure Burnley beat Unite anything could happen now!
There is an outside chance of Spurs finishing top four, bookies have them at 11/4 which I still think is a bit short considering how much the sky four has been a closed shop in recent seasons, not to mentipn the Citeh factor.
As I've said before top six would be a success this season.
i think spurs and city will be way ahead of everyone else in the race for 5th place, and I think that the gap between the top 4 and the rest is slowly closing, helped to no end by City.
Quote from: T Fearon on August 24, 2009, 04:52:38 PM
An easy three points against Birmingham at home this weekend will set us up nicely for the visit of Man Ure on Sept 12th a game I will be attending. ;D
Blind loyalty Tony is admirable but do not count your chickens, you have had egg on your face too many times on here ;)
I don't see how making 7 changes from your 1st team is a signal that your are taking the Carling Cup seriously.
Quote from: T Fearon on August 27, 2009, 12:32:40 PM
Another super show last night, 5-1 away to a Championship side is not to be sniffed at, particularly with a weakened side.
But should we taking the Carling Cup so seriously when we have bigger fish to fry?
We play a weakened side yet we're taking it so seriously ? Hmmmm.
Carling Cup is still our most realistic chance of a trophy this season albeit it one that isn't held in that high regard but it still shouldn't be snubbed altogether.
Modric broke his leg yesterday.
Bad news for spooors, 'arry says he might have to dip into the transfer market yet again.
Lennon seems to have added an end product to his game this season, he has impressed me thus far.
Crouch will not be happy coming off the bench all season, Keanes position may be under threat if Crouch proves his worth during his game time on the pitch.
Quote from: stiffler on August 30, 2009, 10:23:27 AM
Bad news for spooors, 'arry says he might have to dip into the transfer market yet again.
Lennon seems to have added an end product to his game this season, he has impressed me thus far.
Crouch will not be happy coming off the bench all season, Keanes position may be under threat if Crouch proves his worth during his game time on the pitch.
Keane and Defoe are in flying form at the moment. Crouch is no threat to keane especially now that Modric is injured. keane will be playing a more midfield role in the upcoming games and as well as that he is captain.
Kranjkar for 2.5 million - bargain! Hope Petrov comes in as well to finally have an out and out left midfielder in the squad.
Quote from: tyroneboi on September 01, 2009, 11:51:25 AM
Kranjkar for 2.5 million - bargain! Hope Petrov comes in as well to finally have an out and out left midfielder in the squad.
Talks of Anton Ferdinand now as well
Glad Spurs didn't get Martin Petrov, though he wanted to go. Someone must have been taking the piss if they were suggesting City would pay £10million + Petrov for Bentley.
Heading over tot he Burnley game in two weeks time. Can anyone reccomend a good bar close tot he ground for a couple of pre match pints?
Klinsmann got 4 against Wimbledon in the 90s.
Quote from: T Fearon on September 28, 2009, 10:52:49 AM
Great result on Saturday and could easily have been a replica of the 9 nil win ove Bristol Rovers in 1977.
Incidentally, regarding Robbie's four goals, is that the first time a Spurs player has netted four times in a competitive game since Colin Lee did against Bristol Rovers 32 years ago?
I certainly can't think of anyone since, though we have given a few teams some good hidings, not least Drogheda Utd in the UEFA Cup in the mid 80s>
(http://images.google.ie/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/21/article-0-024D929900000578-42_306x480.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHUSqCvsLqIpVVD-wAEP-OfwEYRvw)
Man Utd's London feeder club is doing quite well. I'd say Sir Alex will be back for a bit of shopping in January.
Quote from: T Fearon on September 14, 2009, 02:25:21 PM
Loads of good Spurs pubs around the ground, you'll have no problem
Gilpins Bell or Rising Sun in Edmonton Angel
Quote from: T Fearon on October 19, 2009, 04:20:12 PM
Great start to the season continues, and we should collect another three points at home to Stoke on Saturday, and a relativelty easy few games (on paper) coming up
Is it time to remove Liverpool from the big four and move City in there instead? The spuds are also knocking at the door and fair play to them for that.
Was just thinking there - November 1999 - almost 10 years now since the Spuds last beat Arsenal in the league. Quite remarkable.
There's a lot of things Spurs have been doing this season that they haven't done in a decade or more.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1227214/To/index.html
Spurs veteran Carlo Cudicini has been taken to hospital with a suspected broken pelvis after a road smash. The Italian stopper is reported to have been injured after crashing his BMW motorbike in Walthamstow in east London.
Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper Carlo Cudicini has suffered "potentially life-changing injuries" in a motorbike accident in east London, police said.
Spurs 9 Wigan 1 :o :o :o :o
Didnt see that coming. 1-0 at half time and a 7 minute for Jermaine Defoe. Im just raging I took him out of my fantasy football team.
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on November 22, 2009, 04:59:39 PM
Didnt see that coming. 1-0 at half time and a 7 minute for Jermaine Defoe. Im just raging I took him out of my fantasy football team.
Stuck him in this weekend :D
Sublime 2nd half. Wigan stood off and let them play football, and these fellas can really play football. Lennon, Defoe, Huddlestone and Kranjcar all oustanding.
Wonder where Tony is? sure he will probably start a new thread anyway
Great win for Spurs! ;D Can't wait till Match of the Day the night!
Bloody hell. Spurs must be brilliant today. It won't be long now until ye have the Premier League trophy paraded around White Hart Lane!!!
f**k me they could have scored at least 5 more!
Quote from: stiffler on November 22, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on November 22, 2009, 04:59:39 PM
Didnt see that coming. 1-0 at half time and a 7 minute for Jermaine Defoe. Im just raging I took him out of my fantasy football team.
Stuck him in this weekend :D
Don't f**king talk. The boy near the top of ours had him as captain!
Some result for Spurs. That has to be a one off though and Spurs aren't as good as the result sounds, though Wigan might just be as bad as the result was :D
Wigan were absolutly awful. Lost count how many goals came from sloppy Wigan play. They just didnt look interested.
Apparently Spuds have brought out 9 DVDs tonight, one for each goal.
The Wigan goal was clearly handball - hope they do the decent thing and offer a replay!! :P
WIGAN TO OFFER SPURS A REPLAY
Four days after Thierry Henry's handball shamed a nation, Wigan's badger-headed utility man Paul Scharner showed a duplicitous side befitting a man with two separate haircuts.
During yesterday's game against Tottenham, the Austrian used his right arm to control a cross before volleying the ball past Heurelho Gomes.
He then exacerbated his crime by brazenly celebrating the goal and refusing to tell referee Peter Walton what he had done.
Although Scharner's crime was clear to viewers around the world, Walton and his officiating team were denied access to incriminating TV footage, and the goal will tarnish the record books for ever more.
Scharner has trashed his own reputation and that of the game he professes to love. He has shown up football's authorities and set the worst possible example for the millions of children who worship the very ground he walks on.
In perpetrating a massive and shameless fraud, he has made life just that little bit less worth living for you, me and the entire human race.
With Scharner showing no remorse and the FA sitting impotently on their hands, it is up to Wigan to show that some things are not worth sacrificing in order to score a goal, and that dignity and morality still has a place in football.
Wigan must offer to replay the game.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/213984/
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2009, 11:22:06 AM
WIGAN TO OFFER SPURS A REPLAY
Four days after Thierry Henry's handball shamed a nation, Wigan's badger-headed utility man Paul Scharner showed a duplicitous side befitting a man with two separate haircuts.
During yesterday's game against Tottenham, the Austrian used his right arm to control a cross before volleying the ball past Heurelho Gomes.
He then exacerbated his crime by brazenly celebrating the goal and refusing to tell referee Peter Walton what he had done.
Although Scharner's crime was clear to viewers around the world, Walton and his officiating team were denied access to incriminating TV footage, and the goal will tarnish the record books for ever more.
Scharner has trashed his own reputation and that of the game he professes to love. He has shown up football's authorities and set the worst possible example for the millions of children who worship the very ground he walks on.
In perpetrating a massive and shameless fraud, he has made life just that little bit less worth living for you, me and the entire human race.
With Scharner showing no remorse and the FA sitting impotently on their hands, it is up to Wigan to show that some things are not worth sacrificing in order to score a goal, and that dignity and morality still has a place in football.
Wigan must offer to replay the game.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/213984/
You know making up stuff.
Whats Spurs best eleven? Bit of a selection headache for Arry. Not a bad problem to have tho!
Keane to stay where he was on Sunday for a start. Modric to came back in quite soon, dont know where( i never thought i'd ever say that). Niko K the bargain of the year 2.5 million? How the 'pool cold do with him, he is turning into a super playmaker. Hudd undroppable at the moment and Pav, Bentley on the bench as well. O Hara due back in Jan is currently playing great stuff in a down beat team. 'Arry is the man of the moment. In 25 years following them this is turning out ot be as good as any of them. Hopefully we can maintain top 4-6 til jan. Then we will be in the driving seat. A good center back in the Jan as well as a bit of cover for BAE. Other than that happy days! Two tough 6 pointers coming up Villa and Everton both away, i think.
FFS >:(Once again two points thrown away when they should have been in the bag against a bunch of mediocrities. Will we ever stop shooting ourselves in the ass never mind the feet >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: T Fearon on December 06, 2009, 06:27:16 PM
FFS >:(Once again two points thrown away when they should have been in the bag against a bunch of mediocrities. Will we ever stop shooting ourselves in the ass never mind the feet >:( >:( >:(
There are a few of us who would pay to watch that.
Have we done the Trunk yet?
1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwE_CrjxahI
2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBgYtVpnHQ4
3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHk1_C53d1s
4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6dzxcNsNc
5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2mH9Jb-wb8
6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpAlKGnnHeM
7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuEmR1T95B4
8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qacOoLB7t7U
Thats 5 points tossed away in two games, that had they been won, would have taken us to the fringes of a title challenge, never mind a top four place. What the fcuk is happening? >:(
Quote from: T Fearon on December 15, 2009, 06:27:29 PM
Thats 5 points tossed away in two games, that had they been won, would have taken us to the fringes of a title challenge, never mind a top four place. What the fcuk is happening? >:(
Normal service?
Normal service resumed.....
Great win tonight and another Man of the Match performance from Aaron Lennon.
And we still have Modric to come back in......
Modric might not get back in such is the form of Kranjcaer. Great 2nd goal from him. Lennon is unplayable at times. Spurs bossed the game from start to finsh and well deserved the win. Will be a tight season with Spurs, Villa and City all chasing the big 4.
What we need is consistency and an absolute stop to dropping points to shite like Wolves and throwing away 2 goal leads.
That was a massive win for us. City are no great shakes and i always feel Villa will fall away as thay have done in the past, their squad is a bit light. Still dont think we are nearly consistent enough for top 4, but if we are still fifth after christmas i'll be happy. What a difference thos points dropped at home to Stoke and Wolves would make to our position now. Also poor old Cesc F is crocked as well, so a great night last night all in.
What none of us want is a repeat of 2006 when we blew it at West Ham on the last day. Thats why its crucial that no more silly points are dropped. Villa and Liverpool are our only realistic challengers and I feel Villa pose the greatest threat of all, as they have squad depth this year and O'Neill is as good a manager as there is in the Premiership
Quote from: T Fearon on December 17, 2009, 04:47:34 PM
What none of us want is a repeat of 2006 when we blew it at West Ham on the last day. Thats why its crucial that no more silly points are dropped. Villa and Liverpool are our only realistic challengers and I feel Villa pose the greatest threat of all, as they have squad depth this year and O'Neill is as good a manager as there is in the Premiership
Well stay away from dodgy lasagna then.
Only the spuds could find a reason such as that to justify not qualifying for the CL.
Whats this about a group of players secretly travelling to Dublin a few days before the Wolves defeat for a Christmas Party? Harry's going ape shit apparently :o
I was in Gibneys in Malahide when they were there. A fella I work with knew they were coming. They were in a sectioned off area at the end of the bar tho we could still see them all.
One of the boys I work with then ended up drinking with them in Coppers. They ordered burgers and chips from somewhere late on and got them delivered. Apparantly big Tom Hudd had a field day!
Quote from: T Fearon on December 18, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Whats this about a group of players secretly travelling to Dublin a few days before the Wolves defeat for a Christmas Party? Harry's going ape shit apparently :o
Jaysus Tony, thought that was well known. It was on a good few forums about their movements round the city at the time.
Quote from: bingobus on December 18, 2009, 02:39:06 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 18, 2009, 02:18:51 PM
Whats this about a group of players secretly travelling to Dublin a few days before the Wolves defeat for a Christmas Party? Harry's going ape shit apparently :o
Jaysus Tony, thought that was well known. It was on a good few forums about their movements round the city at the time.
It makes 'arry look an even bigger twat than he is already, given his lecture on morality of Christmas parties last week, 'my players can go out and celebrate when they have won something' :D
Robbie Keane organised it all allegedly. He was keen of beering in his short time in Liverpool too, allegedly.
Robbie Keane will be gone in January, allegedly
Well they seem to have well and truy got over it against Abu Dhabi last Wednesday night! ;D
Routine 3 points against the hammers to-day and 4 consecutive clean sheets. Great to see Modric back with a goal. Heading over on Jan 16th to see the annihilation of Hull ;D
Keane out in January?? Definately dropped down the pecking order
Awful string of results lately culminating in that defeat by Wolves last night. 0 points from two games aginst Wolves simply isnt good enough. The way Spurs are playing the will be lucky finishing 7th.
Harry Redknapp surely has to take the blame for this? He still doesnt know his best side. Constant changes, especially in the back line wont work.
Agreed. Bring back Jol! ;D
Spurs are a watery team with no backbone, all pretty footballers but no workers.
QuoteHeading over on Jan 16th to see the annihilation of Hull
Would that have been the 0-0 annihilation?
Another three yesterday to follow up the nine scored last November at the Lane, Great to see Pavlychenko among the goals (the best of this player is yet to come) and also peased with the clean sheet.
Hopefully we will proceed to tie down the fourth position and jesus, had it not been for dropping silly points to Wolves home and away and drawing at home with Hull etc we could have been challenging for the title.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 22, 2010, 01:24:19 PM
Another three yesterday to follow up the nine scored last November at the Lane, Great to see Pavlychenko among the goals (the best of this player is yet to come) and also peased with the clean sheet.
Hopefully we will proceed to tie down the fourth position and jesus, had it not been for dropping silly points to Wolves home and away and drawing at home with Hull etc we could have been challenging for the title.
And people reckon Liverpool fans are deluded :D :D :D :D :D
As a Spurs fan.............. ::) finish 6th and maybe a cup final.
Tony - you must be mellowing in your old age. This thread would have been started last week some time in years past, virtually guaranteeing a Wigan victory!
4 nil tonight against Bolton, can we play Lancashire sides every week ;D
PS Are the FA Cup semi finals played at Wembley? If so I mght head over as we're bound to beat Fulham in the next round
Quote from: T Fearon on February 24, 2010, 10:05:03 PM
4 nil tonight against Bolton, can we play Lancashire sides every week ;D
PS Are the FA Cup semi finals played at Wembley? If so I mght head over as we're bound to beat Fulham in the next round
You lot can play all Lancashire sides every week, Manchester is part of Lancashire too isn't it? ;)
Quote from: T Fearon on February 24, 2010, 10:05:03 PM
4 nil tonight against Bolton, can we play Lancashire sides every week ;D
PS Are the FA Cup semi finals played at Wembley? If so I mght head over as we're bound to beat Fulham in the next round
i would fancy fulham at home & yes semi finals are at wembley
Definitely will head over then, as a club member I should get a ticket for the semis, though I wouldn't have nearly enough loyalty points for a ticket for the final. Was at the 2001 semi at Old Trafford, when we lost to the Arse 2-1.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/8538594.stm
More dodgy lasagne :D
Dodgy lasagne or not.....great win the day!! Modric's goal was a peach.
If we can repeat that first half performance for the rest of the season fourth place is a certainty, though we have difficult games ahead against Man Ure, Man City, Chelsea and the Goons
Routine 3-1 win against Blackburn. Could have scored a few more and had a cast iron penalty not awarded as well. Great to see Bale and Pavluychenko's continued great form. We will need a big high quality squad for the Champions League next year ;D
Gareth Bale is showing the form that could make him one of the best LBs in Europe. He was outstanding again today, and credit to Harry for perservering with him.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 13, 2010, 10:42:03 PM
Gareth Bale is showing the form that could make him one of the best LBs in Europe. He was outstanding again today, and credit to Harry for perservering with him.
He still looks like a monkey though, and that is ok to say because he is white.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 13, 2010, 10:42:03 PM
Gareth Bale is showing the form that could make him one of the best LBs in Europe. He was outstanding again today, and credit to Harry for perservering with him.
Was he not playing in midfield?
Quote from: AFS on March 14, 2010, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 13, 2010, 10:42:03 PM
Gareth Bale is showing the form that could make him one of the best LBs in Europe. He was outstanding again today, and credit to Harry for perservering with him.
Was he not playing in midfield?
He was.
Was he? Shows you what you take in when you are on night shift! Earlier statement still applicable.
Just looking at the league table, and if we hadn't dropped silly points home and away to Wolves and at home to Hull we could have been serious title contenders. If we can beat Chelsea, Man Ure and the Goons in the run we might still be ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on March 14, 2010, 11:16:36 AM
Just looking at the league table, and if we hadn't dropped silly points home and away to Wolves and at home to Hull we could have been serious title contenders. If we can beat Chelsea, Man Ure and the Goons in the run we might still be ;D
keep taking the tablets Tony :D, looks like you received one too many knocks to the head from Tony Randall ;)
It was Bill Jennings' and Dudley Marjoram's blows to my head that were the root cause of all my problems ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on March 14, 2010, 11:26:48 AM
It was Bill Jennings' and Dudley Marjoram's blows to my head that were the root cause of all my problems ;D
Lucky that you were an all round sportsman or Uncle Noel would have cuffed your lugs ;)
Good result today where the other 4th place contenders would have been hoping for points to be dropped. Pushing hard for it.
Four wins from eight should be enough for Spurs.
Impressive battling performance from Spurs, especially considering they're down to 12 fit outfield senior players.
Bassong, Kaboul and Gudjohnsen were all outstanding.
Would love to beat Arseholenil to secure our fourth spot and spoil their (feint) title chances ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on March 20, 2010, 10:29:18 PM
Would love to beat Arseholenil to secure our fourth spot and spoil their (feint) title chances ;D
1999 is a long, long time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MrWS0bZqsY&NR=1
Oh what a night. Wembley here we come and Villa and City handing us 4th spot on a plate as well! ;D
PS Make a change winning the cup in a year that doesn't end in 1
Seriously Fearon, Im shiting it here.
Don't be talking it up too much and putting the scud on us!
Good old Spuds did the Arsenal a favour last night means there game on Sat 2 weeks will be postponed, they'll get a nice rest after they win their UCL quarter-final... 8)
What you mean is Spurs will clinch their place in a Cup Final while Arsenal will be on their way out of Europe ;D
We are now 11/8 favourites, ahead of Man Shitty (2/1) to finish fourth...you know what they say about the bookies being seldom wrong ;D
What would you take if you were offered it now - the FA Cup or 4th spot? I am inclined to say the FA Cup because knowing Tottenham they will get the 4th spot and then lose in the qualifier to some crappy Lithuanian or Romanian team. Been a great season and despite what his critics say Harry is proving to be a triffic manager.
I'll be greedy and have them both. But I would opt for fourth spot, if I had to choose. Great to say you supported a Champions League club and it should not be beyond us to at least get into the group stages and indeed the last 16 at the very minimum
Quote from: T Fearon on March 25, 2010, 02:53:23 PM
I'll be greedy and have them both. But I would opt for fourth spot, if I had to choose. Great to say you supported a Champions League club and it should not be beyond us to at least get into the group stages and indeed the last 16 at the very minimum
Not even qualified and you have them in the last 16 :D
Routine 3 points again to-day, and great to see Villa moving out of contention as well. Hey if we won our two games in hand and then beat the Goons at the Lane we would only be 4 points behind them and could aim for a third place finish!
Great to see Stephen Carr's beaming smile after the Birmingham Arsenal game to-day ;D
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
No LEAGUE TITLE FOR THE HAEMORRHOIDS AND CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOOTBALL COMING TO THE LANE NEXT SEASON!!!!!
Hope so Tony, but I can't see mancity slipping up against Utd next weekend given recent form.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 14, 2010, 10:47:48 PM
Hope so Tony, but I can't see mancity slipping up against Utd next weekend given recent form.
I dont know have city as a team been playing that well, Tevez has been doing it all for them, they are the team under huge pressure now to finish 4th, a lot more than Spurs, we all saw haw Mancini reacted to the pressure at Everton a while back. I hope i am right about this. But tonight was a great night.
;D COYS
i can see man u beating city, goons lose any chance of the title at the lane and we get 3 points, il be laughin at all goons for a fortnite.
The big game is Man Shitty V Spurs at Beastlands. I would hope our outstanding record home and away since 2004 (remember they beat us 4-3 when we were 3 up in the Cup) against them and the fact that we have had more pressure games in recent years to deal with, will stand us in good stead.
I am cautiously optimistic that we'll do it ;)
But surely trouncing Arsenal and their title hopes would sweeten any failure to capture 4th place.
I think Man City being a point ahead have the distinct edge with their run in.
You never know with the last game and West Ham desperate to stay up.
Man City v Man Utd
Tottenham v Chelsea
Arsenal v Man City
Man Utd v Tottenham
Tottenham v Bolton
Man City v Aston Villa
Man City v Tottenham
Burnley v Tottenham,
West Ham v Man City
What a day today was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is all. ;D
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on April 17, 2010, 11:27:11 PM
What a day today was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is all. ;D
I concur. just didnt beat em em but beat em up, bring on man ure.
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COYS Tottenham till i die.
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.....and minders IQ comes to the fore, only one monkey bout here, suck it up big lad.
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:41:43 PM
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That's were I've seen him before...cheers Minder
Wow wat a backup for minder ::) No wait ive just seen the avatar..HAHAHAHA...
Yeah what a week!
We're going to win the league, we're going to win the league!
Oh thats right we're not :(
Keep it in the pants Marty, thats a good boy!
Well, there in guarantee,you will either! Doth having beaten Chelski and the Librarians in 3 days, show us how many other teams have done that this season. Jealously doesnt suit you! ;D
Quote from: Marty2002 on April 18, 2010, 01:49:24 AM
Wow wat a backup for minder ::) No wait ive just seen the avatar..HAHAHAHA...
I'll ask your permission in future, whether or not I can post on an open forum so ::)
A spuds fan laughing at a Pool one, now I've heard it all...
I think they can this season in fairness! :D
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 18, 2010, 09:22:11 PM
I think they can this season in fairness! :D
Thing is they have had a fantastic season and we've had a shite one, yet they aren't guarenteed (yet) to finish above us
Quote from: Hotrocks on April 18, 2010, 12:59:56 PM
Yeah what a week!
We're going to win the league, we're going to win the league!
Oh thats right we're not :(
Keep it in the pants Marty, thats a good boy!
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What a strange post :-\
Bale looks a really good player. Arsenal and Chelsea couldn't handle him at all. He is like Ronaldo in lots of ways tall, strong, fast, great crosser, two footed and can beat most players for pace and has started to score important goals. He must be worth a lot of money now. He is only 20 so is only going to get better.
Quote from: Maiden1 on April 19, 2010, 10:52:31 AM
Bale looks a really good player. Arsenal and Chelsea couldn't handle him at all. He is like Ronaldo in lots of ways tall, strong, fast, great crosser, two footed and can beat most players for pace and has started to score important goals. He must be worth a lot of money now. He is only 20 so is only going to get better.
Great credit to Redknapp for all of this, look at the players who were out of the squad and looked rubbish when he arrived ( Pav, Bale, Bentley etc.). Look at the injuries as well, Sky were shiteing on about Arsenals injury list but every seems to have forgotten ours. if Reknapp is still in the job after october's court case, well the future is looking good regardless of CL football this year or not. No big debt, good overall squad with planty of youth and a highly organised unit. Well done 'arry.
Gareth Bale has come on in leaps and bounds ever since he bore the tag as "never havin won a game" for Tottenham initially. The tenacity in which he destroyed Ferriera is showing he can fulfill his true promise. For someone who was supposed to emulate the greats after his outstandingly young Wales debut, it's about bloody time! :D ;p Pity he had to shine against Chelsea though....
The excitement is building nicely for Wed, expecially with the gOOners doing do so well tonight ;D. The poor professor refusing to shake Big Sams hand tonight sums them up really as sporting losers, and on top of all that Arse- shaving leaving in the summer. Anyway roll on Wed. and a positive result, then who knows!!!!! COYS!
Anybody with a link for the match tonight??
Looks like Crouchie is paying his dues at the Lane. Huge blow for City if they don't get CL action.
He missed an absolute sitter just before the goal.
Fair play to Spurs. They've deserved it tonight and over the season.
Its unusual for the rotund one to be so quiet over the last while. He may have eventually learned the lesson to keep quiet until position is secure. Call me mystic meg but i envisage a return very shortly !
Well done Spurs.
I think they'll be more exciting in the CL than this City side would ever be.
Delighted for Spurs to be honest.
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 05, 2010, 09:58:08 PM
Well done Spurs.
I think they'll be more exciting in the CL than this City side would ever be.
Aye, City are far too negative.
It be a c u n t if they went and lost the qualifier now :D
Fair play to spurs. Good to see a fresh name in the top 4. :)
Shane will no doubt be kind enough to come in and let us know when we can expect the Spuds to fall down dead and fail to qualify for the CL.
Totteringham no more, they are an exciting side that will make the CL better by it's presence and as for City and it's supporters, money dont necessarily buy class. :)
Congrats Spurs i wonder how that result makes Archie Mitchell feel (AWOL since Manchester Derby)
millions more spent than spurs not only did beat city to the CL they did it in by beating City's in there own backyard :o
Well Done
Quote from: EC Unique on May 05, 2010, 10:04:21 PM
Fair play to spurs. Good to see a fresh name in the top 4. :)
Yeah, well done Spurs! Still more work to be done in qualifying for the group stages, so they will be depending on a lucky draw. But for now they are in the right place.
As for Man City, to most they have become the 'New Chelsea' and with that comes begrudgery. Not qualifying is a major blow as they will not attract better players for next season.
well they were bound to lose (City) cause i backed them ;D
ok i'll use that formula on Chelsea at the weekend ;)
Couldn't Spurs finish 3rd and so have less qualifying rounds?
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 05, 2010, 10:12:21 PM
Couldn't Spurs finish 3rd and so have less qualifying rounds?
Finishing 3rd guarantees league stage.
When Aberdeen beat Real Madrid in 1983 Cup Winnners cup Final i'll always remember the Quote...
Alfredo Di Stefano, "Aberdeen have what money can't buy, a soul; a team built in a family tradition"
Spurs might not be quiet that but City can't buy everything with money
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 05, 2010, 10:03:40 PM
It be a c u n t if they went and lost the qualifier now :D
Dont be letting the CL be bothering you next year, you'll be able to concentrate of knocking Fulham out of the Europa. At least Torres won't be going to Citeh now! 30 years of following spurs does give me the entitlement to be smug tonight. Redknapp played a blinder tonight, King was also unreal. COYS!!! ;D
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on May 05, 2010, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 05, 2010, 10:03:40 PM
It be a c u n t if they went and lost the qualifier now :D
Dont be letting the CL be bothering you next year, you'll be able to concentrate of knocking FAulham out of the Europa. At least Torres won't be going to Citeh now! 30 years of following spurs does give me the entitlement to be smug tonight. Redknapp played a blinder tonight, King was also unreal. COYS!!! ;D
But it WOULD be a c u n t if they didn't qualify!
Joking aside there are some good teams in the qualifying stages.
Oh I hear Russell is back on the tools?
This is typical Spurs. They'll get close to 3rd, c**k it up with a last minute goal on Sunday, then c**k up the CL qualifier against Mallorca, exit the Europa early and finish mid-table. Redknapp will financially ruin the club as he has every other, be jailed for a year, and normality will be resumed.
You gotta love their cotton socks.
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on May 05, 2010, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 05, 2010, 10:03:40 PM
It be a c u n t if they went and lost the qualifier now :D
Dont be letting the CL be bothering you next year, you'll be able to concentrate of knocking Fulham out of the Europa. At least Torres won't be going to Citeh now! 30 years of following spurs does give me the entitlement to be smug tonight. Redknapp played a blinder tonight, King was also unreal. COYS!!! ;D
Fair play to you An Gailgeor, I know too well what it is like following a team that breaks your heart year after year, enjoy the moment and get ready to do some serious damage next season, the Spurs will be a breath of fresh air in the CL next year and they will be around at the business end of things I would imagine.
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2010, 10:25:58 PM
This is typical Spurs. They'll get close to 3rd, c**k it up with a last minute goal on Sunday, then c**k up the CL qualifier against Mallorca, exit the Europa early and finish mid-table. Redknapp will financially ruin the club as he has every other, be jailed for a year, and normality will be resumed.
You gotta love their cotton socks.
A bitter Gooner, always nice to hear from ye! Maybe the professor could take a lesson from city tonight in the art of losing with dignity. Roll on Sunday ( eidted becuase i'm a bangwagoner not a bandwagoner, sorry forum)!
QuoteRoll on Saturday!
Typical Bangwagoner doesn't even know when the games are..
Anyway Spurs have done well and I'm sure it's nice for Fearon, Wobbler, Owenmoresider et al who would have put with some abuse over the last few years, enjoy the UCL boys.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2010, 10:50:48 PM
QuoteRoll on Saturday!
Typical Bangwagoner doesn't even know when the games are..
Anyway Spurs have done well and I'm sure it's nice for Fearon, Wobbler, Owenmoresider et al who would have put with some abuse over the last few years, enjoy the UCL boys.
Oh no, you've sussed me out, ::)
Delighted for Spurs and think they deserved it. Produced the goods in the big games more often than not in marked contrast to their opponents. Compare citehs pitiful reaction to the concession of a goal with ten minutes to go to how a team like United would reply. They can go aon about Fergie time all they like - if they'd an extra half hour tonight they wouldn't have scored. If Hughes was still manager at least they'd have a bit of guts about them. Got what they deserved for their treatment of him alone.
Anyway, back to Spurs. Look at what Redknapp has done in about 18 months. Its simply incredible. He needs to be cute in the summer but has a decent squad to build on.
What odds Celtic v. Spurs in qualifiers with Keane (who will undoubtedly be offloaded) ineligible due to a clause in his contract?
Well done Spurs. Glad they got that fourth spot as they are a lot more positive (Except at Old Trafford!!) than the other teams that chased fourth. City's negativity astounds me somethimes.
Don't f**k it up in Belarus now lads!!!
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 05, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Delighted for Spurs and think they deserved it. Produced the goods in the big games more often than not in marked contrast to their opponents. Compare citehs pitiful reaction to the concession of a goal with ten minutes to go to how a team like United would reply. They can go aon about Fergie time all they like - if they'd an extra half hour tonight they wouldn't have scored. If Hughes was still manager at least they'd have a bit of guts about them. Got what they deserved for their treatment of him alone.
Anyway, back to Spurs. Look at what Redknapp has done in about 18 months. Its simply incredible. He needs to be cute in the summer but has a decent squad to build on.
What odds Celtic v. Spurs in qualifiers with Keane (who will undoubtedly be offloaded) ineligible due to a clause in his contract?
Brilliant point about the way Hughes was treated Seanie, it's karma.
Spurs will make the group stages in a canter i would imagine, they wil do well in the group, they are an exciting team to watch and they are only going to get better.
City have a pouting superstar in Tevez, he is a cancer at the minute, they just off loaded another prima donna that thought he could swan off to south America whenever he wanted and I have to ask, how the feck can a team with this much cash only have one premiership standard keeper on their books? shame on the management team for that as well.
When the rubber hit the road, this cast of millionaires could not get it done and they lost games they absolutely had to have, United twice and the spuds.
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2010, 10:25:58 PM
This is typical Spurs. They'll get close to 3rd, c**k it up with a last minute goal on Sunday, then c**k up the CL qualifier against Mallorca, exit the Europa early and finish mid-table. Redknapp will financially ruin the club as he has every other, be jailed for a year, and normality will be resumed.
You gotta love their cotton socks.
You are as bitter as that tulip that manages the arse, he is a begrudging fecker as well. Is it so hard to just say well done Spurs, Shane?
I hope ye lose and they win at the weekend, Arse might hold his breath and pout for a month if that happens.
Yeah, would be funny if Sunday was St Arseholehnil Day!
Very good win tonight against Man City.
I enjoyed that second half performance. Spurs now closing in on third place, if not this season, then next.
The world reacts to city not qualifying for the champions league
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(http://celtic.theoffside.com/files/2010/02/Mark-Hughes.jpg)
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Well done to Spurs. They deserve 4th place.
I thought it was very funny the way Craig Bellamy ran over to Harry at the end to embrace him!! "sign me up Harry, sign me up!"
CL qualifier very early next season will be massive.
Quote from: stew on May 05, 2010, 11:45:14 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 05, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Delighted for Spurs and think they deserved it. Produced the goods in the big games more often than not in marked contrast to their opponents. Compare citehs pitiful reaction to the concession of a goal with ten minutes to go to how a team like United would reply. They can go aon about Fergie time all they like - if they'd an extra half hour tonight they wouldn't have scored. If Hughes was still manager at least they'd have a bit of guts about them. Got what they deserved for their treatment of him alone.
Anyway, back to Spurs. Look at what Redknapp has done in about 18 months. Its simply incredible. He needs to be cute in the summer but has a decent squad to build on.
What odds Celtic v. Spurs in qualifiers with Keane (who will undoubtedly be offloaded) ineligible due to a clause in his contract?
Brilliant point about the way Hughes was treated Seanie, it's karma.
Spurs will make the group stages in a canter i would imagine, they wil do well in the group, they are an exciting team to watch and they are only going to get better.
City have a pouting superstar in Tevez, he is a cancer at the minute, they just off loaded another prima donna that thought he could swan off to south America whenever he wanted and I have to ask, how the feck can a team with this much cash only have one premiership standard keeper on their books? shame on the management team for that as well.
When the rubber hit the road, this cast of millionaires could not get it done and they lost games they absolutely had to have, United twice and the spuds.
Eh? Tevez's baby was seriously ill, so was he not right to go back?
They had Given, and Stuart Taylor injured, and Joe Hart on loan, so they had 3 premiership keepers on their books, not one. Still. Should not have been allowed to sign Fulop though.
Man City's problem was too many draws earlier on. They drew 12 matches and lost only 7 or so, same as Chelsea I think.
For Spurs the CL draw is everything. FC Zürich got a handy draw last year and made it to the group stage whereas Celtic didn't.
Quote from: seafoid on May 06, 2010, 09:03:34 AM
Man City's problem was too many draws earlier on. They drew 12 matches and lost only 7 or so, same as Chelsea I think.
For Spurs the CL draw is everything. FC Zürich got a handy draw last year and made it to the group stage whereas Celtic didn't.
FC Zürich were in the Champions section of qualifying, while Celtic were in the Non-Champions section.
Spurs will be in the Non-Champions section, so won't get anyone as handy as the Slovenian or Latvian champions. The handiest it'll get for them is Romanian or Swiss runners up, but they could end up with Sevilla, Lyon, Porto, Ajax, Werder Bremen, Galatasaray, Dynamo Kyiv, Zenit St. Petersburg...
"City have a pouting superstar in Tevez, he is a cancer at the minute"
what an absolute pile of turd
well done to the Spurs
Is this the first time 3 teams from the one city have qualified (If Spurs don't f**k it up) for the Champions league. Nightmare for the UEFA suits.
Did you see the list of teams Spurs can possibly meet? No easy teams (as it stands now) Sky listed them last night, some big hitters in there.
Well done to Spurs delighted that Gareth Barry has to make do with the Europa League.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2010, 10:50:48 PM
QuoteRoll on Saturday!
Typical Bangwagoner doesn't even know when the games are..
Anyway Spurs have done well and I'm sure it's nice for Fearon, Wobbler, Owenmoresider et al who would have put with some abuse over the last few years, enjoy the UCL boys.
i thought tony was the only spurs man on the board ;) as i never saw this thread ??? however there seems to be a few of us on the board ,been a life long fan myself and delighted that we will finished in the top 4 . What a difference a few weeks make i was sickened after we lost to portsmouth in the fa cup however to have beaten Arsenal , Chelsea and Man city in the final few games shows how well they done. Would be great to get to the league stages . Fair play to harry we were near the bottom when he took over and to quailify for the champions league is a fair achievement
Quote from: small white mayoman on May 06, 2010, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2010, 10:50:48 PM
QuoteRoll on Saturday!
Typical Bangwagoner doesn't even know when the games are..
Anyway Spurs have done well and I'm sure it's nice for Fearon, Wobbler, Owenmoresider et al who would have put with some abuse over the last few years, enjoy the UCL boys.
i thought tony was the only spurs man on the board ;) as i never saw this thread ??? however there seems to be a few of us on the board ,been a life long fan myself and delighted that we will finished in the top 4 . What a difference a few weeks make i was sickened after we lost to portsmouth in the fa cup however to have beaten Arsenal , Chelsea and Man city in the final few games shows how well they done. Would be great to get to the league stages . Fair play to harry we were near the bottom when he took over and to quailify for the champions league is a fair achievement
You do realise you haven't qualified for the CL yet?
We are going to be seeded more than likely which makes it a bit easier but it still will be a tough ask but that's something to think about another day. Great performance last night and fully deserved, a team on the way up and hopefully within a few years we'll be looking down on the scum.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 06, 2010, 02:59:32 PM
We are going to be seeded more than likely which makes it a bit easier but it still will be a tough ask but that's something to think about another day. Great performance last night and fully deserved, a team on the way up and hopefully within a few years we'll be looking down on the scum.
No seeds this year, open draw.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 06, 2010, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 06, 2010, 02:59:32 PM
We are going to be seeded more than likely which makes it a bit easier but it still will be a tough ask but that's something to think about another day. Great performance last night and fully deserved, a team on the way up and hopefully within a few years we'll be looking down on the scum.
No seeds this year, open draw.
I think you'll find it is seeded..
Quoterom the UEFA regulations for season 2010-2011.
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Downlo...49_DOWNLOAD.pdf
Article 9
Seeding of clubs
9.01 The UEFA administration seeds clubs for the qualifying phase, the play-offs
and the group stage in the UEFA Champions League, in accordance with the
club coefficient rankings established at the beginning of the season and with
the principles set by the Club Competitions Committee. If, for any unforeseen
reason, any of the participants in such rounds are not known at the time of
the draw, the coefficient of the club with the higher coefficient of the two
clubs involved in an undecided tie will be used for the purposes of the draw.
9.02 For seeding purposes, rankings are drawn up on the basis of a combination
of 20% of the value of the respective national association's coefficient for the
period from 2005/06 to 2009/10 inclusive and the clubs' individual
performances in the UEFA club competitions during the same period. Each
club retains the cumulative number of points obtained during this period.
9.03 For the qualifying phase and the play-offs, a draw between the same number
of seeded and unseeded clubs determines the pairings, in accordance with
the club coefficient ranking established at the beginning of the season (see
9.02). The UEFA administration may form groups, in accordance with the
principles set by the Club Competitions Committee.
9.04 For the purpose of the draw, the 32 clubs involved in the group stage are
seeded into four groups of eight, in accordance with the club coefficient
ranking established at the beginning of the season (see 9.02). The titleholder
is always the top seed.
9.05 For the round of 16, the group-winners are seeded above the runners-up.
Not what was talked about on telly last night.
Is that not the actual group stages you refer to though? I think Spurs have to negotiate a qualifying round (assuming Arsenal finish 3rd) and this round is effectively an open draw?
Well done to Spurs on reaching the CL.
Not sure why it is assumed that Gunners fans would be unhappy, we are there also as usual.
As for 3rd, Fulham have the Europa Cup Final the weds after. Expect a weak team out.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 06, 2010, 02:59:32 PM
We are going to be seeded more than likely which makes it a bit easier but it still will be a tough ask but that's something to think about another day. Great performance last night and fully deserved, a team on the way up and hopefully within a few years we'll be looking down on the scum.
But sure Liverpool are 7th!
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 06, 2010, 04:12:03 PM
Not what was talked about on telly last night.
Is that not the actual group stages you refer to though? I think Spurs have to negotiate a qualifying round (assuming Arsenal finish 3rd) and this round is effectively an open draw?
I think he's right. UEFA seed the five teams from England, France, Italy, Spain and Germany for the final qualifying round. They'll face one of these ten teams, who have to play an extra qualifying round:
* Russia -
Zenit St. Petersburg (3rd)
* Ukraine -
Dynamo Kyiv (2nd)
* Netherlands -
Ajax (2nd)
* Romania Runners-up of the 2009–10 - (Any one of 5 or 6 teams)
* Portugal Runners-up of the 2009–10 Portuguese Liga - (Probably
Braga)
* Turkey Runners-up of the 2009–10 Turkish Super - (
Bursaspor/ Fenerbahce)
* Greece Playoff Group winners of the 2009–10 Super League - (
Aris Salonika/ AEK Athens/ Olympiakos/ PAOK Salonika)
* Scotland -
Celtic (2nd)
* Belgium Runners-up of the 2009–10 Belgian First Division - (
Club Bruges)
* Switzerland Runners-up of the 2009–10 Swiss Super League - (
Young Boys/ Basle)
It's definitely seeding taken into account the Club Coefficiency rate - Spurs is 56.371 (ranked 30th out of all teams)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/d.../trank2010.html
The only way we won't be seeded is if the following scenario takes place..
Bremen finishing 3rd, Lyon finishing 3rd, Sevilla finishing 4th and least likely, Milan to drop from 3rd to 4th. Now I can easily see 1-2 of those happening, mainly Sevilla and Bremen (think Lyon will finish 2nd), but all of the 4 to happen - it would take a miracle.
We are straight into the 4th qualifying round as well..
10 teams in 3rd Q round for 'best placed teams', draw is 16 July
Zenit St P
D Kiev
Ajax
romanian runners up (still up for grabs tmtm)
Sporting Braga
Bursaspor or Galatasaray
Olympiakos or PAOK
Celtic
Brugge
Basel
5 winners progress to 4th Q round for 'best placed teams' which we're in:
Tottenham Hotspur or Arsenal
Sevilla or Mallorca
Sampdoria or Palermo
Werder Bremen or Bayer Leverkusen
Lille, Auxerre, Lyon or Montpellier
Quote from: EC Unique on May 06, 2010, 05:14:02 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 06, 2010, 02:59:32 PM
We are going to be seeded more than likely which makes it a bit easier but it still will be a tough ask but that's something to think about another day. Great performance last night and fully deserved, a team on the way up and hopefully within a few years we'll be looking down on the scum.
But sure Liverpool are 7th!
Your scum and mine entirely different :)
Bentley proves his claim to be the missing link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiMdKeqQF68 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiMdKeqQF68)
I wonder how quickly Harry will sell him now?
Harry took it in good heart but Bentley is probably gone regardless, just doesn't suit the spurs style of football and always thought it was a tad overrated because he's English. Better off in being the bigger fish in the smaller pond to suit his ego.
A the Arsenal reject David 'I'm the new Becks' Bentley, he left Arsenal for a smaller club in Blackburn and left them for an even smaller club in Spurs, probably end up at Liverpool next.
Great insight and contribution Dinny, suppose you lot can't forgive him after his 40 odd yard volley last year.
Spurs the only club that bring out a DVD to celebrate drawing a match ::)
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2010, 06:39:58 PM
Spurs the only club that bring out a DVD to celebrate drawing a match ::)
They aren't, but certainly you won't hear me saying it wasn't cringeworthy.
How many managers have spurs gone through in Wengers time at Arsenal?
Nothing like the sound of Irish folk wind each other up, on account of their slightly varied affiliations to foreign league clubs.
Quote from: Main Street on May 06, 2010, 08:51:53 PM
Nothing like the sound of Irish folk wind each other up, on account of their slightly varied affiliations to foreign league clubs.
As opposed to an affiliation to a foreign Scottish club !
Try spurs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_snUEZtDFY&feature=player_embedded :D
Quote from: Minder on May 06, 2010, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 06, 2010, 08:51:53 PM
Nothing like the sound of Irish folk wind each other up, on account of their slightly varied affiliations to foreign league clubs.
As opposed to an affiliation to a foreign Scottish club !
I don't know what my football interests and discussions here about football related issues have to do with board members doing different versions of mooning at each other, based on some claimed affiliation to an EPL (top 4) team. A mooning which carries over to thread after thread.
I have never claimed affiliation to Celtic, have nothing more than a longstanding interest in the club. Not a club member. Never been to Celtic Park. Would love to go sometime, as a guest.
Joe Cole will be joining Spurs this summer.
Arda Turan apparently joining Spurs with Dos Santos going the other way + 5 Million Euro, would be an excellent deal.
Great second half from Spurs tonight although it was a worse first half than the Young Boys game.
However, confident enough that with Van Der Vaart and hopefully King back for the White Harte Lane game we can get a positive result second time round against Inter. Perhaps go for a 4-4-2 with Crouch and Pavlyeuchenko up front.
Great result in the Bremen / Twente game as well.
The whole night could have been a lot worse!!!!!
As for Gareth Bale...... :-*
They had a debate on Skysports tonight, whos more exciting to watch Spurs or arse? all went for Spurs.
Well impressed with spurs... First season in the Champions league & they managed to top the group (a group with the Dutch,Italian & European Champions)
Alot can happen between now & feb but on this form they won't fear anyone in the 2nd round.
Spurs are far, far more exciting to watch. They let in 3-4 goals a game in Europe away from home. Much, much more entertaining viewing.
Just reading on another site, so correct me if I'm wrong, but over the last 5 seasons Spurs have a negative transfer balance of £168 million! By my maths that's double what Chelsea have spent!
2010-2011- 21.6 million
2009-2010- 9.2 million
2008-2009- 53.2 million
2007-2008- 64.0 miliion
2006-2007- 19.6 million
That's hardly the wheeler, dealer notion that the papers would make you think re Harry is it?
Are these figures accurate???
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 26, 2011, 03:17:20 AM
Just reading on another site, so correct me if I'm wrong, but over the last 5 seasons Spurs have a negative transfer balance of £168 million! By my maths that's double what Chelsea have spent!
2010-2011- 21.6 million
2009-2010- 9.2 million
2008-2009- 53.2 million
2007-2008- 64.0 miliion
2006-2007- 19.6 million
That's hardly the wheeler, dealer notion that the papers would make you think re Harry is it?
Are these figures accurate???
Harry has only been there for the past 2 seasons
http://www.myfootballfacts.com/TottenhamHotspurPlayerTransferHistory1908-2009.html
There net spend for the past 5 seasons
2010-11 £11,000,000
2009-10 £8,130,000
2008-09 -£2,350,000
2007-08 £42,705,000
2006-07 £12,976,000
Incoming
2010-11
Steven Pienaar Jan-11 £2,500,000
Bongani Khumalo Jan-11 £1,500,000
Rafael Van der Vaart Aug-10 £8,000,000
£12,000,000
2009-10
Sandro Mar-10 £6,000,000
Younes Kaboul Jan-10 £4,000,000
Dean Parrett Nov-09 £2,000,000
Niko Kranjcar Sep-09 £2,000,000
Sebastien Bassong Aug-09 £8,000,000
Peter Crouch Jly-09 £9,000,000
Kyle Naughton Jly-09 £6,000,000
Kyle Walker Jly-09 £4,000,000
£41,000,000
2008-09
Robbie Keane Jan-09 £12,000,000
Pascal Chimbonda Jan-09 £3,000,000
Wilson Palacios Jan-09 £12,000,000
Jermain Defoe Jan-09 £15,000,000
Vedran Corluka Sep-08 £8,500,000
Roman Pavlyuchenko Aug-08 £13,800,000
David Bentley Jly-08 £17,000,000
Heurelho Gomes Jun-08 £7,000,000
Giovani Dos Santos Jun-08 £8,800,000
John Bostock May-08 £2,150,000
Luka Modric Apr-08 £16,505,000
£81,300,000
2007-08
Gilberto de Silva Melo Jan-08 £1,800,000
Alan Hutton Jan-08 £9,000,000
Jonathan Woodgate Jan-08 £7,000,000
Chris Gunter Jan-08 £2,000,000
Kevin-Prince Boateng Jly-07 £4,500,000
Danny Rose Jly-07 £1,000,000
Younes Kaboul Jly-07 £8,200,000
£67,955,000
2006-07
Darren Bent Jun-07 £16,500,000
Gareth Bale May-07 £7,500,000
Ricardo Rocha Jan-07 £3,276,000
Ben Alnwick Jan-07 £1,300,000
Pascal Chimbonda Aug-06 £4,000,000
Steed Malbranque Aug-06 £3,500,000
Mido Aug-06 £4,500,000
Tomas Pekhart Jul-06 £250,000
£40,826,000
Outgoing
Outgoing Player Date Amount
2010-11
Adel Taarabt Aug-10 £1,000,000
£1,000,000
2009-10
Pascal Chimbonda Aug-09 £2,000,000
Kevin-Prince Boateng Aug-09 £4,000,000
Darren Bent Aug-09 £16,500,000
Chris Gunter Jul-09 £1,750,000
Didier Zokora Jul-09 £8,620,000
£32,870,000
2008-09
Hossam Ghaly Jan-09 £1,400,000
Dimitar Berbatov Sep-08 £30,750,000
Young-Pyo Lee Aug-08 £2,000,000
Anthony Gardner Aug-08 £2,500,000
Younes Kaboul Aug-08 £6,000,000
Tommy Forecast Jul-08 £200,000
Paul Robinson Jul-08 £3,500,000
Teemu Tainio Jul-08 £5,000,000
Pascal Chimbonda Jul-08 £6,000,000
Steed Malbranque Jul-08 £6,000,000
Robbie Keane Jul-08 £20,300,000
£83,650,000
2007-08
Lee Barnard Jan-08 £100,000
Phil Ifil Jan-08 £100,000
Wayne Routledge Jan-08 £1,250,000
Jermain Defoe Jan-08 £12,000,000
Danny Murphy Aug-07 £1,000,000
Rodrigo Defendi Aug-07 £1,000,000
Mido Aug-07 £6,800,000
Charlie Lee Jul-07 £250,000
Mark Yeates Jul-07 £500,000
Emil Hallfredsson Jul-07 £750,000
Reto Ziegler Jul-07 £1,500,000
£25,250,000
2006-07
Marton Fulop Jan-07 £500,000
Calum Davenport Jan-07 £3,000,000
Andy Reid Aug-06 £3,000,000
Michael Carrick Aug-06 £18,600,000
Mounir El Hamdaoui Jul-06 £1,250,000
Dean Marney Jul-06 £1,500,000
£27,850,000
Heading to my first Spurs match next weekend - Staying friday night - Home saturday night. Anyone any ideas of where to go for pints/night out or where to eat??
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on January 26, 2011, 12:07:10 PM
Heading to my first Spurs match next weekend - Staying friday night - Home saturday night. Anyone any ideas of where to go for pints/night out or where to eat??
The corner pin before and after is always good. Get in early and have 2 ints before hand, always good craic in there. As for eating, no shortage of kebab and curry houses up the high road. Try Rudolph's as well. ;)
I wonder will Spurs try to sneak someone through at 12.10am in this transfer window.
News Just in... Chaz and Dave admit lyrics error.
A spokesman for the cockney duo admitted that after all these years they actually misread the lyrics for Spurs' classic cup final ditty.
The song will now be digitally remastered and rereleased with the correct lyrics included, "It's lucky for Spurs when the year starts with one"!
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 02:01:46 PM
I wonder will Spurs try to sneak someone through at 12.10am in this transfer window.
Nearly!
Team's are in should be a good game
AC Milan: Abbiati, Abate, Nesta, Yepes, Antonini, Gattuso, Thiago Silva, Flamini, Seedorf, Robinho, Ibrahimovic. Subs: Amelia, Alexandre Pato, Papastathopoulos, Oddo, Jankulovski, Merkel, Legrottaglie.
Tottenham: Gomes, Corluka, Gallas, Dawson, Assou-Ekotto, Lennon, Palacios, Sandro, Pienaar, Van der Vaart, Crouch. Subs: Cudicini, Pavlyuchenko, Modric, Defoe, Bassong, Kranjcar, Woodgate.
Half-Time analysis......Spurs all over them. just missing a Modric through-ball or a Bale hit and run.
No doubt AC Milan will bag 3 now I've opened my mouth. :-\
COME ON YOU SPOOOOORS
Good game here for a 0-0. Can't see it finishing with 22 men on the pitch.
That was a wild challenge by Flamini, should have seen red.
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 15, 2011, 09:11:44 PM
Good game here for a 0-0. Can't see it finishing with 22 men on the pitch.
That was a wild challenge by Flamini, should have seen red.
Wild challenge surely and definitely a red in my opinion. Didn't think he caught Corluka though even though he was stretchered away??? Replays will no doubt show I'm talking out of my arse, again.
Gattuso's a maniac. Him and Flamini should both be off.
Think he did catch him good. Chorluka just shown coming back out onto pitch on crutches there.
Gatusu is one hateful aul hoor. Throttled Joe Jordan on the sideline then threw a major hissy fit when booked for a challenge from behind.
What a move and run by Lennon! 1-0 spurs deserve it!
Great goal and fully deserved
0-1 well deserved lead & that's Gattuso out of the return leg, what was he thinking by pushing Joe Jordan?
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gattuso headbutt on jordan :o
Great win for Spurs and totally deserved. :)
Thon Gattuso's a hateful wee f**ker.
Milan are awful.
He's lost the plot. Great example set by the captain...the tr**p!
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 15, 2011, 09:44:12 PM
Great win for Spurs and totally deserved. :)
Thon Gattuso's a hateful wee f**ker.
He is a Dog according to Souness!
Spurs completely deserved that. Very good show by them. Delighted for Crouch as well.
What the hell was Gattuso at? The commentator mentioned that he was going psycho before the game. He's lucky that he was surrounded by people 'holding him back' because Joe Jordan was a proper tough man.
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 15, 2011, 09:46:33 PM
Spurs completely deserved that. Very good show by them. Delighted for Crouch as well.
What the hell was Gattuso at? The commentator mentioned that he was going psycho before the game. He's lucky that he was surrounded by people 'holding him back' because Joe Jordan was a proper tough man.
Gattuso headbutted Joe Jordan after the final whistle. He had "pushed his hand in his face" during the game. Ban pending for the wee twat.
A truly awful, sycophantic, epl obsessed commentary on that game by TV3.
What right had big mouth Joe Jordan got to be at the touchline shouting abuse at the Italian players?
Quote from: Main Street on February 15, 2011, 09:51:46 PM
A truly awful, sycophantic, epl obsessed commentary on that game by TV3.
What right had big mouth Joe Jordan got to be at the touchline shouting abuse at the Italian players?
:D There's always one!!!
Gattuso's headbutt was hilarious! When did we last see anything like that in a soccer match? I know it is objectionable but I found it awful funny - especially to do it on a hard man like Joe Jordan! Long ban coming. Jordan might get sanctioned too though for his part in it. Shouldn't have been out on the pitch.
Great result for Spurs but Milan are no great shakes. They might have a decent chance in the competition.
Quote from: Main Street on February 15, 2011, 09:51:46 PM
What right had big mouth Joe Jordan got to be at the touchline shouting abuse at the Italian players?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHh3ykPQEl4
was a great result for furs indeed. Has anyone heard from feron lately? thought this might have brought him back, early days mind you
Got to love the way everyones taking big Joes side here, if Spurs were playing your teams' he'd be getting called all sorts. It had feck all to do with him he shouldn't be standing at pitchside bawling out players either, maybe he deserved a dig....
Well done Spurs by the way, thoroughly deserved.
Note how depsite the slap on the face and the head butt Jordan remains on his feet.
Modern day footballers take note.
Gattuso will right be banned and was acting the maggot all night. Few things though.
Why were Joe Jordan and Redknapp halfway down the sideline for the first incident? (BBC reporting it as "near the Tottenham dugout)
Secondly - Gattuso shook Redknapp's hand and then according to Sky "went straight for Joe Jordan." Who happened to be standing in the way of the entrance to the tunnel.
Souness saying he's shite - he's over the hill, but you don't win a World Cup and two Champions Leagues by being shite.
Good performance and without Bale. The year ends a 1 so it could be their year.
Maybe Jordan was saying that Gattuso wasn't fit to play for AC unlike him
16/1 to win it out.... Worth a punt on Betfair possibly... Who they get next if they go through?
Joe Jordan would destroy the little shite.
Sure Gattuso spent the whole night arguing with Crouch's belly button.
Jordan should have got sent to the doghouse for that provocative behaviour during the game The 4th official was less than useless out there.
Though the TV3 commentary team were in great mirth applauding Jordon's antics. I thought they were going to burst into a chorus of Rule Britannia.
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FREAK
Gattuso is a horrible dirty wee sh*te who thrives on running round like a madman and trying to bully / intimidate the opposition. Don't get me wrong - he's very effective but a horrible runt of a man whose reaction to the booking illustrated what kind he was.
Good performance by spurs though I didn't see the whole game. Why was Pienaar starting and not Krancjkaer? (for want of a better spelling). Modric is a cracker too so not sure why he didn't start.
Gattuso is also the man who couldn't make it at Rangers so he can't be that good...
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2011, 10:31:44 PM
Gattuso is a horrible dirty wee sh*te who thrives on running round like a madman and trying to bully / intimidate the opposition. Don't get me wrong - he's very effective but a horrible runt of a man whose reaction to the booking illustrated what kind he was.
Good performance by spurs though I didn't see the whole game. Why was Pienaar starting and not Krancjkaer? (for want of a better spelling). Modric is a cracker too so not sure why he didn't start.
Gattuso is also the man who couldn't make it at Rangers so he can't be that good...
Modric is only back from an appendectomy.
Quote from: gallsman on February 15, 2011, 10:36:52 PM
Modric is only back from an appendectomy.
Cracking wee player. I think he'd do a lot better in Spain / Italy than in England too.
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 15, 2011, 10:12:32 PM
16/1 to win it out.... Worth a punt on Betfair possibly... Who they get next if they go through?
Open draw so could get anyone.
Impressed by Spurs, tonight. Passed it well and looked comfortable for the most part. Lennon did brilliantly for the goal.
If they can qualify for CL again and bring in a Centre Back, Left Back and Striker in the summer they could push for Premiership next year.
Modric is a fabulous wee player ( although could score a few more goals). I see United being linked with Bale but Modric is the player they should be after.
Milan were shocking though. If this is the best team in Italy.......
Remember the great days of the 90s in Serie A on C4 of a Sunday. Signori, Crespo, that brilliant Juve team.
Orangemac - I haven't seen a whole lot of Spurs this year but anytime I have Assou Ekotto has impressed me, very tidy on the ball. Not sure a left back is there biggest worry. Gomes has turned into an excellent keeper too, I remember he was a laughing stock after his first few games.
Maldini, Baresi, Costacurta, Tassotti
Now that was a defense.
All changed now.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2011, 10:58:44 PM
Maldini, Baresi, Costacurta, Tassotti
Now that was a defense.
All changed now.
Calciopoli hurt the big clubs (Inter apart) in Italy more than many people realise. The big money is by and large gone from Serie A. Relatively of course.
8)
Anyone with a link to the Joe Jordan incident? Missed it last night.
To address an earlier comment, Pienaar started ahead of Krancjar because Harry felt Krancjar has played too many games in a short space of time (including an international). Considering the fact that he hasn't been playing regular all season he may have been a bit tired.
Im just happy that we have cover all over the pitch. When you look at Spurs' injury list going into last night it was a great result against the current Serie A leaders.....
I didn't know a club could have some (toothless) moron right on the sidelines, throwing abuse into the ears of opposition players.
Gattuso will be missed by Milan.
But I'd still think they're well capable of scoring 2 and shut up shop in the return leg.
Quote from: Main Street on February 16, 2011, 10:36:12 AM
I didn't know a club could have some (toothless) moron right on the sidelines, throwing abuse into the ears of opposition players.
Gattuso will be missed by Milan.
But I'd still think they're well capable of scoring 2 and shut up shop in the return leg.
What could possibly have been said (considering the language barrier) to make gattuso react like that? Is it not a case the man's a weasel picking on pensioners!
Well done Spurs...... great win last night. Modric for the 30 mins or so he was on the pitch was class. Away goal is priceless.
As for Joe Jordan, the man imo is a legend. No histrionics etc a throw back to a different time in football and a welcome one at that. Mark my words he will get the book thrown at him by UEFA for leaving the technical area or something like that.
Thought the lads on Tv3 did a great job on the commentary ............... very entertaining although no doubt the Socceristas will no doubt sneer and sniff away.
Joe Jordan would no doubt still have some Italian from his AC Milan (believe it or not) days.
Quote from: Canalman on February 16, 2011, 11:08:45 AM
Well done Spurs...... great win last night. Modric for the 30 mins or so he was on the pitch was class. Away goal is priceless.
As for Joe Jordan, the man imo is a legend. No histrionics etc a throw back to a different time in football and a welcome one at that. Mark my words he will get the book thrown at him by UEFA for leaving the technical area or something like that.
Thought the lads on Tv3 did a great job on the commentary ............... very entertaining although no doubt the Socceristas will no doubt sneer and sniff away.
TV3's sanctimonious brit crap does seems to resonate so well with an Irish audience, judging by the reaction here. Nasty Eyeties, the effin cheatin' foreigners, great that 'our British boys' did so well in Europe.
Flamini's tackle was horrific, Palacios' challenge, a cm away from being a kneecap crusher, was greeted without a murmur from the intrepid commentators. Throughout the game they got most things wrong with both of them sacrificing commentary for jingoism.
QuoteFlamini's tackle was horrific, Palacios' challenge, a cm away from being a kneecap crusher, was greeted without a murmur from the intrepid commentators. Throughout the game they got most things wrong with both of them sacrificing commentary for jingoism.
That actually annoyed me as well, as Palacios' challenge was nasty and full of intent, glossed over completely with the he's a lucky boy tag. Joe Jordan also deserves a ban as there was no doubt he was a provacateur last night. Flamini's tackle was a red card no question.
Will Flamini receive a retrospective red card? I won't hold me breathe waiting...
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 16, 2011, 12:32:29 PM
Will Flamini receive a retrospective red card? I won't hold me breathe waiting...
Na they'd sooner try and retrosepctively ban Eduardo for diving than deal with weak refereeing...
Quote from: gallsman on February 15, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
Gattuso will right be banned and was acting the maggot all night. Few things though.
Why were Joe Jordan and Redknapp halfway down the sideline for the first incident? (BBC reporting it as "near the Tottenham dugout)
Secondly - Gattuso shook Redknapp's hand and then according to Sky "went straight for Joe Jordan." Who happened to be standing in the way of the entrance to the tunnel.
Souness saying he's shite - he's over the hill, but you don't win a World Cup and two Champions Leagues by being shite.
If he played against Souness he would have known all about it. I hate these fake hard men you get in soccer nowadays and Gattuso is a prime example.
Gattuso may have been decent at one stage but he's a joke now. Spurs would be better off if he was playing in the next leg, would keep a more skilful (dangerous) player off the pitch.
As for the refereeing - I don't think the stuff that was missed last night would be missed in the Premier League in England.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 12:36:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 16, 2011, 12:32:29 PM
Will Flamini receive a retrospective red card? I won't hold me breathe waiting...
Na they'd sooner try and retrosepctively ban Eduardo for diving than deal with weak refereeing...
Surely they can't? he was booked in the incident. Stupid as the rule is they should at least abide by their own rules.
Spurs apparently glad to see Jordan butted in revenge for - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7197798.stm
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 16, 2011, 12:32:29 PM
Will Flamini receive a retrospective red card? I won't hold me breathe waiting...
Cant be a red retrospecitively, as a yellow was issued. If he had reveived no card at all then the red could be issued after the fact.
the two incidents for anyone who didnt see them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8nV0kFVEY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8nV0kFVEY)
For those wondering about how they communicated, Gattuso stated in today's paper that Joe Jordan said something in Scottish to him which set the whole thing off. Anyone here speak Scottish?
Ah ken speek a wee bit ay Scottish seein as me ma's fay Govan.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 16, 2011, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 15, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
Gattuso will right be banned and was acting the maggot all night. Few things though.
Why were Joe Jordan and Redknapp halfway down the sideline for the first incident? (BBC reporting it as "near the Tottenham dugout)
Secondly - Gattuso shook Redknapp's hand and then according to Sky "went straight for Joe Jordan." Who happened to be standing in the way of the entrance to the tunnel.
Souness saying he's shite - he's over the hill, but you don't win a World Cup and two Champions Leagues by being shite.
If he played against Souness he would have known all about it. I hate these fake hard men you get in soccer nowadays and Gattuso is a prime example.
Gattuso may have been decent at one stage but he's a joke now. Spurs would be better off if he was playing in the next leg, would keep a more skilful (dangerous) player off the pitch.
As for the refereeing - I don't think the stuff that was missed last night would be missed in the Premier League in England.
Like many Milan players the last few years, he's over the hill. He was excellent at his job in his day. He wasn't there to produce tricks and flicks.
Anyone find the sight of Jamie Rednknapp interviewing his da a bit odd? What if there was some sort of controversy surrounding a Tottenham player? You'd hardly expect a grilling, would you?
Quote from: gallsman on February 16, 2011, 06:47:36 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 16, 2011, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 15, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
Gattuso will right be banned and was acting the maggot all night. Few things though.
Why were Joe Jordan and Redknapp halfway down the sideline for the first incident? (BBC reporting it as "near the Tottenham dugout)
Secondly - Gattuso shook Redknapp's hand and then according to Sky "went straight for Joe Jordan." Who happened to be standing in the way of the entrance to the tunnel.
Souness saying he's shite - he's over the hill, but you don't win a World Cup and two Champions Leagues by being shite.
If he played against Souness he would have known all about it. I hate these fake hard men you get in soccer nowadays and Gattuso is a prime example.
Gattuso may have been decent at one stage but he's a joke now. Spurs would be better off if he was playing in the next leg, would keep a more skilful (dangerous) player off the pitch.
As for the refereeing - I don't think the stuff that was missed last night would be missed in the Premier League in England.
Like many Milan players the last few years, he's over the hill. He was excellent at his job in his day. He wasn't there to produce tricks and flicks.
Anyone find the sight of Jamie Rednknapp interviewing his da a bit odd? What if there was some sort of controversy surrounding a Tottenham player? You'd hardly expect a grilling, would you?
Or Graeme Souness telling 'Arry that the 2 of them would be going for a beer together.
Quote from: paco on February 16, 2011, 03:59:46 PM
For those wondering about how they communicated, Gattuso stated in today's paper that Joe Jordan said something in Scottish to him which set the whole thing off. Anyone here speak Scottish?
Johnny Giles said Gattuso's wife is Scottish so no need for translation. Any truth in this?
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 16, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: paco on February 16, 2011, 03:59:46 PM
For those wondering about how they communicated, Gattuso stated in today's paper that Joe Jordan said something in Scottish to him which set the whole thing off. Anyone here speak Scottish?
Johnny Giles said Gattuso's wife is Scottish so no need for translation. Any truth in this?
From wikipedia
Personal life
Gattuso is married to Monica Romano (a Scottish woman of Italian descent), whom he met while playing for Rangers at an exhibition game in Toronto, Canada. The couple dated for a long while before marrying. They have a daughter, Gabriella (born 20 June 2004), and a son, Francesco (born 8 November 2007). Monica is the sister of GMTV's Los Angeles correspondent Carla Romano.
In January 2010, Gattuso opened a fish shop in Gallarate, a city in the province of Varese where the midfielder had been living for eight years.[12]
Four game ban for Gattuso:
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/matchorganisation/disciplinary/news/newsid=1597812.html?rss=1597812+Milan's+Gattuso+suspended+for+four+matches&utm
Cannot for the life of me understand how Spurs are 3-0 down in this game. Ridiculous.
Ground out the result. Fairplay.
Bragging rights on Northside of London.
My nerves are shattered here!!!
Great result! Sandro was immense.
COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!
Good to see it. There will be a few envious faces in the other half of N London tonight !
Will that result mean a return to the board by Tony?
"Tonight's performance was from a team of men. Last night's performance from [Arsenal] was from a team of frightened children."
- Harry Redknapp
Well done the spuds!
Quote from: ross4life on March 09, 2011, 10:57:17 PM
"Tonight's performance was from a team of men. Last night's performance from [Arsenal] was from a team of frightened children."
- Harry Redknapp
HR never actually said that - apparently it was made up by some character calling himself "De Selby" on Red Cafe:
http://www.redcafe.net/f7/spurs-v-milan-323219/index13.html
Tbf to Harry, he doesn't tend to slag off other teams very much.
And tbf to De Selby, he's absolutely right! :D
I was thinking that quote couldn't be for real, Harry wouldn't be that stupid to leave himself open by saying that.
Trust Ross to dive in two footed and quote it ::)
Just back from London (Thank you god to be working for a multi-national organisation). What a night, even surpasses the 91 cup final. Sandro and Dawson were unreal. VDV and Bale clearly unfit. 9 days til the next game then the run in to try and get fourth again.COYS.
Milan were shocking though, they did not look like scoring all night, as bad a display as you will see from a team at this stage of the competition.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 10, 2011, 12:49:03 PM
Milan were shocking though, they did not look like scoring all night, as bad a display as you will see from a team at this stage of the competition.
Yes it's the worst Milan team I can remember.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 10, 2011, 12:49:03 PM
Milan were shocking though, they did not look like scoring all night, as bad a display as you will see from a team at this stage of the competition.
But if they played the first leg like that, I don't think Spurs would be as happy today.
Thought your man Sandro put in some shift.
Also was Van der Vaart pissed he was taken off or was he just dying for a spliff??
Milan need their striker. I thought they played rings around Spurs and dominated the game in the first half, should have had the tie wrapped up before half time.
Quote from: Main Street on March 10, 2011, 02:34:30 PM
Milan need their striker. I thought they played rings around Spurs and dominated the game in the first half, should have had the tie wrapped up before half time.
Yeah all those clear cut chances they missed cost them, they didn't score over 2 legs and deservedly are out of the CL.
I see on SSN around the bernabeu they have loads of posters advertising "order your tickets now for Barcelona v Real Madrid Semi final"
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 04:58:55 PM
I see on SSN around the bernabeu they have loads of posters advertising "order your tickets now for Barcelona v Real Madrid Semi final"
Hope they are made to eat their words.
Only downside is that we have to watch this on TV3 (in terrestrial land).
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 05, 2011, 05:55:24 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 04:58:55 PM
I see on SSN around the bernabeu they have loads of posters advertising "order your tickets now for Barcelona v Real Madrid Semi final"
Hope they are made to eat their words.
Why? I'd sure rather see a match between Barca v Real than Shakhtar Donetsk v Spurs in the semi final.
Unless of course you are a Spurs fan..are you?
Quote from: laoislad on April 05, 2011, 06:12:03 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 05, 2011, 05:55:24 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 04:58:55 PM
I see on SSN around the bernabeu they have loads of posters advertising "order your tickets now for Barcelona v Real Madrid Semi final"
Hope they are made to eat their words.
Why? I'd sure rather see a match between Barca v Real than Shakhtar Donetsk v Spurs in the semi final.
Unless of course you are a Spurs fan..are you?
I'd prefer to see Barca v Spurs. Barca and Real is on at least twice a year on Sky, I'd like to see Spurs give them a rattle.
Come on Spurs. Do it for N London.
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Quote from: ONeill on April 05, 2011, 06:41:05 PM
Come on Spurs. Do it for N London.
N'London? Is he African?
Quote from: ONeill on April 05, 2011, 06:48:57 PM
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Its all context isn't.
That sign just says that its a possible Barca/Real semi. Any spanish speakers out there who could translate?
That's it really. Reserve your trip. Think Rosslife was getting a bit excited.
Quote from: ONeill on April 05, 2011, 07:16:56 PM
That's it really. Reserve your trip. Think Rosslife was getting a bit excited.
Wouldn't be the first time.
It's usually you LL that gets him that excited ;)
Jamie Redknapp discussing similarities between his dad & Mourinho!!!!!
Some goal by Stankovic for inter in the other quarter final in less than 30 seconds.
Awful goal to let in, that's nine goals for Adebayor ten appearances in all competitions against Spurs.
1-1 in the other game.
Crouch is a gobshite
Harry will have to work his magic now.
spurs fans may enjoy this, god knows the next time they will be playing away in champions league.
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 08:04:01 PM
Harry will have to work his magic now.
Or Bung Jose a few bob at half time ;)
The other game is a cracker so far.2-2. Good finish by Edu for Schalke to equalise.
Spurs are still hanging on.
Ray Wilkins is an awful cnut, so hard to listen to. 'We' this 'we' that, must be angling for a job with 'arry.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2011, 08:08:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 08:04:01 PM
Harry will have to work his magic now.
Or Bung Jose a few bob at half time ;)
He's no facking wheeler dealer. He's a football manager. Fack off.
madrid to get a penalty in first 10 mins of 2nd half.
Any links for that Stankovic goal? Madrid have been awful since they scored.
Who got sent off for Spurs?
Had to turn the sound down on Ray Wilkins. Was like listening to fanzone.
Ray Wilkins is annoying, glad im not watching it now..what did crouch do???
Quote from: takeyourownpath on April 05, 2011, 08:57:50 PM
Ray Wilkins is annoying, glad im not watching it now..what did crouch do???
Two poor mistimed slide tackles. Ray is doing alot "we" stuff tonight.
Crouch lunged in twice. No real malice but had to go. Them boys wouldn't be long rolling round either.
Wilkins is like an underage coach here - has said "well done" more times than I've ever heard from any commentator.
Maybe someone was right about the coaching role...
Game over.
The p***k is on nick-name terms with all 22 players!!
Bugs me that Doogie.. Someone said that about mark sidebottom on gear grinding thread, mugsy, ricey etc..
Adebayor, wtf? When did he learn to run?
Quote from: takeyourownpath on April 05, 2011, 09:08:58 PM
Bugs me that Doogie.. Someone said that about mark sidebottom on gear grinding thread, mugsy, ricey etc..
That's
Sidey to you.
Szczescy on twitter...."I love the way Bale just run 20 yards after the referee has given a foul... Should have been sent off. Don't you think??"
Seem a bit of an A-hole that lad
The hair was holding him back for years, what a goal!
Quote from: new devil on April 05, 2011, 09:15:29 PM
Szczescy on twitter...."I love the way Bale just run 20 yards after the referee has given a foul... Should have been sent off. Don't you think??"
Seem a bit of an A-hole that lad
Who?
This could get embarrassing for Spurs. Real are like the Dubs. Let them get their tails up and they'll destroy you.
Sorry I mean Szczseny the Arsenal keeper
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 05, 2011, 09:18:47 PM
Quote from: new devil on April 05, 2011, 09:15:29 PM
Szczescy on twitter...."I love the way Bale just run 20 yards after the referee has given a foul... Should have been sent off. Don't you think??"
Seem a bit of an A-hole that lad
Who?
This could get embarrassing for Spurs. Real are like the Dubs. Let them get their tails gloves up and they'll destroy you.
In the other tie Schalke are doing the business! having some CL season... never write off the germans.
Decent subs Madrid brought on there.
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 09:22:12 PM
In the other tie Schalke are doing the business! having some CL season... never write off the germans.
Decent subs Madrid brought on there.
I thought Inter were nailed on to win it again this year Ross?
Quote from: Minder on April 05, 2011, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 09:22:12 PM
In the other tie Schalke are doing the business! having some CL season... never write off the germans.
Decent subs Madrid brought on there.
I thought Inter were nailed on to win it again this year Ross?
By whom?
Quote from: paco on April 05, 2011, 08:49:31 PM
Any links for that Stankovic goal? Madrid have been awful since they scored.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/golazo!-dejan-stankovic-schalke-8963239/ (http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/golazo!-dejan-stankovic-schalke-8963239/)
twitter: The official reason for Aaron Lennon's last-minute absence tonight? A sore throat, according to Uefa. Very strange
Not strange, check 'Arry's hands.
Anyone else think Bale is overrated and hyped up way too much?
80 million Sterling according to 'arry.
According to the bookies Bale is going to be PFA player of the year & TBH he looked half fit tonight.
Thats for the premier league Ross?
I think he's only completed 3 or 4 games in the PL this year. Be a disgrace if he got player of the year for the PL.
Yep PL where the players pick it in March i think?
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 05, 2011, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 09:22:12 PM
In the other tie Schalke are doing the business! having some CL season... never write off the germans.
Decent subs Madrid brought on there.
I thought Inter were nailed on to win it again this year Ross?
By whom?
If I could be bothered my arse looking, and I can't, there is a post by you saying on the Inter thread ( I think) that Inter had a great chance of winning the Champions League again this year only for big bad Rafa. ri
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
Yep PL where the players pick it in March i think?
Maybe even earlier. Didn't Ginola win it ahead of Keane in 1999?
Spurs should take the £80 million if anyone was prepared to pay it. Sell Defoe and Crouch as well and rebuild. Money seems to have dried up this year.
I wondered earlier this year why Utd or Arsenal had't snapped up Van Der Vaart as he looked class for a few months earlier this season but a bit like Arshavin very talented but bad attitude.
Quote from: Minder on April 05, 2011, 10:29:09 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 05, 2011, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 09:22:12 PM
In the other tie Schalke are doing the business! having some CL season... never write off the germans.
Decent subs Madrid brought on there.
I thought Inter were nailed on to win it again this year Ross?
By whom?
If I could be bothered my arse looking, and I can't, there is a post by you saying on the Inter thread ( I think) that Inter had a great chance of winning the Champions League again this year only for big bad Rafa. ri
probably did say that but Rafa destroyed Inter. this year i went for the safe bet & expect to be right again.
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 10:14:57 PM
According to the bookies Bale is going to be PFA player of the year & TBH he looked half fit tonight.
To be fair to the guy he is just back from injury. He wouldn't be my player of the year though. . . I'd say Charlie Adam or Tevez but I'd imagine Vidic will probably get it for kicking people!
What have Spurs and Heather Mills got in common ? The second leg is just for show !
Gomes with a howler after Spurs doing so well up to this.
What a d ick Gomes is!!
He'd be on the first train/bus/taxi out of Whitehart Lane if Harry had any sense
Its been a while but he is always liable to have one.
Quote from: Agent Orange on April 06, 2011, 12:39:29 PM
What have Spurs and Heather Mills got in common ? The second leg is just for show !
:D
Great run by Spurs!
Officially in the Top 8 best teams in Europe!
Officially they are ranked 30th currently - will improve next season maybe into the Top 25
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html)
Funny how a complete and utter humiliation is considered a good run yet going out to the best team the world after an absolute horrendous decision when leading the tie is considered a disaster!!
Van der Vaart was anonymous over both ties, showing why none of the elite sides went for him.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 09:59:59 PM
Officially they are ranked 30th currently - will improve next season maybe into the Top 25
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html)
Funny how a complete and utter humiliation is considered a good run yet going out to the best team the world after an absolute horrendous decision when leading the tie is considered a disaster!!
Don't believe everything you read! :D
One bad match does not a good run ruin....
Quote from: The Gs Man on April 13, 2011, 10:19:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 09:59:59 PM
Officially they are ranked 30th currently - will improve next season maybe into the Top 25
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html)
Funny how a complete and utter humiliation is considered a good run yet going out to the best team the world after an absolute horrendous decision when leading the tie is considered a disaster!!
Don't believe everything you read! :D
One bad match does not a good run ruin....
Two bad games to be fair
Quote from: The Gs Man on April 13, 2011, 10:19:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 09:59:59 PM
Officially they are ranked 30th currently - will improve next season maybe into the Top 25
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html)
Funny how a complete and utter humiliation is considered a good run yet going out to the best team the world after an absolute horrendous decision when leading the tie is considered a disaster!!
Don't believe everything you read! :D
One bad match does not a good run ruin....
We got him on a monday and my heart stood still
Gomes run ruin ruin Gomes run ruin
Somebody told me that he was from Brasil
Gomes run ruin ruin Gomes run ruin
Yes his hands will spill
Yes he's worse than Arsenal
C'mon 'Arry now we've had our fill
Gomes run ruin ruin Gomes run ruin
Any links to game?
Quote from: laoislad on August 22, 2011, 07:54:22 PM
Any links to game?
Only saw this post now, I'll send you on the highlights link with the added bonus of Gary Neville analysis.
Quote from: muppet on April 14, 2011, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on April 13, 2011, 10:19:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 09:59:59 PM
Officially they are ranked 30th currently - will improve next season maybe into the Top 25
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html)
Funny how a complete and utter humiliation is considered a good run yet going out to the best team the world after an absolute horrendous decision when leading the tie is considered a disaster!!
Don't believe everything you read! :D
One bad match does not a good run ruin....
We got him on a monday and my heart stood still
Gomes run ruin ruin Gomes run ruin
Somebody told me that he was from Brasil
Gomes run ruin ruin Gomes run ruin
Yes his hands will spill
Yes he's worse than Arsenal
C'mon 'Arry now we've had our fill
Gomes run ruin ruin Gomes run ruin
Gomes wasn't play you knob head.
Maybe you should read the post dates Tommy :D :D
Quote from: EC Unique on August 23, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
Maybe you should read the post dates Tommy :D :D
That would help :-[
Spuds been naughty (http://www.whufc.com/articles/20110824/west-ham-united-statement_2236884_2431058)
Oh Harry.
Fack off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk
WTF is Sandro at with that haircut?
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2 nil win tonight . up to 3rd with a game in hand . 25 points out if a possible 27 the last 9 games motoring well . Harry has put a nice squad together now if the tax man would get off his back and stop putting him under pressure we should have a good season.
Harry has done a fine job with Spurs, early days in the season yet but they must fancy their chances for CL football next season.
Quote from: ross4life on November 21, 2011, 10:05:39 PM
Harry has done a fine job with Spurs, early days in the season yet but they must fancy their chances for CL football next season.
hopefully . just glad that they held on to Modric over the summer he is a top class player andmakes them tick imo.
F**k them.
they have a good front attacking 5, and scott parker defensive midfeld is top class also
Spurs have a great run of fixtures coming up for the next 6 weeks. Can't see them dropping too many points in that time. They might even close in on the two Manchester clubs. That said they do have a very difficult final third of the season with having to go to Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Villa, Everton, etc.
Looks like Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal will be fighting for two Champions League spots. Think Newcastle will slowly drop out over the next month or so.
I think it's 5 fighting for 3. City should push on and wrap up the title by March. Manure, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spuds and Chelsea will sort out the other 3 places but no guarantees.
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
I think it's 5 fighting for 3. City should push on and wrap up the title by March. Manure, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spuds and Chelsea will sort out the other 3 places but no guarantees.
I agree with this post.
Quote from: Jonah on November 21, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
I think it's 5 fighting for 3. City should push on and wrap up the title by March. Manure, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spuds and Chelsea will sort out the other 3 places but no guarantees.
I agree with this post.
Fighting for a CL spot & he includes "Manure" whom i presume is Man United, let's be honest they will stroll into the CL while the others will fight it out.
Quote from: Jonah on November 21, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
I think it's 5 fighting for 3. City should push on and wrap up the title by March. Manure, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spuds and Chelsea will sort out the other 3 places but no guarantees.
I agree with this post.
Reallll y?
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 21, 2011, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 21, 2011, 10:05:39 PM
Harry has done a fine job with Spurs, early days in the season yet but they must fancy their chances for CL football next season.
hopefully . just glad that they held on to Modric over the summer he is a top class player andmakes them tick imo.
Way things are panning out I'd say he is happy enough himself that the transfer didn't happen.
Au contraire, I'd say he's pissed off. Probably missed out on 40 grand.
It was nice that Harry's return wasn't too taxing last night.
Do Spurs do a matchday tour like liverpool seem to be doing (look at Liverpool thread)?
Friend is hoping to attend a Spurs match in January/February for his 21st present so what would be a good game to go to with tickets easily obtained?
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 23, 2011, 12:08:41 PMDo Spurs do a matchday tour like liverpool seem to be doing (look at Liverpool thread)?
Spurs Tours do NOT operate on home matchdays:
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/tickets/stadium_tours.html
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 23, 2011, 12:08:41 PMFriend is hoping to attend a Spurs match in January/February for his 21st present so what would be a good game to go to with tickets easily obtained?
Tickets for the game with Everton (Wed. 11 Jan.) are now on general sale - I'd advise you to book NOW - seeing as it's a re--arranged game, midweek and soon after Xmas/New Year etc, I'd say it's as readily available as you'll get:
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/tickets/ticketinfo_latest.html
Beyond that, if you're on the website early on Thu.1st Dec, you should still have a chance for the Wolves game on Sat.14th Jan:
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/tickets/ticketinfo_dates.html
Wigan on 31st Jan should also be OK for non-Members, since they're unattractive opponents and it's a midweek game (Tue.), though again, you'll need to be quick off the mark on the day they go General Sale.
The only scheduled home game in February is Newcastle - not much chance there.
The FA Cup dates are 7th Jan (3rd Round), 28th Jan (4th) and 18th Feb (5th). If Spurs draw a lower League team (and don't get knocked out!), tickets may well be handy enough for these games - esp if live on TV.
Need to win against chelski tonight to keep in the running for a champions league spot .
Looking forward to this one tonight. A draw would do nicely.
Bale v Bosingwa only one winner.
are they singing 'john terry, you love it up the ass'?
Petr Cech seems to lose out in situations like that a good bit now. I think he's not been the same since the Stephen Hunt injury.
Have Adebayor for first goal and Spurs to win 2-1. On a bit of a sweat for 2nd half.
Will the FA act on the anti-semitic chanting from Spurs tonight?
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 22, 2011, 09:06:19 PM
Will the FA act on the anti-semitic chanting from Spurs tonight?
?
Chelsea's a bit light in centre back where's Alex these days?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 22, 2011, 09:10:25 PM
Chelsea's a bit light in centre back where's Alex these days?
Going Bye Bye.
On 3 December 2011, Alex submitted a transfer request, which was accepted [20], Alex was told along with Anelka they would be assigned different training times from the first team and train with the reserves
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 22, 2011, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 22, 2011, 09:06:19 PM
Will the FA act on the anti-semitic chanting from Spurs tonight?
?
Constant clapping followed by 'y*ds' on repeat.
I think Norf - that is a self styled moniker they pride themselves on. The Yid Army.
Quote from: Puckoon on December 22, 2011, 10:40:14 PM
I think Norf - that is a self styled moniker they pride themselves on. The Yid Army.
I know it is. Does that make it alright then?
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 22, 2011, 10:45:58 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 22, 2011, 10:40:14 PM
I think Norf - that is a self styled moniker they pride themselves on. The Yid Army.
I know it is. Does that make it alright then?
That depends on how quickly a hippo can sink a pint of stout.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 22, 2011, 09:06:19 PM
Will the FA act on the anti-semitic chanting from Spurs tonight?
Exactly. Spurs should be fined a few million and deducted about 15 points. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIvJC1_hKt8
Great chance for Englands barcelona to close the gap tonight.
Great chance for Spurs to cement 3rd spot tonight alright.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 27, 2011, 05:27:58 PM
Great chance for Spurs to cement 3rd spot tonight alright.
I think spurs will be battling it out with utd for 2nd spot come end of season.
arsenal and chelsea to battle it out for 4th.
Quote from: The Worker on December 27, 2011, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 27, 2011, 05:27:58 PM
Great chance for Spurs to cement 3rd spot tonight alright.
I think spurs will be battling it out with utd for 2nd spot come end of season.
arsenal and chelsea to battle it out for 4th.
Never heard of battle for 2nd place before. I think current top four will battle it out for the title or to secure a champions league place. Arsenal,Liverpool will battle for a Europa league place.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 27, 2011, 06:05:59 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 27, 2011, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 27, 2011, 05:27:58 PM
Great chance for Spurs to cement 3rd spot tonight alright.
I think spurs will be battling it out with utd for 2nd spot come end of season.
arsenal and chelsea to battle it out for 4th.
Never heard of battle for 2nd place before. I think current top four will battle it out for the title or to secure a champions league place. Arsenal,Liverpool will battle for a Europa league place.
Now you have then.
Fair play to spurs. I hope they win the best of the rest competition. 3rd would be fantastic for them. Big managerial position for some one next season when the wheeler dealer takes the poison chalice.
really impressed with spurs. look really good going forward. could they give the manchester clubs a run?
If another footballing striker comes in during January, Spurs will tick along like this or better for the whole season. There's plenty of competition for all other spots, but the way Spurs play, the centre forward has to be a footballer more than a finisher. Pav and Defoe aren't the fellas for the role. I'd live Berba back myself.
Bale is the best Spurs player I've ever seen by the way. There is nothing he can't do.
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QuoteBale is the best Spurs player I've ever seen by the way. There is nothing he can't do.
I dont think he has got opposable thumbs
Quote from: thewobbler on December 27, 2011, 09:49:53 PM
Bale is the best Spurs player I've ever seen by the way. There is nothing he can't do.
Better than Gascoigne,Hoddle?
Greaves? Ardiles? Edinburgh?
Quote from: thewobbler on December 27, 2011, 09:49:53 PM
If another footballing striker comes in during January, Spurs will tick along like this or better for the whole season. There's plenty of competition for all other spots, but the way Spurs play, the centre forward has to be a footballer more than a finisher. Pav and Defoe aren't the fellas for the role. I'd live Berba back myself.
Bale is the best Spurs player I've ever seen by the way. There is nothing he can't do.
bale is good but he's no vinny samways.
Dave Mackey, Martin Peters, Ardilles & Gazza.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 27, 2011, 09:49:53 PM
Bale is the best Spurs player I've ever seen by the way. There is nothing he can't do.
Oh come on. He's not even the best players at Spurs or in Wales.
Nah O Neill. There's perhaps neater footballers in both camps, but there is only a small handful of players in the world that have what Bale has, which is the ability to both bamboozle and burn top class defenders.
If Guardiola spends any time this summer pondering 'how do I make my 1st team even stronger again?', Bale's will be first door he knocks on.
You must be kidding.
Bale is good but he has many faults. He's the laziest player on the Spurs team (well, not now that Adebayor is there). Count the amount of goals Spurs concede that are directly down to him not tracking back. He's an average defender. He is also one-dimensional, albeit a terrific athlete. VDV and Modric have a much better footballing brain.
He's good but not great and never will be.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PM
You must be kidding.
Bale is good but he has many faults. He's the laziest player on the Spurs team (well, not now that Adebayor is there). Count the amount of goals Spurs concede that are directly down to him not tracking back. He's an average defender. He is also one-dimensional, albeit a terrific athlete. VDV and Modric have a much better footballing brain.
He's good but not great and never will be.
I would agree with O'Neill, a lot of his game is push the ball past the defender and run like f**k to outpace him. He often does but there isn't too much nuance about it.
Compare Bale to Nani. Last year the British media dined out on 3 good performances around the middle of the season, especially the 2 European games he starred in. The following week, Phil Neville put him in his pocket. He will burn FBs over and over yet his final ball is often atrocious. He had ONE assist last year and won POTY. Nani, on the other hand sets up bucketloads and scores. Even Walcott, with all his faults, had been one of the main providers for RVP (I'd have Bale over Walcott).
Bale will go missing for 2-3 months every season, especially if VDV or Modric are injured.
Bale is playing very well at the moment. Certainly better than what he was last season despite all the hype he got then (mainly on the back of the two Inter Milan games).
No doubt his main attribute is his blistering pace and his engine. He doesn't do anything fancy. He just knocks the ball ahead of himself and takes off like a scalded cat after it. He can give most fullbacks a 3 or 4 yard start and still overhaul them. Very hard to contain pace like that if given room. As a footballer he's no magician but running after him must be like trying to catch Carl Lewis. Good finish this evening though for the second.
O Neill it seems to me like you've decided that no matter what evidence is put before you, you've your mind made up on this one and aren't for changing. Don't worry, plenty of people did the same with Ronaldo a few years ago. It happens.
The Phil Neville argument is the most bizarre one. Everton set up a team to stop him last year and Phil took all the credit. Big f**king deal; I saw even Maradona get cleaned out in his prime from time to time.
Lazy? You've then never actually watched him play. Honestly, you mustn't have.
Will go missing for 2-3 months each season? I take it you're basing this on the ONE full season he has had as a top flight pro (the one in which he won POTY)?
Anyway, as mentioned at the start, you've your mind made up. Do me a favour and restart this conversation in May.
Are you drunk?
Where's the evidence? No one has put any evidence in front of me as to why he's the 'best Spurs player ever' (which is quite embarrassing). I have also given you evidence - he had one (1) assist last year. Feck me.
He won the POTY because it was voted on in January. Modric won the Spurs' fans POTY with VDV second.
I don't think Phil Neville would clean out Maradona. Tell me why he's the best Spurs player ever - ahead of Gazza, Hoddle, Ardiles, Ginola, Lineker, Greaves, Jennings, Mabbutt, England, Mullery, Campbell, Mackay, Blanchflower, Chivers, Modric ....
In terms of coming back next May - I don't see the relevance in the Bale debate. If you mean Spurs finally finishing above Arsenal that'll probably happen but it'll not make Bale a better player than I think he is.
Best player that I have seen at Spurs.
By the way, harping on about Phil Neville and introducing hypothetical situations really does make you come across as a 9 year old. Do you wear an Arsenal kit to bed by any chance?
Harping on? I mentioned Phil Neville once. You replied and I put it in context. I don't wear an Arsenal kit to bed. I don't have an Arsenal kit. You're turning this into some sort of North London debate and I have no interest in North London personally.
The 9-year old comment is silly.
Now that you list the players there are some great players in there, however Modric is not what I would call one of the greats, by those THFC standards.
Spurs are not a great team even by the present day lower standards of the EPL, I thought they looked a distant second best to a skillful Chelsea, the other day.
I would be disappointed for the sake of football standards, if Arsenal were to finish behind them in the league.
Quote from: Main Street on December 28, 2011, 12:33:59 AM
Now that you list the players there are some great players in there, however Modric is not what I would call one of the greats, by those THFC standards.
Spurs are not a great team even by the present day lower standards of the EPL, I thought they looked a distant second best to a skillful Chelsea, the other day.
I would be disappointed for the sake of football standards, if even Arsenal were to finish behind them in the league.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 28, 2011, 12:28:56 AM
Best player that I have seen at Spurs.
By the way, harping on about Phil Neville and introducing hypothetical situations really does make you come across as a 9 year old. Do you wear an Arsenal kit to bed by any chance?
No, but much to Mrs. O'Neill's disgust he insists on the Arsenal duvet which doesn't match the rest of the room. Shame.
Quote from: Main Street on December 28, 2011, 12:33:59 AM
Now that you list the players there are some great players in there, however Modric is not what I would call one of the greats, by those THFC standards.
Fair enough. But in terms of quality of player I place him many levels above Gareth Bale. I watched Modric for about 5 minutes solid tonight and he had countless touches with 100% success rate in terms of passing. He was the first player his team mates looked for. He made one run into their box and his shot was blocked. Within 20 secs he was intercepting a pass in his own box. Exudes class.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 28, 2011, 12:28:56 AM
Best player that I have seen at Spurs.
When did you start watching Spurs play?
Gazza: for one Spurs year, an amazing player, apart from that, out of form or injured. Bale already has an equal number of games and goals for Spurs and is only just starting out.
Hoddle: I was 11 when he left Spurs. Undoubtedly a brilliant player and proper Spurs. But based mostly for me on hearsay.
Ginola: arrived late in his career, was beautiful to watch, but thoroughly lazy and never delivered in big games.
Lineker: a great finisher, but a terrible footballer.
Greaves: I'm 34.
Jennings: I'm 34.
Mabbutt: A club stalwart no doubt. If Spurs had ever sold him though, it would have been to a weaker club, so he has no place on this list.
England: I'm 34, but you're really clutching at straws here.
Mullery: I'm 34.
Campbell: Big Sol was a fine player but a big raw centre half is never going to be a 'best player'.
Mackay Blanchflower, Chivers: you know the drill by now...
Modric: classy player, really classy. But take him out of Spurs midfield and then Sandro and Parker fill in. Not so much flair, but more steel and more direct. So he would be a loss, but not a huge one. Take Bale out of Spurs midfield though, and it's like playing a different team.
Modric has more football in his left foot than Bale.
Minder to be honest, you're talking out of your arse.
Modric has, in three and a half seasons at Spurs, contributed barely double figures in terms of either goals or assists (in total, not per season).
He has a majestic touch and a tremendous attitude. If you want to hold onto the ball forever without going anywhere, he's your man. But he rarely delivers in the final third, and as such is replaceable.
Would have Modric any day over Bale. Bale is a British player overhyped by British media.
no debate here.modric or van de vart are much better than Bale even tho Bale got me 13 pts in the fantasy league tonite ;)
There is no opinion like yours Wobbler.
Great to see Spurs generating a bit of debate! Finally!
COYS
Good to see spurs challenging for 2nd place. Hope they push the red scum down the table further.
Bale in my opinion is better. Modric is a class act but probably more suited to continental football. If your team are a goal down in a pl game who would you prefer to be giving the ball to?
id have bale over modric and definitly over van der vaart
I'd have Assou-Ekotto over the lot!!! :P
Quote from: SHEEDY on December 28, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
id have bale over modric and definitly over van der vaart
Pervert.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMBale is good but he has many faults.
You're talking through your hoop.
Note what his manager says (45 secs in):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16342274.stm
"He's got everything, absolutely everything, there's not a weakness in his make-up"Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe's the laziest player on the Spurs team (well, not now that Adebayor is there).
Really? According to Opta, he's covered more distance in games this season than any other Spurs player...
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMCount the amount of goals Spurs concede that are directly down to him not tracking back. He's an average defender.
Why don't you count them for us? You know, a few examples, maybe even two?
Meanwhile, whilst you're cranking up your calculator, you might wonder why he wears the No.3 shirt for Spurs. It's because he started out at Left Back, and still occasionally fills in when the (extremely consistent) Assou-Ekotto (and Danny Rose) is unavailable.
In fact last season, when Bale was blazing a trail throught he Champions League, Redknapp insisted that he still thinks LB is Bale's "natural position" and where he'll possibly end up playing.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe is also one-dimensional, albeit a terrific athlete.
Meanwhile, back in the real world:
"In terms of Bale himself, the stats show that he is pivotal to Spurs' side, [up until the Chelsea game] assisting 4 goals and scoring 5 himself, creating 42 chances this season, on average creating a chance every 30 minutes. Spurs, although they are fantastic attacking side, still seem to have a problem with goalscorers and without Bale against Sunderland they only managed to scrape a 1-0 victory, with him in the side they have managed to score more freely, with him being the pivotal key to Spurs' attack."http://www.eplindex.com/spurs-chelsea-importance-gareth-bale/
All of which explains why, for intance, in Spurs last nine games, he has scored or provided an Assist in 8 of them...
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMVDV and Modric have a much better footballing brain.
VDV is nearly 29, Modric is 26, whereas Bale is 22. It is only natural that they have more nous and experience than he has. But I saw a lot of Modric when he first joined Spurs (aged 23) and although he plays a different role, Bale is comparable in ability and contribution on a same-age basis.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe's good but not great and never will be.
So his fellow professionals in the EPL voted him their "Player of the Year" aged 21 for being merely "good"? Yeah, very likely...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13110874.stm
Still what would they know, eh? Far better to trust an objective, continental analysis of him, like this one from last season:
Spanish newspaper El Mundo said: "Bale combines the height and build of an 800-metre runner like Steve Ovett with the acceleration and directness of a rugby winger like Bryan Habana. And, when he gets to the byline, he delivers curling crosses like a Brazilian. Big words? Yes, but that's what Bale is like – easily the greatest sensation in the opening month and a half of the Champions League. Ask Maicon what he thinks after the two exhibitions Bale turned in against Inter. Yesterday he left Maicon for dead and then a wily old fox like Lúcio was left in his wake like someone trying to follow the vapour trail of an aeroplane. Three goals and two assists — against the European champions. His performances have been stunning."Of course, Bale is not the finished article, but he's visibly getting better by the day. If he continues his present progress, there is no good reason why another couple of seasons' experience cannot see him become the equal of VDV/Modric/King - currently the other top 3 players at WHL.
At least.
I think Bale's success in last year's CL was largely down to the element of surprise him not being that well known outside England, I can't imagine many of the top European clubs had heard of him before he destroyed Maicon. If they keep up their current form and qualify for next year's competition it'll be interesting to see how he copes against the bigger sides.
Some of the one touch stuff spurs was playing last night was a joy to watch. If they can keep the majority of the team fit they'll defo push for 2nd.
Sandro reminds me of something looks wise but can't think who
Quote from: gawa316 on December 28, 2011, 03:47:36 PM
Some of the one touch stuff spurs was playing last night was a joy to watch. If they can keep the majority of the team fit they'll defo push for 2nd.
Sandro reminds me of something looks wise but can't think who
Sean Óg?
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhX2M8o16NUXJLd4ARB-gszabfzLP3nT7u3aJnHS45npLycfrHNg)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/28/article-1209667-062D6617000005DC-822_468x393.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OCeBDxWIPy4/SmCyDYms2KI/AAAAAAAAAcA/nb02H8oHbVg/s1600/SaturdayNightFever.jpg)
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 28, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMBale is good but he has many faults.
You're talking through your hoop.
Note what his manager says (45 secs in):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16342274.stm
"He's got everything, absolutely everything, there's not a weakness in his make-up"
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe's the laziest player on the Spurs team (well, not now that Adebayor is there).
Really? According to Opta, he's covered more distance in games this season than any other Spurs player...
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMCount the amount of goals Spurs concede that are directly down to him not tracking back. He's an average defender.
Why don't you count them for us? You know, a few examples, maybe even two?
Meanwhile, whilst you're cranking up your calculator, you might wonder why he wears the No.3 shirt for Spurs. It's because he started out at Left Back, and still occasionally fills in when the (extremely consistent) Assou-Ekotto (and Danny Rose) is unavailable.
In fact last season, when Bale was blazing a trail throught he Champions League, Redknapp insisted that he still thinks LB is Bale's "natural position" and where he'll possibly end up playing.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe is also one-dimensional, albeit a terrific athlete.
Meanwhile, back in the real world:
"In terms of Bale himself, the stats show that he is pivotal to Spurs' side, [up until the Chelsea game] assisting 4 goals and scoring 5 himself, creating 42 chances this season, on average creating a chance every 30 minutes. Spurs, although they are fantastic attacking side, still seem to have a problem with goalscorers and without Bale against Sunderland they only managed to scrape a 1-0 victory, with him in the side they have managed to score more freely, with him being the pivotal key to Spurs' attack."
http://www.eplindex.com/spurs-chelsea-importance-gareth-bale/
All of which explains why, for intance, in Spurs last nine games, he has scored or provided an Assist in 8 of them...
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMVDV and Modric have a much better footballing brain.
VDV is nearly 29, Modric is 26, whereas Bale is 22. It is only natural that they have more nous and experience than he has. But I saw a lot of Modric when he first joined Spurs (aged 23) and although he plays a different role, Bale is comparable in ability and contribution on a same-age basis.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe's good but not great and never will be.
So his fellow professionals in the EPL voted him their "Player of the Year" aged 21 for being merely "good"? Yeah, very likely...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13110874.stm
Still what would they know, eh? Far better to trust an objective, continental analysis of him, like this one from last season:
Spanish newspaper El Mundo said: "Bale combines the height and build of an 800-metre runner like Steve Ovett with the acceleration and directness of a rugby winger like Bryan Habana. And, when he gets to the byline, he delivers curling crosses like a Brazilian. Big words? Yes, but that's what Bale is like – easily the greatest sensation in the opening month and a half of the Champions League. Ask Maicon what he thinks after the two exhibitions Bale turned in against Inter. Yesterday he left Maicon for dead and then a wily old fox like Lúcio was left in his wake like someone trying to follow the vapour trail of an aeroplane. Three goals and two assists — against the European champions. His performances have been stunning."
Of course, Bale is not the finished article, but he's visibly getting better by the day. If he continues his present progress, there is no good reason why another couple of seasons' experience cannot see him become the equal of VDV/Modric/King - currently the other top 3 players at WHL.
At least.
I hope you don't find this insulting as you've obviously spent a lot of time writing that, but I'd like to reply in a Joycean manner:
To quote harry redknapp is not doing you any favours the man's a rentaquote and mostly full of it especially when talking about his own players i wouldn't trust anything that comes out of his mouth as genuine the reason he has covered more ground is that he has played more games than any other midfielder in fact the double barrelled boy is the only to have played more i haven't a clue what your point is about him playing lb it only worsens your argument he's a shit defender for a defender never mind a midfielder age has nothing to do with footballing brain fabregas had a better footballing brain at 16 than ray parlour at 32 el mundo is the continent's version of the sun and i don't care for quotes from others about bale i like to trust my own judgement and for me he's a good player with glaring faults not a great one and you'll be wise to that soon do a bale-watch on his next game. A man's errors are his portals of discovery.
Harry Redknapp in hyperbole shocker.
Quote from: ONeill on December 28, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 28, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMBale is good but he has many faults.
You're talking through your hoop.
Note what his manager says (45 secs in):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16342274.stm
"He's got everything, absolutely everything, there's not a weakness in his make-up"
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe's the laziest player on the Spurs team (well, not now that Adebayor is there).
Really? According to Opta, he's covered more distance in games this season than any other Spurs player...
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMCount the amount of goals Spurs concede that are directly down to him not tracking back. He's an average defender.
Why don't you count them for us? You know, a few examples, maybe even two?
Meanwhile, whilst you're cranking up your calculator, you might wonder why he wears the No.3 shirt for Spurs. It's because he started out at Left Back, and still occasionally fills in when the (extremely consistent) Assou-Ekotto (and Danny Rose) is unavailable.
In fact last season, when Bale was blazing a trail throught he Champions League, Redknapp insisted that he still thinks LB is Bale's "natural position" and where he'll possibly end up playing.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe is also one-dimensional, albeit a terrific athlete.
Meanwhile, back in the real world:
"In terms of Bale himself, the stats show that he is pivotal to Spurs' side, [up until the Chelsea game] assisting 4 goals and scoring 5 himself, creating 42 chances this season, on average creating a chance every 30 minutes. Spurs, although they are fantastic attacking side, still seem to have a problem with goalscorers and without Bale against Sunderland they only managed to scrape a 1-0 victory, with him in the side they have managed to score more freely, with him being the pivotal key to Spurs' attack."
http://www.eplindex.com/spurs-chelsea-importance-gareth-bale/
All of which explains why, for intance, in Spurs last nine games, he has scored or provided an Assist in 8 of them...
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMVDV and Modric have a much better footballing brain.
VDV is nearly 29, Modric is 26, whereas Bale is 22. It is only natural that they have more nous and experience than he has. But I saw a lot of Modric when he first joined Spurs (aged 23) and although he plays a different role, Bale is comparable in ability and contribution on a same-age basis.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe's good but not great and never will be.
So his fellow professionals in the EPL voted him their "Player of the Year" aged 21 for being merely "good"? Yeah, very likely...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13110874.stm
Still what would they know, eh? Far better to trust an objective, continental analysis of him, like this one from last season:
Spanish newspaper El Mundo said: "Bale combines the height and build of an 800-metre runner like Steve Ovett with the acceleration and directness of a rugby winger like Bryan Habana. And, when he gets to the byline, he delivers curling crosses like a Brazilian. Big words? Yes, but that's what Bale is like – easily the greatest sensation in the opening month and a half of the Champions League. Ask Maicon what he thinks after the two exhibitions Bale turned in against Inter. Yesterday he left Maicon for dead and then a wily old fox like Lúcio was left in his wake like someone trying to follow the vapour trail of an aeroplane. Three goals and two assists — against the European champions. His performances have been stunning."
Of course, Bale is not the finished article, but he's visibly getting better by the day. If he continues his present progress, there is no good reason why another couple of seasons' experience cannot see him become the equal of VDV/Modric/King - currently the other top 3 players at WHL.
At least.
I hope you don't find this insulting as you've obviously spent a lot of time writing that, but I'd like to reply in a Joycean manner:
To quote harry redknapp is not doing you any favours the man's a rentaquote and mostly full of it especially when talking about his own players i wouldn't trust anything that comes out of his mouth as genuine the reason he has covered more ground is that he has played more games than any other midfielder in fact the double barrelled boy is the only to have played more i haven't a clue what your point is about him playing lb it only worsens your argument he's a shit defender for a defender never mind a midfielder age has nothing to do with footballing brain fabregas had a better footballing brain at 16 than ray parlour at 32 el mundo is the continent's version of the sun and i don't care for quotes from others about bale i like to trust my own judgement and for me he's a good player with glaring faults not a great one and you'll be wise to that soon do a bale-watch on his next game. A man's errors are his portals of discovery.
Wha?
Anyhow, care to explain why Bale's fellow pros voted him Player of the Year last season, when he was still only 21? (An honour shared with three other Taffs, btw, Rush, Hughes and Giggs)
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 29, 2011, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 28, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 28, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMBale is good but he has many faults.
You're talking through your hoop.
Note what his manager says (45 secs in):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16342274.stm
"He's got everything, absolutely everything, there's not a weakness in his make-up"
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe's the laziest player on the Spurs team (well, not now that Adebayor is there).
Really? According to Opta, he's covered more distance in games this season than any other Spurs player...
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMCount the amount of goals Spurs concede that are directly down to him not tracking back. He's an average defender.
Why don't you count them for us? You know, a few examples, maybe even two?
Meanwhile, whilst you're cranking up your calculator, you might wonder why he wears the No.3 shirt for Spurs. It's because he started out at Left Back, and still occasionally fills in when the (extremely consistent) Assou-Ekotto (and Danny Rose) is unavailable.
In fact last season, when Bale was blazing a trail throught he Champions League, Redknapp insisted that he still thinks LB is Bale's "natural position" and where he'll possibly end up playing.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe is also one-dimensional, albeit a terrific athlete.
Meanwhile, back in the real world:
"In terms of Bale himself, the stats show that he is pivotal to Spurs' side, [up until the Chelsea game] assisting 4 goals and scoring 5 himself, creating 42 chances this season, on average creating a chance every 30 minutes. Spurs, although they are fantastic attacking side, still seem to have a problem with goalscorers and without Bale against Sunderland they only managed to scrape a 1-0 victory, with him in the side they have managed to score more freely, with him being the pivotal key to Spurs' attack."
http://www.eplindex.com/spurs-chelsea-importance-gareth-bale/
All of which explains why, for intance, in Spurs last nine games, he has scored or provided an Assist in 8 of them...
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMVDV and Modric have a much better footballing brain.
VDV is nearly 29, Modric is 26, whereas Bale is 22. It is only natural that they have more nous and experience than he has. But I saw a lot of Modric when he first joined Spurs (aged 23) and although he plays a different role, Bale is comparable in ability and contribution on a same-age basis.
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 11:15:43 PMHe's good but not great and never will be.
So his fellow professionals in the EPL voted him their "Player of the Year" aged 21 for being merely "good"? Yeah, very likely...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13110874.stm
Still what would they know, eh? Far better to trust an objective, continental analysis of him, like this one from last season:
Spanish newspaper El Mundo said: "Bale combines the height and build of an 800-metre runner like Steve Ovett with the acceleration and directness of a rugby winger like Bryan Habana. And, when he gets to the byline, he delivers curling crosses like a Brazilian. Big words? Yes, but that's what Bale is like – easily the greatest sensation in the opening month and a half of the Champions League. Ask Maicon what he thinks after the two exhibitions Bale turned in against Inter. Yesterday he left Maicon for dead and then a wily old fox like Lúcio was left in his wake like someone trying to follow the vapour trail of an aeroplane. Three goals and two assists — against the European champions. His performances have been stunning."
Of course, Bale is not the finished article, but he's visibly getting better by the day. If he continues his present progress, there is no good reason why another couple of seasons' experience cannot see him become the equal of VDV/Modric/King - currently the other top 3 players at WHL.
At least.
I hope you don't find this insulting as you've obviously spent a lot of time writing that, but I'd like to reply in a Joycean manner:
To quote harry redknapp is not doing you any favours the man's a rentaquote and mostly full of it especially when talking about his own players i wouldn't trust anything that comes out of his mouth as genuine the reason he has covered more ground is that he has played more games than any other midfielder in fact the double barrelled boy is the only to have played more i haven't a clue what your point is about him playing lb it only worsens your argument he's a shit defender for a defender never mind a midfielder age has nothing to do with footballing brain fabregas had a better footballing brain at 16 than ray parlour at 32 el mundo is the continent's version of the sun and i don't care for quotes from others about bale i like to trust my own judgement and for me he's a good player with glaring faults not a great one and you'll be wise to that soon do a bale-watch on his next game. A man's errors are his portals of discovery.
Wha?
Anyhow, care to explain why Bale's fellow pros voted him Player of the Year last season, when he was still only 21?
In fairness most people thought that decison was absolute bollocks. Most footballers will vote for whoever has been bigged up on Sky Sports News in between roasting sessions. And when they voted last season Bale was the flavour of the month after the Inter Milan games.
Quote from: ONeill on December 28, 2011, 12:40:20 AM
Quote from: Main Street on December 28, 2011, 12:33:59 AM
Now that you list the players there are some great players in there, however Modric is not what I would call one of the greats, by those THFC standards.
Fair enough. But in terms of quality of player I place him many levels above Gareth Bale. I watched Modric for about 5 minutes solid tonight and he had countless touches with 100% success rate in terms of passing. He was the first player his team mates looked for. He made one run into their box and his shot was blocked. Within 20 secs he was intercepting a pass in his own box. Exudes class.
My main game of reference is the Spurs v Chelsea game which I watched closely, where I felt Chelsea were a few notches ahead of Spurs and Modric was unable to impress what you describe, especially when the game called for his influence.
By my reckoning, Spurs may be in the hunt for 4th place but if I was connected to Arsenal FC I would be more than disappointed if that team finished the table in front.
The season is only at the half way stage and way too early to judge the quality of Spurs in this campaign.
Any links to tonight's Spurs game?
http://www.firstrow.tv
http://www.firstrow.tv/watch/101505/1/watch-tottenham-hotspur-vs-everton-fc.html
Sorted man, cheers.
The way Man City are performing Tottenham will have the chance to overtake them.
1-0 up at half-time Playing some good football.
Aaron Lennon with the goal.
COYS!!
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2-0!
|Bullet from Ekkotto
Easy win for Spurs tonight! Will go joint top with a win against Wolves on Saturday. COME ON YOU SPURS!!!
The goals are here
the second was a screamer
http://www.goalsarena.org/video/england-barclays-premier-league/11-01-2012-tottenham-everton_en.html
2 deflections.
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 11, 2012, 09:38:46 PM
Will go joint top with a win against Wolves on Saturday.
If they win 23-0.
I'll take 2 deflections every week thanks O Neill.
Young Livermore played a blinder tonight. It's nice to see a Spurs team so settled that youngsters can settle in.
Spurs don't seem to be playing as exciting football as they were last year but they have shown great consistency after a poor start to the season.
Defence seems to be more solid, how many mistakes has Friedel made is year compared to Gomes in the past and King has played more games this year.
Still can't seem them winning the title but it looks like they are nailed on for thier best season since Clive Allen hit 49 goals in 1986-87. Pity for them that Redknapp will be gone next year though.
Quote from: Orangemac on January 11, 2012, 11:08:42 PM
Pity for them that Redknapp will be gone next year though.
Sharing meals with Bronson.
Quote from: Orangemac on January 11, 2012, 11:08:42 PM
Spurs don't seem to be playing as exciting football as they were last year but they have shown great consistency after a poor start to the season.
Defence seems to be more solid, how many mistakes has Friedel made is year compared to Gomes in the past and King has played more games this year.
Still can't seem them winning the title but it looks like they are nailed on for thier best season since Clive Allen hit 49 goals in 1986-87. Pity for them that Redknapp will be gone next year though.
Motoring along nicely defence has tightened up since last year and Friedel has been a great addition . Talk that they are interested in Samba who would be a good buy imo
Do you think Spurs are looking at a Leeds situation. Harry and Levy have embarked on a but of an expensive projest over the last while and although a top four finish will guarantee CL football again can the Club keep affording to pay their increasing wage bill and Harry's Wish list??!
I wouldn't think there's many comparisons with Spurs and Leeds. Spurs of now still haven't spent the £18m fee for a single player that Leeds paid for Ferdinand a decade ago. Spurs also aren't paying £70k a week for Seth Johnson to warm a bench; there's maybe 3 players at the club on anything around that wage and they're all first choice.
Levy and Redknapp also made a conscious decision in the past 18 months to trim the fat from the squad - Hutton, Keane, Palacios, Crouch, Bentley - and fill out the squad with youngsters. The new buying policy is first team players and young players of potential only i.e there's no big wages outside the first 16-17.
Next season will be interesting; Bale and Modric are sought by every top team in Europe, while Walker, Kaboul, Sandro, VDV and Ekotto will be on the radars of many top sides. So bigger wages will be required. Adebayor is essential to the system and must be bought.
But Levy is almost a cartoon character in his Jewishness, and you can be sure he has prudent plans in place. I'm guessing Kranjcar, Dos Santos, Pav, Jenas, Gallas, Gomes and Corluka will all be put out to roost, and their wages channelled to the first team, with CL earnings used to buy and wage youngsters.
Bale voted onto UEFA's team of the year, only player from an English club.
He keeps pretty exalted company seeing as a bunch of GAA heads think he's no better than Walcott.
I don't think anyone would say a player is no better than Walcott. Walcott has a lot to improve and prove.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 18, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
Bale voted onto UEFA's team of the year, only player from an English club.
He keeps pretty exalted company seeing as a bunch of GAA heads think he's no better than Walcott.
Zinedine Kilbane said Walcott was the best midfielder of his generation so he did.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 18, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
Bale voted onto UEFA's team of the year, only player from an English club.
He keeps pretty exalted company seeing as a bunch of GAA heads think he's no better than Walcott.
Was a fan vote other options were Eden Hazard,Di Maria,Mata & Young.
Should never have sold Crouch or yiz would have beaten the league leaders today!!!
Gutted after that today. Ballotelli shouldn't have been on the pitch to win that penalty.
Thems the breaks I suppose...
Now available.
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Harry picks his Spurs team
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Spurs linked with Louis Saha - is this 'arry trying to show the courts he has lost his marbles??
Harry got off according to a tweet from the editor of Sky Sports online....
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 08, 2012, 11:40:24 AM
Harry got off according to a tweet from the editor of Sky Sports online....
All clear to lead Engerland into war in the Euros now
Looking very like Arry is off at the end of the season the the England job (God help him ::)).
Who would be likely to replace him at Spuds?
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 31, 2012, 01:22:52 PM
Spurs linked with Louis Saha - is this 'arry trying to show the courts he has lost his marbles??
On today's form he Looks like another good signing.
Have to say, that's good football.
Away to eat soap.
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A good day on the high road today, the best year in over 30 years of following the team. Harry, thank you. COYS!!
When asked by a journalist on the prospect of taking england to Poland and Ukraine this summer -
"Could you handle the Euros", Harry Redknapp replied "No bother, as long as they are unmakred and untraceable"
Great win for Spurs last night!! Still in with a shout!! COYS
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 12, 2012, 11:00:57 AM
When asked by a journalist on the prospect of taking england to Poland and Ukraine this summer -
"Could you handle the Euros", Harry Redknapp replied "No bother, as long as they are unmakred and untraceable"
........to coin a phrase......
Take note, Spain is my banker unless the group stage is too taxing.
Another defeat looking over their shoulders now.
The Tottenham v Bolton game has been abandoned. Bolton player Patrice Muamba collapsed away from the play and it is believed his heart has stopped. On his way to hospital but it doesn't look good.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 17, 2012, 06:41:12 PM
The Tottenham v Bolton game has been abandoned. Bolton player Patrice Muamba collapsed away from the play and it is believed his heart has stopped. On his way to hospital but it doesn't look good.
Just saw the news on sky now. Puts sports in perspective hope he pulls through.
Reports are that the ambulance crew got him breathing again, hope he pulls through...
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Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 17, 2012, 06:41:12 PM
The Tottenham v Bolton game has been abandoned. Bolton player Patrice Muamba collapsed away from the play and it is believed his heart has stopped. On his way to hospital but it doesn't look good.
Just saw the news on sky now. Puts sports in perspective hope he pulls through.
agree. terrible news indeed
Good news - according to hospital statement he's in a stable condition - hopefully he's through the worse.
http://live-blog.sport.uk.msn.com/Event/Latest_news_on_Fabrice_Muamba
Latest is that he is in a critically ill condition in intensive care. hope to god he pulls through
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Can't you put this up on the Aston Vile thread Dinny? ;)
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Can't you put this up on the Aston Vile thread Dinny? ;)
The Liverpool thread would be better but they have lost their sense of humour..
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Doesn't read so well for Mairtin O'Neill and Sunderland either.
'Arry gone.
Quote from: Minder on June 13, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
'Arry gone.
Strange that a manager finishes 4th and is gone the next year. If Drogba hadn't scored v Bayern would he still be there or was it purely about money?
Moyes to Spurs seems to be done deal according to Twitter which doesn't seem to be a popular move among Spurs fans. Hope he stays with Everton.
I'd be pissed if I was a Spurs fan too.
David Moyes!
Liverpool, Man U and Arsenal fans will be happy as there will be one less team in with a shout of 4th next year.
Quote from: Orangemac on June 13, 2012, 11:24:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 13, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
'Arry gone.
Strange that a manager finishes 4th and is gone the next year. If Drogba hadn't scored v Bayern would he still be there or was it purely about money?
Moyes to Spurs seems to be done deal according to Twitter which doesn't seem to be a popular move among Spurs fans. Hope he stays with Everton.
Moyes wouldn't be the glamour option but I wouldn't mind seeing what he can do with a decent team and a few quid to spend.
Any word from Dave Whelan about this yet?
Quote from: Gazzler on June 13, 2012, 11:27:53 PM
I'd be pissed if I was a Spurs fan too.
David Moyes!
Liverpool, Man U and Arsenal fans will be happy as there will be one less team in with a shout of 4th next year.
Chelsea,Liverpool,Arsenal will be happy. The Manchester clubs are so far ahead of the rest in England that the battle for fourth won't concern them next year.
Quote from: Orangemac on June 13, 2012, 11:24:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 13, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
'Arry gone.
Strange that a manager finishes 4th and is gone the next year. If Drogba hadn't scored v Bayern would he still be there or was it purely about money?
Moyes to Spurs seems to be done deal according to Twitter which doesn't seem to be a popular move among Spurs fans. Hope he stays with Everton.
He was going either way Levy had enough of him.
He refused a new 3 year contact in February when he though he was going to get the England job. He took his eye off his job and rolled down the window of the range rover to anyone that would listen telling them what an honour it would be to mange england. He should have been saying he had a job and was fully commited to it.
Rumour has it he is off to the middle east/asia to earn big bucks.
The biggest worry for Spurs will be the likes of Modric, Bale and VDV using this as another excuse to jump ship following no CL football. That will weaken them more than losing one trophy Redknapp.
I can't see him sticking round England, he'll sit and wait for the England job.
He'll go somewhere that allows Canine Financial Services and will dodge tax there! Spurs fukced and there will be bargains had in WHL this summer!
I can see Spurs losing the majority of their key men now. Sad to see.
Tommysmith, I liked your post on him rolling down the range rover window. Hugely over-rated as a manager though, you would swear the man won the league twice with Spurs the way some of his journalist buddies write about him.
Would Capbello be a contender for the spurs seat now? Might help keep some of the players if got in and a few quid to spend as spurs always seem to have.
He'd be a better option than Moyes or Martinez. Be interesting to see what Moyes could do with a few quid and bigger expectation.
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2012, 12:16:51 PM
Tommysmith, I liked your post on him rolling down the range rover window. Hugely over-rated as a manager though, you would swear the man won the league twice with Spurs the way some of his journalist buddies write about him.
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Go on 'arry, give us a story.
ABV new manager.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18610066
Will Modric stay now?
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 14, 2012, 12:16:51 PM
Tommysmith, I liked your post on him rolling down the range rover window. Hugely over-rated as a manager though, you would swear the man won the league twice with Spurs the way some of his journalist buddies write about him.
Take a look at the graphic on this article - it's interactive, so if you click on all the other Spurs managers' names, you can compare their win rate with Harry's (49.3%):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/9333283/How-Harry-Redknapp-took-Tottenham-to-the-Premier-League-heights.html
His win rate is the highest since Bill Nicholson's and finishes of 4th, 5th and 4th (after saving them from likely relegation the season before, btw), represents the highest 3 consecutive top-flight finishes since 1964.
And it's not as if he spent/wasted money in the transfer market, either:
http://www.topspurs.com/thfc-transfers.htm
In fact, since he joined Spurs in October 2008, his big signings have been:
Defoe (£16m) - well worth it (imo);
Keane (£15m) - £5m profit on the deal with L'pool;
Palacios (£12m) - disappointing, but still got £6m(?) back from Stoke;
Crouch (£9.5m) - excellent signing, and a £2.5m profit from Stoke;
Bassong (£8m) - jury still out.
More importantly, he also signed Parker (£5m), VDV (£8m), Sandro (£6m), Kaboul (£5m), Kranjar (£2.5m) and Walker (£4m), Friedel (Free) - every one an absolute bargain (if not a steal) - as well as excellent loans in Adebayor and Saha etc.
Compare that with the the 3 1/2 years prior to Harry taking over, when Spurs signed Corluka (£8.5m), Pavyluchenko (£14m), Bentley (£15m), Gomes (£9m), Hutton (£8m), Woodgate (£7.5m), K-P Boateng (£6.5m) and Bent (£16.5m)... ::)
P.S. Am making no predictions about ABV, but he has a hell of an act to follow, based on all of the above.
Quote from: Evil Genius on July 04, 2012, 12:26:01 AM
In fact, since he joined Spurs in October 2008, his big signings have been:
Defoe (£16m) - well worth it (imo);
Keane (£15m) - £5m profit on the deal with L'pool;
Palacios (£12m) - disappointing, but still got £6m(?) back from Stoke;
Crouch (£9.5m) - excellent signing, and a £2.5m profit from Stoke;
Bassong (£8m) - jury still out.
EG you make some good points above but you defence of his transfer policy just about ruins it all
I'm really not sure how you can try arguing that the £60m above was well spent, when Harry himself either since sold each of them or else reduced them to a squad player.
His eye for talent is seriously overrated IMHO. Kranky went the same way.
Vdv, Sandro, Walker had nothing to do with him.
Parker had been a Spurs target since he was at Charlton.
Which to me leaves Kaboul as his only signing of note and worth. This is the Kaboul who had previously been brought to English football by Spurs.
Generally I liked Harry, but his transfer nous is beyond suspect.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 04, 2012, 02:05:41 AM
Quote from: Evil Genius on July 04, 2012, 12:26:01 AM
In fact, since he joined Spurs in October 2008, his big signings have been:
Defoe (£16m) - well worth it (imo);
Keane (£15m) - £5m profit on the deal with L'pool;
Palacios (£12m) - disappointing, but still got £6m(?) back from Stoke;
Crouch (£9.5m) - excellent signing, and a £2.5m profit from Stoke;
Bassong (£8m) - jury still out.
EG you make some good points above but you defence of his transfer policy just about ruins it all
I'm really not sure how you can try arguing that the £60m above was well spent, when Harry himself either since sold each of them or else reduced them to a squad player.
"Reduced to squad players" is it?
Football is nothing if not a squad game these days. The fact that Harry could keep the likes of eg Defoe happy, despite not picking him every week, speaks volumes for Harry's man-management.
As for Keane, we sold him for £20m, bought him back for £15m a few months later - cracking business for someone who was never going to be more than a squad player, anyhow. (As for his subsequent loan-out and sale etc, this was prompted by Keane acting the maggot over a banned Xmas Party, thereby leaving HR with no choice but to ditch him, if he were to maintain authority).
Re Palacios, I've accepted it didn't work out, but it was hardly a hugely expensive mistake; besides, every manager screws up occasionally (Ferguson/Veron?)
Crouch was a great purchase, but was determined to go to get regular 1st team football, and even then Harry turned a profit, whilst replacing him with a superior player on loan (Adebayor).
Bassong? Wait and see.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 04, 2012, 02:05:41 AM
His eye for talent is seriously overrated IMHO. Kranky went the same way.
Harry bought Krancjar as a squad player, at a price which was right for that staus. Krancjar demanded guaranteed 1st team football. He wasn't good enough for that considering the alternatives, so we sold him at a profit, which can go towards buying a replacement squad player. Seems like a result to me.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 04, 2012, 02:05:41 AMVdv, Sandro, Walker had nothing to do with him.
Parker had been a Spurs target since he was at Charlton.
Which to me leaves Kaboul as his only signing of note and worth. This is the Kaboul who had previously been brought to English football by Spurs.
So when Spurs "waste" £60m on five players you don't like/rate, it's down to Harry. But when Spurs sign undoubted bargains, it's down to someone else, then?
Anyhow, re VDV I have it on very good authority that when Levy refused to sign Joe Cole on the last day of the transfer window, Harry went absolutely ballistic and demanded a replacement, which is why Levy relented and signed a player (VDV) whom he (DL) had previously declined to follow up.
As for Parker, the player had other offers, including apparently on more money, but he was persuaded to join Spurs by HR personally.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 04, 2012, 02:05:41 AMGenerally I liked Harry, but his transfer nous is beyond suspect.
OK, look at it this way,
do you consider the squad inherited by HR to be better/worse/the same as that which he is bequeaths to ABV?I think there's only one answer to that. Of course, it could be argued that this was not essentially down to HR, except that when he took over, he made it a pre-condition that Spurs get rid of (Levy's) Director of Football, Damien Comolli*, so as to give himself more influence over transfers.
The fact is, the playing squad improved markedly under HR (without having to spend "silly money") and results subsequently improved accordingly.
There were no signs that this improvement could not have been maintained, but still he was sacked by the man who also eg sacked Martin Jol and replaced him with Juande Ramos...
As I say, I will reserve judgement on ABV, but if Spurs don't become an established Top 4 team in the next couple of seasons, then Levy's sacking of HR will unquestionably be proven to have been a (Christian) gross error.
* - Since sacked from the same role by Liverpool, after a disastrous 18 months...
In fact, since he joined Spurs in October 2008, his big signings have been:
Defoe (£16m) - well worth it (imo);
Keane (£15m) - £5m profit on the deal with L'pool;
Palacios (£12m) - disappointing, but still got £6m(?) back from Stoke;
Crouch (£9.5m) - excellent signing, and a £2.5m profit from Stoke;
Bassong (£8m) - jury still out.
More importantly, he also signed Parker (£5m), VDV (£8m), Sandro (£6m), Kaboul (£5m), Kranjar (£2.5m) and Walker (£4m), Friedel (Free) - every one an absolute bargain (if not a steal) - as well as excellent loans in Adebayor and Saha etc.
Hilariously deluded. More hilarious though. If Wenger wanted to improve his team there'd be uproar if he bought any of those players. VDV possibly but he's made of paper.
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 02:26:31 PM
In fact, since he joined Spurs in October 2008, his big signings have been:
Defoe (£16m) - well worth it (imo);
Keane (£15m) - £5m profit on the deal with L'pool;
Palacios (£12m) - disappointing, but still got £6m(?) back from Stoke;
Crouch (£9.5m) - excellent signing, and a £2.5m profit from Stoke;
Bassong (£8m) - jury still out.
More importantly, he also signed Parker (£5m), VDV (£8m), Sandro (£6m), Kaboul (£5m), Kranjar (£2.5m) and Walker (£4m), Friedel (Free) - every one an absolute bargain (if not a steal) - as well as excellent loans in Adebayor and Saha etc.
Hilariously deluded. More hilarious though. If Wenger wanted to improve his team there'd be uproar if he bought any of those players. VDV possibly but he's made of paper.
Let's compare like-with-like, then.
Defoe is not Spurs 1st choice striker, but a squad player. As such, would you rather have him at the emirates over the Arse's equivalents, Bendtner, Chamakh or Gervino?
Scott Parker, £5m for the Footballer of the Year or Arshavin, £15m for a load of w**k? If that's "hilarious", then keep me laughing.
Sandro made 27 appearances for Spurs last season, Frimpong made 19 for the Arse. Sandro has 9 full caps for Brazil, Frimpong has, er...
Kaboul cost £5m, Mertesacker cost £8m. Oops!
Walker cost £4m and until injury struck, was England's established 1st choice RB. At the age of 22. Or are you saying he wouldn't get into the Gooners 1st team?
As for Friedel, I'd say most Arse fans would rather have him at the club, on a free transfer, than Fabianski or Mannone...
And then there's "VDV possibly".
Possibly?
Possibly?
Have you been drinking? :o
Kyle Walker Englands established 1st choice right back has 2 caps - one as a 85th minute sub. Hardly established is he?
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 04, 2012, 03:10:27 PM
Kyle Walker Englands established 1st choice right back has 2 caps - one as a 85th minute sub. Hardly established is he?
Isn't even within an asses roar, he'll be 3rd choice behind Johnson and either Kelly or Micah Richards, seriously over rated player!
It gets funnier.
That delusion is off the scale.
Frimpong? The Wolves player from last year?
Parker v Wilshere. Don't make me laugh. Even Walcott. My ribs.
Defoe. My sides hurt now.
Vermaelen is Kaboul x205. Or Kolchelney.
Walker....ho ho ho.
VDV - an Arsenal squad player at best.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 04, 2012, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 04, 2012, 03:10:27 PM
Kyle Walker Englands established 1st choice right back has 2 caps - one as a 85th minute sub. Hardly established is he?
Isn't even within an asses roar, he'll be 3rd choice behind Johnson and either Kelly or Micah Richards, seriously over rated player!
Hodgson made it quite clear before the Euros that if fit, Walker would have been in. Which was why he specifically called up Jones ( i.e. versatile to play RB should Johnson get injured).
As for Walker's claims over Johnson, Kelly or Richards, remind me again which player was voted PFA Young Player of the Year for 2011-2012. And which player was voted in as RB in the PFA's Team of the Year? ::)
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
It gets funnier.
That delusion is off the scale.
Frimpong? The Wolves player from last year?
Sandro is Spurs' back-up Holding Midfielder. Is that not Frimpong's role with the Arse?
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
Parker v Wilshere. Don't make me laugh.
I wasn't comparing Parker with Wilshire, since they are two completely different players.
I would, however, point out that to get someone who was/is the 2011 Footballer of the Year, a regular England international and a member of the PFA 2011/12 Team of the Year for £5m is an undoubted bargain.
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
Even Walcott. My ribs.
Walcott - £10m flying winger from Soton - is a fine player. Bale - £7m flying winger from Soton - is even better, in fact
much better. Of course, HR didn't sign Bale, but there's no doubt he has been instrumental in helping him become the top class player he is today.
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
Defoe. My sides hurt now.
Like-with-like, remember? Defoe is a squad striker at Spurs i.e. only an occasional starter, more often an impact sub*. As such, his direct counterparts at the Arse are Chamouk, Bendtner or Gervino (take your pick).
Are you saying you wouldn't swap Defoe for any of those three?
* - EPL record goalscorer as a Substitute, btw
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
Vermaelen is Kaboul x205. Or Kolchelney.
I agree Vermaelen is a rather better player than Kaboul. But he's also your 1st choice CB, whereas outwith injury, YK was signed as Spurs' 3rd choice. (Also TV cost £10m/€12m, whereas YK cost £5m.)
I think a fairer comparison with Kaboul is Mertesacker - or £5m vs £10m...
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 03:22:43 PMWalker....ho ho ho.
KW is the best young RB in the EPL - see my reply to BrokenCrossbar, above.
And he cost £4m. If you can't accept that that was an absolute bargain (and we're discussing Harry's transfer record, after all), then you're more one-eyed than Arseache Whinger.
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 03:22:43 PMVDV - an Arsenal squad player at best.
Now I know you've been drinking...
The reason why all those players are inferior = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcj_00LQzBI
You can see the moment Redknapp realised he'd bought duds (and lost his job) around 5:46. The worst Arsenal team since 1995, Spuds something like 12 or 15 ahead and they blew it. The players weren't good enough. Bale - don't make me laugh. He marginally better than Walcott and that's just above average.
Oh my God. Evil Genius and Tony Fearon are both Spurs fans?
What strange bedfellows does soccer make.
To be fair Walker is a better right back than Johnston, Kelly and ,by virtue of the fact he gets more game time than Richards, should get on for england in front of Richards.
VDV would also walk onto that arsenal team.
Wilshire would be more comparable with Modric.
Apart from Bale and the above though most of the best of the rest would be arsenal.
There's no way I'd have Walker ahead of Sagna (who may become captain next season).
I like VDV but there's something bitty about him. Like Bale, I don't think he fancies the donkey work when not in possession. The likes of Rosicky pulled his socks up in that regard last season.
When Bale was a left back spurs took about a year and a half to win a game with him playing if I remember correctly so I suspect you're right about the donkey work but on the front foot he's a match for anyone.
I actually forgot about Sagna - I had Djouru in my mind who isn't really a top notch right back. Sagna is one of the best in europe but walker is, in my view, the best english right back.(as per any english player being the best there far from means you're the best in europe)
VDV, I think, could work on his attitude and his tackling a bit but there's no doubt he's quality.
The only spurs keeper of the last while comparable to arsenal ones is gomez mind. Wenger's failure to buy a decent keeper has, in my view, cost him probably two league titles.
That's a quality purchase by AVB already. Thon boy who was at Swansea for a while last year stood out.
There's a lot of rose-tinted glasses from both Arsenal and Spurs followers.
There's a much of a muchness between the teams, as the final points tally showed.
The only Arsenal player who definitely improves Spurs is the soon-to-be-gone RVP. Everyone else in their squad is either too erratic (even Vermaelen and Sagna) or just no improvement.
The only Spurs players who definitely improve Arsenal are Bale, VdV and the soon-to-be-gone Modric. If Modric goes, Wilshire becomes a definite improvement on what's an Spurs. I'd have Ekotto as the best left back, but he is erratic too.
Adebayor walks into either team, but doesn't actually play for either.
When Arsenal stuffed Spurs last season, it was one of those days when Arsenal's erratic players all hit form. Over the course of the season, very few of them hit those highs again apart from RVP, and latterly Koscielny.
For the season ahead, Walker, Sandro, Kaboul and Caulker could all end up making a clear case for their inclusion. I'm not sure Arsenal have so many, maybe Scezny, Koscielny and Ox.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 05, 2012, 01:39:56 PM
There's a lot of rose-tinted glasses from both Arsenal and Spurs followers.
There's a much of a muchness between the teams, as the final points tally showed.
The only Arsenal player who definitely improves Spurs is the soon-to-be-gone RVP. Everyone else in their squad is either too erratic (even Vermaelen and Sagna) or just no improvement.
The only Spurs players who definitely improve Arsenal are Bale, VdV and the soon-to-be-gone Modric. If Modric goes, Wilshire becomes a definite improvement on what's an Spurs. I'd have Ekotto as the best left back, but he is erratic too.
Adebayor walks into either team, but doesn't actually play for either.
When Arsenal stuffed Spurs last season, it was one of those days when Arsenal's erratic players all hit form. Over the course of the season, very few of them hit those highs again apart from RVP, and latterly Koscielny.
For the season ahead, Walker, Sandro, Kaboul and Caulker could all end up making a clear case for their inclusion. I'm not sure Arsenal have so many, maybe Scezny, Koscielny and Ox.
This "rose-tinted" fan would accept that as a reasonable enough summary, subject to two qualifications.
One, Vermaelen seems to me to be rather better than you allow and two, you simply cannot overlook Scotty Parker - by some way Spurs best player over the course of the whole season. Not only would he walk into the Arse, but I honestly believe he'd walk into any Prem team, bar City.
P.S. For O'Neill (and anyone else) who would dismiss Sandro, they might consider this:
http://www.standard.co.uk/olympics/olympics-sport/spurs-midfielder-sandro-named-in-brazil-olympic-football-squad-7918112.html
I think Vermaelen's goalscoring exploits helps mask the fact that he makes quite a few mistakes at the other end. I'd definitely have Koscielny above him.
As for Parker, brilliant energy, a proper leader. But he's no exceptional footballer. Either Sandro or Song provides a much better threat in the opposition half.
Quote from: thewobbler on July 06, 2012, 02:15:08 PM
I think Vermaelen's goalscoring exploits helps mask the fact that he makes quite a few mistakes at the other end. I'd definitely have Koscielny above him.
As for Parker, brilliant energy, a proper leader. But he's no exceptional footballer. Either Sandro or Song provides a much better threat in the opposition half.
Very true, every team needs one. I have a great time for Scott Parker, but plenty of other people who's opinion I'd value don't think much of him at all. I'm of the old school who loved the old blood and thunder approach, and I suppose it's hard to change your core values. That said, the way football has evolved so rapidly over the last 5 or so years I'm going to have to change my possibly blinkered appraisals of the modern footballer.
(http://www.theladbible.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_photo/public/16168_10151302277636696_654125782_n_0.jpg)
Back to the good old days.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20442906
A Tottenham Hotspur supporter has been seriously injured and several hurt in clashes with rival fans in Rome.
A bit disingenuous as the Spurs fans were in a bar when Lazio fans with Iron bars etc. and with there faces covered attacked them.
Three league wins in a row! With the corrupt empires at Woolwich Arsenal and Chelsea crumbling,we are on the cusp of reclaiming our inheritance as London's top club ;D
Well,4 points out of 6 this season from Man Ure,and it could and should have been 6 out of 6.Well on the way to becoming London's top club,and AVB doing a tremendous job after a shaky start.
Need a centre forward first Tony.
With AVB's system, Defoe's inability to pass and move means it's like playing with 10 men. Adebayor, for all his inability to score at present, at least gives the team a roundness.
Plenty of goals coming from out with the strikers.Lennon is lethal.IF we had a recognised striker in his prime (Berbativ 5 years ago) we'd be top of the league.
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Results today,and yesterday in the FA Cup,and indeed in this year's Carling Cup,largely prove that the English Premier League clubs generally no longer give a toss about the domestic knock out competitions.
Is that Merson reacting to someone setting a double whiskey in front of him,in the studio!
Quote from: T Fearon on January 27, 2013, 07:35:21 PM
Results today,and yesterday in the FA Cup,and indeed in this year's Carling Cup,largely prove that the English Premier League clubs generally no longer give a toss about the domestic knock out competitions.
Seriously doubt that. You telling me the likes of Norwich, Liverpool and spurs wouldnt love to win the FA cup.
Yes.Spurs priority is Champions League Place,Liverpool's is a high league table spot and Norwich just want to avoid relegation.FA Cup doesn't matter to the big clubs anymore.
The only top six side knocked out of the FA cup has been Tottenham and they were never likely to win it. Arsenal,Everton are good enough to finish ahead of them in the league.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 27, 2013, 10:17:33 PM
Yes.Spurs priority is Champions League Place,Liverpool's is a high league table spot and Norwich just want to avoid relegation.FA Cup doesn't matter to the big clubs anymore.
No excuse now then.
Only saw the briefest of highlights last night but (and I have to check this later) it seemed to me that one of the Spurs defenders was on his backside when a long ball was sent in and luckily Leeds missed it. Couldn't believe it tbh.
No matter how it is glossed up the Spurs faithful won't be too happy with the result. FA Cup means alot to them still despite not winning it in years.
Only ever lost the one cup final.
Means a lot to the average fan,but diddly squat to the Chairman,Board,Manager or Squad.The fact that there are only 8 premier teams left in the competition at the end of January shows how devalued this once great competition had become.
Early rounds of the FA cup was always designed for upsets. The last eight this year will be likely made up of six premier league teams.
You wouldn't say that if they were still in it tony.
The premier league holds more weight for relegation threatened and champions league challenging teams so they take more risks resting players but they would all love to win it.
In all seriousness,on current form,bar Messi,is there a better player than Gareth Bale anywhere on the planet?
Bale has speed, little else. He's a better version of Theo Walcott. Top teams would not go near him. His miss at the end showed how crap he would be.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 09, 2013, 11:40:30 PM
In all seriousness,on current form,bar Messi,is there a better player than Gareth Bale anywhere on the planet?
Troll.
Seriously,I am struggling to remember the last time I saw one player dominate a Premier league game the way Bale did yesterday.Shane,the miss at the end was due to fatigue (he must have covered every blade of grass St least three times) and his weaker right foot,which is just about the only flaw he has.
2nd has to be a realistic target now.
City are gone,Chelsea wobbling,though our lack of adequate back up strikers may well prove fatal.Even Bale cannot turn it on in every game like that.
What a strike for that equaliser!!!
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 14, 2013, 09:22:46 PM
What a strike for that equaliser!!!
unreal, i jumped out of my seat and i couldnt careless who wins !
very near another one there, a great solo run, and Bales wasnt bad either !
Umtiti is the name of the scorer and only 19years old.
Some good free kicks from Bale tonight great timing as well.
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2013, 09:56:28 PM
Some good free kicks from Bale tonight great timing as well.
gareth bale.....take a bow son. take a bow!!
Umtiti's goal is as good as any I have ever scored.
Anywhere I can see this goal?
Quote from: Jonah on February 15, 2013, 05:38:10 PM
Anywhere I can see this goal?
This one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uc67SHR6aA
Surely after tonight no one can argue that Bale isn't right up there with the likes of Ronaldo and Messi?
Bale is some pup. POTY wrapped up anyway.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2013, 09:56:17 PM
Surely after tonight no one can argue that Bale isn't right up there with the likes of Ronaldo and Messi?
He is a bit of class alright. Where will he be playing next season?
isnt POTY award decided in January? if so Bale could miss out.
Quote from: EC Unique on February 25, 2013, 10:12:45 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2013, 09:56:17 PM
Surely after tonight no one can argue that Bale isn't right up there with the likes of Ronaldo and Messi?
He is a bit of class alright. Where will he be playing next season?
Probably for Zenit, he will need really big ear warmers if he does go as it's freezing there :P but feck he can play a bit of ball
I'd say they will get at least 60 mil for Bale, maybe more, who know's maybe Roman will pony up the kesh and lure him to the bridge!
RVP will give him a run for his money for POTY.
If Bale doesn't win POTY by a mile,there's no justice.Head and shoulders the best player in EPL.
Ian Harte was good at free kicks too.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2013, 11:01:12 PM
If Bale doesn't win POTY by a mile,there's no justice.Head and shoulders the best player in EPL.
Bales advertises Head and Shoulders?
Bale's progress over the past number of seasons has been startling. He's rapidly become one of the most overrated players in the world. A freekick here, a mazy run there, an odd flashy goal from time to time. Equating him to Messi or even Ronaldo is like comparing Jackie Healy Rae to Abraham Lincoln. As Spurs most valuable asset, his future needs to be handled carefully. He should be sold this summer to Real for 50m +, (insert a buy-back clause if you can be bothered, and throw in Dafoe too), and reinvest the money in top class players for every line. When they realise in Madrid that they're getting a one-trick showpony, he'll be coming back to the EPL for half the money.
Quote from: stew on February 25, 2013, 10:22:55 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 25, 2013, 10:12:45 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2013, 09:56:17 PM
Surely after tonight no one can argue that Bale isn't right up there with the likes of Ronaldo and Messi?
He is a bit of class alright. Where will he be playing next season?
Probably for Zenit, he will need really big ear warmers if he does go as it's freezing there :P but feck he can play a bit of ball
I'd say they will get at least 60 mil for Bale, maybe more, who know's maybe Roman will pony up the kesh and lure him to the bridge!
Bale is good but they won't get 60M for him. Around 40 to 45 I'd say.
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2013, 11:57:04 PM
Bale's progress over the past number of seasons has been startling. He's rapidly become one of the most overrated players in the world. A freekick here, a mazy run there, an odd flashy goal from time to time. Equating him to Messi or even Ronaldo is like comparing Jackie Healy Rae to Abraham Lincoln. As Spurs most valuable asset, his future needs to be handled carefully. He should be sold this summer to Real for 50m +, (insert a buy-back clause if you can be bothered, and throw in Dafoe too), and reinvest the money in top class players for every line. When they realise in Madrid that they're getting a one-trick showpony, he'll be coming back to the EPL for half the money.
A one trick show pony?? You have high standards.
Quote from: Main Street on February 25, 2013, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2013, 11:01:12 PM
If Bale doesn't win POTY by a mile,there's no justice.Head and shoulders the best player in EPL.
Bales advertises Head and Shoulders?
I thought that was Joe Harte..
RVP has been the player of the year so far, with Mata coming in close second. As mentioned, these awards are usually decided in January so I can't see Bale getting it.
As for comparing him to Ronaldo and Messi, they are in a different league. Bales goal scoring return is not near good enough to be talked in the same sentence as these two.
From what I have seen/ read anyone who compares GB to Messi or Ronaldo does it mischievously to make the point that it is absurd to do so.
In fairness for a "one trick pony" he is hard to handle in the premiership.
Imvho Spurs thrive when both he and Lennon (not often enough)play as the space is always there when the defence doubles up on Bale.
If I remember correctly he was being slagged some years ago due to the fact that Spurs lost every game he started. Might be wrong in that though.
Seems a sound bloke by the way.
Don't think Spurs will get away with selling him. Fans would go nuts.
The reason why he is being compared to Messi/Ronaldo is that he is one of the few players in the world who has the potential to get close to that exalted pair.
He's not at their level, and in all likelihood won't get to their level, as they're two of the greatest players of all time.
Let's remember that before those pair took over football, the likes of George Weah, Ronaldo (fat), Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, and Baggio were feted as the best players in the world in turn. All brilliant players, but none of them scored 50 goals every season. Or even any season. The bar is considerably higher now.
It's just so rare to see a player who can shoot, pass, cross, and dribble with the best in the league, but can also run quicker than just about anyone in football - that the plaudits have to be understandable.
Always a good laugh this thread
Bale
2012/13 Barclays Premier League
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
24 15 1 112
Walcott
2012/13 Barclays Premier League
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
23 11 8 62
Nobody would call Walcott world class.
We really live in a world gone mad with hyperbola!!!!
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2013, 11:01:12 PM
If Bale doesn't win POTY by a mile,there's no justice.Head and shoulders the best player in EPL.
Since christmas, yes....isn't the POTY vote done in January though? I like the way he has copied Ronaldo's free kick style, monkey see monkey do as they say.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
Always a good laugh this thread
Bale
2012/13 Barclays Premier League
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
24 15 1 112
Walcott
2012/13 Barclays Premier League
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
23 11 8 62
Nobody would call Walcott world class.
We really live in a world gone mad with hyperbola!!!!
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/in-gifs-gareth-bales-8-sensational-spurs-goals-in-just-6-games/
Hyperbole, yes. But stats don't tell the full story, also yes.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
Always a good laugh this thread
Bale
2012/13 Barclays Premier League
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
24 15 1 112
Walcott
2012/13 Barclays Premier League
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
23 11 8 62
Nobody would call Walcott world class.
We really live in a world gone mad with hyperbola!!!!
1 assist is very poor for winger at this stage of the season.
Rio has spoken...
Quote
RIO FERDINAND has told those who reckon Gareth Bale is on the same level as Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi: You don't know what you're talking about.
Tottenham ace Bale is in the form of his life having scored eight goals in his last six games, including a match-winning double in the 3-2 win over West Ham on Monday.
The Welsh wizard is the frontrunner for the PFA Player of the Year, which players will start casting their votes for in the next few days.
But Manchester United star Ferdinand doesn't think Bale has reached the same heights as mega stars Ronaldo and Messi just yet.
The former England defender wrote on Twitter: "People mentioning Bale in the same breath as @Cristiano + Messi really don't know football! Bale been 1 of best 2 in PL this year but....
"He is not on CR7 + Messi's level yet...he carries on doing what he is doing for 2/3yrs then there can be a debate.
"Bale showed me a clean pair of heals once this year so I'm in good position to judge! CR7 + Messi have been on another planet for 4-5yrs #consistent #KeepItClean"
I can think of no other player , including the Portuguese ponce, who has single handedly won so many games as Bale has done this season.I certainly wouldnt swap him for Ronaldo, though he probably is some way short of Messi at the moment.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 27, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
I can think of no other player , including the Portuguese ponce, who has single handedly won so many games as Bale has done this season.I certainly wouldnt swap him for Ronaldo, though he probably is some way short of Messi at the moment.
Are you being serious?
Totally.Alright scoring goals against minor Spanidh teams.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 27, 2013, 10:45:28 PM
Totally.Alright scoring goals against minor Spanidh teams.
136 goals in 125 matches is a bit better than alright is it not?
Quote from: T Fearon on February 27, 2013, 10:45:28 PM
Totally.Alright scoring goals against minor Spanidh teams.
Like barca?
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 27, 2013, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 27, 2013, 10:45:28 PM
Totally.Alright scoring goals against minor Spanidh teams.
Like barca?
Ronaldo has scored a dozen goals against Barcelona.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 27, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
I can think of no other player , including the Portuguese ponce, who has single handedly won so many games as Bale has done this season.I certainly wouldnt swap him for Ronaldo, though he probably is some way short of Messi at the moment.
;D. Poor effort Tony. I expect better from you.
He's ok when surrounded by superstars,a luxury Bale doesn't enjoy at Spurs.He was anonymous for Portugal against N.Ireland,The sort of game Bale would dominate and win singlehandedly.That's why I wouldn't swap Bale for Ronaldo
Quote from: thewobbler on February 26, 2013, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
Always a good laugh this thread
Bale
2012/13 Barclays Premier League
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
24 15 1 112
Walcott
2012/13 Barclays Premier League
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
23 11 8 62
Nobody would call Walcott world class.
We really live in a world gone mad with hyperbola!!!!
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/in-gifs-gareth-bales-8-sensational-spurs-goals-in-just-6-games/
Hyperbole, yes. But stats don't tell the full story, also yes.
That link isn't working. Where are the 8 sensational goals?
It is unreal how some English journalist writes an over-hyped article on a player (Bale in this case) and it seems to become contagious with every other journalist spouting dung on the same topic. Bale has been playing well recently, but playing really well for a few weeks isn't going to win you player of the year or suddenly elevate you to best in the world. He isn't as good as Ronaldo and will never be anywhere near as good as Messi. I can't believe the hype around a fella who has scored 15 goals this season. Andy Cole must wish he had been playing now.
Some of us don't need journalists to tell us if a player is good or not. The big question is , if you slotted in Ronaldo or indeed Messi into the current Spurs side,in place of Bale, would they be as equally influential? In Ronaldo's case I believe not, and even Messi, unaided by the likes of Iniesta,Xaxi etc might struggle to reach Bale's current form in the Spurs side.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 28, 2013, 11:36:42 AM
Some of us don't need journalists to tell us if a player is good or not. The big question is , if you slotted in Ronaldo or indeed Messi into the current Spurs side,in place of Bale, would they be as equally influential? In Ronaldo's case I believe not, and even Messi, unaided by the likes of Iniesta,Xaxi etc might struggle to reach Bale's current form in the Spurs side.
Fixed that for you.
Tony, you really don't help things by being unable to by objective.
Ronaldo has scored 136 goals in 125 games for Madrid, and between there and United has won every honour in the game. That's not good, it's not great. It's completely and utterly extraordinary. He's also scored 38 in 103 for Portugal, despite being surrounded by some very average players.
Messi is probably the greatest player in the history of the game. 207 goals in 239 top flight club matches. Every honour won multiple times, and only 25 years old.
They don't just do "Bale's current form" occasionally, they've both been doing it for years, and years.
Quote from: thewobbler on February 28, 2013, 11:43:54 AM
Tony, you really don't help things by being unable to by objective.
Ronaldo has scored 136 goals in 125 games for Madrid, and between there and United has won every honour in the game. That's not good, it's not great. It's completely and utterly extraordinary. He's also scored 38 in 103 for Portugal, despite being surrounded by some very average players.
Messi is probably the greatest player in the history of the game. 207 goals in 239 top flight club matches. Every honour won multiple times, and only 25 years old.
They don't just do "Bale's current form" occasionally, they've both been doing it for years, and years.
Arguably.
Bale, as good as he is, has a lot of work to do before he can even be able to be mentioned in the same breath as Messi and/or Ronaldo.
Well he keeps on doing it! Today's win officially marks the return of Tottenham Hotspur to their rightful perch as Kings of N.London and ends the rot that started when we threw away the 1987 League Cup semi final to the bungmeister's Woolwich itinerants!
Have to say, today marks the end of The Gunners dominance over Spurs which has been there for yonks! Spurs will be playing Champions League football next season and attracting a better quality of player. The Gunners will be back to trying to hold onto players!
It can be traced all the way back to the 1987 League Cup Final,remember Clive Allen's wonder season.That's how long ago it was,when Spurs lost two late goals after practically having one foot in the final.AVB is turning out to be a genius
Quote from: T Fearon on March 03, 2013, 10:52:37 PM
AVB is turning out to be a genius
Genius is maybe taking it a bit far, but he is an excellent manager IMO and bringing him to Shite Hart Lane was one of the Levys best ever bit of business. How sick will Mr Abramovich feel if Chelsea don't qualify for the CL?
Bale! At this stage I'm running out of superlatives! Literally!
"Dungbuster". :o
Quote from: T Fearon on March 07, 2013, 09:21:22 PM
Bale! At this stage I'm running out of superlatives! Literally!
His diving is something else, bravo !
Good to see spurs taking a competition other than 'The Premiership' serious. Sick to death of teams putting out weaker teams in the League Cup, FA Cup or Europa League. Jez, they are all trophies to be won and Fans want to win these trophies. I know the glamour has gone out of the three named cups. But they are still trophies with finals and a day out for the fans.
One of the worst Inter Milan sides I've seen even worse than the one managed by Rafa.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 07, 2013, 09:21:22 PM
Bale! At this stage I'm running out of superlatives! Literally!
****?
Spurs in trouble.
2-0 down with 40mins still to play.
3-0
a one man team obviously !
Adebayor with an away goal
Through to the last 8! We don't do simple or straightforward!
Quote from: T Fearon on March 14, 2013, 09:03:40 PM
Through to the last 8! We don't do simple or straightforward!
Fell over the line there! Better than falling before the line! ;)
Great result. That's them finishing 6th now.
It's a really unfair rule, that away goal rule stands in extra-time. It's not like the Italians had the opporunity of playing one of the extra-time halves in White Heart Lane.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on March 14, 2013, 09:22:43 PM
It's a really unfair rule, that away goal rule stands in extra-time. It's not like the Italians had the opporunity of playing one of the extra-time halves in White Heart Lane.
It is. But playing at home in the 2nd leg of a two-legged tie has a clear statistical advantage, so this "unfairness" negates it somewhat.
Would make great TV though. Half time of ET Anneka Rice appears in a helicopter and take them to London. Great to see her arse again too.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on March 14, 2013, 09:22:43 PM
It's a really unfair rule, that away goal rule stands in extra-time. It's not like the Italians had the opporunity of playing one of the extra-time halves in White Heart Lane.
No, i think it's a fair rule. After all the away team are away, so thus it's an away goal.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 14, 2013, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on March 14, 2013, 09:22:43 PM
It's a really unfair rule, that away goal rule stands in extra-time. It's not like the Italians had the opporunity of playing one of the extra-time halves in White Heart Lane.
No, i think it's a fair rule. After all the away team are away, so thus it's an away goal.
Plus the away team had to play an extra half hour away from home.
FC Basle! As good as in the semi finals! ;D
Great to get back to Holland for a major final, the setting in 1974 of the UEFA Cup Final, one of the few finals ever lost by a Spurs team. Needs to be put right! ;)
The away goal rule should be done away with, very unfair.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 15, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
The away goal rule should be done away with, very unfair.
I think it is great up until the end of the ninety minutes in the second leg, at that point it is a distinct disadvantage to the team playing at home in the second leg.
Quote from: stew on March 15, 2013, 04:43:02 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 15, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
The away goal rule should be done away with, very unfair.
I think it is great up until the end of the ninety minutes in the second leg, at that point it is a distinct disadvantage to the team playing at home in the second leg.
The team playing at home has an extra 30 minutes at home, that is hardly fair on the away team?
Interesting that Berb's goal came from cocking up a chance.
Was the semi final draw for the Europa League made after the quarter final draw? Also, same question in relation the the CL too?
Yes.Both draws took place last Friday.
Quote from: ranch on March 18, 2013, 01:10:30 AM
Was the semi final draw for the Europa League made after the quarter final draw? Also, same question in relation the the CL too?
No and no. 12 April.
Quote from: tommysmith on March 15, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: stew on March 15, 2013, 04:43:02 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 15, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
The away goal rule should be done away with, very unfair.
I think it is great up until the end of the ninety minutes in the second leg, at that point it is a distinct disadvantage to the team playing at home in the second leg.
The team playing at home has an extra 30 minutes at home, that is hardly fair on the away team?
True but if the away team score the homers have to score twice to advance, and that after the actual game was tied at the end of two normal times.
Straight to penos is the only cure, at the end of 90 minutes in the second leg, if tied they take penalties straight away, that would be good tv.
The wheels are coming off, as usual.
Wheels back on! Crucial three points today in a very difficult away fixture.Keeps the Goons at bay and Chelsea continuing to implode!
7 points and the Semis from the next 5 games, that would be great.......did anyone hear AVB, Shouting "believe, believe" when we were getting destroyed in the last 5 minutes........ 8)
Hopefully put Basle to bed in the first leg this week.
Desperately disappointing tonight.So reminiscent of the home leg UEFA Cup Qtr Final against Seville in 2007 when the concession of two goals in quick succession proved fatal.Bale stretchered off doesn't look good either :'(
Spurs last 5 games, L,L,L,W,D and now with Bale out for a while they will be fairly impotent up front. The annual Spurs shit-the-load in full swing?
Crucial week,beginning with Everton at home today,an extremely difficult trip to Switzerland in mid week,followed by a trip to Chelsea next weekend.Now that is pressure,no matter what sort of money you're on.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 07, 2013, 12:11:50 PM
Crucial week,beginning with Everton at home today,an extremely difficult trip to Switzerland in mid week,followed by a trip to Chelsea next weekend.Now that is pressure,no matter what sort of money you're on.
Chelsea have cup semi next weekend.
2-2 in Basel and into injury time. Verrtongenhas been sent off
Great show.Squeeze through on penalties!
Keep er lit Spurs. Great stuff.
Good luck. Hope they do it. Im a fan of Friedel.
lol.
What a f**king giraffe!
Spurs havent won a penalty shoot out in 19 years.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 11, 2013, 10:48:25 PM
Spurs havent won a penalty shoot out in 19 years.
They haven't won much of anything in 19 years
Quote from: T Fearon on March 31, 2013, 04:27:08 PM
Hopefully put Basle to bed in the first leg this week.
8)
7 peno shootout defeats in a row! Makes Jimmy white look good! :)
Spuds really missed Gareth Basle. :D
Wasn't it last season that Basel knocked the crap out of Manchester Utd in the CL?
At least Spurs managed to get a draw in Switzerland.
:D
Quote from: Main Street on April 11, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
Wasn't it last season that Basel knocked the crap out of Manchester Utd in the CL?
At least Spurs managed to get a draw in Switzerland.
:D
3-3 draw in Old Trafford after United did their usual trick of f**king up after being 2-0 up in the first 20 minutes. 2-1 to Basle in Basle in what proved to be the night that ruined United's season. Would have won the league pulling up had Vidic not got injured badly that night just before half time.
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 11, 2013, 11:28:10 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 11, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
Wasn't it last season that Basel knocked the crap out of Manchester Utd in the CL?
At least Spurs managed to get a draw in Switzerland.
:D
3-3 draw in Old Trafford after United did their usual trick of f**king up after being 2-0 up in the first 20 minutes. 2-1 to Basle in Basle in what proved to be the night that ruined United's season. Would have won the league pulling up had Vidic not got injured badly that night just before half time.
I just remember Basel playing well in Manchester and hanging on (comfortably) in the mud in Basel.
The Swiss French view of the penalties
http://www.rts.ch/video/sport/football/4813420-retour-bale-tottenham-2-2-le-fc-bale-se-qualifie-lors-des-tirs-au-but-4-1.html
You can hear the excitement in the fella's voice at the end
A bit like a small county beating Kerry.
Spurs will always be synonymous with the glorious penalty shoot out win that secured the 1984 UEFA Cup win over Anderlecht.The record since then in shoot outs has been poor.
It must be well nigh impossible to succeed in a penalty shoot out away from home,particularly in Europe.The home fans are baying at each opposing penalty taker.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 12, 2013, 06:16:23 AM
Spurs will always be synonymous with the glorious penalty shoot out win that secured the 1984 UEFA Cup win over Anderlecht.The record since then in shoot outs has been poor.
It must be well nigh impossible to succeed in a penalty shoot out away from home,particularly in Europe.The home fans are baying at each opposing penalty taker.
A lot of those English players are overpaid, Tony. What is it now? 47 years of hope. Jules Rimet's
still gleaming.
Would McGeeney in his pomp have scored a penalty in to Hill 16 with Armagh 2 points down to the Dubs and 30 seconds left on the clock? Of course he would. The county would never forgive him ;)
Would Cluxton float it over the bar in the last kick of the biggest match of the year?
Given the unpredictable nature of sport,you cannot predict anything.For example you would have thought that Oisin Mc Conville would comfortably despatch a penalty just before the interval in an All Ireland Final.
Professional or amateur,it makes no difference.
Fair enough Tony. It happens in Gaa. But English teams like Spurs have a flakiness that money does not fix. Gaa teams who overcome perceived weaknesses are called hungry. Basel were hungry. Their manager Yakin is a fascinating character. Ethnic Turk and a real outsider in white Switzerland. But he is driven. I guess Adebayor isn't.
I suppose it all comes down to the ability to handle the pressure best,and arguably the stakes are even higher in top class professional sport,where careers and ability to make a living are often at stake.
Adebayor is flakiness personified.As I said earlier also the home team has a decided advantage in a penalty shoot out scenario.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 12, 2013, 09:26:25 AM
I suppose it all comes down to the ability to handle the pressure best,and arguably the stakes are even higher in top class professional sport,where careers and ability to make a living are often at stake.
Adebayor is flakiness personified.As I said earlier also the home team has a decided advantage in a penalty shoot out scenario.
But Tony, let's be fair, if Spurs have any real ambitions of doing anything they should be beating Basle out through the gate! It shows how one dimensional they are that without Bale they are toothless. There was no leadership on the field last night apart from Michael Dawson and as you saw Adebayor is as windy as they come. Vertongen let his team mates down badly with a very stupid and lazy tackle.
The reality is that Spurs might struggle to qualify for Europe this season. They won't get CL football. Arsenal and Chelsea will get the other 2 spots. The Blueshite are on a good run of form as well and have a game in hand over Spurs, win it and they are within catching distance of them. They have only won 4 out of their last 10 games and 1 out of the last 7. The one they won in the last 7 was against a Swansea team who are on the beach already, happy with their trophy(remember what that is?) and European qualification. Throw in the Bale injury and the inevitable dressing room fall out over the antelope penalty kick and you have a mess.
They're reporting that last night was the seventh consecutive penalty shoot-out loss by the Spuds - I don't think it's only Adebayor that's flakey.
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 12, 2013, 11:12:49 AM
They're reporting that last night was the seventh consecutive penalty shoot-out loss by the Spuds - I don't think it's only Adebayor that's flakey.
It's a small sample size, but there's no home/away pattern to Spurs's record in penalty shoot-outs. They tend to lose wherever they are (http://tottenham-spur.blogspot.ie/2011/09/tottenhams-penalty-shoot-out-record.html).
QuoteFiction: Starting a penalty shoot-out is an advantage (http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2009/12/16/fact-or-fiction-myths-in-football/)
A study into performance under pressure examined 95 penalty shootouts in the German FA Cup between 1986 and 2006. The results found "no grain of truth" in the idea that taking the first kick in a shoot-out held any advantage. Nor did home teams fare any better, statistically, than visitors. The researchers said: "It is particularly noteworthy that the relative frequency of the home team winning in a shoot-out, is, in fact, considerably smaller than the frequency of home teams winning in a match during the regular season... 'choking' could influence penalty conversion of home team players negatively."
'Myths and Facts about Football: The Economics and Psychology of the World's Greatest Sport', edited by Patric Andersson, Peter Ayton and Carsten Schmidt (Cambridge Scholars Publishing). Paperback £12.99; hardback £39.99. Available via www.c-s-p.org, at amazon.co.uk, or order in any bookshop (ISBN 9781847186225)
I laughed at Adebayor's run up - knew immediately then he was going to miss.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 12, 2013, 11:24:46 AM
I laughed at Adebayor's run up - knew immediately then he was going to miss.
He was very tláthúil in his reaction as well.
Very different to poor Schweini, the craythur, after the Cl final last year.-
This tie was lost last week in London.Notwithstanding the failure to sign a striker in January I still think AVB is the man for the job long term,and whether CL football materialises or not,hopefully he will get the chance to build his own team this summer.
Big win today
Was at Celtic game today.By all accounts Spurs were outstanding, and Chelsea dropped points too!
Quote from: T Fearon on April 21, 2013, 06:41:03 PM
Was at Celtic game today.By all accounts Spurs were outstanding, and Chelsea dropped points too!
Spurs were shite in half one, for 20 minutes in half two they were untouchable, that said Tone, the Spuds won the game on the line, AVB destroyed Mancini, (which is easy to do) Mancini will be gone at years end.
Half one and Half two? Is that what the yanks call it? ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on April 21, 2013, 06:41:03 PM
Was at Celtic game today.By all accounts Spurs were outstanding, and Chelsea dropped points too!
Shoot your source.
Spurs were shite for 82 of the 90 mins.
Interesting finish now. Spurs/Chelsea will be a humdinger.
It was a very good last 1/4 from Spurs, the move and finish for the equaliser was brilliant, perfection.
A good day at work for Villas-Boas.
For once I will be hoping Man Ure win this weekend, away at Arsenal. Good win yesterday for Spurs indeed and might just be the boost needed to see the team finish the season strongly and claim the Champions League place so cruelly snatched away last season.
Hail Hail, Gareth Bale. Well deserved double accolade last night, Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year, and managed to avoid bitemarks from Luis Suarez as well ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on April 29, 2013, 11:51:39 AM
Hail Hail, Gareth Bale. Well deserved double accolade last night, Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year, and managed to avoid bitemarks from Luis Suarez as well ;D
He got it by default, Saurez had it but the awarding body vetoed the decision, fact!!!
Not being biased, but Bale deserved it.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2013, 12:04:20 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 29, 2013, 11:51:39 AM
Hail Hail, Gareth Bale. Well deserved double accolade last night, Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year, and managed to avoid bitemarks from Luis Suarez as well ;D
He got it by default, Saurez had it but the awarding body vetoed the decision, fact!!!
One of Rafa's?
Quote from: EC Unique on April 29, 2013, 12:52:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2013, 12:04:20 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 29, 2013, 11:51:39 AM
Hail Hail, Gareth Bale. Well deserved double accolade last night, Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year, and managed to avoid bitemarks from Luis Suarez as well ;D
He got it by default, Saurez had it but the awarding body vetoed the decision, fact!!!
One of Rafa's?
;)
Great win at Stoke today.Surely a champions league place is deserved this year after the injustice of last year,and I have a sneaking suspicion that Arsenal will not take full points from their final two fixtures,and Spurs will send Di Canio into meltdown at the Lane next Sunday.
There is no official West Ham thread and as this story is half about Harry Redknapp I decided to put it here.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/sep/05/harry-redknapp-played-fan-west-ham?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/sep/05/harry-redknapp-played-fan-west-ham?CMP=twt_gu)
I remember watching a documentary about an amateur player/Liverpool fan who played a game for Liverpool. It was a benefit game at Anfield in front of a packed house and the cameras followed him in the preceding days as the liverpool stars led him through the training routines and practice games. He came on a sub in the 2nd half and didn't do anything too crazy. The ref awarded a penalty and he was told to take it, he blew his chance of ultimate glory though when he hit a tame shot. This could have been in the early 1980's.
Remember that myself.It was in Tommy Smith's testimonial game.
Quote from: T Fearon on September 05, 2013, 11:38:51 PM
Remember that myself.It was in Tommy Smith's testimonial game.
So long ago?
then it was from the era of the mustaches, before the era of the perms.
Disgrace from AVB keeping Hugo Loris on. Good blog here on it...
http://blogs.bmj.com/bjsm/2013/11/04/sorry-mr-villas-boas-concussion-call-always-belongs-to-doctor/
Bollix! Bert Trautmann played in an FA Cup Final with a broken neck, and lived into his 90s. Let the player decide.
Quote from: T Fearon on November 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Bollix! Bert Trautmann played in an FA Cup Final with a broken neck, and lived into his 90s. Let the player decide.
You don't fcuk around with brain injuries, end of story. Doctor makes the call, not the player or the manager.
Quote from: T Fearon on November 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Bollix! Bert Trautmann played in an FA Cup Final with a broken neck, and lived into his 90s. Let the player decide.
Spurs played Mido for months when he was clearly out of his mind.
AVB gone!
His press conference after the game suggested that he didn't bring in the players, that it was Baldini who brought the most of them in. In fairness they are performing below the level that they should be and it will be interesting to see who takes them on.
Take Harry Home. And the Dog.
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Come on back 'Arry, we miss you!
Quote from: EC Unique on December 16, 2013, 11:08:08 AM
AVB gone!
In fairness they looked awful clueless at times yesterday. Didn't seem to have any idea what each person's role was. Feel sorry for him though.
Liverpool were linked with most of the players Spurs bought in the Summer. Just as well they picked Spurs,good enough for them now!
Would Whiskey nose go to Spurs till end of season.
No sign of Fearon?
Quote from: laoislad on December 16, 2013, 11:34:01 AM
Liverpool were linked with most of the players Spurs bought in the Summer. Just as well they picked Spurs,good enough for them now!
Would Whiskey nose go to Spurs till end of season.No sign of Fearon?
I take it your joking?
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 16, 2013, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 16, 2013, 11:08:08 AM
AVB gone!
In fairness they looked awful clueless at times yesterday. Didn't seem to have any idea what each person's role was. Feel sorry for him though.
They are laying 7th in the league and sack the manager! The sport has gone mad..
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall at the meeting where he was sacked. On the face of it, it's harsh. They are still ahead of Man Utd and it is going to take time to integrate all those new players into the team. He's had only 16 games and standards are flat enough this season that a half-dozen of them would be viewed as a crap shoot beforehand. Spurs have a great chance of winning the Europa League and we all know what that is worth these days. On the other hand, he seemed to be stubbornly making the same mistakes - Michael Cox has a great article (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/15/tottenham-liverpool-tactical-analysis) on how he adopted the same tactics for the Liverpool game as he did for the Citeh game - and his petulance would have driven the most patient of chairmen to distraction. I'd have been tempted to fire him just for slagging off the fans (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tottenham-hotspur-1-hull-city-0-match-report-andre-villasboas-criticises-tense-atmosphere-at-white-hart-lane-after-lucky-win-8907502.html) after the Hull game.
Quote from: EC Unique on December 16, 2013, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 16, 2013, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 16, 2013, 11:08:08 AM
AVB gone!
In fairness they looked awful clueless at times yesterday. Didn't seem to have any idea what each person's role was. Feel sorry for him though.
They are laying 7th in the league and sack the manager! The sport has gone mad..
Yes. It does appear crazy. I knew looking at your man's face (Levy I think) there on Sunday that he was toast.
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 16, 2013, 12:15:10 PM
Yes. It does appear crazy. I knew looking at your man's face (Levy I think) there on Sunday that he was toast.
He'd make a terrible poker player.
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on November 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Bollix! Bert Trautmann played in an FA Cup Final with a broken neck, and lived into his 90s. Let the player decide.
You don't fcuk around with brain injuries, end of story. Doctor makes the call, not the player or the manager.
Reminds me of this.....
The wise words of former Partick Thistle manager John Lambie. George Shaw, one of Lambie's strikers, collided with an opposition player and was knocked out cold. When he came round the trainer said to the manager: "Boss he's got concussion, he doesn't know who he is." Lambie replied: "Tell him he's Pele and send him back on."
;D
Tottenham's big mistake was getting rid of Harry Redknapp - their most successful manager since Keith Burkinshaw.
Be interesting to see what Tony thinks? Spurs fans happy with sacking or not? I suppose it depends on who comes in next..
Quote from: EC Unique on December 16, 2013, 01:00:27 PM
Be interesting to see what Tony thinks? Spurs fans happy with sacking or not? I suppose it depends on who comes in next..
Exactly! They'll decide in May.
AVP very harshly treated imo. The culture of underachieving at the club just cannot be blamed on virtually every manager to pass through.
The amount of class players to come there and see their careers nosedive is beyond belief.
Villas Boas has clearly shown he doesn't have the personality or tactical knowledge to hack it in English football and is damaged goods now. You could argue he shouldn't take all the blame for Tottenham's signings failing to bed in this season but he agreed to the job under the conditions where somebody else would make the signings and you're automatically compromising yourself by agreeing to that.
His reputation was based pretty much entirely on one season in an uncompetitive league and a devalued European competition with Porto, where he inherited Hulk and Falcao. Also because Mourinho had won the UEFA Cup and Champions League with Porto, and because Villas Boas had worked with Mourinho, this notion grew that he was the new Mourinho, which didn't help him.
He could learn from his mistakes and go on to be a relative success with a smaller club in a weaker league than England but Tottenham were going nowhere under him. You cannot survive two 6-0 and 5-0 thumpings like that, especially at home, and it could have been 8 or 9 yesterday. He has shown that he can't organise a defence in big matches both with Chelsea and Tottenham. He jumped far too quickly from Porto, where he would have been better off learning his trade in the Champions League for another couple of seasons.
In fairness the 6-0 was away to Man City, who are racking up the goals altogether at home. Yesterday was an abomination as far as Spurs would be concerned, but I'd say the 3-0 defeat at home to West Ham might have actually been the death knell. They do look extremely ragged though, and it can't all be because of Bale leaving. It looks more like a club that bought too many lads, too soon, without any real grand plan of how to fit them in.
Quote from: Sidney on December 16, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
Tottenham's big mistake was getting rid of Harry Redknapp - their most successful manager since Keith Burkinshaw.
As a Spurs man for 30 years, once Redknapp whored himself out for the english job, he had to go.........as for AVB, he should have held fire until after Christmas..............Tim Sherwood, its like lord of the flies....madness..
I just don't know at this stage.Long for the glory days of NIcholson and Burkinshaw and even those two had their problems with the Spurs chairman of their days.Maybe it's time for a younger manager in the Rodgers mode, who I never rated before,but must admit is doing a first class job at Liverpool this season.Questions have to be asked of Levy himself,who appoints these managers in the first place.
I've a tenner on Eileen Drewery.
No.She's working with Arsenal,trying to help them avoid conceding 6 goals
Sherwood seems like a decent skin, how long before he starts whinging moaning like every other EPL manager.
Two wins in a row at Old Trafford,the second without Bale and with Webb fit to start for Man Ure! We are all Tims now,Celtic and Spurs fans together!
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World discovers an Arsenal player can actually count to two
Did Theo get a crack on the head and thought he was Churchill?
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Quote from: T Fearon on January 04, 2014, 10:44:18 PM
World discovers an Arsenal player can actually count to two
Hurting much?
He should've held up 52.
Quote from: All of a Sludden on January 04, 2014, 09:57:21 PM
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Maybe he was just predicting how many weeks he was going to be injured for.
Karma's a bitch!
Quote from: gawa316 on January 06, 2014, 10:48:52 PM
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Maybe he was just predicting how many weeks he was going to be injured for.
Karma's a bitch!
Aye Karma....you talk some tripe!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 06, 2014, 10:53:49 PM
Aye Karma....you talk some tripe!
Och now wee Walter there's no need to be like that
Quote from: gawa316 on January 06, 2014, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 06, 2014, 10:53:49 PM
Aye Karma....you talk some tripe!
Och now wee Walter there's no need to be like that
Pretty sad comment in fairness, something the 15 year olds put up on twitter.
Anyone who didn't think 'karma' when they heard of Walcott's injury has never heard of the concept of karma. It doesn't meant they thought he deserved it though.
People might have thought Karma but they would have been wrong surely as Karma is current actions deciding your fate in future existences, Walcott did his cruciate before he mocked the Spurs fans.
And anyone who believes in Karma certainly shouldn't be mocking Walcott either.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 07, 2014, 10:35:19 AM
People might have thought Karma but they would have been wrong surely as Karma is current actions deciding your fate in future existences, Walcott did his cruciate before he mocked the Spurs fans.
And anyone who believes in Karma certainly shouldn't be mocking Walcott either.
Walcott mocked the Spurs fans. He's perfectly entitled to do that, and the Spurs fans who threw things at him need shooting, but that's what he did. Then it comes to light that it was a serious injury. As my mother used to say, mocking is catching.
Quote from: deiseach on January 07, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 07, 2014, 10:35:19 AM
People might have thought Karma but they would have been wrong surely as Karma is current actions deciding your fate in future existences, Walcott did his cruciate before he mocked the Spurs fans.
And anyone who believes in Karma certainly shouldn't be mocking Walcott either.
Walcott mocked the Spurs fans. He's perfectly entitled to do that, and the Spurs fans who threw things at him need shooting, but that's what he did. Then it comes to light that it was a serious injury. As my mother used to say, mocking is catching.
Perhaps, personally I feel sorry for the lad, he can be quite divisive among Arsenal fans but to a miss a World Cup must be pretty gut wrenching for him.
The whole coin throwing/mocking was pure soap opera and even the Emmerdale writers couldn't have come up with a cruciate injury to top it off.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 07, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
Perhaps, personally I feel sorry for the lad, he can be quite divisive among Arsenal fans but to a miss a World Cup must be pretty gut wrenching for him.
The whole coin throwing/mocking was pure soap opera and even the Emmerdale writers couldn't have come up with a cruciate injury to top it off.
I feel sorry for the lad too, I wouldn't wish an injury on anyone. My wife will be devastated. And if there really was a link between his gesture and his injury I'd be horrified. It's precisely because there's no link that people will look at it with a sense of cosmic irony.
Quote from: deiseach on January 07, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
And if there really was a link between his gesture and his injury I'd be horrified.
wtf?
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2014, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: deiseach on January 07, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
And if there really was a link between his gesture and his injury I'd be horrified.
wtf?
It would be horrific if we lived in a world where some light-hearted joshing led to you getting an injury. It'd be the equivalent of some Greek myth where Zeus turns you into a monster because you're too beautiful. But we don't live in that kind of world. At least, I hope we don't.
In that case Thatcher would've died in a vat of acid in 1988.
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2014, 11:26:23 AM
In that case Thatcher would've died in a vat of acid in 1988.
Way to make me wish we did live in that kind of world.
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2014, 11:26:23 AM
In that case Thatcher would've died in a vat of acid in 1988.
Loooooooonnngggggg before 88.
https://www.facebook.com/tony.fearon.56#!/photo.php?fbid=10152217319666654&set=a.225494546653.170204.218264756653&type=1&theater
What Theo really mean't to say! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://t.co/o554WYHcty
Jermain Defoe's long-mooted move from Tottenham Hotspur to Toronto should be finalised shortly with the ambitious Major League Soccer club intending to unveil the England striker at a press conference on Monday.
The forward will become the most eye-catching of the Canadian club's pre-season signings, and is expected to sign a deal worth in excess of £90,000 a week, with Spurs to collect a fee of around £6m for a player who has 18 months to run on his contract. There remains the prospect of Defoe returning to White Hart Lane on loan until March before departing for the MLS, with Tottenham having initially hoped to retain his services until the end of their current campaign.
That compromise – Toronto's domestic season begins at Seattle on 15 March – would see a transfer first suggested in the autumn finally concluded, with Defoe to rejoin a former Tottenham team-mate, the Toronto head coach Ryan Nelsen, at his new club.
The former New Zealand international and Blackburn Rovers centre-half has described Defoe as "one of the most natural goalscorers I have ever come across" and suggested that bringing him to MLS would be "incredible" for Major League Soccer. His arrival would reflect the ambitions of the Ontario club overseen by Tim Leiweke, who brought David Beckham to Los Angeles Galaxy.
It remains to be seen how the move will affect Defoe's chances of making Roy Hodgson's England squad for the summer's World Cup finals in Brazil. The 31-year-old boasts 19 goals from his 55 caps and has been a regular squad member under the current regime, if not always utilised from the bench. He has suffered similar frustrations at Spurs having started only three Premier League games to date this term, his goalscoring exploits reserved for the Europa League and domestic cup competitions. Indeed, he has registered nine times in those competitions this term having scored 90 goals in the topflight for Spurs over two spells at the club.
His departure will prompt Tottenham to explore the addition of a striker to their ranks, though they may wait until the summer before aggressively entering the market. The club's unsettled Argentine winger Erik Lamela, who has also made just three league starts since his £30m move from Roma last summer, has been told he will not be allowed to leave White Hart Lane on loan this month and will remain at the club despite tentative interest from Italian clubs to return him to Serie A.
Gab Hurl will be delighted.
Happy St Totteringhams Day
Just the 19 years....
Sherwood gone.
Where?
Quote from: AQMP on May 13, 2014, 12:25:26 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 13, 2014, 12:23:42 PM
Where?
To the dole office
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The Final Salute!!!!!
Goodbye Timmy, he is more of a Littlewoods Catalogue man and not Topman!
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/9309898/premier-league-tottenham-confirm-departure-of-manager-tim-sherwood (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/9309898/premier-league-tottenham-confirm-departure-of-manager-tim-sherwood)
He won 1.91 points per PL match at Tottenham, the highest average of all Spurs managers in PL era.
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 13, 2014, 12:42:05 PM
He won 1.91 points per PL match at Tottenham, the highest average of all Spurs managers in PL era.
Madness. Is he just not 'fashionable' enough?
Quote from: EC Unique on May 13, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 13, 2014, 12:42:05 PM
He won 1.91 points per PL match at Tottenham, the highest average of all Spurs managers in PL era.
Madness. Is he just not 'fashionable' enough?
Its Tottenham, its what their supporters demand.
It's not madness at all. PPG is not a marker, as it's dependent on the quality of the league around you, and finishing 6th is not an accomplishment.
Spurs assembled a squad that should comfortably finish in the top 6 without a manager. Their second XI would finish comfortably mid-table.
He continued with AVB's high line when the players weren't there to play it, talked about 4-4-2 but always sent out inverted wingers, talked about a lack of passion and versatility, yet sent Holtby out on loan. Made a song and dance about youth, when in fact all he did was play Bentaleb out of position, while relegating Townsend to a bit part role.
As such, all Sherwood really has done since coming onboard is annoy fans and alienate players with his bizarre selection policies. And what Moyesy has proven, more than anything, this year is that if the players don't want you, then there's only one way out.
It was strange enough sending Holtby on loan for sure. He brought Adebayor back into the team who was frozen out of the side under AVB, and he was a revelation in the final few months of the season. I thought they should have kept hold of Defoe too, frozen out as well and moved to Canada playing for Toronto.
He had a bit of a attidude and a lot didn't like him, but his win ratio was good. Probaly ineviable that he was going to be shown the door at the end of the season, as Levy was always going to look for a bigger name in the summer, De Boer probaly will get it.
Would like to see Rafa get this project.
Anyone for Moyes?
Don't see either being in the running. If Spurs just wanted to stay exactly where they are, Moyes would be the man for the job. He doesn't have the personality or man management skills to make big time charlies play to their ability. Benitez is obviously a proven trophy winner, but with the stadium extension in the pipeline, Levy probably can't alienate Spurs supporters by appointing a chessboard manager.
So Spurs will probably do what they always do, and appoint someone who looks right but isn't right. De Boer is made for the job!
I think Spurs fans should be able to expect better than a manager who claimed that his remit was not to finish in the top four but to "try to score a few more goals (http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-05-11/tim-sherwood-in-the-dark-over-spurs-future-but-sheds-no-tears/)". Absolute nonsense, and if he had said that was his target at the time he'd have never gotten the job.
On the other hand, if this discussion board is to be believed Spurs fans want someone who is much better than Brendan Rodgers. As you were.
Edit: h/t to Football365 (http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9310110/Sherwood-Was-Always-Levy-s-Free-Shot...) for highlighting how Tiger Tim revised his target downwards as the season progressed.
Quote"If the season was to end tomorrow the chairman wouldn't be too happy because we're fifth. The final league position has to meet the expectations of the club otherwise it's 'Goodbye Charlie'. The club need to finish in fourth place. Anything other than that is going to be a disappointment" - Tim Sherwood, January 19.
Sherwood was quite chipper when he made that admission - his Tottenham side were level on points with fourth-placed Liverpool, having won five of his first six Premier League games. He was The Timinator (thanks to The Sun) and he was proving that all that bumph about false 9s and midfield pivots quivered in fear at the feet of simply 'wanting it more'. When fourth place was a distinct possibility, Sherwood was happy to admit that he would pay with his job if he failed in his remit.
Three months later - with Tottenham crucially now seven points off fourth-placed Arsenal - Sherwood was backtracking, saying: "It was never the brief when I came into the club that we had to finish in fourth place. What was said to me was 'can we make the team a little bit more attractive and score more goals?' and I think I've ticked that box."
Tony must have forgotten his password! What a club Spurs are! ;D ;D
Spurs are a club who recognise failure and react quickly,unlike certain other trophyless clubs who congratulate themselves on a brilliant season in spite of throwing away a league title that was theirs for the taking.
Harry Redknapp's reign gave a hint of the potential at White Hart Lane ( ie a club that challenges seriously and consistently for a Champions League place). Sadly Sherwood was never going to be a long term option (though would be a decent option for the likes of WBA) and I suspect he knew he wouldn't last beyond the end of the season from the day he took over from AVB
Quote from: T Fearon on May 13, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
Spurs are a club who recognise failure and react quickly
They've plenty of experience in failure to be fair so they should know a thing or two about it at this stage in fairness.
With one trophy in 15 years it's a policy that seems to be working well
You have to admire them for reacting and trying,and not deluding themselves that people sacked by Reading are the right long term answer.
How much more successful would Spurs have been if they could have held on to the likes of Modric and Bale,and in previous years,Berbatov and Sheringham?
Quote from: T Fearon on May 13, 2014, 11:03:36 PM
You have to admire them for reacting and trying,and not deluding themselves that people sacked by Reading are the right long term answer.
How much more successful would Spurs have been if they could have held on to the likes of Modric and Bale,and in previous years,Berbatov and Sheringham?
If they weren't the small time club they are maybe those players would have stayed.
Wait and see if horse teeth is with Liverpool in August.When Real Madrid come calling with big money not even Man Ure can turn it down.
In the meantime I wouldn't let the likes of Rodgers near the Spurs job
Quote from: T Fearon on May 13, 2014, 11:22:17 PM
Wait and see if horse teeth is with Liverpool in August.When Real Madrid come calling with big money not even Man Ure can turn it down.
In the meantime I wouldn't let the likes of Rodgers near the Spurs job
When anyone calls Spurs with big money they never turn it down. :)
;D ;D ;D
Those clowns at Totteringham really are comedy gold! I see they're even picking managers from the stand such is their desperation!
;D ;D ;D
Maybe if Rodgers had called somebody down from the stands when Loserpool were leading Palace three nil,he might have had the savvy to tell the lads to shut up shop! ;D
Have to say I liked Sherwood............ he certainly said things imo that had to be said and for that Spurs should be grateful.
If (a big IF I know) this fairplay palaver is rightly policed I would like to think that tightly run clubs like Spurs,Arsenal, Villa, Everton etc with a big support base can start winning again.
Tony will never get over Brendan telling Spurs to shove their job. Must kill him to see Liverpool on top and Brendan with MOTY. Not bad for a Reading reject. Thank you Reading!
I would possibly pee my panties if Moyse got the Spurs job.
The previous 4 season Spurs finished above Liverpool, congratulations on one good season albeit with no Silverwear.
Liverpool progress while Spurs regress. Simple. They aren't even "also rans"
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 14, 2014, 10:35:22 AM
The previous 4 season Spurs finished above Liverpool, congratulations on one good season albeit with no Silverwear.
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 14, 2014, 10:41:21 AM
Liverpool progress while Spurs regress. Simple. They aren't even "also rans"
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 14, 2014, 10:35:22 AM
The previous 4 season Spurs finished above Liverpool, congratulations on one good season albeit with no Silverwear.
Was just pointing out history of past few seasons, you know because Liverpool fans love history and all. One swallow doesn't make a summer.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 14, 2014, 10:35:22 AM
The previous 4 season Spurs finished above Liverpool, congratulations on one good season albeit with no Silverwear.
That's one good season that, in terms of league position, beats anything Spurs have managed in fifty years. As for silverwear, we're not going to the disco.
Mauricio Pochettino named Tottenham head coach on five-year contract after resigning from Southampton post
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 27, 2014, 05:57:47 PM
Mauricio Pochettino named Tottenham head coach on five-year contract after resigning from Southampton post
He's just been sacked....
Tweet from Gary Lineker........ "Mauricio Pochettino is the new manager of Spurs. Needed to get that tweet out quickly before they fire him."
Two wins no goals conceded, top of the league!
+1 :)
8)
Heading over on Sept 20th for West Brom game,with Ex Celt Georgios Samaras now of WBA an added bonus! Saw him score at the Lane for Man City back in 06, hopefully he won't repeat that!
Glad to have the Spurs fans back. 3 months and not a peep out of them ;)
Quote from: Joe Blob on August 25, 2014, 01:01:45 PM
Glad to have the Spurs fans back. 3 months and not a peep out of them ;)
Gone quiet again...
Seriously would Pochettino get a look in at any other a Premiership top ten club? Tottenham missed out when Martinez was overlooked
Neil Lennon is ten times the manager Pochettino will ever be,taking a team into last 16 of Champions League against all odds
Quote from: dec on October 02, 2014, 10:48:15 PM
Neil Lennon is ten times the manager Pochettino will ever be,taking a team into last 16 of Champions League against all odds
:D :D
That was some goal by Lamela
http://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com/2014/10/23/7051679/erik-lamela-rabona-goal-asteras-tripoli-uefa-europa-league
Outrageous piece of skill. Brilliant.
You'll see loads of lads tripping themselves up trying to emulate that in the next few weeks!
First vine I seen on twitter last night, was a poor angle and couldn't see what he did. I was wondering what the fuss was about.
When you see it though...Wow. Brillant piece of skill.
Danny Higginbotham's tweet this morning was class. Said he tried it once and done his medial ligaments, followed by know your strengths - head it and kick it far!
Best piece of skill since Hoddle against Watford.
Once again another familiar tale evolving,losing at home to crap teams and no progress being made whatsoever
Quote from: T Fearon on October 26, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
Once again another familiar tale evolving,losing at home to crap teams and no progress being made whatsoever
The sense of resignation of the inevitable has happened particularly early this year.
Like Liverpool we've wasted a pile of money,received from a Spanish club for one superstar,on a bunch of overpriced mediocrities like Soldado.
Is Harry Kane the new Gareth Bale? ;D
All of a sudden the season's not looking too bad,good progress in Europa and League Cup (or whatever the hell it's called now) and three points off a top four place! ;D
Asides the face that Kane is English, Bale is Welsh, Kane is a striker, Bale is largely a winger, Kane is slow, Bale is electric then yeah Kane is the new Bale.
Quote from: T Fearon on October 26, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
Once again another familiar tale evolving,losing at home to crap teams and no progress being made whatsoever
Can anyone really explain how the Southampton talent pillage that led to Liverpool and Spurs demise also triggered the Saints stellar ascent??
Good win today,which places us only 4 points off a Champions league spot.Going well in League Cup and Europa league,if only we could iron out poor home form it could yet be a great season.
Another good win today against traditionally difficult opponents,and no pitch invasions either.Looking promising now after a shaky start
Coasting into league cup semi finals,Wembley beckons with only Sheffield Utd in our way ;D
Harry Kane in great form at the moment.
He'll be as big as Bale when he grows up!
Quote from: T Fearon on December 18, 2014, 06:57:06 PM
He'll be as big as Bale when he grows up!
RM have their replacement for Benzema sorted then!
Kane does it again! Shaping up to be an interesting second half of the season,still involved in three cup competitions and in serious contention for a Champions league spot if the right signings are made in January,either via the Europa league win route or a top four finish in the league
What a win! Best New Years Day since 4-1 against Man Ure in 1996.Has anyone in a Spurs shirt made such a sensational impact as young Kane since Hoddle with a wonder goal against Stoke in February 1976?
Roy Hodgson will no doubt be keeping a very tight eye on Kane. Must be a serious contender for the England squad.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 01, 2015, 07:50:33 PM
What a win! Best New Years Day since 4-1 against Man Ure in 1996.Has anyone in a Spurs shirt made such a sensational impact as young Kane since Hoddle with a wonder goal against Stoke in February 1976?
Ardilles, Bale, Klinnsman, - a few yes. Could name a few more too
I am talking about a young relatively unknown player who came up through the underage teams to make such an impact in his first season
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 01, 2015, 07:59:53 PM
Roy Hodgson will no doubt be keeping a very tight eye on Kane. Must be a serious contender for the England squad.
Has he got an Northern Irish Great Grandmother?
Fair play to Spurs, sensational performance.
Harry Kane again! He's one of our own!
Quote from: T Fearon on January 10, 2015, 06:42:48 PM
Harry Kane again! He's one of our own!
You sure?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/harry-kane-makes-arsenal-fans-4947131
Good win tonight,retrieving a two goal deficit into the bargain.Losing successive games to Palace and Burnley wouldn't have been good.Still involved in four competitions do we run the risk of fatigue thus jeopardising the top four spot that is rightly ours?
;D
Some free kick by Eriksen.Looking good for Wembley now!
We never do it the simple straightforward way! ;D
Eriksen is probably too good to stay at Spurs, a la Berbatov, Bale etc.
Real or PSG or some other moneybags will probably buy him
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2015, 10:01:12 AM
Eriksen is probably too good to stay at Spurs, a la Berbatov, Bale etc.
Real or PSG or some other moneybags will probably buy him
Probably the sort of player United should go after?
Enormous win today.Scoring three goals against a Tony Pulis side is no mean feat.6 premiership wins out of the last eight is impressive
Harold Kane signs new long term contract and Dele Alli opts for Spurs instead of Liverpool!
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2015, 07:48:21 PM
Harold Kane signs new long term contract and Dele Alli opts for Spurs instead of Liverpool!
He'll be over the road soon enough!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B824tfJIQAAbvu4.jpg:large)
Useless cnuts.
Good win tonight against difficult opponents,keeps us in the frame for a Champions league spot
Interesting video of Kyle Walker filming his girlfriend and a dog doing the rounds on Twitter this morning. NSFW.
Quote from: Agent Orange on April 25, 2015, 11:39:22 AM
Interesting video of Kyle Walker filming his girlfriend and a dog doing the rounds on Twitter this morning. NSFW.
Not Kyle Walkers girlfriend or dog by the looks of it
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Quote from: Agent Orange on April 25, 2015, 11:39:22 AM
Interesting video of Kyle Walker filming his girlfriend and a dog doing the rounds on Twitter this morning. NSFW.
Not Kyle Walkers girlfriend or dog by the looks of it
As Abraham Lincoln always said, don't believe all you read on twitter.
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Quote from: Agent Orange on April 25, 2015, 11:39:22 AM
Interesting video of Kyle Walker filming his girlfriend and a dog doing the rounds on Twitter this morning. NSFW.
Not Kyle Walkers girlfriend or dog by the looks of it
It certainly is a bit of ruff work!!! Whether or not it's his girlfriend Fido is definitely a girl's best friend!!
Is Saint Totteringhams day late this year?
Great to claim 5th spot and the £20m that goes with it.Means we don't have to play the early rounds of Europa League next season.I reckon this competition should be taken more seriously with a Champions League place at stake for the winners.Only seven points away from a Champions League place and with Pochittino able to bring in his own signings this summer things look promising.
yer just a shame those seven points should have been picked up easily but hey it wouldnt be spurs if we made life easy lol
Great week long celebrations by the club,on all its media outlets,and on local TV, for Pat Jennings 70th Birthday last Friday.Pity his home town of Newry did nothing to mark it.
Good win today against difficult opposition in the aftermath of an Europa League tie.Liking this new partnership between Dell Alli and Son,and the series of clean sheets.If only Harry can discover his goalscoring form or another proven striker is acquired this could be a good season indeed.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 04, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
Good win tonight against difficult opponents,keeps us in the frame for a Champions league spot
first home win. WOW
Is Kane turning out to be a one season wonder?
Seafoid,we are unbeaten at home this season ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on September 21, 2015, 11:31:55 PM
Seafoid,we are unbeaten at home this season ;D
Not anymore.
Sad to see Arsenal scum wrecking White Hart Lane tonight and chanting about the Holocaust :(
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Quote from: T Fearon on September 21, 2015, 11:31:55 PM
Seafoid,we are unbeaten at home this season ;D
Not anymore.
Does Tony only sing when they are winning?
He would have started 3 new threads by now if they had beaten Arsenal tonight.
If we can hold on to these three points we're right back in the title race!
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If we can hold on to these three points we're right back in the title race!
Spoken with the lack of self worth you'd expect from any Spurs fan. Despite a 3 goal lead at home Tony is still haunted by United's legendary 5 goal comeback at WHL to send the Spurs fans and players off seeking counselling for the next decade! Even now he still hedges his bets when the Spuds are 3 up!! ;D
Er it was the loss of a two goal lead to Stoke a few weeks ago that scared me
Spurs and Harry rattling the goals in today👍😀👍😀👍😫👍👍😫😃😃
Another routine win tonight,with the three points wrapped up at half time.Really encouraged with the consistency and particularly an ever tight defence.Only 5 points behind the leaders and only beaten once in the league this year
Phew that was close.Invested at 11/8 Harry to score and Spurs win...had to wait until 93rd minute
Another great win tonight!
Another imperious performance today! Moving like a juggernaut,and will be nice to hammer Chelski next weekend and move onwards to become the highest finishing London club in Premiership this season!
should be a great game next weekend. Looking forward to it. Chelsea will need to find their touch in front of goal. Alli will be a big miss for spurs.
spurs serious title contenders??? on their day i think they're a match for anybody but they're maybe lacking abit of strength in depth upfront if anything happened to harry kane.
Amazing run,undefeated in the league since the opening day,and defence looking tight and non error prone.Its an average league,and if a top class striker can be got in January,who knows.Will be extremely disappointed if Spurs don't finish in the top four,and definitely can aim to be the highest placed London club this season
Pochettino has been a God send to the English national team. Off the top of my head, Clyne, Chambers, Shaw, Lallana, Alli, Mason, Kane and Rodriguez have all developed into internationals under him. He seems like a serious operator - pity he'll probably go to Madrid next season.
Have to hand it to Spurs. Some run and Kane only finding form now. He's already hot on Vardy's trail.
After exactly 20 seasons of finishing behind Arsenal, this really could be their year.
.......After exactly 20 seasons of finishing behind Arsenal, this really could be their year......to make it 21 years!
Two games without a win and T.Fearon goes missing....
No saying much about Poor Neil Lennon either these days.
We remain unbeaten in the league since the opening day reverse,and while the last two results are a trifle disappointing given our recent magnificent form,a point from Chelsea at home and WBA away is by no means bad.
I will have plenty to crow about for the rest of this season ;D
In fairness the amount of draws they've had have been the Spuds downfall this season. But I suppose Draws away to WBA, Arsenal, Swansea,Leicester and draws at home to Chelski, Liverpool, Everton, Stoke can't be frowned on!
Tomorrow we should enter the top four for the first time this season,then who knows! Could be a mementous 2016,
Some run. Spurs possibly on the verge of emulating Brazil '70.
The spuds will find a way to screw things up, it's what they do, the funniest screw up was dodgy lasagnagagate in the run up to a big game, it could only happen to those pesky Spud players.
As pleasing as the 14 match unbeaten league run is,even more pleasing is the positive 13 goals difference. In previous seasons this would invariably have been a negative figure,even in the Golden "Balean" era.
It shows what a magnificent job Pochettino has done,reconstructing a notoriously brittle defence,overseeing the meteoric rise of Harry Kane,and if we can add a proven goal scoring striker during the forthcoming transfer window,54 years of hurt may come to an end this season.
Quote from: T Fearon on December 12, 2015, 10:07:28 PM
Tomorrow we should enter the top four for the first time this season,then who knows! Could be a mementous 2016,
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Quote from: T Fearon on December 12, 2015, 10:07:28 PM
Tomorrow we should enter the top four for the first time this season,then who knows! Could be a mementous 2016,
;D
I suppose Tony will be AWOL for a bit now.
Another super win tonight,to stay in contention for three major trophies! It's like the early 80s again!
Another super win today,now five points clear of Manchester Utd,who are in fifth spot,and title challenge still on
Quote from: T Fearon on January 23, 2016, 05:25:30 PM
Another super win today,now five points clear of Manchester Utd,who are in fifth spot,and title challenge still on
Spuds won't win the league ffs cop on to yourself.
Quote from: annapr on January 23, 2016, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 23, 2016, 05:25:30 PM
Another super win today,now five points clear of Manchester Utd,who are in fifth spot,and title challenge still on
Spuds won't win the league ffs cop on to yourself.
why not? they're only 2 points behind arsenal and city. i think they've every chance, need to keep kane fit though.
Alli is some player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFK6smUTAg
Some of the pundits on MOTD were creaming themselves about the upcoming euros with all the great Spurs members of the England squad.
The great pressure cooker of media hype starts early.
Great results for us with City only drawing and Arsenal losing to the chavs today👍👍👍
Another outstanding win tonight,3 nil away at Norwich ,and Arsenal's flop at home to Southampton puts Spurs up to third in the league!👍👍👍👍😅
Another three points today to put us up to second place in the table and a glorious opportunity to put further daylight between ourselves and Man City when we meet them next Sunday
It is a very unpredictable season
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/feb/08/tottenham-title-premier-league-leicester-city
A team sitting in second place is under the radar?
To win the premiership a team has to finish above 19 others. Since 1995 Spurs haven't finished above the 1 team that matters to them.
They will ignore the team currently above them (leicester City) and worry about their neighbours, to the point of making themselves sick.
It has happened before on the last day of the season (I remember they said it was food poisoning at the time) but you cannot disguise Spurs fear of Arsenal, and it will ultimately be their undoing this season again.
Good six minute blitz to see of Man Utd today,under pressure.Desperately need Leicester to lose one game and wobble soon,preferably at home to West Ham next weekend
West Ham could beat Leicester
Definitely. Think it has the look of a draw about it tho.
Think there might be a twist left in the race. Spurs better goal difference a help. Really need Leicester to lose next weekend to have a chance. Even a draw for them imo secures it.
West ham are a good team. I could maybe see them beating Leicester. If Rodwell wasn't such a chump then sunderland would have drew yesterday.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 11, 2016, 09:32:01 AM
Definitely. Think it has the look of a draw about it tho.
Could do. That could bring it down to 5 with 4 matches left
I think Tottennham have the right spirit . Thumping Man U 3 nil was impressive
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 11, 2016, 09:53:25 AM
West ham are a good team. I could maybe see them beating Leicester. If Rodwell wasn't such a chump then sunderland would have drew yesterday.
Maybe so but we'd still need them to drop another four points in the remaining four games. United could well do them at OT but the remaining three games are against teams with little to play for, Swansea (pretty much safe), Everton (mid table nothingness, possibly a cup final to prepare for) and Chelsea (final day, they won't be too pushed, and besides they'd be doing nothing to help the title stay in London, think OT 1999). Win those and it's theirs. That's before you look at Tottenham's remaining games - Stoke away (tricky but doable), WBA home (likely win), Chelsea away (our inglorious record at the Bridge to overcome), Southampton home (same as Stoke) and Newcastle away (could be still fighting the drop by then). Credit to Leicester they've kept eking out the wins and are nearly there, but Poch and co have been superb this season, too many draws in that unbeaten run early on, but since the Newcastle loss they've kicked on and it seems will fall just short. More to come from them hopefully.
It looks as if Leicester will hang on alright, but I think Spurs are the best team in the league, at the moment. The manager has done a great job. Only for Fearon, I'd nearly hope they win it.
We are not out of it yet, pressure is a funny thing.
Tonight Man City became the latest English club to reach the European Cup/Champions league semi final.A full 54 years after the first English club to do so,Spurs!
Another super win tonight.All we need is for Leicester to draw and lose two of their remaining fixtures.Have a feeling this is going to happen!
Spurs looking very strong at just the right time, they are the best team in the division but not sure they will catch Leicester
Before this weekend Leicester's last 5 was 5 wins and Tottenham's was 3 wins 2 draws
Now it's 4 wins one draw each
The Grauniad was talking about Leicester perhaps being 10 points ahead this evening
Sublime stuff tonight, 4-0 and it really could have been more, the work rate of this team is immense. Big win to put increased pressure on Leicester, if they fail to beat Swansea at the weekend then the title race is open. Just have to keep on winning and see what they do.
Tottenham have scored more and conceded less than Leicester who have been grinding out one nils
Alas the title has now gone and a wonderful season will not be adorned by silverware.But surely the future is bright
Quote from: T Fearon on April 26, 2016, 08:12:00 AM
Alas the title has now gone and a wonderful season will not be adorned by silverware.But surely the future is bright
I am sure Liverpool thought the same 2 years ago, the vultures will be swooping soon.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 26, 2016, 08:12:00 AM
Alas the title has now gone and a wonderful season will not be adorned by silverware.But surely the future is bright
I am sure Liverpool thought the same 2 years ago, the vultures will be swooping soon.
In fairness we think the same at the end of every season..
Next year.....
I wonder who will be sold
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
Man united don't have the clout they had under fergie. I think if any good spurs player left there for united it'd be a step backwards. (unless Pochitino(spelling) leaves in which case I could see a few leaving)
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
For €60 million? Not a chance, you would have to go close to breaking a world record to get him.
I'm pretty sure anyway him and Alli or anyone that might attract a megabucks offer will stay at least another year and play in the Champions League for Spurs..
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Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
For €60 million? Not a chance, you would have to go close to breaking a world record to get him.
I'm pretty sure anyway him and Alli or anyone that might attract a megabucks offer will stay at least another year and play in the Champions League for Spurs..
Man United are still Man United, biggest club in England, top 4 in the World.
Spurs have a stadium to pay for £100m for Arry and Alli would go a long way towards helping to pay for that.
Man United have a history of buying the best available British talent, it's always being part of their model. Spurs have always being a selling club.
For the player it will always come down to money, 200K a week at Man United or 100K a week at Spurs. What player has ever turned down the money?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
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Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
For €60 million? Not a chance, you would have to go close to breaking a world record to get him.
I'm pretty sure anyway him and Alli or anyone that might attract a megabucks offer will stay at least another year and play in the Champions League for Spurs..
Man United are still Man United, biggest club in England, top 4 in the World.
Spurs have a stadium to pay for £100m for Arry and Alli would go a long way towards helping to pay for that.
Man United have a history of buying the best available British talent, it's always being part of their model. Spurs have always being a selling club.
For the player it will always come down to money, 200K a week at Man United or 100K a week at Spurs. What player has ever turned down the money?
Nail on the head Dinny. All comes down to money. Spurs will be lucky if they get another season out of those mentioned!
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Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
For €60 million? Not a chance, you would have to go close to breaking a world record to get him.
I'm pretty sure anyway him and Alli or anyone that might attract a megabucks offer will stay at least another year and play in the Champions League for Spurs..
Man United are still Man United, biggest club in England, top 4 in the World.
Spurs have a stadium to pay for £100m for Arry and Alli would go a long way towards helping to pay for that.
Man United have a history of buying the best available British talent, it's always being part of their model. Spurs have always being a selling club.
For the player it will always come down to money, 200K a week at Man United or 100K a week at Spurs. What player has ever turned down the money?
Shearer
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 26, 2016, 01:07:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: Boycey on April 26, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
For €60 million? Not a chance, you would have to go close to breaking a world record to get him.
I'm pretty sure anyway him and Alli or anyone that might attract a megabucks offer will stay at least another year and play in the Champions League for Spurs..
Man United are still Man United, biggest club in England, top 4 in the World.
Spurs have a stadium to pay for £100m for Arry and Alli would go a long way towards helping to pay for that.
Man United have a history of buying the best available British talent, it's always being part of their model. Spurs have always being a selling club.
For the player it will always come down to money, 200K a week at Man United or 100K a week at Spurs. What player has ever turned down the money?
Nail on the head Dinny. All comes down to money. Spurs will be lucky if they get another season out of those mentioned!
No one ever Bale's out of Spurs for money!
Quote from: bennydorano on April 26, 2016, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: Boycey on April 26, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
For €60 million? Not a chance, you would have to go close to breaking a world record to get him.
I'm pretty sure anyway him and Alli or anyone that might attract a megabucks offer will stay at least another year and play in the Champions League for Spurs..
Man United are still Man United, biggest club in England, top 4 in the World.
Spurs have a stadium to pay for £100m for Arry and Alli would go a long way towards helping to pay for that.
Man United have a history of buying the best available British talent, it's always being part of their model. Spurs have always being a selling club.
For the player it will always come down to money, 200K a week at Man United or 100K a week at Spurs. What player has ever turned down the money?
Shearer
Did he?
Quote from: bennydorano on April 26, 2016, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: Boycey on April 26, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
For €60 million? Not a chance, you would have to go close to breaking a world record to get him.
I'm pretty sure anyway him and Alli or anyone that might attract a megabucks offer will stay at least another year and play in the Champions League for Spurs..
Man United are still Man United, biggest club in England, top 4 in the World.
Spurs have a stadium to pay for £100m for Arry and Alli would go a long way towards helping to pay for that.
Man United have a history of buying the best available British talent, it's always being part of their model. Spurs have always being a selling club.
For the player it will always come down to money, 200K a week at Man United or 100K a week at Spurs. What player has ever turned down the money?
Shearer
I've read this a few times recently.
Blackburn offered more money than Man United for both Shearer (1992) and Keane (1993). Alan took the money and Roy took United.
Lads catch yourselves on if you think Kane will turn down the money. I do think he'll stay another year, so will Alli but when Spurs aren't challenging they'll be off.
I was referring to when big Al went to Newcastle, not Blackburn.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 26, 2016, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: Boycey on April 26, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
I wonder who will be sold
My name is Arry, Arry Kane. €60m to Man United.
For €60 million? Not a chance, you would have to go close to breaking a world record to get him.
I'm pretty sure anyway him and Alli or anyone that might attract a megabucks offer will stay at least another year and play in the Champions League for Spurs..
Man United are still Man United, biggest club in England, top 4 in the World.
Spurs have a stadium to pay for £100m for Arry and Alli would go a long way towards helping to pay for that.
Man United have a history of buying the best available British talent, it's always being part of their model. Spurs have always being a selling club.
For the player it will always come down to money, 200K a week at Man United or 100K a week at Spurs. What player has ever turned down the money?
Shearer
Shearer earned more money at Blackburn then he would have done at United, it was probably the same at Newcastle. United weren't a huge wage payer back then. Blackburn offered Keane a higher wage then United did in 1993.
As for Kane he's going nowhere this summer and if Spurs continue to do well then then he'll certainly stay for a few more years although their going to have to up his wage especially if he has a good summer in France. I thought I remember reading he was on about 60k a week at Spurs, that is a long way short of what United would offer him.
MM theres no way in hell he'll stay if United were to double/treble his salary. That stadium needs paid for!
Lest be realistic here - despite Uniteds dip I'd put money on them to win more trophies than Spurs over the next 10 years!
Keane also held Man United to ransom over his contract which made him the highest paid player in England. He knew his worth and knew going to Man United ultimately would make him more money. Roy is no mug. Harry Kane the ex-gooner is no mug.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
Keane also held Man United to ransom over his contract which made him the highest paid player in England. He knew his worth and knew going to Man United ultimately would make him more money. Roy is no mug. Harry Kane the ex-gooner is no mug.
Time for Harry to come home! she wore.....
According to Forbes billionaires issue the Joe dude who owns TH is richer than the Glazers
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
Keane also held Man United to ransom over his contract which made him the highest paid player in England. He knew his worth and knew going to Man United ultimately would make him more money. Roy is no mug. Harry Kane the ex-gooner is no mug.
In fairness Keane the best player in the league at the time and one of the best players in the world and his wage didn't reflect that. He could have easily doubled his wage at the time, Bayern & Juve offered him double what United ended up paying him.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 26, 2016, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
Keane also held Man United to ransom over his contract which made him the highest paid player in England. He knew his worth and knew going to Man United ultimately would make him more money. Roy is no mug. Harry Kane the ex-gooner is no mug.
In fairness Keane the best player in the league at the time and one of the best players in the world and his wage didn't reflect that. He could have easily doubled his wage at the time, Bayern & Juve offered him double what United ended up paying him.
Calling what footballers earn "wages" always makes me smile.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 26, 2016, 01:24:59 PM
MM theres no way in hell he'll stay if United were to double/treble his salary. That stadium needs paid for!
Lest be realistic here - despite Uniteds dip I'd put money on them to win more trophies than Spurs over the next 10 years!
Agreed
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 01:36:28 PM
According to Forbes billionaires issue the Joe dude who owns TH is richer than the Glazers
The guy who owns QPR is one of the richest people in the world, doesn't always follow they'll put their money into a club
Quote from: Boycey on April 26, 2016, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2016, 01:36:28 PM
According to Forbes billionaires issue the Joe dude who owns TH is richer than the Glazers
The guy who owns QPR is one of the richest people in the world, doesn't always follow they'll put their money into a club
FFP stops them from doing so although the likes of City's & PSG's owners are creative to get around that.
How would one go about getting spurs tickets for home league games?
Looking to send the aul fella over to a game this season , but havnt a clue how handy the tickets are to come by.
Thanks
Become a club member.£43 a year.With capacity reduced most games are sold out making it practically impossible for non members to get tickets to any games.Cant even buy them off punters outside the ground as you need to show your membership card with your ticket at the turnstiles
Quote from: T Fearon on July 07, 2016, 08:05:41 PM
Become a club member.£43 a year.With capacity reduced most games are sold out making it practically impossible for non members to get tickets to any games.Cant even buy them off punters outside the ground as you need to show your membership card with your ticket at the turnstiles
Does becoming a club member pretty much guarantee you tickets? Also can you buy 2 tickets on the 1 membership card or is it 1 ticket per card?
Good point on the reduced capacity, I had forgot about that.
Thanks
Doesn't guarantee you,you have to be quick on the draw when tickets go on sale for games with big clubs like Man Utd and even smaller clubs like Arsenal.But you can usually get a ticket for average games and as I see it,with the Champions League games at Wembley this season, and the capacity there, it should guarantee tickets for these games
Is it one ticket per membership card or would u be able to buy two tickets?
Guest tickets are available to purchase for certain games,the least attractive fixtures.As I said it is particularly appealing this season as it will practically guarantee the holder a ticket for the Champions League fixtures at Wembley
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/membership/bronze-lilywhite/
Moussa Sissoko opts to shun Everton and join a big club👍
Quote from: T Fearon on August 31, 2016, 10:38:57 PM
Long time Arsenal fan Moussa Sissoko opts to shun Everton and join a big club👍
ftfy
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Will he get his place?
I'd say Spurs were annoyed to have to pay £30M for him, even if it is spread over 5 payments.
A panic buy from Spurs, can't believe he was anywhere near top of Poch's list. I though Mane would been a great signing for Spurs and he cost Liverpool a similar amount.
I thought Spurs could go close on winning the league this season if they bought right, it doesn't look like they've done enough this summer to challenge again.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 01, 2016, 12:55:23 PM
A panic buy from Spurs, can't believe he was anywhere near top of Poch's list. I though Mane would been a great signing for Spurs and he cost Liverpool a similar amount.
I thought Spurs could go close on winning the league this season if they bought right, it doesn't look like they've done enough this summer to challenge again.
How much alcohol was consumed when you had those thoughts?
If Sissoko is worth £30M then the world's gone mad. Anonymous for most of last season.
Quote from: StGallsGAA on September 02, 2016, 08:43:52 PM
If Sissoko is worth £30M then the world's gone mad. Anonymous for most of last season.
Yeah just played for a move during the Euros, teams must be mental
Quote from: StGallsGAA on September 02, 2016, 08:43:52 PM
If Sissoko is worth £30M then the world's gone mad. Anonymous for most of last season.
I completely agree.
But Mane at £30m, Stones at £50m, Sterling at £45m, Luis at £50m, pogba at £90m. Every part of all that is mental. So the market rate for a starting midfielder for a top international side is probably £30m. Then again, Fergie paid nearly that a decade ago for Veron, and it is genuinely debatable if he was actually any good at all. Nice to watch, but not great.
Football is though throwing more money around than ever before but is actually getting worse. Go figure.
Whether Veron was a good footballer isn't debatable in the slightest.
Why was Wembley used this evening?
Because work has started to rebuild the Lane into a 60,000 capacity stadium
Because Spurs thought they'd draw big names in the CL, being in pot 3, but it didn't turn out that way. Hilariously Spurs.
Big names or not, 85,000 odds there last night chump.
Biggest ever home attendance for an English Club.
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 15, 2016, 09:05:13 AM
Big names or not, 85,000 odds there last night chump.
Biggest ever home attendance for an English Club.
That's not home :) 92,500 were at Wembley for Liverpool v Bruges in 1978.
Wembley wasn't Liverpool's home ground though was it?
And it would have been 50/50 split in terms of ticket allocations. Unlike last night.
Jeez lads! Give us a wee bit of credit where it's jew! ;)
I'm only slagging :) But it isn't Spurs home ground either. Apparently, though, they are using it in the premier league next season as the new Lane is being built?
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 15, 2016, 09:05:13 AM
Big names or not, 85,000 odds there last night chump.
Biggest ever home attendance for an English Club.
Ah sure that's great,congrats. It doesn't matter that ye were beaten so.
I never said it didn't matter!
I like to take the positives from it though..... ;)
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 15, 2016, 09:27:12 AM
I'm only slagging :) But it isn't Spurs home ground either. Apparently, though, they are using it in the premier league next season as the new Lane is being built?
That's right, all games next season will be there.
Are Spurs being found out this season.
Decent squad but too many players of a similar level. Cant see them making top 4.
Too many english players. English players continue to fail on an international stage. All of the other top teams have very few.
Found out?? It's the 15th of September man!
Still undefeated in the league lads. Don't be writing us off just yet. ;)
Too many average players bought. Eriksen wants a salary his talent warrants. 5th/6th for the yid army this year.
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 15, 2016, 09:22:13 AM
Jeez lads! Give us a wee bit of credit where it's jew! ;)
Gold Star!!!!
:D
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/oct/02/tottenham-hotspur-manchester-city-premier-league-match-report
Genuine title contenders! :-)
I believed Spurs would beat City yesterday and so it proved. For me Spurs were the best team in the league by a distance last year but for a poor start and blowing up a little at the very end but they have a squad as good or better than anything in the league right now and as things stand I would not be surprised to see them and Liverpool in the mix come the end of the season. It may well be that the other two teams in the mix will be Arsenal and City though Arsenal do tend to choke around early spring while City this past week have shown that they have areas of the team to address - mainly too many of their defenders cannot defend. I had a colleague tell me on my return from being at Celtic Park last wed night that Celtic were lucky because City did not have DeBruyne - well I am sorry but for the money City have spent I refuse to acknowledge that when they are one man down they a ffffed! But back to Spurs, one of the top 2 keepers in the league, best defence in the league, really good blend of top quality midfielders with the only area they seem a bit short in being up front and they will miss Kane at some point during his lay-off but they still have plenty of goals in the team.
Not sure with some of your points there but they do have a superb manager!!
Said it before, he was the manager United should have given a blank cheque to and told him to write his price!
I think he is a manager that is more comfortable in the type of role he is in at Spurs i.e. developing players who will work their socks off for him. Of course if he keeps it up he will be lured to one of the really big boys (no disrespect to Spurs) but the way I see English football right now, with the exception of Spurs and Liverpool the rest of the so called top teams are full of over paid brats who will only try a leg when it suits them or when it is running nicely. Money has ruined the hunger of many.
Things will all change at Spurs and Liverpool (to a lesser degree) when the new stadium arrives. We have already seen it with Erikson earlier this season. Why would they be happy with 80-100k a week at Spurs when City, United and Chelsea can all double or treble their salary. Kane will have his head turned soon enough! Spurs are similar to Arsenal when they first moved into the Emirates in that regard. Top players but earning less than their peers.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 03, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
Things will all change at Spurs and Liverpool (to a lesser degree) when the new stadium arrives. We have already seen it with Erikson earlier this season. Why would they be happy with 80-100k a week at Spurs when City, United and Chelsea can all double or treble their salary. Kane will have his head turned soon enough! Spurs are similar to Arsenal when they first moved into the Emirates in that regard. Top players but earning less than their peers.
A salary cap like the nfl would be a great leveler. It would force teams to invest in youth. I think the Superbowl has only had one multiple winner over the last decade. Obviously the playoff structure and draft helps as well but it means that no one team dominates because of financial clout.
The UEFA financial fair play regulations are a joke. Converting debt to equity and sweet heart deals on stadiums means the likes of city can basically ignore them and hoover up global talent with no comeback.
Agree - you would think 50k a week would be more than enough for any individual to be set up for life let alone moving on from closer to 100k because it is not enough - more money that comes in, more goes out on wages and agents fees - I would have liked the new TV deal to have something written in about using a portion of it to lower ticket prices so that the thousands of supporters attending could benefit rather than a handful of individuals but at the same time I am aware they are throwing more money at it to try and boost their product and unfortunately that does not include supporters.
As for the new stadiums for Spurs and Liverpool - think I read somewhere that they reckon Spurs will not take the same hurt as Arsenal as they have massive finance secured for the project including NFL backing and naming rights - not sure of the entirety of the sums. Was there not also something where Arsenal got slowed down by the turn in the property market as part of their project was to redevelop Highbury into apartments which then took a few years for the return to filter in. Time will tell I suppose though on the face of it Liverpool never seem to have too many problems finding money to spend.
Arsenal got tied into a 10 year deal (I think) with Emirates for both the shirt and stadium rights. Initially it looked good but was dwarfed by subsequent deals that United, Chelsea and City acquired. The Highbury Square project has been good for Arsenal in terms of return but as you say it took years to go through. I think the Arsenal board were a little naive in terms of financial fair play and tried to do things by the books (no shame I suppose) whilst Chelsea and City flaunted it!
Have they decided which NFL sides will play at the new WHL? I thought the Jaguars franchise was a long term shoe in for Wembley? These new stadiums and increased capacities are all well and good but they also give clubs the excuse to stick the arm in and attract wealthier supporters while the average joe gets priced out! An example - in my office the only two regular Arsenal attendees are both company directors!
Arsenal lost their way in parallel with the Cork hurlers. Watching them in the CL is like Groundhog day.
Simon Kuper in the FT divides teams into moneybags owners like Man City, the Barse, Real Voldemort, Chelsea, PSG and miserly owners like Arse, Liverpool , Everton
Tottenham aren't really moneybags but bought very well and have a super manager.
Man Utd would make a great PhD
I always find comments like "Arsenal have lost their way" to be very empty.
They've got two of the absolute superstars of the league in Sanchez and Ozil, and a squad brimming with talented players who play good football, and have an amazing habit of winning games in the last few minutes.
Even with unlimited spending power, Chelsea, City and United can't match their consistency in the EPL.
I know everyone wants their club to win trophies, but there's only two trophies that matter to a club like Arsenal and every year there's 4 live challengers for one of them and half a dozen live challengers for the other. Declaring them as underachievers for not toppling either in a decade is trite.
The thing I most like about Poch is that he's a coach.
He would seem to be adamant that if a player has the right tools in terms of motivation, athleticism and technique, then it's better to spend time on the training field with him, rather than spending that time looking for an expensive improvement.
Most Spurs fans would have happily moved Rose, Dier, Dembele, Lamela, Son and Kane along as quick as they arrived. Most had serious doubts about Walker and more than a few still don't get Eriksen. Basically they want to champman their team every season. They're already on jansenn's case and are horrified at the thought of Omonah and Winks getting a game.
Personally it's so refreshing to see a manager who doesn't think like an impulsive supporter, doesn't watch YouTube highlight reels and wonder why everyone else has better players. Centre halves apart this Spurs team could be together for a decade (in theory). I hope it happens like that.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 03, 2016, 06:10:47 PM
I always find comments like "Arsenal have lost their way" to be very empty.
They've got two of the absolute superstars of the league in Sanchez and Ozil, and a squad brimming with talented players who play good football, and have an amazing habit of winning games in the last few minutes.
Even with unlimited spending power, Chelsea, City and United can't match their consistency in the EPL.
I know everyone wants their club to win trophies, but there's only two trophies that matter to a club like Arsenal and every year there's 4 live challengers for one of them and half a dozen live challengers for the other. Declaring them as underachievers for not toppling either in a decade is trite.
They are the Cork hurlers of English soccer. I think they are disappointing but that is just my view
But Cork hurlers have a decent enough history....
Quote from: thewobbler on October 03, 2016, 06:10:47 PM
I always find comments like "Arsenal have lost their way" to be very empty.
They've got two of the absolute superstars of the league in Sanchez and Ozil, and a squad brimming with talented players who play good football, and have an amazing habit of winning games in the last few minutes.
Even with unlimited spending power, Chelsea, City and United can't match their consistency in the EPL.
I know everyone wants their club to win trophies, but there's only two trophies that matter to a club like Arsenal and every year there's 4 live challengers for one of them and half a dozen live challengers for the other. Declaring them as underachievers for not toppling either in a decade is trite.
I suppose they set their own high standards and despite looking the real deal many seasons have continually come up short and often due to a period of the season where they lose their way. But you are correct, their level of consistency for about 20 years is admirable and why I could never understand supporters wanting Wenger hounded - careful what you wish for and all that though I suppose by the law of averages being a very decent team for that long and not having a major trophy in about 10 yrs (unless you count the modern F.A. Cup) you would have to question is their some sort of mental weakness there.
Wondering what you Spurs fans think of Sissoko so far. Did he get injured on Sunday?
Great win v Man shitty which I didn't see coming in Kane's absence. Looks like Son is stepping up well.
What's the story with hitting the penalties between them two. Was there any official word afterwards?
What a great last few minutes from the lads and Harry in particular to grab victory from the jaws of defeat and preserve the unbeaten record!
Quote from: thewobbler on October 03, 2016, 06:10:47 PM
I always find comments like "Arsenal have lost their way" to be very empty.
They've got two of the absolute superstars of the league in Sanchez and Ozil, and a squad brimming with talented players who play good football, and have an amazing habit of winning games in the last few minutes.
Even with unlimited spending power, Chelsea, City and United can't match their consistency in the EPL.
I know everyone wants their club to win trophies, but there's only two trophies that matter to a club like Arsenal and every year there's 4 live challengers for one of them and half a dozen live challengers for the other. Declaring them as underachievers for not toppling either in a decade is trite.
Wegner has transformed Arsenal and deserves tremendous credit forvtge way they play and especially the financial health of the club and new stadium, that said his brief is to bring the club league and cup wins, he has failed on both fronts, there have been times they were so close a player or two would have made a difference yet he failed to pull the pin and that killed Arsenal.
I think he is a brilliant manager, that said he needs to rediscover his winning touch and he needs to do it this season.
The thing that has to give Spurs supporters encouragement this season is that they have played none and are still in and around the mix - watched the game on Sat night and they were second best for long periods yet managed to come through. Big ask at this stage in Champions League though!
Quote from: Hectic on November 21, 2016, 10:52:52 AM
The thing that has to give Spurs supporters encouragement this season is that they have played none and are still in and around the mix - watched the game on Sat night and they were second best for long periods yet managed to come through. Big ask at this stage in Champions League though!
CL is a long term project. Look at Man City
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 21, 2016, 10:52:52 AM
The thing that has to give Spurs supporters encouragement this season is that they have played none and are still in and around the mix - watched the game on Sat night and they were second best for long periods yet managed to come through. Big ask at this stage in Champions League though!
CL is a long term project. Look at Man City
Yeah I suppose after their previous run under Arry I was maybe expecting a bit more given they are a more complete team now though Wembley def a contributing factor IMO. Will do very well to take anything from Monaco - I see the other game in the group is being played early so at least they will know what they have to do though regardless that is probably win both games.
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 21, 2016, 10:52:52 AM
The thing that has to give Spurs supporters encouragement this season is that they have played none and are still in and around the mix - watched the game on Sat night and they were second best for long periods yet managed to come through. Big ask at this stage in Champions League though!
CL is a long term project. Look at Man City
No such thing as a long term project for CL. When the Premier League was strong the best teams in England would be there or thereabouts to winning Europes premier prize.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 21, 2016, 06:40:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 21, 2016, 10:52:52 AM
The thing that has to give Spurs supporters encouragement this season is that they have played none and are still in and around the mix - watched the game on Sat night and they were second best for long periods yet managed to come through. Big ask at this stage in Champions League though!
CL is a long term project. Look at Man City
No such thing as a long term project for CL. When the Premier League was strong the best teams in England would be there or thereabouts to winning Europes premier prize.
It is iterative . Chelsea needed a few goes
Man City failed to get out of the group how many times?
PSG similar
What is interesting about the competition is how few teams win out of nowhere. Red Star Belgrade did it before the League format. Porto 04. Maybe Liverpool 05
Otherwise it is a stitch up between the big teams.
Very few clubs have won compared to the numbers that have lost finals .
GF is more open.
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 06:47:57 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 21, 2016, 06:40:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 21, 2016, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 21, 2016, 10:52:52 AM
The thing that has to give Spurs supporters encouragement this season is that they have played none and are still in and around the mix - watched the game on Sat night and they were second best for long periods yet managed to come through. Big ask at this stage in Champions League though!
CL is a long term project. Look at Man City
No such thing as a long term project for CL. When the Premier League was strong the best teams in England would be there or thereabouts to winning Europes premier prize.
It is iterative . Chelsea needed a few goes
Man City failed to get out of the group how many times?
PSG similar
What is interesting about the competition is how few teams win out of nowhere. Red Star Belgrade did it before the League format. Porto 04. Maybe Liverpool 05
Otherwise it is a stitch up between the big teams.
Very few clubs have won compared to the numbers that have lost finals .
GF is more open.
Red star Belgarde were an outstanding team if it wasn't for war they would have won more and Yugoslavia would have won the Euros in 92.
Chelsea won their first premier league title in 05 they reached the CL semi final that year losing in controversial fashion however Liverpool going on to win that CL proved how strong the English league was then compared to now where Manchester City need many tries to get out of their group while Tottenham currently struggle to get out of a group that is weaker than a previous one they qualified from.
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The thing that has to give Spurs supporters encouragement this season is that they have played none and are still in and around the mix - watched the game on Sat night and they were second best for long periods yet managed to come through. Big ask at this stage in Champions League though!
CL is a long term project. Look at Man City
No such thing as a long term project for CL. When the Premier League was strong the best teams in England would be there or thereabouts to winning Europes premier prize.
It is iterative . Chelsea needed a few goes
Man City failed to get out of the group how many times?
PSG similar
What is interesting about the competition is how few teams win out of nowhere. Red Star Belgrade did it before the League format. Porto 04. Maybe Liverpool 05
Otherwise it is a stitch up between the big teams.
Very few clubs have won compared to the numbers that have lost finals .
GF is more open.
Yea, we need a back door.
The champions league began in 1993 it has produced fourteen different winners. The wins per country has been France 1,Italy 5,Netherlands 1,Germany 3,Spain 9,England 4 and Portugal 1.
In comparison with our own elite or be amateur competitions since 1993 eleven different teams has won the senior football All Ireland and only six Kilkenny,Cork,Offaly,Wexford,Clare,Tipperary has won the small ball hurling.
And what would the stats be for the last 5 to 10 yrs when money has become more and more influential in both soccer and Gaelic games?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 21, 2016, 08:24:58 PM
The champions league began in 1993 it has produced fourteen different winners. The wins per country has been France 1,Italy 5,Netherlands 1,Germany 3,Spain 9,England 4 and Portugal 1.
In comparison with our own elite or be amateur competitions since 1993 eleven different teams has won the senior football All Ireland and only six Kilkenny,Cork,Offaly,Wexford,Clare,Tipperary has won the small ball hurling.
How many teams started?
You can't compare the bare stats. Soccer has a few Kerrys eg Bayern Milan Inter Real Barca Man U
Take out their wins and see what is left.
Who would be the saccar equivalent of Tyrone? Red Star Belgrade maybe. They only won once
Down would be Ajax
Only for Hugo Lloris Tottenham would have got hammered tonight. Hard to believe that average Tottenham side has gone 12 games unbeaten in the premier league.
Hugely disappointing campaign.Lessons to be learn't.Far too loose
Spurs have been poor enough all season and have managed to get away with it in the league where they are not playing teams that know how to work the ball as well as European teams. From what I have saw they have not got the fluidity of last season either in their play or in their line ups and by all accounts Eriksen, the player they would be looking to to make the difference, has been poor all season. I watched them last night for an hour then switched over as it was drab and nothing like what we saw last season. The positive for you guys though is that if you pull a result at Chelsea you will be sitting pretty with gears still to find and no European football to distract (assuming that even if they parachute into the Europa they will be playing reserves and kids given they were half doing that last night) - however I would be very surprised if you got anything at Chelsea with the defence you look to be going in with but I sincerely hope you chin them.
Spurs fell into the old Liverpool trap of sacrificing the champions league in the hope of qualifying for the champions league.
Quote from: lurganblue on November 23, 2016, 01:21:16 PM
Spurs fell into the old Liverpool trap of sacrificing the champions league in the hope of qualifying for the champions league.
Very good :)
Moving away from WHL has cost Spurs, they've taken 4 points away from home which is normally enough for a club to qualify as long as their home form is ok.
Jansen & Sissoko are 2 poor buys, if they'd bought well they'd be serious title challengers.
Great win tonight,and a clean sheet to boot as well.Had we lost that against the Chavs our title chances were gone.As exciting a Spurs team as the one in the early 80s with Hoddle,Ardiles and Co.
Never thought I'd see the day when I'd b cheering a Mourinho and a Man Utd win,but the result today coupled with or current form means there is a realistic chance of ending 56 years of hurt by reclaiming the league title.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 16, 2017, 09:40:37 PM
Never thought I'd see the day when I'd b cheering a Mourinho and a Man Utd win,but the result today coupled with or current form means there is a realistic chance of ending 56 years of hurt by reclaiming the league title.
At least you stopped calling them 'manure'. Which is a start.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 16, 2017, 09:40:37 PM
Never thought I'd see the day when I'd b cheering a Mourinho and a Man Utd win,but the result today coupled with or current form means there is a realistic chance of ending 56 years of hurt by reclaiming the league title.
I'd like to think so but not until the last seconds of injury time on the final day would I believe it were possible, we started to believe that this time last year and the form was excellent then too. Still the team has been playing superb of late, but any potential title chance is still reliant on at least two Chelsea slip-ups, and they have the easier run-in too:
Chelsea - Southampton (H), Everton (A), Middlesboro (H), WBA (A), Watford (H), Sunderland (H).
Tottenham - Palace (A), Arsenal (H), West Ham (A), Man Utd (H), Leicester (A), Hull (A).
I'd obviously like to be wrong but I can't see it happening.
In 2012 with 6 matches left Man Utd were 8 points ahead of Man City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoEWtB3fA0
It's all about the squads at this stage
I think Spurs are in with a great shout. I think they're in better form that this time last year and last years challenge will stand to them. I'm suspicious that Chelsea are tying up a little so while the 4 point gap and easier fixtures (on paper) look to have things loaded in Chelsea's favour I'm thinking Spurs are far from out of it.
Come on Spurs! You can do it!
Unfortunately the Yids will fall short again.
Chelseas run in is relatively simple with only Everton game any chance of them dropping points - even if they are beaten there a W in the rest means it is sewn up.
Yids = perennial bridesmaids
Tottenham more or less handed the Premier League title to Chelsea tonight.
Shit their togs for a second year in a row.
Spurs would never have caught Chelsea anyways.. Chelsea run in so much easier
Quote from: laoislad on May 05, 2017, 10:00:15 PM
Shit their togs for a second year in a row.
hard to argue with this.... team of nearly men that will win nothing judged on everything seen to date
Little you can do when West Spam.park the bus.A great season with a young side
Quote from: T Fearon on May 05, 2017, 10:27:04 PM
Little you can do when West Spam.park the bus.A great season with a young side
Ah now Tony those words wouldn't be so soft and sweet if Brendan Rodgers was Tottenham manager.
Pochettino is under some pressure...how hes not won anything with that team is totally insane i swear i could get a trophy with the talent in that squad...spurs have no ambition if they keep him
I am not being critical.I acknowledge the job Mauricio Pochettino has done,but he has met minimum expectations domestically,for which lavish praise is not due in my opnion. This has unbelievably exceeded the praise lavished on Ranieri, who exceeded all expectations with Leicester last year.
I suspect Mauricio Pochettino himself knows he will be judged ultimately on how he performs in Europe, not beating feeble domestic opposition all of whom are roughly the same League standard
Quote from: T Fearon on May 05, 2017, 10:27:04 PM
Little you can do when West Spam.park the bus.A great season with a young side
Did you cut and paste that from 12 months ago.😂😂😂
A super season,and a great 9 wins in a row ended only by West Ham's anti football tonight.Along with Chelsea who had the advantage of not being in Europe,Spurs were the only contenders for the title early into the season. A great performance from a young side.
Aye not unbeaten all season and a manager who's too well paid! Are his teeth shiny
Quote from: T Fearon on May 05, 2017, 11:35:56 PM
A super season,and a great 9 wins in a row ended only by West Ham's anti football tonight.Along with Chelsea who had the advantage of not being in Europe,Spurs were the only contenders for the title early into the season. A great performance from a young side.
A great season for spurs equals no trophies????
This is what they have to work on
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/may/01/mauricio-pochettino-tipsy-tottenham-hangover
Between 15 October and 11 December last year Spurs won three of 13 matches, went out of the Champions League and the League Cup and dropped 11 points.
Much easier than what Arsenal have to do, innit.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/30/alli-kane-dynamism-tottenham-decay-arsenal-arsene-wenger
While Poch has an infinitely harder job than Rodgers I think there are indeed some questions to be answered.
1.European form was atrocious
2.Why can we not perform at Wembley
3.Why can we not win really big games,like the cup semi final.
However I do acknowledge it is a young side.Nevertheless silverware must be delivered sooner rather than later,and I would worry about the finances being diverted into the new stadium as opposed to team building.
As we bid a tearful farewell to the Lane today,what are your standout memories.Amid winning the UEFA Cup twice there, and nine goal wins against Bristol and Wigan,my fondest memory is beating Leeds (European Cup Finalists that same season) 4-2 in the very last game of the 74-75 season to avoid relegation.
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As we bid a tearful farewell to the Lane today,what are your standout memories.Amid winning the UEFA Cup twice there, and nine goal wins against Bristol and Wigan,my fondest memory is beating Leeds (European Cup Finalists that same season) 4-2 in the very last game of the 74-75 season to avoid relegation.
Arsenal winning the league twice there.
Quote from: T Fearon on May 14, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
As we bid a tearful farewell to the Lane today,what are your standout memories.Amid winning the UEFA Cup twice there, and nine goal wins against Bristol and Wigan,my fondest memory is beating Leeds (European Cup Finalists that same season) 4-2 in the very last game of the 74-75 season to avoid relegation.
I'll remember Brendan Rodgers taking his Liverpool team there and winning 5-0
Quote from: T Fearon on May 14, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
As we bid a tearful farewell to the Lane today,what are your standout memories.Amid winning the UEFA Cup twice there, and nine goal wins against Bristol and Wigan,my fondest memory is beating Leeds (European Cup Finalists that same season) 4-2 in the very last game of the 74-75 season to avoid relegation.
Utd coming back from 3 down at ht to win 5-3. Forget the year.
Quote from: T Fearon on May 14, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
As we bid a tearful farewell to the Lane today,what are your standout memories.Amid winning the UEFA Cup twice there, and nine goal wins against Bristol and Wigan,my fondest memory is beating Leeds (European Cup Finalists that same season) 4-2 in the very last game of the 74-75 season to avoid relegation.
The only tear I'll be shedding is for the fact that you won't be in the ground when it's being knocked down
I frequented WHL quite a lot in late 80s early 90s and have a soft spot for it. It's a proper old fashioned football ground the type of which are sadly now almost extinct (Goodison is another that's about to disappear)..
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Quote from: T Fearon on May 14, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
As we bid a tearful farewell to the Lane today,what are your standout memories.Amid winning the UEFA Cup twice there, and nine goal wins against Bristol and Wigan,my fondest memory is beating Leeds (European Cup Finalists that same season) 4-2 in the very last game of the 74-75 season to avoid relegation.
I'll remember Brendan Rodgers taking his Liverpool team there and winning 5-0
Without doubt my happiest memory of WHL.
Routine win against Salford's American franchise today and a very moving closing ceremony.Lets hope the rainbow at the end is a portent of a golden future.
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Routine win against Salford's American franchise today and a very moving closing ceremony.Lets hope the rainbow at the end is a portent of a golden future.
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Routine . It was a nothing game for both clubs. Spurs farewell to whl was funny considering stadium will still be whl. Another trophyless successful season for spurs. Lol. Grasping at rainbows.
It was important to Spurs to seal second place and to preserve the unbeaten home league record this season at the Lane.
Gonna be a quare job dismantling the trophy cabinet.
new White Hart Lane stadium, capacity 61,559
Emirates stadium capacity 60,4032
Spurs are now cementing their already confirmed decade long North London superiority, in the domain of bums on seats.
I read that players from Spurs past took home treasured mementos from the stadium before it will be demolished in a few days time.
That would account for the sight of Darren Anderton, seen carrying the physio bench out towards the car park.
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I read that players from Spurs past took home treasured mementos from the stadium before it will be demolished in a few days time.
That would account for the sight of Darren Ferguson, seen carrying the physio bench out towards the car park.
So close to be being a good joke!
Arsenal won as many titles at the lane as the Spuds. This time next year the Spuds will have finished 7th or 8th and will be looking for a new manager. Kane and Alli will be moving to Man United for stupid money as Pochettino who has never won a trophy tries to bring back the EPL to Man U.
Ink a bink
a bottle of ink
the cork fell out
and you stink.
Awsenal is a cwap club.
Magnificent performance away to last season's champions tonight,after an emotional day at the Lane on Sunday.Harry well placed to take Golden Boot with a Fab Four goal salvo as well
another season with no trophies ... what a team! ;)
A nothing game. They couldn't do it when it mattered against West Ham.
Would not have mattered had they beat West Ham thirty nil! ::)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2017, 10:54:34 PM
Would not have mattered had they beat West Ham thirty nil! ::)
Exactly this.
Spurs "lost" the league in August, not in May. Winning 12 out of 13 games isn't bottling.
Quote from: T Fearon on May 18, 2017, 10:39:05 PM
Magnificent performance away to last season's champions tonight,after an emotional day at the Lane on Sunday.Harry well placed to take Golden Boot with a Fab Four goal salvo as well
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2017, 10:54:34 PM
Would not have mattered had they beat West Ham thirty nil! ::)
Exactly this.
Spurs "lost" the league in August, not in May. Winning 12 out of 13 games isn't bottling.
Nah the team actually started quite well, think they were 5-2-0 after beating City at the start of October, it was the October to December period, injuries to Kane and others, some poor/iffy draws against the likes of Leicester, WBA, Bournemouth and Arsenal and losses to Chelsea and United away where the damage was done. Chelsea were ten points ahead after the United defeat in mid December and both teams had pretty similar runs since, think it's 18-2-2 for Spurs since the United loss. As with last season they were trying to make up the ground lost on the eventual champions after December and ultimately had too much to do and were reliant on the leaders dropping points which didn't happen enough to make it possible, no bottling involved.
Harry Kane actually does score when he wants! ;D
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Quote from: T Fearon on May 18, 2017, 10:39:05 PM
Magnificent performance away to last season's champions tonight,after an emotional day at the Lane on Sunday.Harry well placed to take Golden Boot with a Fab Four goal salvo as well
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thats not even a joke! lol
Routine win to start the season! Great performance from young Kyle Walker Peters (sounds like three Spurs players rolled into one!).
What is it about Harry Kane though? Is he jinxed not to score in August ever,after he had a screaming effort come off the inside of the post?
Anyway roll on demoralised Chelsea at Wembley next weekend!
Kane now the greatest current English player.Must be worth £100m
Big win last night and hopefully that will put an end to the whole can't win at Wembley business. Should be able to take maximum points from the Nicosia games, progress then hinges on getting something out of the Dortmund return game and Real at home Wembley. Kane can't seem to buy a goal in August but good that he's now back in the groove. New boys seem to be settling in well, Vertonghen's red card was harsh enough I thought.
Three away games out of three won! Once again Kane irresistible,how much would he be worth if he could score in August
Tony he is worth 150 million to me right now given the prices of footballers these days, he is transformational.
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Three away games out of six won! Once again Kane irresistible,how much would he be worth if he could score in August
Fixed that for you ;)
Always nice to beat West Ham in their annual cup final but were left hanging on towards the end. Still it keeps the team in touch with the top, just need to get that Wembley form sorted out.
Kane on fire tonight again.He is almost guaranteed to score in every game...after August is finished
Took William Hill's 4/1 (enhanced!) odds against Harry to score two or more today! Money in bank after 23 minutes.Seriously running out of superlatives for this lad.To think he was never asked to play for Ireland
Quote from: T Fearon on September 30, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
Took William Hill's 4/1 (enhanced!) odds against Harry to score two or more today! Money in bank after 23 minutes.Seriously running out of superlatives for this lad.To think he was never asked to play for Ireland
He is in serious form. I would guess this is his last season at Spurs. Needs to move on to a bigger club to realise his full potential and win some medals.
No reason why he can't do that at Spurs.Soon be moving into a 60,000 stadium,and establish ourselves as a Champions League Club.I reckon he is worth at least £150m,well beyond any other English club,and affordable only by Real Madrid or PSG.
Quote from: T Fearon on September 30, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
Took William Hill's 4/1 (enhanced!) odds against Harry to score two or more today! Money in bank after 23 minutes.Seriously running out of superlatives for this lad.To think he was never asked to play for Ireland
ID HE REPRESENT ENGLAND AT UNDERAGE LEVEL?
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Quote from: T Fearon on September 30, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
Took William Hill's 4/1 (enhanced!) odds against Harry to score two or more today! Money in bank after 23 minutes.Seriously running out of superlatives for this lad.To think he was never asked to play for Ireland
ID HE REPRESENT ENGLAND AT UNDERAGE LEVEL?
He was. Said he had no interest.
His father said the FAI never approached him
Quote from: T Fearon on September 30, 2017, 05:19:59 PM
No reason why he can't do that at Spurs.Soon be moving into a 60,000 stadium,and establish ourselves as a Champions League Club.I reckon he is worth at least £150m,well beyond any other English club,and affordable only by Real Madrid or PSG.
Now £150M. 7 posts back you said he was worth £100M FFS! Mods! Can we please bank these Armagh buckfast-swilling, brain-dead faux-gaa, cider monkeys!
What is the best route to go to and from Wembley to Gatwick airport?
Quote from: stiffler on October 07, 2017, 08:35:22 AM
What is the best route to go to and from Wembley to Gatwick airport?
Overground train to London Bridge then its a straight run on underground to Wembley Park (Jubilee Line). You could also get Gatwick Express into Victoria and tube it from there but they'll charge you over twice the price for that pleasure...
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Quote from: stiffler on October 07, 2017, 08:35:22 AM
What is the best route to go to and from Wembley to Gatwick airport?
Overground train to London Bridge then its a straight run on underground to Wembley Park (Jubilee Line). You could also get Gatwick Express into Victoria and tube it from there but they'll charge you over twice the price for that pleasure...
There's another south west train that runs to Victoria with just a couple of stops and it's half the price.
Big shock at Bernabeu.Harry goes 45 minutes without scoring😣
Brilliant performance and result.The best away performance from a Spurs side in Europe since the UEFA Cup semi final in 1972 in the San Siro against AC Milan
Have now run out of superlatives for Harry.Could be on the way to being the best player in the World,seriously.
Quote from: T Fearon on October 17, 2017, 09:38:54 PM
Brilliant performance and result.The best away performance from a Spurs side in Europe since the UEFA Cup semi final in 1972 in the San Siro against AC Milan
They drew is the best performance?
Quote from: T Fearon on October 22, 2017, 11:12:47 PM
Have now run out of superlatives for Harry.Could be on the way to being the best player in the World,seriously.
Not even close but a great player nonetheless.
All those years of hurt were worth it for a night like this
Quote from: T Fearon on November 01, 2017, 09:15:16 PM
All those years of hurt were worth it for a night like this
Great to have a trophy.
Great result so far! But in the scheme of things means little or no difference in relation to Reals continued participation in the Competition!
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 01, 2017, 09:19:35 PM
Great result so far! But in the scheme of things means little or no difference in relation to Reals continued participation in the Competition!
Could mean something to the future of Zidane as manager. Real Madrid have sacked managers for less..
Quote from: T Fearon on October 22, 2017, 11:12:47 PM
Have now run out of superlatives for Harry.Could be on the way to being the best player in the World,seriously.
He is getting there alright, great commitment off te ball and on, he is absolutely flying and seems a likeable sort.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on November 01, 2017, 09:19:35 PM
Great result so far! But in the scheme of things means little or no difference in relation to Reals continued participation in the Competition!
Could mean something to the future of Zidane as manager. Real Madrid have sacked managers for less..
Aye there have been rumblings before tonight so I'd say they'll only intensify..
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Quote from: T Fearon on October 22, 2017, 11:12:47 PM
Have now run out of superlatives for Harry.Could be on the way to being the best player in the World,seriously.
He is getting there alright, great commitment off te ball and on, he is absolutely flying and seems a likeable sort.
I think TF is using a touch of hyperbole. However, he is a brilliant player. The way he seems to create space, shield the ball and beat an opponent to the ball is almost magical. His greatest asset is his accuracy. Rarely misses the target. Alli got all the plaudits but Kane is another level above.
Believe me.I remember when a young Glenn Hoddle burst onto the scene in February 1976 with a cracking long range shot that flew past Peter Shilton in the Stoke goal.Kane's impact has been every bit as good,a matchwinner,like Glenn was.If anything Kane is shaping up to be better,he doesn't seem to go missing in games like Glenn did,and has certainly made a greater impact at international level.
You'd have got long odds last night on Spurs scoring three,and Harry Kane not being on the scoresheet.
Madrid will be coming for some of these players very soon
Quote from: lurganblue on November 02, 2017, 04:20:04 PM
Madrid will be coming for some of these players very soon
Yeah....Kane will be there next summer....
Quote from: lurganblue on November 02, 2017, 04:20:04 PM
Madrid will be coming for some of these players very soon
Monaco got to the semis or quarters last season. The top players were sold . Now they are bottom of their CL group
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
Fcuk all hopefully.
Quote from: GJL on November 02, 2017, 07:13:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
Fcuk all hopefully.
Ah not at All, I always hope for progression to a semi final with a controversial defeat
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
For some one who isn't mobile he appears to have a great knack of getting to the ball before the defender or creating space when you dont think he should.
If I were a Spurs supporter I'd be more worried about Real swooping for Pochetino!!
Quote from: HiMucker on November 02, 2017, 07:28:20 PM
Quote from: GJL on November 02, 2017, 07:13:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
Fcuk all hopefully.
Ah not at All, I always hope for progression to a semi final with a controversial defeat
;D ;D
Quote from: ned on November 02, 2017, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
For some one who isn't mobile he appears to have a great knack of getting to the ball before the defender or creating space when you dont think he should.
Like Robbie Fowler. Dont know whether it was just his running style but at times it looked like he was running in quicksand but always seemed to get to a toe to the ball just before the keeper/defender and it would trickle in off the post!
Sign of a great striker.
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
He makes up for it in other ways, turned into a brilliant all round footballer. There's not many better centre forwards the last 12 months if any.
Quote from: screenexile on November 02, 2017, 10:54:32 PM
If I were a Spurs supporter I'd be more worried about Real swooping for Pochetino!!
I don't think managing Barca & Real is as important to managers as it is too players. There is no chance of building a legacy at Real, Zidane could get the chop after winning back to back CL.; Its madness.
He's an ex PSG man so there's always the chance he might want to there one day although if I had to put money on it I could his next job at City or United. Both clubs would give him the time and money to get it right.
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Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
He makes up for it in other ways, turned into a brilliant all round footballer. There's not many better centre forwards the last 12 months if any.
Yeh like many I thought he was a one season wonder. There isn't a team that wouldn't have him now.
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Quote from: GJL on November 02, 2017, 07:13:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Kane is very good no doubt but i don't think he is mobile enough to be among the real top guys at clubs of that stature.
Be interesting to see what he does at world cup.
Fcuk all hopefully.
Ah not at All, I always hope for progression to a semi final with a controversial defeat
Although getting dumped out of a major tournament by Iceland is particular recent favourite
He didn't look at sea against Real.
I think that england will find it hard after their easy progresssion to the finals and their conservatism by not playing players that in Form or are not the paper's darlings.
Quote from: screenexile on November 02, 2017, 10:54:32 PM
If I were a Spurs supporter I'd be more worried about Real swooping for Pochetino!!
Poch has been good, but far more replaceable than a player like Kane. Just imagine what he'd cost if you had to buy him.
I thought he might turn out to be a one season wonder like so many other English strikers but he's definitely set himself apart from all his compatriots since peak Rooney.
Alright lads, just looking a bit of logistics advice. What's the handiest and cheapest way of getting to Wembley from Luton airport on St Stephens day? Heading over for the Southampton game and a bit clueless round london. Cheers.
Get the Easybus to Baker St and you'll only be 3 tube stops away.
Cawnt believe Tony hasn't been on about this game today.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 18, 2017, 12:56:10 PM
Cawnt believe Tony hasn't been on about this game today.
People like Tony and a few others like StGalls etc only come on if their team win. If Spurs lose he won't be posting anything on here.
All guns blazing today!!
Quote from: laoislad on November 18, 2017, 01:16:22 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 18, 2017, 12:56:10 PM
Cawnt believe Tony hasn't been on about this game today.
People like Tony and a few others like StGalls etc only come on if their team win. If Spurs lose he won't be posting anything on here.
Oh dear. Looks like we have a stalker Tony.
Quote from: johnnydrama on November 16, 2017, 07:58:37 PM
Alright lads, just looking a bit of logistics advice. What's the handiest and cheapest way of getting to Wembley from Luton airport on St Stephens day? Heading over for the Southampton game and a bit clueless round london. Cheers.
Not sure of the train schedule that day but you could get the train from Luton Parkway and get of at West Hampstead , , exit train station then 2 minute walk to West Hampstead train station , 5stops to Wembley park on Jubilee line (Have to do Wembley to Luton commute through work regularly enough and this way would be quickest, )
I wouldn't put 10p on Spurs or any other Champions League contestant in a domestic league fixture preceding a Champions League tie.
Or when they play away from home against the top teams
Excellent recovery from the horror show on Saturday with a great win in Dortmund last night which practically sees up the Group Winners slot.👍
Desperately disappointing to take one point from games against WBA and Leicester.Ends any League challenge,we'll not win Champions League,so barring an FA Cup win,looks like another trophyless season in spite of some long spells of scintillating football and the genius of Kane
Wembley curse !
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2017, 09:57:47 PM
Wembley curse !
Does the curse work away from home too then?
I'm talking Home form, they've been poor enough at home, think they have dropped more points at Home than away..
Smart arse ;)
I prefer to call it pedantic..
Only week 14 of 38, there is time. Tottenham also have the best tactical manager on paper.
Big test for the best tactical manager at the moment. They've had no back up for Kane, Dele and Erikson when they've been quiet or ineffective. Biggest plus for spurs are the minute is the return of Lamela.
Quote from: Puckoon on November 29, 2017, 12:26:28 AM
Big test for the best tactical manager at the moment. They've had no back up for Kane, Dele and Erikson when they've been quiet or ineffective. Biggest plus for spurs are the minute is the return of Lamela.
Lévy is a tight arse. That is the biggest issue
Desperate result and performance tonight.How come we are so good in Europe but very erratic domestically? I don't know what to make of Poch now.FA Cup is our only chance of a trophy,but he doesn't seem to take it seriously,and a top four place is in serious doubt,which will make the likes of Kane and Eriksen question their Spurs futures
Poch getting off lightly in the media, he's done a brilliant job at Spurs but this seasons league performances aren't good enough. You could make a case for their best 1-11 been the best in the league. I haven't seen a great deal of them this season but thought Trippier was very poor against City, don't know whether that was a one off but he didn't look in Walker's class.
Spurs heading for trouble judging by the size of their increased debt.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/oct/30/mauricio-pochettino-tottenham-stadium-white-hart-lane
Quote from: Maroon Manc on October 31, 2018, 01:26:14 PM
Spurs heading for trouble judging by the size of their increased debt.
Surely have factored in the potential of not quantifying for the UCL for say, 2 or 3 years in this all.
If not, and they don't....there could be an impending disaster.
That said, a club in London is worth more than enough I suppose to avoid a Leeds-like meltdown.
What do you think of shit? Tottenham.
What do you think of Tottenham? Shit.
Well well well, knocking city outta Europe.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 17, 2019, 10:08:20 PM
Well well well, knocking city outta Europe.
Fearon would be some craic if he was still about....
A blind man could see Jose was never the man for Spurs.
I don't expect him to last much longer.
Spurs are like Arsenal, going nowhere fast.
I found the appointment mystifying too. In fairness, he had Kane and Son working together very well on the break, but to play his game, you need a better defence than Spurs have.
I'd say he needs to win a cup to keep his job, but even if he doesn't, maybe they'll give him enough time to ruin next season too.
Google Stadium?
Jeebus this threads been quiet. We need to make more of an effort lads in honour of big Tone
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