China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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Louther

Realised that last few days been particularly tough.

I actually find it better (in the loosest possible terms in this shit storm) when there is some certainty I.e. we know the rules and the levels up to a certain point.

Then once the end of that gets closer and the speculation/demands/hope/fear etc from various parties gets louder, it gets harder to bare. You want things lifted, you want normality and then in other hand you want it safer and certainty that it's the end soon. Lot of conflict. We all want out.

Hard to know what to call it but it's perhaps the anxiety of not knowing what's next and conflict arising that never sits easy with me.

Angelo

Quote from: dublin7 on February 11, 2021, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2021, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2021, 03:31:33 PM
3 excellent pertinent questions.

You think so? So I will ask you 3 excellent pertinent questions so

How will more Covid make roscommon win same
How will more Covid make solve climate change
How will more Covid make Ireland win the 6 nations.

Now I know you never said any of those things Rossfan, but they are really pertinent questions and I demand you answer them.

"Lets hear the data on the people who are getting serious cancer diagnoses as a result of cancelled cancelled tests, lets hear about the suicide number increases, lets hear the stats on childhood depression and anxiety."

How do you think we improve cancer diagnosis during covid? The tests are being cancelled as the medical staff struggle to deal with overcrowding due to covid patients. For these tests to go ahead you would have to tell some people there isn't a hospital bed available for them. That couls be a death sentence for some people so do you think that is an acceptable price to pay?

By keeping cancer screening services open and not reducing cancer screening services, there is no justifiable reason to shut down cancer screening.
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Angelo

None of the lockdown experts care to explain exactly what is happening in India?
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PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: clarshack on February 11, 2021, 04:41:44 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2021/02/11/news/-kids-are-crumbling-and-nobody-seems-to-care---benny-coulter-2217261/

i dont know anyone enjoying lockdown... more so this one then others... what is your solution? given we have seen what happens everytime we try and live with covid, we end up with hospitals overrun which in turn leads to another lockdown... we all hope vaccine is the game changer..

Angelo

About 20% of the O6 population now have the 1st dose of the vaccine.

Should surely cover the vast bulk of the at risk category, should be no reason why things should not be well opened up by mid April.

Unless of course the vaccine is a complete dud which is entirely possible.
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GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 05:06:10 PM
About 20% of the O6 population now have the 1st dose of the vaccine.

Should surely cover the vast bulk of the at risk category, should be no reason why things should not be well opened up by mid April.

Unless of course the vaccine is a complete dud which is entirely possible.

I think they are afraid to say this Angelo, incase it doesn't happen....in which case, political suicide.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
None of the lockdown experts care to explain exactly what is happening in India?

England are playing in Cricket there
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

dublin7

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2021, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
None of the lockdown experts care to explain exactly what is happening in India?

England are playing in Cricket there
India has vaccinated over 7m people and they are looking to speed up the process. It can't be a coincidence that Covid cases are falling as the number of people vaccinated increases

Milltown Row2

Quote from: dublin7 on February 11, 2021, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2021, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
None of the lockdown experts care to explain exactly what is happening in India?

England are playing in Cricket there
India has vaccinated over 7m people and they are looking to speed up the process. It can't be a coincidence that Covid cases are falling as the number of people vaccinated increases

With a population of 1.4 billion, they've a bit to go
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

dublin7

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2021, 06:21:20 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 11, 2021, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2021, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
None of the lockdown experts care to explain exactly what is happening in India?

England are playing in Cricket there
India has vaccinated over 7m people and they are looking to speed up the process. It can't be a coincidence that Covid cases are falling as the number of people vaccinated increases

With a population of 1.4 billion, they've a bit to go

That's true, but they've implemented campaign to encourage as many people in the country as possible to get vaccinated and the government is putting pressure on the individual states to speed up vaccinations.

I bet the big pharma companies love India for all the vaccines they're buying.

BennyCake

A big percentage in India are refusing to get the vaccine.

dublin7

Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2021, 06:34:20 PM
A big percentage in India are refusing to get the vaccine.

The whole point of the information campaign is to encourage people to get the vaccine. You'll have a certain percentage in every country who will refuse to get the vaccine. Some for valid reasons (allergies for example) others for the most idiotic reasons

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-55179300

RedHand88

Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 05:06:10 PM
About 20% of the O6 population now have the 1st dose of the vaccine.

Should surely cover the vast bulk of the at risk category, should be no reason why things should not be well opened up by mid April.

Unless of course the vaccine is a complete dud which is entirely possible.

What exactly are you basing this on?

Angelo

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 11, 2021, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 05:06:10 PM
About 20% of the O6 population now have the 1st dose of the vaccine.

Should surely cover the vast bulk of the at risk category, should be no reason why things should not be well opened up by mid April.

Unless of course the vaccine is a complete dud which is entirely possible.

What exactly are you basing this on?

Over 60% of deaths are over 80, think it's around 90% of deaths are over 60. So once the at risk groupings are vaccinated what are we waiting for?

That's of course depends on whether the vaccine is a dud or not.
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Angelo

Quote from: dublin7 on February 11, 2021, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2021, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
None of the lockdown experts care to explain exactly what is happening in India?

England are playing in Cricket there
India has vaccinated over 7m people and they are looking to speed up the process. It can't be a coincidence that Covid cases are falling as the number of people vaccinated increases

In fact it is. Proportionately hardly anyone has been vaccinated in India and cases are falling off a cliff.

It's amazing the twisted logic of the pro lockdowners.
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